Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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What companies?
Lots of small companies like Google, Amazon etc. My company banned international travel a couple of days ago. But it's already too little, too late.

At this point I don't think there's much to do but accept 1-3% of people are gonna die. I originally made fun of this thread for being doomers, but I don't see how it can go any other way at this point. It's highly contagious, it's already all over the world and little further effort is being made to contain it.
The only hope is that the % is wrong if a large amount of people have been infected and don't show symptoms.
 
Just spoke to a nurse friend of mine who works at Sir Charles Gardner Hospital. She told me this on the downlow so take it with a grain of salt.
That one infected guy who was flown in from the Death Princess cruise? Well his wife has now apparently tested positive too. Problem is, she's been allowed to come and go as she pleases, visiting him in hospital and then returning to her normal everyday routine in public. I guess we wait and see if this is where we get fucked over 💩

It just baffles me why no first world governments seem to be taking this seriously. It doesn't matter that the death toll is only 1-2%. It's HIGHLY infectious, start treating it as such and stop letting people just roam around that have been exposed. FFS, do your goddamn jobs.
 
So, how long before China goes full Dr. Evil and starts sending pollution goblins infected to countries that have it handled pretty well?

Because that shit sounds exactly what CHINANUMBAONE! would do.
If you played the OG Deus ex you'd know what's really up.
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It just baffles me why no first world governments seem to be taking this seriously. It doesn't matter that the death toll is only 1-2%. It's HIGHLY infectious, start treating it as such and stop letting people just roam around that have been exposed. FFS, do your goddamn jobs.

They can't be seen "taking this seriously" until all their shit is ready to go.
If someone says the wrong words or the right words in the wrong way you will see cities burn.
What do you want them to do? Come right out and say "hey, this shit is about to kill 5% of you and China fucked up the quarantine from the start so there was never any chance of avoiding any of this"?

There is no quarantine.
There is no way to quarantine your way out of this and there hasn't been for a month now.
 
Lots of small companies like Google, Amazon etc. My company banned international travel a couple of days ago. But it's already too little, too late.

At this point I don't think there's much to do but accept 1-3% of people are gonna die. I originally made fun of this thread for being doomers, but I don't see how it can go any other way at this point. It's highly contagious, it's already all over the world and little further effort is being made to contain it.
The only hope is that the % is wrong if a large amount of people have been infected and don't show symptoms.

He's claiming domestic travel was banned, too. Hence why I asked.
 

This is the heavy duty biocontainment unit that handled ebola and is now being used for Wu Flu. Noted this toward the bottom:

"With up to 10 beds, the Nebraska Biocontainment Unit is the largest such facility in the U.S. and one of only three in the country. The other biocontainment facilities are located at Emory University in Atlanta and at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md."

So we have 3 places with a total of less than 30 beds between them for the worst of the worst. I hope after all is said and done we look to increase that number. I also wonder how many units like these most countries have.
 
We have been over this already.

COVID-19 is a pneumonia virus, China is having a very high death rate due to a high population of smokers, chronic heavy pollution and high population density.

India will have a slightly lower death rate and Europe lower still.
The US is a crapshoot, southern California with its smog issues and high population density combined with homeless streetshitters will be a problem.
New York City will have a problem with the high population density, air pollution and their arrogance thinking that being New Yorkers somehow gives them magic powers to cope with problems like the very minor hurricane Sandy.
G*rmans should have share that marveluos 1940s technology for burning so many bodies entirely in so short time, that must have been very high temperature. How they managed that that many years ago, and now this takes so much time?
It could be useful for waste incinerator facilities and help planet clean. Why it is kept secret?
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Maybe they just dug big holes and buried the rest, the crematoria were for the trickle of deaths before the kill rate ramped up.
 
He's claiming domestic travel was banned, too. Hence why I asked.

They’re also banning in-person interviews.

Amazon isn’t the only one. T-mobile has banned travel too as well as others. GDC was just cancelled.

Is it normal to not read the news in the midst of a pandemic?
 
Just spoke to a nurse friend of mine who works at Sir Charles Gardner Hospital. She told me this on the downlow so take it with a grain of salt.
That one infected guy who was flown in from the Death Princess cruise? Well his wife has now apparently tested positive too. Problem is, she's been allowed to come and go as she pleases, visiting him in hospital and then returning to her normal everyday routine in public. I guess we wait and see if this is where we get fucked over 💩

Well that’s not at all horrifying. Like I said, it’s probably already here.

And this weekend is labour day, meaning people are travelling all over, spreading it around.

I live regionally so I’m hopefully a bit more insulated than you guys in Perth.

Stock up on supplies dude, order online with woolies. That’s what I did.
 
Someone told me about a 4Chan thread. A user changed his IP to a Chinese one and went on Grindr to get interviews with locals. Supposedly discovered some really nasty things.

Would love to read that if true. The only thing good about this disease is getting a chance to vent about authoritarian governments. China really needs to toss out the old guard and liberalize their government. Not necessarily become a Western style Democracy, but get rid of the rat fuckers screwing up the system.

Also, someone made an interesting point to me today. We were talking about why Hubei was hit harder than other provinces, was told they are the poorest province in all of China. Widespread household electric was not a thing until about 10 years ago. He shared something with me about their medical system, as of November there were a total of 16 functional respirators in the entire province. The medical system was designed to look good, not work well, and no one who lives there knows the difference.

Dunno about the 16 respirators but pretty confident people there have mostly received TCM, especially in the prefab hospitals. We talked about the ratio of doctors to population throughout Southeast Asia, Vietnam and Cambodia have about 1 doctor for every 90k people. The odds of their Ministries of Health containing this disease are very low - in urban areas. The best thing people in the Asian sticks have going for them is extreme poverty - it will be hard for the virus to propagate in sparsely populated villages.

All of this has become incredibly depressing. Starting to believe the Trump Curse is a real, anything he campaigned on in 2016 will happen and you will be crushed if you get in his way. He said industry has to come back to the US, pretty sure the markets are preparing to adjust in that direction. But it will be for the worst reasons.

finest Chinese test kits
You know the Chinese kits physically exist, because they are only 30% effective. If they were just randomly guessing, the results would be more like 50%.

A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and can’t afford the deductible let alone an extended hospital stay with insurance. They need that paycheck every two weeks to pay rent and buy food. This is going to be a massive problem here because people will go to work sick, especially the service industry (restaurants, bars, coffee shops, etc).
Just like flu shots, test kits and vaccines (when they become available) will be free. The Government has an interest in containing the virus.

Right now, Wall Street is able to credibly claim US market fundamentals are sound, it's disruptions to the supply chain elsewhere that are responsible for drops in the stock market. Not fucking that up needs to be the priority for the next 12 months. If people are dropping dead in the streets and people are quarantining at home, the country is absolutely fucked.

Travis AFB update
Hospital-working IT airmen are being asked if their workstations can work in tents and I'm about to have a panicked meltdown once the shock wears off.
I don't power level, but I do know about an 80-person IT team that was relocated from inside a hospital at a major Federal agency. They are moving non-medical personnel temporarily to other buildings, and they won't be allowed on campus after about a month.

Staff relocation appears to be the best way to understand what's going on with emergency response. Someone should make an index listing the average distance of IT workers from each hospital, that will probably reveal how prepared any particular facility is.
 
So what are we supposed to do? Become doomers, get sick, and maybe maybe die?

RELAX, first. Just pay attention to what's going on in your area. Use common sense. If there are cases in your area, avoid crowds, sneeze into handkerchief/elbow, wash hands as often as possible.

Despite all the blather, the vast majority of cases and deaths are in China. If the CCP hadn't fucked this up beyond all recognition, things in China would have gone much better.

Personally, am not sweating it, and I'm in my seventh decade of life, with some health issues. So if I'm not sweating it, why should you?

All you need to do is keep your wits about you. If you can keep your wits about you when everyone else seems to be losing theirs, you'll be just fine.
 
So you ignore the fact that you don't need money to be treated at a hospital, you assume a doctor will be able to tell you what virus you have (we don't have a reliable test for COVID-19 yet) and you can't explain just what you think a doctor can do...

Getting hit with a 40,000 USD bill is a big deterrent. Men are already predisposed to not going and this does not help.

Except they aren't common at all. Most food born illness comes from lettuce.

Ground beef and lettuce. Things handled by people and machines.

I see you know nothing about massive wait lists common in Europe nor the fact that the UK and Canada have large masses of people without a family doctor to call in the first place.

And you actually think that companies are going to risk massive lawsuits in the most suehappy nation in the world....I can't even.

Waitlists because people actually wait for line instead of giving up and staying at home. Of course, pretending as though America has no lines is absurd.

Workplace safety IS a cost cutting measure.

Go away and come back after you've actually worked in the US for a year, your ignorance is astounding.

Can't be sued if your workers are from poor families or are illegal immigrants. Kinda why being forced to work while a hurricane is raging or while horribly sick is a thing.
 
Bill Gates calls coronavirus a 'once-in-a-century' pathogen

CHICAGO, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Philanthropist Bill Gates on Friday urged wealthy nations to help low and middle-income countries strengthen their health systems in hopes of slowing the spread of the coronavirus, which Gates said has started to behave like a “once-in-a-century” pathogen.

“By helping countries in Africa and South Asia get ready now,” we can save lives and also slow the global circulation of this virus,” Gates, the former chairman and chief executive of Microsoft Corp, wrote in an editorial in the New England Journal of Medicine.

The novel coronavirus that first emerged in China and has now spread to 46 countries is much harder to stop than similar viruses that caused the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) or Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), Gates wrote. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has already pledged $100 million to fight the outbreak.

Gates’ plea was echoed on Friday by the World Health Organization, which said the risk was very high that the virus would spread and have a global impact.

The WHO implored governments to swing into action to contain the virus before it becomes widespread. Such actions could slow the virus, giving nations more time to prepare, officials said.

“Health systems around the world are just not ready,” Dr. Mike Ryan, head of the WHO emergencies program, told a news briefing.

Gates said the world needs to invest in disease surveillance and better technology to accelerate the development of safe and effective vaccines and drugs.

Besides technical solutions, Gates called for better diplomatic efforts to drive international collaboration and data sharing, and increased government spending on drugs and vaccines that would give private companies incentives to take up such efforts.
 
This my boss only got 5 test kits 1 was used on me. We're in Oregon and it's unnerving being on top of California; Its spooking me so I may have to go to my cabin in Appalachia or perhaps go to my vacation home in savvanah. Fuck it Greenland here I come.
OR you can go to your castle in Camelot! OR your flying airship!
 
RELAX, first. Just pay attention to what's going on in your area. Use common sense. If there are cases in your area, avoid crowds, sneeze into handkerchief/elbow, wash hands as often as possible.

Despite all the blather, the vast majority of cases and deaths are in China. If the CCP hadn't fucked this up beyond all recognition, things in China would have gone much better.

Personally, am not sweating it, and I'm in my seventh decade of life, with some health issues. So if I'm not sweating it, why should you?

All you need to do is keep your wits about you. If you can keep your wits about you when everyone else seems to be losing theirs, you'll be just fine.

Ok boomer.
 
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