sperging about chantal's psychopathology

[clusterfuckk]

Listen Chinny

shame was a very useful tool back in the day before the SJW movement that created a generation of special snowflakes.
anyone who suffers severe mental breakdowns from shame, are likely someone like you Chinny; delusional and without any introspection.
In normal non sociopathic people, shame generally makes you take a look at yourself and see if there are areas you can improve.

 

[THOTto]

Unlike a lot of sociopaths, this one is not keenly intelligent, and she trips over her own fat self all the time.

There are far more low-IQ or low functioning sociopaths then high functioning ones. They just tend to be career criminals and grifters. You just don’t hear about them as often. Because outside of their crimes there isn’t much to discuss.

She will purchase a CBT/DBT workbook off Amazon and fill it out alone in her roach infested Canadian welfare housing, leaving pages stained with grease and dips while clinging to a new YT guru for her "research based" video about it where she lectures viewers condescendingly of course about the importance of self-care ya know, the usual.

She couldn’t even fill out the diet worksheets to put on camera, the one time she did a day’s worth she reused the image. I’m sure she’d buy a workbook but I doubt she would do more then a page or two, if that. Then it would become feed for the next generation of roaches, circle of life.

 

[Pizza Sloth]

Her 'anxiety' sounds more like entitlement driven anger issues.

Sperg thought-moment:

I totally agree and thought about how it was odd as to how she described her panic or anxiety 'attack'. Her descriptions of the moments she was starting to feel 'anxiety' was actually more like uncontrolled inner rage and impatience. Now I do believe Chantal has anxiety and we've seen it on camera when she has to confront an elevator "ohh nooooo should I take the stairs?" and mostly in the video where she went to the movies with Reena and everything was a fucking challenge - her parking in the garage, walking to the theatre - it was exhausting.

But wanting to punch, push, shove, etc is anger. Frustration. Impatience. Intolerance. Feeling lack of control over others.

Part of my basis for this theory I have is in my recent bing watching 600lb Life, those people show anxiety when in public. I'm not going to list the adjectives because our Goryl Chantal tends to parrot a lot (best example was the "I feel hopeless" before going to the PsychEmerge with the compuslive cheese eating to fast track her into treatment by a few weeks) , though anyone who has watched the show will realize they do not use the same words or narrative that Chantal does to express their anxiety.

I did a quick search on anger and overeating and came across this statment "If I find myself overeating when I’m angry it’s usually because I want to stuff something down." When I first started watching Chantal what struck me was she was telling these fucked up stories with the overtures or direct topic being sexual encounters, but it was like every bite was also to cope as she relived the memory. Instead of sex stories that she's now run out of, her emotional unbalance is based on her activity on Youtube and social media as she cannot control the reactions she receives other than censoring, deleting and disabling.

She can't control anything in her life and I think that pisses her off because she may want to. But she can't handle it because it hurts her, or she's too lazy... so then she swings to the other extreme by trying to take absolute control with the restrictive diets and the deleting/disabling.

That stuck out because I think the person wrote that without realizing how it is both metaphorical and literal. I also wound up going to my little library I have of saved videos and a few really struck me as being more relevant now. One thing is for certain is that she has and still uses the same fucking bullshit comments, statements, admissions verbatim. "It's MY channel and I should be able to do what I want without the negativity" along with "I don't know what I want, I need to figure it out. This doesn't feel right for me". It's one thing to know that she repeats herself, it's weird to look at a video a year or older and it goes from redundant to creepy.

Oh, like her diets, she's been seeing therapists sporadically and tied to her eating cycle. But one video I will upload later as I do not have access to it now.

 

[raritycunt]

Her 'anxiety' sounds more like entitlement driven anger issues.

Yes I noticed that, if someone is anxious it’s because they feel like THEY are the issue and will do any and every thing they can to stay out the way and not draw attention to themselves. Chantal does not do this; she rolls her eyes, shoves her cart in front of people and when someone does look at her they see an obviously angry person. She’s not anxious she’s outraged that she has to share a space with other people, and as usual her target is other women and children.

 

[Strine]

Psychology sperg:

For normal people, it's "out of sight, out of mind". For a solipsist though, the phrase is "out of sight, out of mind, out of existence". Chantal hides things she regrets from herself because in her demented world, where she's in control and the only real person, this "undoes" them. She will then fail ten times out of ten to comprehend that other people remember these things and hold her accountable for them, because other people don't exist; no theory of mind et cetera.

She then has a complete meltdown because somebody burst her narc fantasy bubble and she was forced to confront actual reality, not her fantasy version of it, and her mortal fear and anger at herself are inevitably displaced into self-affirmational pontification about diets and a good old-fashioned chimpout usually directed at nobody in particular: the vituperation doesn't require a target, because its function is reflexive. She performs it to reaffirm her delusions to herself and drown out the voice in her head telling her the unvarnished truth. The chimpouts being entirely self-contained are also why she will very often say things like "if you expect someone with [self-diagnosed condition] to [thing nobody expected, but that she said she'd do] then [chimp chimp chimp]". Nobody expected her to keep her word; she's angry at HERSELF because she didn't do it. But because Chantal is the queen of the universe and unculpable for anything, the blame is externalised. The narc solipsist does not err; rather She is unjustly indicted by the imagined Other People.

Her pretend diets, and indeed all of her psychic dysfunction are due to this. She doesn't troll, she can't; trolling requires a self-aware sense of irony, and she doesn't have one. It's also why she has literally never ever said anything witty or funny; irony is the mother of humour. When Chantal goes on a diet, she doesn't actually go on a diet. But in her head, affirming that she's going on a diet means she's on one, no matter what she actually eats on it. If she just reports the healthy food and pretends extra hard that she's not eating truckloads of Arby's in addition to (or just instead of) that, it will make it so, because She wills it. She lies like a rug to us, but that is merely symptomatic of the lies she tells herself. Her little fantasy world takes a great deal of lying and pretending to cultivate and maintain. She is not lying to mislead us, she is lying to mislead herself: what she says to us, she wishes to be so.

You have to be really fucking stupid to think like this; but a particular kind of spoilt, cultivated stupid. It's not a low-IQ kind of stupid; a systemic psychic construction of this magnitude requires a normal IQ level, although clearly she's not in the triple digits. Rather, an inculcated sense of princess syndrome from her white trash upbringing was combined with an emotional reliance on food because daddy left, and at that age, Chantal was already sufficiently full of herself for someone leaving her against her supreme will to demolish her psyche. No child is ever unaffected by a divorce, but Kim was such an atrociously indulgent mother that what was circumstantially a fairly normal childhood produced a 450lb demented social pariah who tries to abate her completely lucid sense of inadequacy and panic about her life's course by living in a fantasy world.

100% of what makes her a cow, and what will kill her very soon, may be extrapolated from this. She is so insulated from reality, and so accustomed to getting what she wants, that she simply believes things will happen if She wills them to happen, and when they inevitably don't because she didn't feel like eating less, or because she didn't feel like putting any effort in, it's 0% her fault. In Chantal Fantasy Land, other people are unthinking, persecuting forces, like the demons of Hell; they are her self-hatreds and her exasperated conscience personified outside herself. This is why they do not exist: she is so consummately convinced of her own perfection that undesirable truths of her own mind, those chiding thoughts that antagonise her ideal of herself, are imposed on other people like masks only she can see. She cannot even stand to conceive of them as being within her. This is the fundament of narcissistic solipsism: She is so all-consumingly obsessed with Herself that other people are also part of Her. This is why she won't change, not ever. She has constructed a self-contained axiomatic delusion that allows her to think of herself as a beautiful beloved princess when she's a nasty 450lb ogre. You know what I meeeeeeeeean?


edit: unspoilered because my autism doesn't belong under a bushel

 

[Dutch Courage]

I think i have given Chantal too much credit by saying that she is stuck in high school. I am downgrading her to somewhere between elementary school and junior high. Your average high school student has travelled to other countries or at least understands that you need a passport to travel and the concept of currency conversion. You have to be a complete imbecile to not grasp the simple fact that if they took the Canadian money, they would have lost on the transaction as it is less valuable than the US dollar.

I think the most baffling thing is the way that she simultaneously expresses her ignorance and arrogance when reality clashes with her simplified imaginary version of it. The way she refuses to admit that maybe she should have educated herself and instead blames others for her own failings; is still shocking even after years of following her.

If I may put my pop-psychologist hat on for a moment (mine has a twirly propeller on top).

I've often mused about her stunted emotional and intellectual growth. It's there, and obvious to anyone paying enough attention. But at what age is she stunted? I've come to the conclusion that there seem to be three ages of stunting at play.

The first major stunting of her emotional and intellectual development seems to have happened around the age of three or four. When we haydurs call her an overgrown toddler, there's a reason. Her issues with impulse control, tantrums, abandonment, all-or-nothingisms, sharing, fascination with shit, and maybe even her eating itself seem almost infantile. Just my rando guess, but something traumatic may have happened to her around that age (which, IIRC, corresponds roughly with Grandma taking over full-time child raising duty? Just a guess)

The second mass stunting seems to have occurred during adolescence, at the cusp of sexual maturity. Her gross jokes, her fart humor, her confusion about sex, her love of drama, her need to be adored, her obsessiveness, her Mean Girls streak, her disrespect of adult propriety, her antisocial tendencies, her general social awkwardness, her lack of foresight and planning, and her bipolar mood shifts bespeak of a never-ending puberty that has never been resolved. I'd guess the traumatic experience here happened around the age of 14-15, maybe as early as 13, and it might have been something as simple as being rejected in high school for being a fat freak.

The final stunting seems to have occurred around the ages 18-20, and it is more of an intellectual stunting than an emotional one, but not exclusively so. She seems to have given up on education entirely during high school (from what we know of her, I would guess truancy and absenteeism were issues in high school and college) Chantal is educated enough that she can correctly apply present perfect verb tense (have eaten, have seen), which Amberlynn, the Slatons, and Amy can't do (have ate, have saw), which suggests a minimal intelligence the aforementioned fatties lack. However, she displays a fatal lack of curiosity about the world and life itself that ordinary young adults thrive on. Her displays of basic lack of knowledge concerning history, current events, culture, politics, or literally any subject under the sun suggests a stunting of intellectual development throughout high school. In addition, she displays one of the most abject lacks of critical thinking skills that I have ever seen in a person who is not at least mildly retardo. Like zero, zilch. Those are supposed to kick in during high school, but they never did for her. She can report facts (kinda, she's pretty poor at it really), but she can never provide insight.

So, at her most adult and mature of micro-moments, she is like an under-educated 20-year-old. Other times, she is like a gross and obnoxious 14-year-old, and many times she is a raging, tantrum-throwing 4-year-old. Depends on which emotional or intellectual characteristic we are considering.

I will now remove my propeller hat.

 

[Fae’ri]

She’s a narcissist, so she’s insists on wearing them for 2 reasons:

1) They attract attention, which, besides food, is all she lives for.

2) People have told her that they’re hideous. Her, realizing that the shades get a rise out of people, will continue to wear them. It’s just what narcissists do- leverage intense reactions.

Does she not have a mirror or is she completely devoid of any sense of fashion whatsoever? Those glasses look horrible on her. They’d look horrible on 99.9% of people. Even giant glasses made by reputable designers are hard to pull off. Hers are amusement park quality. Basically something carnies would give to an autistic child in the middle of a sperg out to get them to leave.

 

[Cattypakes]

As someone who struggles with drug addiction (15months sober) her constant rants about "food addiction" and "not my choice" etc drives me nuts. Of course it's a choice whether you are addicted or not. And when she says that she can't stop eating food but a drug user can stop using drugs, I get so mad because with drugs and alcohol, your body becomes chemically dependant. With food, you just like how it tastes and how you feel. But you will not have seizures, be really sick, etc if you stop eating goddamn fast food. She has to choose to give up fast food and if she does that then I can start to take her seriously. But her spouting about addiction while actively using "her drug" is fcking ridiculous. A craving for food is not like a craving for a substance. And it is ALWAYS a choice, even when you make the poor one. Part of recovery is taking responsibility and accountability of your actions and how you got where you are. She will never do that. She will never cut out fast food. She will die an early death from grotesque morbid obesity

Edited to add: an alcoholic has to be around alcohol all the time but aren't allowed to have it. Holidays, parties, grocery stores, general society... Alcohol is everywhere. She's a self entitled dunce who is so used to being given everything she has no idea what it feels like to have to try and put in effort for anything.

 

[ButterMyMuffin]

This is how Chantal copes with her own reality. I'm not a psychologist, but I'm sure there is a term for it beyond just "denial."

In her mind, she is already living in a luxury apartment, decorated beautifully, where she can do cooking vlogs in her huge ass kitchen, and it will make her a Youtube star with 5 million subscribers.

She takes her breakup with Bibi as a "sign" that there are better things to come in the near future. And everybody will be green with envy as soon as she loses a ton of weight and scores a hot new boyfriend. She literally has said all of these things in the past few days.

I think deep down, she knows all of that will never happen. But in order to keep herself from committing suicide, she has to believe this is a possibility. It's almost like a survival mechanism. Very sad. If it was anyone other than Chantal, I would actually feel really sorry for them.

 

[Cock wombler]

This is how Chantal copes with her own reality. I'm not a psychologist, but I'm sure there is a term for it beyond just "denial."

In her mind, she is already living in a luxury apartment, decorated beautifully, where she can do cooking vlogs in her huge ass kitchen, and it will make her a Youtube star with 5 million subscribers.

She takes her breakup with Bibi as a "sign" that there are better things to come in the near future. And everybody will be green with envy as soon as she loses a ton of weight and scores a hot new boyfriend. She literally has said all of these things in the past few days.

I think deep down, she knows all of that will never happen. But in order to keep herself from committing suicide, she has to believe this is a possibility. It's almost like a survival mechanism. Very sad. If it was anyone other than Chantal, I would actually feel really sorry for them.

There is something called maladaptive daydreaming which is where the person spends a long time daydreaming to the point it can affect their real life because they choose to daydream over attending school/work/socialising. It's almost like living another life in their head where everything is amazing to escape the shit reality that they live in.

 

[Beezer]

No psychologist either but this is likely maladaptive daydreaming.

Wikipedia:

"Maladaptive daydreaming, also known as excessive daydreaming, is a disordered form of dissociative absorption associated with vivid and excessive fantasy activity that often involves elaborate and fanciful scenarios. It can result in distress, can replace human interaction and may interfere with normal functioning such as social life or work. People who suffer from maladaptive daydreaming can spend more than half their days in "vivid alternative universes"."

ETA stealthed. But I guess we're onto something.

 

[Stormy Daniel's Lawyer]

This is how Chantal copes with her own reality. I'm not a psychologist, but I'm sure there is a term for it beyond just "denial."

In her mind, she is already living in a luxury apartment, decorated beautifully, where she can do cooking vlogs in her huge ass kitchen, and it will make her a Youtube star with 5 million subscribers.

She takes her breakup with Bibi as a "sign" that there are better things to come in the near future. And everybody will be green with envy as soon as she loses a ton of weight and scores a hot new boyfriend. She literally has said all of these things in the past few days.

I think deep down, she knows all of that will never happen. But in order to keep herself from committing suicide, she has to believe this is a possibility. It's almost like a survival mechanism. Very sad. If it was anyone other than Chantal, I would actually feel really sorry for them.

She'll be dead soon enough at the rate she's going..

 

[Refrigerator Poet]

Her 'addiction' to fast food and her utterly re.tartded insistence on comparing it to real addictions just shows how little she actually understands addiction. Does she think there aren't any ex-junkies who do have to use addictive medication in moderation? Does she think there are no former addicts who have chronic pain conditions, or injuries that would require the use of medications? Just because you got sober doesn't mean you don't magically need pain treatment somewhere along the line. Treatment of addiction isn't about getting off the substance past the most initial phase, it's about treating the underlying condition that cause the abuse of shit, and learning how to handle the urge to be self destructive. If her food addition was real than traditional addiction therapy would absolutely treat it. But we all know it's just an excuse for gluttony, and she has no interest in changing it.

It’s like she heard about that one guy who was an addict and had a bunch of dental work done without any painkillers because he had to practice total abstinence.

Except she doesn’t realize that story came from A Million Little Pieces and that guy was James Frey, and that book was total bullshit that came back to bite everybody in the ass, including Oprah.

 

[raritycunt]

The whole food addict thing annoys me because it’s not the same as other addictions in my opinion; I’ve never seen someone prostitute themselves for pizza, mug old ladies for milkshake money or break into someone’s house and steal shit to sell for McDonald’s cash. She doesn’t have a clue what real addiction is she’s just an overweight, spoilt greedy bitch who uses food as a substitute for friends and family. That’s not an addiction Chantal that’s just a coping mechanism.

 

[SituationTypeThing]

As someone who struggles with drug addiction (15months sober) her constant rants about "food addiction" and "not my choice" etc drives me nuts. Of course it's a choice whether you are addicted or not. And when she says that she can't stop eating food but a drug user can stop using drugs, I get so mad because with drugs and alcohol, your body becomes chemically dependant. With food, you just like how it tastes and how you feel. But you will not have seizures, be really sick, etc if you stop eating goddamn fast food. She has to choose to give up fast food and if she does that then I can start to take her seriously. But her spouting about addiction while actively using "her drug" is fcking ridiculous. A craving for food is not like a craving for a substance. And it is ALWAYS a choice, even when you make the poor one. Part of recovery is taking responsibility and accountability of your actions and how you got where you are. She will never do that. She will never cut out fast food. She will die an early death from grotesque morbid obesity

Edited to add: an alcoholic has to be around alcohol all the time but aren't allowed to have it. Holidays, parties, grocery stores, general society... Alcohol is everywhere. She's a self entitled dunce who is so used to being given everything she has no idea what it feels like to have to try and put in effort for anything.

If she really wanted to compare it to substance addiction, aside from withdrawal, the way she'd go about stopping her addiction isn't that different than the way a drug or alcohol addict has to quit their addiction. She's just not willing to go through the process, because it requires accountability. Hand over her income to peetz or a family member, have them present when purchasing gas and food, Don't go down the cheese aisle, just like someone has to delete their dealer connections details for real, for real (no writing it down before deleting it from the phone just in case). Commit to only eating foods from which no pleasure can be derived. If she's a true food addict, there's no allowance for the fact that food needs to be enjoyed. Just like someone who is used to going to concerts or parties (work, or bed) on drugs/alcohol. Nobody ever said "you're entitled to enjoy an altered state of mind, because life will suck with out it, just have a quarter bar, a half bump, half a shot, two drags, whatever" nobody says "you should be able to enjoy food, just in reason" to a true addict. If she hates PB and J, that's what she should be eating. Don't like broccoli or cabbage? Welcome to your new dinner. No more meals with peetz, no more border crossings for junk. No more stopping at the convenience store for a slim jim. Just like former addicts have to retrain their brains to find pleasure elsewhere and not attach [insert activity] with [insert substance]. No drug/alcohol addict expects it to be baby steps, or easy or enjoyable. So why should food be different? Does she think the constant nagging for a burger king is any different from a former addict's constant nagging for their drug of choice (post detox, of course)? Like food addiction is somehow special and more difficult.

Maybe I'm talking out of my ass because I've never had to go into recovery for food addiction, but I imagine if I was a food addict, I'd just make eating as utilitarian and UNpleasurable as possible, and have someone else control my money so I can't buy junk, nor can I restock if I ate everything in one day. It doesn't sound like rocket science, and it doesn't sound as difficult as quitting drugs or alcohol (though fatties moan that it's even more difficult). But Chantal (amber, fat amy, etc.) refuse anything too close to responsibility or accountability.

(I know the farms isn't a hugbox, but congrats on your sobriety)

 

[Dank Souls]

If she really wanted to compare it to substance addiction, aside from withdrawal, the way she'd go about stopping her addiction isn't that different than the way a drug or alcohol addict has to quit their addiction. She's just not willing to go through the process, because it requires accountability. Hand over her income to peetz or a family member, have them present when purchasing gas and food, Don't go down the cheese aisle, just like someone has to delete their dealer connections details for real, for real (no writing it down before deleting it from the phone just in case). Commit to only eating foods from which no pleasure can be derived. If she's a true food addict, there's no allowance for the fact that food needs to be enjoyed. Just like someone who is used to going to concerts or parties (work, or bed) on drugs/alcohol. Nobody ever said "you're entitled to enjoy an altered state of mind, because life will suck with out it, just have a quarter bar, a half bump, half a shot, two drags, whatever" nobody says "you should be able to enjoy food, just in reason" to a true addict. If she hates PB and J, that's what she should be eating. Don't like broccoli or cabbage? Welcome to your new dinner. No more meals with peetz, no more border crossings for junk. No more stopping at the convenience store for a slim jim. Just like former addicts have to retrain their brains to find pleasure elsewhere and not attach [insert activity] with [insert substance]. No drug/alcohol addict expects it to be baby steps, or easy or enjoyable. So why should food be different? Does she think the constant nagging for a burger king is any different from a former addict's constant nagging for their drug of choice (post detox, of course)? Like food addiction is somehow special and more difficult.

Maybe I'm talking out of my ass because I've never had to go into recovery for food addiction, but I imagine if I was a food addict, I'd just make eating as utilitarian and UNpleasurable as possible, and have someone else control my money so I can't buy junk, nor can I restock if I ate everything in one day. It doesn't sound like rocket science, and it doesn't sound as difficult as quitting drugs or alcohol (though fatties moan that it's even more difficult). But Chantal (amber, fat amy, etc.) refuse anything too close to responsibility or accountability.

(I know the farms isn't a hugbox, but congrats on your sobriety)

Exactly. And the same reason they all give as to why food addiction is harder to combat than drug addiction is that you need food to survive. No shit, dumbasses. You know what you don't need to survive, though? Arby's, McDonald's, BK and all the glorious fast food and cheese in the world. Eat healthy foods. Shit, go binge on broccoli if it fucking helps. And I remember Chinny saying how she went on a five day water fast and she seemed perfectly fine afterwards when she decided to binge on fast food to break that fast. So she's a liar and a dumbass. Great job.

 

[Strine]

This is the pot calling the kettle autistic, but prolonged discussion of her "food addiction" is kind of cluttering the thread for no reason. Mental disorders, to her, are exculpations. They "cause" her behaviour, even though they're diagnosed to describe behaviour. Next week she'll have a different one. It barely warrants comment at this point.

Still, her chimpout about food addiction was funny. She's really trying to catch a greased pig when it comes to asspat solicitation these days; everybody has been very inhospitable of her dumbfuckery for a couple of months now, coinciding with a hair trigger for her chimpouts because of peak frustration at having to deal with the consequences of her actions. Nobody is willing to accept that she isn't responsible for her own decisions, but that's the only narrative she will accept. Seeing her dog and pony shows about her self-diagnosis of the week can be exasperating, because she never learns, but that's just it: she never learns. You have to kind of disconnect and just watch the vitriol and gravy fly. It's like a huge, dry, angry stormcloud fulminating vicious lightning everywhere because of the catastrophic friction within it.

And when above the livid plain
Forked lightning plays, therein may dwell
The torments of a gastric vein,
The roar of Clotso bound for hell.

 

[clusterfuckk]

As others have pointed out, Chantel (like hamboat) has a fundamental issue with any authority (perceived or legitimate).

We have seen it with her diet, exercise and lifestyle recommendations she has received from doctors. She purposely defies them, and in some cases has vocalized her distorted thinking as to why ("it feels like punishment").

Another situation was that one outrageous tick on a live stream, I think. Where she says a whole sentence extremely quickly in a high pitch child's voice. Someone will be able to remember were it is, but she says somthing to the effect of "I'll do what I want you can't tell me what to do". But it was way creepier then that.

She's developmentally delayed in almost every way socially, and insane.

This is also commonly seen behavior in someone with borderline personality disorder. I am sure that is just one of the many mental problems she has but just pointing it out.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

You know what I just can't get over? Apparently a narc's brain works like this: Only absolutes. Either "all good" or "all bad". Narc cannot do anything wrong because they would be "all bad". Uses tactics such as blame and gaslighting to boost their ego, but if they had any self reflection/empathy, would realize these tactics make them objectively bad for being a piece of shit.

 

[interalia]

As others have pointed out, Chantel (like hamboat) has a fundamental issue with any authority (perceived or legitimate).

We have seen it with her diet, exercise and lifestyle recommendations she has received from doctors. She purposely defies them, and in some cases has vocalized her distorted thinking as to why ("it feels like punishment").

Classic daddy issues. This is also what underpins her (ugh) promiscuity and (assumed) infidelity.