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The Jamaica video is horrendous. Is this a Schofield 2.0.?
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Ah, so you don't know what you're talking about and your opinion is meaningless. At least you admit it.When someone films their baby or cat and they recieve money, this is done without their consent but preserves their dignity. I don't want to defend Fathering Autism, I haven't watched enough of his videos to know if her dignity has been preserved or not.
Except I wasn't arguing on his behalf, r.etard, I was arguing whether it's justified to make money off somone with a disability.Ah, so you don't know what you're talking about and your opinion is meaningless. At least you admit it.
You were saying he isn't exploiting his daughter because he doesn't do shit like humiliate her. You qualified that he isn't exploiting her as long as he preserves her dignity and you have no idea if he does that. He invites his tard gazers to meet and greets with her where she freaks out and vlogs about her shitting herself. I just clued you in on how much he cares about her dignity.Except I wasn't arguing on his behalf, r.etard, I was arguing whether it's justified to make money off somone with a disability.
No, I'm saying he is exploiting her and there's nothing fundamentally wrong with that. But you're right, the more I look into him the more I dislike him.You were saying he isn't exploiting his daughter because he doesn't do shit like humiliate her. You qualified that he isn't exploiting her as long as he preserves her dignity and you have no idea if he does that. He invites his tard gazers to meet and greets with her where she freaks out and vlogs about her shitting herself. I just clued you in on how much he cares about her dignity.
You literally just wrote this:No, I'm saying he is exploiting her and there's nothing fundamentally wrong with that. But you're right, the more I look into him the more I dislike him.
Is he preserving her dignity or not? Have you read more than the thread title in an effort to figure that out?This is why I stated it's "morally gray," her inability to consent is problematic, however so long as her dignity is preserved I can't condemn earning money through her.
I'm not against the idea of what he's doing, I'm against how he's doing it. I wanted to avoid accusing him of horrible things, even if those things were obvious. I was debating if it was ethical to make money off someone who can't consent, not whether this guy in particular is a monster.You literally just wrote this:
Is he preserving her dignity or not? Have you read more than the thread title in an effort to figure that out?
I wouldn't say Schofield 2.0, I'd say Gwen 2.0.The Jamaica video is horrendous. Is this a Schofield 2.0.?
Why do you reference her case specifically if you're talking about it in general?I'm not against the idea of what he's doing, I'm against how he's doing it. I wanted to avoid accusing him of horrible things, even if those things were obvious. I was debating if it was ethical to make money off someone who can't consent, not whether this guy in particular is a monster.
the conversation evolved. I think it's run it's course anyway, clogging the thread up with my bullshit should proabably end here though.Why do you reference her case specifically if you're talking about it in general?
I see your point, and concede that my stance is weaker in having merely intuited that the autistic girl's inability of giving informed consent was accompanied by a deprivation of dignity/violation of her rights. I also acknowledge that you have expressed your sentiment while admitting to not knowing much about the family in question (and the issue of as to whether there is any violation), so it's intellectually honest as well. TL;DR, I lost this argument from the start. The end.Because her entire life revolves around her inability to give consent. Can someone as fundamentally disabled as her consent to someone bathing her, feeding her, clothing her, etc. Sure, these are essentials to living, but can she also consent to someone playing with her, taking her to the park, etc.?
When playing with a child or petting an animal, so long as they appear to be enjoying the contact, one assumes that they consent to the contact. Many pedophiles and zoophiles, in turn, believe that sexual contact with children and animals is justified so long as they appear to be enjoying the contact. What seperates these two actions is that one is fundamentally degrading and the other preserves dignity.
When someone films their baby or cat and they recieve money, this is done without their consent but preserves their dignity. I don't want to defend Fathering Autism, I haven't watched enough of his videos to know if her dignity has been preserved or not.
This is why I stated it's "morally gray," her inability to consent is problematic, however so long as her dignity is preserved I can't condemn earning money through her. Even when crossing into morally gray territory, the financial and social burden that caring for a severely disabled person makes earning money through them generally justified (I say generally, because I'm not familiar with this family).
I genuinely appreciate your well thought out responses.
Fucking lol. So you were talking out of your ass and then weaseling and shifting goalposts, and even a little concession, in the hopes I would stop calling you out and now it's over because you say it's over? Look, I saw what you were doing and decided to fuck with you. Watching you squirm is hilarious. Autists deserve to be held down and have their screams recorded.the conversation evolved. I think it's run it's course anyway, clogging the thread up with my bullshit should proabably end here though.