Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

There was no "cult of ugly" before now? What with Basil Wolverton and Klasky-Csupo and all the detailed gross closeups in cartoons?
That’s pretty different from what I’m talking about. Yes, ugly caricatures existed but it was played for comedy and the artist didn’t make it a grand parable on how art was supposed to be, just people having fun. Compare this to people who are literally getting triggered over someone having a more attractive icon and “fixing” fairly attractive character designs by making them unrecognizable grotesque.
 
That’s pretty different from what I’m talking about. Yes, ugly caricatures existed but it was played for comedy and the artist didn’t make it a grand parable on how art was supposed to be, just people having fun. Compare this to people who are literally getting triggered over someone having a more attractive icon and “fixing” fairly attractive character designs by making them unrecognizable grotesque.

I get what you mean, but that's not something the people who actually make the art are doing. That's what the fans are doing.
 
There was no "cult of ugly" before now? What with Basil Wolverton and Klasky-Csupo and all the detailed gross closeups in cartoons?

From what I understand, the difference between those guys and the modern "cult of ugly" typified by stuff like "CalArts" style cartoons or Western AAA gaming, is that the former was ugly mainly for comedic effect while the other is intentionally ugly because Tumblr spergs are convinced that aesthetic beauty is somehow "problematic" or something.

It doesn't help that even in the heyday of the "gross close-up" Klasky-Csupo cartoons, you still had a lot of shows that didn't go for that. It wasn't as dominant as 2010's ugly.

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I get what you mean, but that's not something the people who actually make the art are doing. That's what the fans are doing.

It is worse on the fandom side, but recently, a lot of creators are listening to these Tumblr-type fans more often, and it's far more dominant. The creator of Steven Universe got her start as a Tumblr fan artist, IIRC.
 
I get what you mean, but that's not something the people who actually make the art are doing. That's what the fans are doing.
I was going to respond but @Syaoran Li got it. For every Klasky Csupo show or Ed Edd n Eddy, you had the DCAU shows or Gargoyles. There isn’t as much variety in the 2010s and you start to get tired of the potato faces and blobby body types.
 
... They infiltrate women's spaces and meepingly agree with everything they say, putting down their own gender in hopes of gaining social clout. If they really wanted women to think they're niceguys, they'd, for a start, blindly follow feminist dogma, kind of like what Scott Benson is doing right here.
I don't know about you guys, but I feel dirty after reading that Tweet.

I have the same reply for the both of you -
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I'd have posted the StoneToss "Camouflage" comic, but I don't have it on this device.

Surely there is a middle ground between hyper-sexualized and so-ugly-it-barely-looks-human. The majority of real women fall in that area, after all.

Objectively, the majority of women do, but remember that internally, 80% of women think they're all attractive enough to land one of the top 20% of men, according to that OkCupid survey that's miraculously disappeared as the site has turned into a cesspit of Woko Haram degeneracy.

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I'm sure it's also in the Gail Simon thread, but bitch has apparently completely flipped her fucking wig, and had a public twitter meltdown -
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I'm not posting all the images, and I cropped past some of the images she put in, but all the tweets are included. Basically, she appears to have snapped because BoP is a trash movie, but it actually doesn't resemble her comics storyline all that much, so she hates what was made, but she's expected to defend it, and instead she lost her shit and started a meltdown thread attacking strawmen of the people she thinks are slagging the movie, and whose money would have made it a success.

This doesn't look like a terrible fucking idea, nope, not at all -
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SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. COMMIE.
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Fuck you all, this shit was legitimately painfully stupid.
 
That is the Socialist Party of Great Britain (aka "Small Party of Good Boys") a very odd (and old) communist party that believes (true) communism will come about when the workers vote for it, which is inevitable because Karl Marx said so. They literally believe their only mission is to be a propaganda group to bring about communism faster so the workers will stop voting for capitalism or fascism. It's almost like an old-ass version of Twitter slacktivism.
 
That’s pretty different from what I’m talking about. Yes, ugly caricatures existed but it was played for comedy and the artist didn’t make it a grand parable on how art was supposed to be, just people having fun. Compare this to people who are literally getting triggered over someone having a more attractive icon and “fixing” fairly attractive character designs by making them unrecognizable grotesque.
It's a bit like Medieval artwork, where everyone except saints or kings looks like a gimp, and even the kings are reduced to average joes with a bit of finery. There was a strong wave of iconoclasm at the start of the Christian era, and it was about more than simply wrecking pagan stuff. It took until the renaissance for it to be acceptable for artists to draw beautiful people again IIRC .

Not sure if there's a conscious effort to replicate the success of Christianity or Nietzsche was right & they share slave morality.
 
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On immigration.

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Titania isn't real (even if she is to me), but Caroline Voaden is.

Whether or not you agree with the topic at hand, It's astounding how a joke account can only emulate the genuine, unwitting racism of a person who argues for immigration as a resource for lowly servants doing menial tasks.
 
On immigration.

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Titania isn't real (even if she is to me), but Caroline Voaden is.

Whether or not you agree with the topic at hand, It's astounding how a joke account can only emulate the genuine, unwitting racism of a person who argues for immigration as a resource for lowly servants doing menial tasks.
Modern day slavery
 
To borrow from another thread, this is what a lot of female characters in video games look like now.
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This is exactly what I was afraid was going to happen in the early days of Anita Sarkeesian and Tropes Vs Women, one of the first games that really got pushback over it's female characters was Dragon's Crown which really did have some pretty over the top designs, you could perhaps see circa 2013 people's dislike of it as being reasonable, but that's now evolved into the ResetERA mentality of people getting pissed off over the smallest amount of sexual content in games.

I knew it was going to be give an inch and they'll take a mile and it wouldn't stop at only the most over the top female characters and flagrant sexuality and I was exactly right.

Now the irony is is right smack dab in the middle of this era of ugly female character designs was the debut of one of the sexiest game girls ever, 2B from Nier Automata, who has a huge female fan following because thankfully not all female gamers are so insecure as to feel threatened by a sexy character design and proving that ResetERA doesn't have to be your audience and doesn't represent all gamers.

I think the reason left leaning people, even somewhat moderate ones, can't see the unfairness of the situation is because fundamentally they think that if a woman says something, a man's place is to simply agree with her no questions asked, no matter what, a woman simply can't be in the wrong and a man in the right, it just does not compute in their worldview, it's the same deal with white versus non-white.

I've argued with somewhat moderate liberals online about the state of gaming and comics and other nerdy interests and no matter what I said it literally all boiled down to the fact that the changes have been spearheaded by "women and minorities" therefore it's ok, nobody can complain about it, the final quality of a product doesn't matter depending on who made it, that's literally all there is to it, they refused to believe that people were upset about the work these creators were putting out and not just upset over their identity.

It boils down to white man = bad, woman and minority = good.

A black woman could hold up 4 fingers and ask a white guy to tell her it's 5 fingers and if he doesn't agree he's in the wrong, that's all there is to it.

And once people figured out that mentality existed of "I can do no wrong if I'm the right color or gender" they damn sure chose to exploit it, exploit it, exploit it at every opportunity.

To be fair, however, I would have to point out that some of the people on your list of "ugly video game characters" are just voice actors who are motion captured and happen to be ugly as opposed to a concerted effort to make those characters seem less attractive. I'm not 100% certain, but I think 4 of those people you pictured are in fact the same person - specifically Debra Wilson from "Mad TV" fame. There has been a major push for motion capturing voice actors (to increase immersion) so you're going to start recognizing faces sooner or later.
 
And it's still misogynistic. Just a different kind of misogynistic. You think the average woman is ugly as sin? Good for you, but most normal people don't hate women as much as you.

It's ironic misogyny stemming from misandry.

But there's something actually deep there when you analyze it, people don't actually hate others, they hate their own inadequacies and they project their own inadequacies onto others.

So all these ugly characters is a reflection of how feminists feel about themselves.

There was no "cult of ugly" before now? What with Basil Wolverton and Klasky-Csupo and all the detailed gross closeups in cartoons?

I remember one reason why anime blew my mind so much was because the female characters in them were so much more attractive than the majority of female characters I had seen in western cartoons of the 90s.

I mean I liked Klasky-Csupo's stuff a lot, but anime was still refreshing.

I'm sure it's also in the Gail Simon thread, but bitch has apparently completely flipped her fucking wig, and had a public twitter meltdown -
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I'm not posting all the images, and I cropped past some of the images she put in, but all the tweets are included. Basically, she appears to have snapped because BoP is a trash movie, but it actually doesn't resemble her comics storyline all that much, so she hates what was made, but she's expected to defend it, and instead she lost her shit and started a meltdown thread attacking strawmen of the people she thinks are slagging the movie, and whose money would have made it a success.

What a fucking freak.

To be fair, however, I would have to point out that some of the people on your list of "ugly video game characters" are just voice actors who are motion captured and happen to be ugly as opposed to a concerted effort to make those characters seem less attractive. I'm not 100% certain, but I think 4 of those people you pictured are in fact the same person - specifically Debra Wilson from "Mad TV" fame. There has been a major push for motion capturing voice actors (to increase immersion) so you're going to start recognizing faces sooner or later.

Yes, but why cast these ugly voice actors to begin with if you're going to scan their faces?
 
I get what you mean, but that's not something the people who actually make the art are doing.
Well, there are a few. Erica Henderson who draws Squirrel Girl comes to mind.

I'm sure it's also in the Gail Simon thread
Gail Simone doesn't have her own thread. The closest you'd get would be the Comicsgate thread, and it's been posted there, but that thread's mostly about Richard Meyer, EVS and a bunch of Comicsgate speds now.
 
How exactly would giving land back suddenly make homelessness, anti LGBT laws and climate change magically go away? Come to think of it, what makes them think the indigenous people won’t fuck up the land once they get it back?
This person has such a native fetish I swear.
You're answering your own question there. Magic.
These people genuinely think these things can be stopped by some sort of weird "cosmic balance" thing. It's a sort of strange result of hating religion (actually just hating Christianity), but still desiring its trappings. Too much Harry Potter, and "respect" for spiritualism without actually understanding any of it.

Look at the "witches" who cast their curse on Brett Kavanaugh as an example.

Trust me, if all the people they claim to hate just vanished one day then to their minds, Homelessness, anti-LGBT laws and climate change WOULD disappear, because they would no longer be useful to the current cause, and could be ignored. They would come back of course, once these brave rebels start turning on each other over the fact that they no longer have a common enemy (and they NEED a common enemy, or there entire self-image will fall apart.)
 
Yes, but why cast these ugly voice actors to begin with if you're going to scan their faces?

One part is immersion - when the voice and face match, it "feels" realer. Not to mention that if you are shooting for any kind of realism in a game, having characters who are unattractive adds to that realism (as there are unattractive people in the world).

Another part is cost - using the Debra Wilson example - she's mostly famous for "Mad TV" - she probably didn't cost all that much and has a very specific "kind of crazy" look about her. If they wanted to use someone else (like Kit Harrington, who they've used previously) more attractive, it likely would have cost them more money. Considering her part in that game (a single 3 minute scene) it likely wasn't worth it.
 
You're answering your own question there. Magic.
These people genuinely think these things can be stopped by some sort of weird "cosmic balance" thing. It's a sort of strange result of hating religion (actually just hating Christianity), but still desiring its trappings. Too much Harry Potter, and "respect" for spiritualism without actually understanding any of it.

Look at the "witches" who cast their curse on Brett Kavanaugh as an example.

Trust me, if all the people they claim to hate just vanished one day then to their minds, Homelessness, anti-LGBT laws and climate change WOULD disappear, because they would no longer be useful to the current cause, and could be ignored. They would come back of course, once these brave rebels start turning on each other over the fact that they no longer have a common enemy (and they NEED a common enemy, or there entire self-image will fall apart.)
I think you are right, when I was of the left years ago the talk was of empowering people, stopping suffering and fair wages for all. Now its we hate the rich we hate the white men (don't you know that homeless bum is super privileged) and so on. It is not (Labour) a moderate left movement to raise people up through education etc but a group of tossers who are driven by envy and hate of out groups, hell they are now throwing women under the bus for the altar of troon rights. Long ago I said fuck them, now well the vote goes for the Tories they don't pander to those who just want to take and put nothing back. The left has become the shouting ground of bitter losers who failed at life and are resentful of those who put the effort in and make something of their one chance at life.
 
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