Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Male Idiot]

It is in Czeczh land. V4 is hit, I repeat V4 is hit.

Some sauce from the pc:

Coronavirus: First Cases Confirmed in the Czech Republic

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Czech Republic reports first cases of coronavirus

The Czech Republic has confirmed its first three cases of coronavirus, with all the patients having traveled from northern Italy, Health Minister Adam Vojtech said on Sunday.

www.reuters.com

Czech Republic confirms country's first coronavirus case

www.jpost.com

 

[Drain Todger]

You're already infected. All of that was a waste.

See?

I’m prepared for that, too. Tylenol and Mucinex. Antipyretics and anti-congestants. Some people out there are actually trying to get their hands on chloroquine aquarium treatment. That’s not the best idea. Quinine (and synthetic quinine) can make you go deaf and/or blind. It has ototoxicity and retinal toxicity. Also, if you end up needing a ventilator and you pass out and go down, you can’t quite self-administer jack squat.

This is going to be a huge mess. Mark my words. The Dow Jones is going into freefall and it won’t even think of slowing down until it has lost more than 33% of its value. China isn’t shipping out any goods. Container ships are carrying 10% of their usual cargo. 760 million people are in varying degrees of lockdown in China, and factories aren’t producing anything. There are dozens of container ships off the coast of Singapore that aren’t carrying cargo, and Maersk has canceled like 40 sailings. Some project that $1.1 trillion is going to be wiped off the Gross World Product this year. This is already a big deal.

 

[byuu]

I'm surprised the preppers in this thread never picked up on the fact that nicotine is an ACE2 inhibitor.

It didn't help the Chinese and they smoke more than anyone.

 

[Underestimated Nutria]

My blood pressure has always been on the high side anyway, so I've started taking candesartan (an ACE2 inhibitor) for coronavirus prophylaxis. There's good reason to believe it will be somewhat effective, maybe more than that (I am an optimist) but it's all speculation, albeit well informed. Thoughts, @Otterly ? and should I switch to something else? I chose candesartan for no reason other than it was handy.

I mentioned ACE2 inhibitors before but was pretty much ignored

 

[No_one]

fuck im going to Polen in april. i hope it stays away from there.

It won't. The virus is here, but there are no confirmed cases at the moment. Partially because the health system is on a third world level (the first cases had their samples sent to Berlin, right now they are being sent to Warsaw, also the places that should be checking the corona related stuff really take their time - they don't care, the wages there are laughable anyway.) The major cities probably have carriers for some time, the only thing one could do was to instruct their friends and family to stock up on food and wash hands, which apparently is not as prevalent as it should be, regarding the older generations. Anyway, enjoy your stay.

EDIT: The government has just put forth the coronavirus law which will probably be passed by the parliament very quickly.
Main points:
- if you work, you can work from home if it is possible (and get paid)
-if you have kids, you can get govt support for payments for schools/preschools/nurseries if they are closed (apart from the public institutions, as they are free)
- people can be obligatorily hospitalized if they show the symptoms, and healthy people who had contact with the sick should be quarantined for 21 days
- schools and universities can be closed in the whole country or part of it.

A month too late, but nevertheless a step in the right direction.

 

[Drain Todger]

My blood pressure has always been on the high side anyway, so I've started taking candesartan (an ACE2 inhibitor) for coronavirus prophylaxis. There's good reason to believe it will be somewhat effective, maybe more than that (I am an optimist) but it's all speculation, albeit well informed. Thoughts, @Otterly ? and should I switch to something else? I chose candesartan for no reason other than it was handy.

I mentioned ACE2 inhibitors before but was pretty much ignored

My analysis indicated that ARBs like Telmisartan, Losartan, and, yes, probably Candesartan as well, might help block the virus from binding with ACE2. I mentioned angiotensin blockers on one forum like a month ago when I heard that the virus latched onto ACE2.

If you have Remdesivir and/or Chloroquine to halt viral replication, CytoSorb to deal with cytokine storms and rhabdo from your heart breaking down, and Losartan or Telmisartan, you might be able to treat somebody who has this shit quite effectively.

SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 do not just bind to ACE2. They dysregulate angiotensin and create inflammation by confusing the body’s angiotensin-renin system. They can also cause cytokine storms by T-helper over-activation. Oh, and in-vitro, they have antibody-dependent enhancement like Dengue, which may explain the reports of people getting “reinfected”; their antibodies aren’t doing their job.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I’m prepared for that, too. Tylenol and Mucinex. Antipyretics and anti-congestants. Some people out there are actually trying to get their hands on chloroquine aquarium treatment. That’s not the best idea. Quinine (and synthetic quinine) can make you go deaf and/or blind. It has ototoxicity and retinal toxicity. Also, if you end up needing a ventilator and you pass out and go down, you can’t quite self-administer jack squat.

This is going to be a huge mess. Mark my words. The Dow Jones is going into freefall and it won’t even think of slowing down until it has lost more than 33% of its value. China isn’t shipping out any goods. Container ships are carrying 10% of their usual cargo. 760 million people are in varying degrees of lockdown in China, and factories aren’t producing anything. There are dozens of container ships off the coast of Singapore that aren’t carrying cargo, and Maersk has canceled like 40 sailings. Some project that $1.1 trillion is going to be wiped off the Gross World Product this year. This is already a big deal.

I hate to burst your LARP bubble but we aren't at DEFCON 1 yet, even 9/11 rated only DEFCON 3. This is more like the Y2K hysteria on 12/31/99 when I saw Nigerian church ladies fighting over water at Pathmark which was almost destroyed by everyone buying everything in sight.

 

[Drain Todger]

I hate to burst your LARP bubble but we aren't at DEFCON 1 yet, even 9/11 rated only DEFCON 3. This is more like the Y2K hysteria on 12/31/99 when I saw Nigerian church ladies fighting over water at Pathmark which was almost destroyed by everyone buying everything in sight.

I live in the Pacific Northwest and I work in public transportation. I have a valid reason to be freaked out.

 

[Male Idiot]

Time to shill:

Ages ago in the Soviet era, a Doctor by the name of Beres made a new immuno booster supplement that contains zink, which he used on his cancer patients to help them recover.

Béres Drops Extra - Béres Drops - Products - Béres

www.beres-international.com

It is something that is universally acclaimed and recommended here as an immuno booster. Any zink supplement should help.

A trace element preparation containing zinc increases the production of interleukin-6 in human monocytes and glial cells. - PubMed - NCBI

Zinc in Human Health: Effect of Zinc on Immune Cells

Zinc for a Strong Immune System

Zinc is a mineral that helps keep the immune system strong and is often used to help battle the common cold. WebMD looks at zinc's other benefits and tells you about possible side effects.

www.webmd.com

The Advocate

The Advocate is a lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) monthly newsmagazine. Established in 1967, it is the oldest continuing LGBT publication in the United States.

books.google.hu

Zinc 'keeps immune system in check'

Researchers say they have gained a key insight into how zinc helps the immune system fight infection.

www.bbc.com

Apparently Dr Beres's invention also helps homos get over their butt-gotten AIDS since it is partly an immune disorder too. While the rest of the drops mineral compounds are of dubious benefit or placebo, the zinc is proven to help the immune system. So any zinc supplement maybe helpful.

 

[Jump]

These people in Iran are fucked, and as in the case of China, we aren't going to know the true number of infected.

There are different levels of fucked. China can at least manufacture supplies and drugs. They can control large chunks of their population's movements.
Iran is next level fucked. If anything comes out of this I think it maybe the collapse of the government there. They where already on shaky ground.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

If I wanted rampant spergery and insanity I would still be browsing 4 chan.

Cool it with the pepper tism. This is coming from someone with a modest amount of ammo, canned goods, and cbrn gear. You NEETs are going to end up like Y2K preppers sitting on oil drums and bunkers but absolutely bankrupt.

 

[JosephStalin]

Reporting today from the Mid Atlantic region of the United States, just South of the Mason-Dixon line. Costco seems to be slammed with spergs, but this appears to be a regular Sunday at the Costco. No extra spergery, all pretty normal.

With the occasional every fucking customer talking the long way around the coughing Asian person.

Yeah, just did a recon at the local Costco and our commissary, coastal central CA. These are the places where I do nearly all my grocery shopping.

Parking lot was very full at Costco but little trouble finding a space. No line to get in but place was very busy. We were given disinfectant wipes for the handle of our carts. Many people had water, toilet paper, or both, but saw very few with large quantities of either. Went back to the water. Still a good supply. Lines long but pretty fast-moving. Would also say a typical Sunday at Costco. I usually go during the week.

Then I went to the commissary. Lot was busier than usual, but then again, I go on Saturday morning. No line to get in, just walked in and showed ID. Saw people with some water and toilet paper but nothing out of the ordinary. Good supplies of bottled water, in various sizes. As usual on a Sunday, some items were sold out, but don't believe they stock shelves on a Saturday night. There was some stocking being done while I wandered through the commissary. Checkout lines longer than usual, but then again, it's Sunday.

So I would say things looked pretty normal.



And now it's time for Uncle Joe's daily "RELAX". RELAX. Keep using common sense, keep staying prudent about where you go, keep covering sneezes and washing hands, keep staying hydrated. I look for no more from anyone else than I do myself, and compared to most KFers I am at a much higher risk (age, health history) of catching the virus. Not sweating it. Neither should you. Got it?

 

[Sissy Galvez]

I live in the Pacific Northwest and I work in public transportation. I have a valid reason to be freaked out.

Public transportation is the last place I would be in the PNW. I would pay out the ass for parking or just stay home if I relied on that.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

My analysis indicated that ARBs like Telmisartan, Losartan, and, yes, probably Candesartan as well, might help block the virus from binding with ACE2. I mentioned angiotensin blockers on one forum like a month ago when I heard that the virus latched onto ACE2.

If you have Remdesivir and/or Chloroquine to halt viral replication, CytoSorb to deal with cytokine storms and rhabdo from your heart breaking down, and Losartan or Telmisartan, you might be able to treat somebody who has this shit quite effectively.

SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 do not just bind to ACE2. They dysregulate angiotensin and create inflammation by confusing the body’s angiotensin-renin system. They can also cause cytokine storms by T-helper over-activation. Oh, and in-vitro, they have antibody-dependent enhancement like Dengue, which may explain the reports of people getting “reinfected”; their antibodies aren’t doing their job.

Lol, how shitty is your immune system? I think I'd rather deal with the coronavirus untreated rather than the shitload of side-effects from taking all that.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I live in the Pacific Northwest and I work in public transportation. I have a valid reason to be freaked out.

Well I live in the biggest fucking city in the USA full of Chinks going back and forth from China not to mention sandniggers, Africans, Latin America Euros, especially wops that go back to get in touch with their spaghetti and the Irish who go back God only knows why and come back here. Coronavirus has been in NYC at least since December, I'm probably infected and there ain't shit anyone can do about it. If I'm feeling very sick I'll go to the hospital but I feel fine atm and I'm just chilling.

Speaking of wops my neighbor from Rome who works as a nurse at Bellevue saw me on the train last night and before I could say anything he hugged me and plant a big wet kiss on my cheek. I'm not going to freak out and start dosing myself with meds on the recommendation of some rando autist on the internet because Italian. There's being smart and stocking up on things that might be hard to get in the future and then there's being a crazy doomer.

 

[Drain Todger]

Public transportation is the last place I would be in the PNW. I would pay out the ass for parking or just stay home if I relied on that.

I didn’t say I used public transportation. I said I work in public transportation. As in, public transportation is my job. Literally the worst job to have in a pandemic.

Oh gee, oh look. A city full of screaming people and carrion birds. That’s totally not scary or anything.

 

[Innominandum]

You have absolutely no idea what is happening here, do you?

I don't know about you guys but I'm downloading the hell out of this. Considering that its proly only a matter of time till this gets taken down for one reason or the other.

 

[TheRedChair]

Washing your clothes would not only kill but remove the virus off clothes. Washing hands removes the oils off your hands which can carry pathogens and it goes down the drain works the same way with clothes.

We been saying this for fucking weeks on what to do. Separate your outside clothe for going to work and such and your inside clothes and wash them regularly but separately. The germs and virus will go down the drain and anything that might be left will be killed by the dryer in hot mode.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

People

The public aren't really behaving any differently which is kind of good and bad. Good, since they aren't panicking as people here are particularly stupid and useless when the heat is turned up; bad, since among them, the unhygienic section of the Asian population are still sneezing, coughing, busting ass, and picking at things. Of course with no regard to those around them. Among the greater Asian population, a lot are wearing facemasks. Problem is they're the one you could pick up in an Asian convenience store. They haven't gotten the message and I'm not going to bother telling them.

I went to the store last night and this one Asian was looking at the frozen meat. He coughed right near the direction of the food. We went far to the other side of the guy and avoided the meat.

 

[spiritofamermaid]

Shit might be getting real. Just a rumor, but that they're even putting this out there...

Spoiler: Shut it down?

New York Stock Exchange considers shutting trading floor amid coronavirus fears as Wall Street firms tell workers to prepare to work from home

Spoiler: Shut it down?

• The New York Stock Exchange is considering closing its trading floor amid concerns the conoravirus outbreak will spread into a wider pandemic
• Wall Street firms already have started restricting travel and advising workers they may have to work from home
• Most trading is done electronically and few traders actually still report to the trading floor, which is closed and will not reopen until Monday

The New York Stock Exchange is considering shutting its trading floor amid panic the spread of coronavirus could lead to a global economic disaster.
'NYSE preparing for possibility floor can't open amid panic,' Fox News reporter Charles Gasparino tweeted just before the markets closed on Friday.
Wall Street firms are also restricting travel and telling employees they may have to work from home, Gaparino said.

 <img id="i-36e2cd4e20380f81" src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/28/22/25340224-8058017-image-a-6_1582930504635.jpg" height="262" width="634" alt="Fox News reporter Charles Gasparino tweeted about the possible closure of the trading floor just before markets closed on Friday" class="blkBorder img-share" /> 

Fox News reporter Charles Gasparino tweeted about the possible closure of the trading floor just before markets closed on Friday

 <img id="i-ba45134e799fcd4b" src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/28/22/25340156-8058017-image-a-1_1582930267158.jpg" height="423" width="634" alt="The New York Stock Exchange is preparing for the chance that it may have to shut its trading floor amid a panic the coronavirus could spread into a wider pandemic. The exterior of the exchange is pictured on Manhattan's Wall Street Friday" class="blkBorder img-share" /> <span class="fr-marker" style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-type="true" data-id="0"></span><span class="fr-marker" style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-type="false" data-id="0"></span>
The New York Stock Exchange is preparing for the chance that it may have to shut its trading floor amid a panic the coronavirus could spread into a wider pandemic. The exterior of the exchange is pictured on Manhattan's Wall Street Friday

 <img id="i-42f310f8913bdd30" src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/28/22/25340138-8058017-image-a-3_1582930280178.jpg" height="424" width="634" alt="The exchange is considering its options as worries over the virus becoming a pandemic could lead to a financial economic disaster. Traders are pictured during the opening bell" class="blkBorder img-share" /> <span class="fr-marker" style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-type="true" data-id="0"></span><span class="fr-marker" style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-type="false" data-id="0"></span>
The exchange is considering its options as worries over the virus becoming a pandemic could lead to a financial economic disaster. Traders are pictured during the opening bell

 <img id="i-541a88e53d863f62" src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/28/23/25340140-8058017-image-a-15_1582932415395.jpg" height="424" width="634" alt="Traders are pictured on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, which is now closed and is not expected to reopen until Monday" class="blkBorder img-share" /> <span class="fr-marker" style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-type="true" data-id="0"></span><span class="fr-marker" style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-type="false" data-id="0"></span>
Traders are pictured on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, which is now closed and is not expected to reopen until Monday

 <img id="i-75b615f8c03e8d82" src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/28/22/25340154-8058017-image-a-4_1582930298705.jpg" height="423" width="634" alt="A tourist is spotted wearing a anti-viral mask outside the New York Stock Exchange. Wall Street firms have begun restricting travel and telling employees they may have to work from home" class="blkBorder img-share" /> 

A tourist is spotted wearing a anti-viral mask outside the New York Stock Exchange. Wall Street firms have begun restricting travel and telling employees they may have to work from home
A spokesperson confirmed to DailyMail.com that 'NYSE is carefully monitoring the spread of COVID-19 and has robust contingency plans, tested regularly, to enable continuous operation of the NYSE exchanges should any facilities be impacted.'

 <img id="i-37e1e680b9972f2a" src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/29/00/25342396-8058017-image-a-4_1582934995748.jpg" height="137" width="306" alt="" class="blkBorder img-share" /> <span class="fr-marker" style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-type="true" data-id="0"></span><span class="fr-marker" style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-type="false" data-id="0"></span>

The exchange floor was shut down after markets closed Friday, and was not expected to reopen until Monday.

US stock indexes fell sharply again on Friday as the rapidly spreading coronavirus outbreak raised the alarm for a possible global recession.
The Dow Jones Industrial average was down 357 points at the closing bell, or 1.4 percent, marking seven straight days of losses and the biggest weekly drop since the 2008 global financial crisis

 <img id="i-e0aa53d05bc9a922" src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/28/23/25340148-8058017-image-a-7_1582931303625.jpg" height="423" width="634" alt="A board from the trading floor of the New York Stock Exchange on Friday. US stock indexes fell sharply again as the rapidly spreading coronavirus outbreak raised the alarm for a possible global recession" class="blkBorder img-share" /> <span class="fr-marker" style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-type="true" data-id="0"></span><span class="fr-marker" style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-type="false" data-id="0"></span>

A board from the trading floor of the New York Stock Exchange on Friday. US stock indexes fell sharply again as the rapidly spreading coronavirus outbreak raised the alarm for a possible global recession.

 <img id="i-42c45bc48283f40f" src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/28/23/25340220-8058017-image-a-8_1582932358672.jpg" height="524" width="634" alt="The Dow Jones Industrial average was down 357 points at the closing bell, or 1.4 percent, marking seven straight days of losses and the biggest weekly drop since the 2008 global financial crisis" class="blkBorder img-share" /> 

The Dow Jones Industrial average was down 357 points at the closing bell, or 1.4 percent, marking seven straight days of losses and the biggest weekly drop since the 2008 global financial crisis

 <img id="i-7d79e03608a51733" src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/29/00/25342458-8058017-image-a-1_1582934960487.jpg" height="634" width="634" alt="" class="blkBorder img-share" /> 

Investors are reeling after virus fears wiped nearly $3 trillion off the combined market value of S&P 500 companies this week, with the index confirming its fastest correction in history in volatile trading on Thursday.
Globally, some $6 trillion, or about 10 percent, has been erased from stock values as markets in Asia and Europe plunged on fears that the outbreak will shrivel corporate profits there. At their heart, stock prices are determined by expectations of a company's future profits.
Even as the outbreak eases in China, investors have been rattled by the rapid spread of the disease in other countries, which now account for about three-quarters of new infections.

Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell indicated the central bank was prepared to cut interest rates as necessary to help cushion the economy against the effects of the spreading virus.
'The fundamentals of the US economy remain strong,' he said in a statement released on Friday. 'However, the coronavirus poses evolving risks to economic activity.'
'The Federal Reserve is closely monitoring developments and their implications for the economic outlook,' he said. 'We will use our tools and act as appropriate to support the economy.'

Do you think that this article is doing the same that the Chinese were - releasing info to see the public's reaction, and if the reaction isn't the desired one then walk back the article?

Or is the article just plain old fear-mongering?