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Grab the popcorn you guys. The appeals are gonna be amazing.
Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread
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tfw you’re such a forgettable loser that even lawyers pull a Ron Toye and do not recallI just noticed, Emmett Plant the perjurer isn't mentioned anywhere in the later sections where they argue against the various affidavits as hearsay/character evidence. Fucking Manjawlo gets mentioned, but not Emmett.
Vic-senpai does not notice you, and neither do Martinez Hsu.
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I wonder when will we get the responses to the initial appeals. It did seem faster than I thought.
Wasn't there a second wave of affidavits that Lemoine tried to add in the record that never made it in?
Maybe Emmett's was one of those (the Yost twin's are mentionned in the brief either).
PS: Not the best use of the JoJo meme, it will fit better when one of the defendants will turn on the others.
Maybe Emmett's was one of those (the Yost twin's are mentionned in the brief either).
PS: Not the best use of the JoJo meme, it will fit better when one of the defendants will turn on the others.
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MoRon's reply and cross-appeal are due March 19th. I assume the other appellees' replies will be around the same time. This is on an accelerated schedule so, what, a month between major filings?
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All they have to convince is Chupp and a jury.
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Convincing a jury is far more important than convincing Chupp, if he wins appeals.
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Did dis nigga just disagree with my kiwi waifu? I'm gonna have to leave a mean comment on his profile, that'll show him.
At least we get some content from Nick in the meantime.
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Good thing with a jury and Vic, is Vic would win that jury over easily, right as remote kid got up they'd all pronounce him a rapist and be sad they couldn't have him hanged, or at least given a death sentence.
I sure do hope appeals pass, and Ron shows those videos of Vic having a good time with fans, that'd totally help Vic, Ty would barely have to even work.
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Hopefully we'll get some more spurg-tainment for the sperg-tastic Toye every time.
Or convice some smart lawyers it's time to cut their clients off - which will be in the lawyer's best interests, if they want to see any money out of this case.
Or convice some smart lawyers it's time to cut their clients off - which will be in the lawyer's best interests, if they want to see any money out of this case.
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WhimsicalTrolli
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So negachin got a mention but perjury initiative didn't? He's gonna Minecraft himself.
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Wow. I actually read through the whole thing. It was clear, the points came across perfectly and the citations were great and consistent.
Yoooo...this brief is the tits. Makes me want to sit back, relax with a coffee and watch the defendants fall apart at the seams. Mm..what a time to be alive.
Extra edit: Mind ya'll, these are my opinions on the brief while looking at it from a perspective of someone who's just learning about this case as a whole. I'm a fan of things that cut straight to the point so the brief is very well constructed and well done in my eyes. I don't have a law degree, but I would be very pleased to read this and would be confident in my vote to reinstate the claims.
1.) The brief hits hard on the prima facie case which is what the TCPA was basically made for. It cuts straight to the point and doesn't bother with needless fluff. I already like it.
2.) They did a good job listing out all the the issues they wanted to appeal and touching on each one later on by stating all of the clear evidence that's been admitted and shown up to this point. This is even before discovery. Imagine afterward.
3.) The statement of facts was a nice summary of the case and the events that lead to a lawsuit needing to be filed to begin with. It's easy enough where even I can understand and I know jack shit about the law and law terminology. (Although thanks to Nick, I probably wouldn't have understood a goddamn thing about this brief).
4.) The brief does an amazing job at dismantling the whole of the defendants' "evidence" mostly in regards to almost all of the bullshit affidavits they filed. It attacks the validity of the documents and points out that they all use hearsay and statements made by other parties as "proof" of Vic's character instead of actual tangible proof of any of the things they accuse him of (like police reports, videos or pictures) nor proving that any other evidence or documents they show or use as ones they have the authority and/or professional position to obtain themselves (which would give that evidence some form of validity). You can't use opinions or off hand statements made by third parties as proof of a statement of fact i.e. saying that someone is guilty because some random shmuck said it so it makes it a 100% fact. No, it does not work this way and legal documents filed to the court with nothing but opinions and hearsay as factual proof of someone's guilt can't be admitted due to the fact that HEARSAY is not admissible EVIDENCE and so, Vic's motions to strike all that inadmissible fluff was ignored when it should not have been.
5.) They do a fine job at connecting the dots between the defendants and how their actions and statements can be tied to each individual claim Vic makes against them by specifically using all the evidence they've admitted into the record to prove their points. There's no hearsay, no fluff, no opinion. Just statement of what the evidence shows, citations and all.
2.) They did a good job listing out all the the issues they wanted to appeal and touching on each one later on by stating all of the clear evidence that's been admitted and shown up to this point. This is even before discovery. Imagine afterward.
3.) The statement of facts was a nice summary of the case and the events that lead to a lawsuit needing to be filed to begin with. It's easy enough where even I can understand and I know jack shit about the law and law terminology. (Although thanks to Nick, I probably wouldn't have understood a goddamn thing about this brief).
4.) The brief does an amazing job at dismantling the whole of the defendants' "evidence" mostly in regards to almost all of the bullshit affidavits they filed. It attacks the validity of the documents and points out that they all use hearsay and statements made by other parties as "proof" of Vic's character instead of actual tangible proof of any of the things they accuse him of (like police reports, videos or pictures) nor proving that any other evidence or documents they show or use as ones they have the authority and/or professional position to obtain themselves (which would give that evidence some form of validity). You can't use opinions or off hand statements made by third parties as proof of a statement of fact i.e. saying that someone is guilty because some random shmuck said it so it makes it a 100% fact. No, it does not work this way and legal documents filed to the court with nothing but opinions and hearsay as factual proof of someone's guilt can't be admitted due to the fact that HEARSAY is not admissible EVIDENCE and so, Vic's motions to strike all that inadmissible fluff was ignored when it should not have been.
5.) They do a fine job at connecting the dots between the defendants and how their actions and statements can be tied to each individual claim Vic makes against them by specifically using all the evidence they've admitted into the record to prove their points. There's no hearsay, no fluff, no opinion. Just statement of what the evidence shows, citations and all.
Yoooo...this brief is the tits. Makes me want to sit back, relax with a coffee and watch the defendants fall apart at the seams. Mm..what a time to be alive.
Extra edit: Mind ya'll, these are my opinions on the brief while looking at it from a perspective of someone who's just learning about this case as a whole. I'm a fan of things that cut straight to the point so the brief is very well constructed and well done in my eyes. I don't have a law degree, but I would be very pleased to read this and would be confident in my vote to reinstate the claims.
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And he did... (EDIT: well, more or less, it wasn't really mean...)
Posting off-topic isn't my jam, but I can make an exception for once.
Here it is buddy, enjoy:
Like it?
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I’ll say this, the jury could be composed with anyone. If Chupp, Texas kick the can king can get this case, what are the odds that the jury is the kind of people that Vic can’t charm instantly?
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I think having "Ron and Monica" instead of "Lemoine's Fees" and the first two people kicking them being ISWV and BHBC would be more fitting, TBH.
Edit: Actually, Lemoine on the floor with BHBC and Nick kicking him and Wick Phillips joining in would be kino.
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Ever read Pinker's book on writing style? He talks about the "curse of knowledge" where knowing something makes it harder, not easier, to write pithily about it.
Sounds like Hsu Martinez either are masters of getting rid of the curse or they really are new to the case and brought no emotional baggage to it, being able to cut to the quick, ignoring extraneous fluff.
Sounds like Hsu Martinez either are masters of getting rid of the curse or they really are new to the case and brought no emotional baggage to it, being able to cut to the quick, ignoring extraneous fluff.
Agree with the initial proposition, too soon for the second one.
I also thought about making Dahlin as Abbacchio join to kick MoRonica, but I don't quite know who to put on Mista and Narancia beside Slatosch...
But time to stop with the off-topic stuff, I'm not here to meme.
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I'm sure tonight wont be a lot of fun at Moronica's house and they had to be blowing up Lemoine's voice mail and phone now.
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Ron's probably perusing the TV section of the local Best Buy as we speak.