2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Just watched a debate entirely, the South Carolina one. I skipped all of them until now.

How can Bloomberg be so bad at speaking ? He's a billionaire, the mayor of one the biggest city in the world and he just... sucks. How can you be so rich and powerful, and so lame at the same time ? I'm right and I can't stand him, can't imagine how leftist want to see him out.

On the other hand, Buttgieg is surprising. I know he's dropping out, but he did well. Good speaker, good arguments, pretty good at rhetoric, clearly an intelligent guy... He did a big number on the old ass he had in front of him. Experience matters, but age isn't the only factor to it and he proved that tenfold. I'm sure he has a bright future ahead him if he doesn't do any big mistakes.

I'm not from the US and I was quite surprised at how racial issues were tackled. You had a black interviewer, who asked what those candidates would do for black people. Wtf ? That racialist shit wouldn't fly out in my country, regardless of who it's supposed to give advantage to. I get that black people have it hard in the US, but helping them out based on their color isn't the solution.
 
First time I have seen people react negative strongly to you
Tulsi Gabbard and I'm sure another 20 people or so in the back of the Clown Car certainly "count", but I'm just going by the "DNC will even let them on the damned stage" metric, which now that Pete has dropped out, have become a Life Alert infomercia-- Oh fuck, I completely fucking forgot that Klob was even still running.

I can't ever remember her because outside of the debates she never shows up anywhere. I never see her in shitposts, I never see people backing her on Twitter, I never hear her crying hysterically in commercials, I just routinely forget that she even fucking exists.
 
I'm not from the US and I was quite surprised at how racial issues were tackled. You had a black interviewer, who asked what those candidates would do for black people. Wtf ? That racialist shit wouldn't fly out in my country, regardless of who it's supposed to give advantage to. I get that black people have it hard in the US, but helping them out based on their color isn't the solution.

Identity politics or tribalism or vote bank blocs or whatever I guess you can call them. If all these racial problems got solved, all those activist groups like BLM or special interests like the SPLC or ADL would no longer have a reason to exist. So they keep on race baiting and lobby politicians as well as the parties themselves and Big Media wanting to keep these issues alive as a wedge. Its fully popular in the Anglo-American world, this racial baiting shit, you see this in America, Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. And they are hard at work trying to bring these issues into your country as well so watch out.
 
Just watched a debate entirely, the South Carolina one. I skipped all of them until now.

How can Bloomberg be so bad at speaking ? He's a billionaire, the mayor of one the biggest city in the world and he just... sucks. How can you be so rich and powerful, and so lame at the same time ? I'm right and I can't stand him, can't imagine how leftist want to see him out.

On the other hand, Buttgieg is surprising. I know he's dropping out, but he did well. Good speaker, good arguments, pretty good at rhetoric, clearly an intelligent guy... He did a big number on the old ass he had in front of him. Experience matters, but age isn't the only factor to it and he proved that tenfold. I'm sure he has a bright future ahead him if he doesn't do any big mistakes.

I'm not from the US and I was quite surprised at how racial issues were tackled. You had a black interviewer, who asked what those candidates would do for black people. Wtf ? That racialist shit wouldn't fly out in my country, regardless of who it's supposed to give advantage to. I get that black people have it hard in the US, but helping them out based on their color isn't the solution.


Blacks don’t have it hard, ghetto rats have it hard, and a lot of it is because they think they should be helped solely because they are black.
 
Klobuchar cancels Minnesota rally after protesters storm event, outraged over her prosecutorial record

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Klobuchar cancels Minnesota rally after protesters storm event, outraged over her prosecutorial record
By Allyson Chiu
March 2, 2020 at 4:04 a.m. EST

Sen. Amy Klobuchar canceled a campaign rally in her home state of Minnesota Sunday night after dozens of protesters occupied the stage for more than an hour, demanding that the Democratic presidential candidate drop out of the race over her past involvement in a controversial murder conviction of a black teenager.

The rally, scheduled to take place at 8 p.m. local time in St. Louis Park, was derailed when protesters affiliated with Black Lives Matter, the Minneapolis NAACP and other civil rights organizations stormed the event, as seen in videos uploaded to social media. Toting signs and banners, the activists chanted “Klobuchar has got to go” and “Free Myon,” in reference to Myon Burrell, who was sentenced to life in prison following the 2002 shooting death of an 11-year-old girl.

A campaign spokesperson told reporters that the rally was eventually canceled after the protesters, who wanted Klobuchar to acknowledge Burrell in her Sunday remarks, refused to leave the stage despite the senator offering to meet with them, according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

“The campaign offered a meeting with the senator if they would leave the stage after being onstage for more than an hour,” the spokesperson said. “After the group initially agreed, they backed out of the agreement, and we are canceling the event.”

Questions over Klobuchar’s prosecutorial record, namely her handling of the Burrell case when she was the top attorney in Hennepin County, have dogged the senator since she announced her presidential bid last year. Klobuchar also has faced criticism for declining to prosecute cases involving police accused of using excessive force against black suspects, The Washington Post’s Elise Viebeck and Michelle Ye Hee Lee reported.

Burrell was 16 years old when he was first convicted in the death of Tyesha Edwards, who was hit by a stray bullet while doing homework at her dining room table. That conviction was overturned by the Minnesota Supreme Court, but Burrell was found guilty again following a second trial in 2008 that came after Klobuchar had left the prosecutor’s office. Burrell, his family and activists maintain that he was wrongfully convicted, accusations that have only increased in recent weeks following an Associated Press report that revealed a number of flaws and inconsistencies in the initial police investigation.

In the aftermath of the AP’s probe, Klobuchar has repeatedly called for the case to be reviewed. Activists, however, say that isn’t enough.

“Amy Klobuchar has the power and the influence — if she wanted to actually help us to free him she could, and she doesn’t want to,” Leslie Redmond, president of the Minneapolis NAACP, told USA Today. “This is a tale of two cities. There’s a real distinction between how we see Amy Klobuchar, and it’s because she keeps hiding behind her progressive background or values, but she’s actually not as progressive as she comes across.”

The outrage over Klobuchar’s prosecutorial record was on full display at the Sunday rally in suburban Minneapolis ahead of Super Tuesday — when 15 states, including Minnesota, and one territory will hold their Democratic presidential primaries.

Videos of the event showed tense scenes as the protesters onstage faced off against hundreds of Klobuchar supporters who had gathered inside the gymnasium at St. Louis Park High School to hear the senator speak.

“Black lives matter!” the protesters shouted while people in the audience could be seen waving “Amy for America” signs and chanting, “Amy! Amy!”

An announcement came over the gym’s loudspeaker about 40 minutes after the rally was supposed to begin that elicited cheers from the protesters and scattered boos from the crowd.

“Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for coming tonight and for your patience,” the announcer said. “We’re sorry to say that tonight’s event has been canceled. We are sorry for any inconvenience. Please remember to vote on Tuesday.”

Justin Buoen, Klobuchar’s campaign manager, said he was “disappointed” by the cancellation, according to a transcript of his remarks to reporters at the rally emailed to The Post.

Buoen said the campaign had arranged for the activists to meet with Klobuchar on-site.

“She was in the room ready to meet with them, and then they changed the terms and decided that they didn’t want to meet with her,” he said. “Really wish we would have been able to, one, do the meeting, and listen to the protesters but also have the event.”

But the protest’s organizers pushed back against the campaign’s version of events.

Nekima Levy Armstrong, a civil rights lawyer and Black Lives Matter activist, tweeted that protesters “did not back out of a deal to meet with the Senator.”

“We thought that Amy Klobuchar speaking about Myon’s case with Myon’s family onstage was a reasonable request and a good way to let attendees know why we were there,” Armstrong wrote in a follow-up tweet. “Instead of responding to this request, Amy’s team decided to cancel the event. We didn’t know until media told us.”

Redmond told the St. Paul Pioneer Press that it was never the protesters’ goal to shut down the rally.

“We’re disappointed too,” Redmond said.

Klobuchar has struggled to attract voters of color since her third-place finish in New Hampshire last month, The Post’s Amber Phillips reported. The candidate recently came in at a distant sixth place during the South Carolina Democratic presidential primary, garnering just over 3 percent of the votes. According to exit polls, Klobuchar won 0 percent of the black vote in South Carolina.

BLM claims another campaign rally. So far, they have a better track record against Democratic candidates than against racism.

Remember when Trump was TEH EVIL DICTATOR for throwing out protestors? I'm sure negotiating and failing looks so much better.

“The campaign offered a meeting with the senator if they would leave the stage after being onstage for more than an hour,” the spokesperson said. “After the group initially agreed, they backed out of the agreement, and we are canceling the event.”

Sounds like the strong and independent whamman we need to lead our country through tough negotiations. :story:
 
So Buttiegig and Sawyer both dropped out at the same time.

Wonder what backroom deal they got?
Steyer was running a vanity campaign from the start and SC was his put-up-or-shut-up moment, just like Biden. Except in his case, the demo he had to prove he won with was the #resist boomers he spammed pro-impeachment ads at to get in the debates initially. When even they ultimately voted elsewhere, it's time to close up shop.
Buttigieg I can believe took a backroom deal for kickbacks come convention time. He's got enough of that "social climber over all else" stink about him.
 
Blacks don’t have it hard, ghetto rats have it hard, and a lot of it is because they think they should be helped solely because they are black.

I don't buy it that much. If you look at the US, pre-JFK, they had it rough, it's hard to deny. Some situations are still ongoing today especially if you go out of big cities. Black people might have the same rights now, but they don't have the same chances. You don't erase racism and stuff like that in some years, it takes way more time. The climate might be better for them now because the mainstream medias are full of progressive nazi, but there's still a stigma of being black in the US. It's way harder to succeed if you're black and I don't buy that black people are less smart or harder to educate than white. The fact that it's harder for them comes from somewhere and it's not an IQ problems.

That fucked up hip-hop/baskeball culture doesn't help neither and it's prevalent in Black communities... Black don't have much people to look up to nowadays and that might also be part of a problem. When your role models are Lebron James and Beyonce, you're fucked.
 
The fact that it's harder for them comes from somewhere and it's not an IQ problems.

That fucked up hip-hop/baskeball culture doesn't help neither and it's prevalent in Black communities...

QED. Take blacks away from "black culture" and they succeed just like their white counterparts. Go look up the stories of the successful blacks in government: Obama, Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Eric Holder, etc. Some start out poor, but none buy into modern black culture.

It's funny in the context of the question constantly being asked, "which Democratic candidate can get the most black votes?" Democrats used to actually talk about the source of problems in the black community. Rap and street culture used to be regularly called out in the late 80s-early 90s... before they turned into successful commercial money-makers.

Now Democrats don't even try to address those problems any more. Everything is comprehensively blamed on some invisible racism. Nobody "wins" the black vote today, they just lose it by having some minor scandal attached to their past, and that scandal usually involves a legal crackdown or prosecution that affected a black person.

Joe Biden, the honkiest cracker left on the debate stage (and that takes some doing), just "won the black vote" in South Carolina by not doing anything. He stood next to a black dude in the White House for a few years then went senile. That's it.

Nobody on the Democratic side bothers pretending to solve systemic problems in the black community any more; they just want to touch up the symptoms a bit. And nobody in the blacks' voting bloc is holding them accountable, they're just staging stunts that make them feel good, like disrupting Klobuchar's rally or turning their back on Bloomberg in church.
 
I don't buy it that much. If you look at the US, pre-JFK, they had it rough, it's hard to deny. Some situations are still ongoing today especially if you go out of big cities. Black people might have the same rights now, but they don't have the same chances. You don't erase racism and stuff like that in some years, it takes way more time. The climate might be better for them now because the mainstream medias are full of progressive nazi, but there's still a stigma of being black in the US. It's way harder to succeed if you're black and I don't buy that black people are less smart or harder to educate than white. The fact that it's harder for them comes from somewhere and it's not an IQ problems.

That fucked up hip-hop/baskeball culture doesn't help neither and it's prevalent in Black communities... Black don't have much people to look up to nowadays and that might also be part of a problem. When your role models are Lebron James and Beyonce, you're fucked.

My dad was black, and I live in flyover country. Aside from a few dipshits here and there, white people generally don't give a fuck. Have I experienced racism from white people? Sure, but mostly it's the unintentional old people kind or if it is genuine, it tends to come from Pollocks and Ukrainians. I have experienced far more racism from my mom's side (American Indians) than from whites, because Indians aren't scared to death of being called racist. I've also been shit on by some other black folk for being too 'white' for having interests in things like Tolkien, Eartsea, Star Wars and such. People like to say that the Democrats keep blacks on an ideological plantation, but they are wrong; it is other blacks.
 
So five left now...
Tulsi is gone after tomorrow and the DNC has her blacklisted on orders of HRC anyway.
The DNC is doubtless working hard on Bloomberg to get him to fuck off so Biden can have all those wine mom and suburban bugmen "centrist" voters to himself.
Warren of course exists solely to split the Bernie vote.
Biden will either eke out a win or there will be a brokered convention.
Either way Bernie will get cucked again.
 
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Kinda but it would make sense if he wasn't. There's no way you can be 78 and still think socialism or communism works.
There's a neighborhood on the east side of Cleveland that used to be a big hippie area and still has some hippy/hipster/artsy presence. Until 2017 there was a bookstore run by communists that put up fliers everywhere for the Revolutionary Communist Party of America. There was also some 60-70 something woman that would sometimes show up with a sign and communist publications on the street. Before the bookstore shut down it was plastered with Orange Reich fearmongering
 
Honestly I will be kinda dissappointed if Sanders gets jewwed out of the nomination

Sure.....a biden nomination would be the most hilarious shit imaginable after all the shit we have seen thus far and how much shit Trump has been hoarding away to throw at him come election time, but Uncle Boiney versus Plod Turd Man would be the kind of epic contest of populist vs populist with the corresponding clashes of autist mob vs autist mob that would probably go down in history as a defining moment of the era.

Its like if instead of Alien vs Predator we got Alien vs Neelix
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Sure the absolute carnage of the latter would be fucking hilarious, but i cant help but think we would be missing a far greater show
 
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