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TGWTG"Nostalgia Critic" / Doug Walker, Rob Walker, Mike Michaud, Mike Ellis, Holly Christine Brown, et al - The Incompetent Predator-Protecting Upper Management of Channel Awesome, Doug Still Not That Funny
⦁ Gimmick this year is Spider-Month. He does a shitty recreation of the 60's cartoon color with a song as good as you'd expect. He also wears one of the costumes with fake padded muscles.
⦁ Makes a Spider-Pig reference, what a hack.
⦁ Opens with a skit with Tamara as the fan girl and Malcolm as the bodyguard. It's about how people think the Raimi movies are bad now but used to like them. These two characters interrupt a total of seven times throughout the video.
⦁ "Am I really gonna end up defending these movies?"
⦁ Calls it the Norman Rockwell of Superhero film series.
⦁ Basic footage of the trailer/light history of the film segment. Very minimal context, there's an unfunny James Cameron/Alita joke in there.
⦁ "It's like a POV cam of when I was in high school." No Doug, Tobey Maguire had a full head of hair in those shots.
⦁ "How come I never see Willem Defoe and Christopher Walken in the same place!?"
⦁ Reused footage from his Pinky & The Brain bit.
⦁ As Uncle Ben, "I don't have a hope of surviving this movie, do I?" Doug you fucking clown.
⦁ Puberty/masturbation "hairy palms"/perving on MJ through his window jokes.
⦁ Bitching about the effects, pulls out the Two Towers example as he likes. (He complains about the effects a total of 6 times in the review, and brings up Two Towers twice.)
⦁ Prequel "sand" joke. (he makes three more prequel jokes/references including "Are you an angel?")
⦁ "Randomness like this had to be planned" in reference to the cameos in the wrestling scene. It's a movie you pud.
⦁ "Snap into a Slim Jim" joke.
⦁ They're doing Twitch now? I missed this.
⦁ Calls him "J. Jonas Jameson"
⦁ Bad J.K. Simmons impression.
⦁ Complaining about the Goblin suit.
⦁ Restrains his first Power Rangers joke for about halfway through the run-time.
⦁ He just can't let go that this was rated PG-13 (about five of these jokes in total).
⦁ Doug can't pronounce "pendulum" (says pen-dull-um)
⦁ The scene of Osborn talking to the mask is "weirder than David Lynch interviewing a monkey".
⦁ Hated this movie when it came out because he was "waiting for a film like The Dark Knight to come out and take comic books more seriously". Fucking pathetic.
⦁ His final monologue is generic WatchMojo Top 10 bullshit.
And here's Doug looking like he has Cerebral Palsy.
Seems to go for real low hanging fruit, does he? Also, does Doug hate silly since he was waiting for something like The Dark Knight? Was he one of those who thought DC had a “no jokes policy” back in 2013-2016? Also also, nothing will ever be as bad as The Wall since that was Doug being completely out of his wheelhouse with an extra helping of hate because of what he was covering.
Their Twitch channel showed up in my recommended feed and I legit did a double take. Curiosity got the better of me and I clicked it. I ended up catching Malcolm playing CTR with viewers. From what little I saw, Malcolm seemed to be enjoying himself, so it didn't really reek of "Michaud's making us do this". Can't speak for the others, though. I'd hate to imagine how well a Doug/Rob stream would go.
I think someone earlier in this thread or some other CA thread said that the rest of the CA crew sticks around and makes shows to give the impression that CA hasn’t been decimated and relying on one stale act to keep from sinking into obscurity. I don’t know when Twitch was at the height of its popularity, but Channel Awesome is trying its hand to show they’re still somewhat relevant in the grand scheme of things.
He's repeated the same complaints as in his Old vs New and Dumbest Spiderman Moments, he never learns. It's hilarious he's trying to claim innocence now and how "the Raimi movies aren't that bad guys" when he's the one that started the hate train on them back in the day.
Also, lol, why does he want so desperately Spiderman to be dark and dramatic? Coming from the same turd that loves the MCU and its shitty jokes.
Does anyone even legit hate the Raimi movies today?? I'm genuinely curious. It was my understanding that the movies, while aging awkwardly in terms of how goofy and campy they are, are generally considered to be beloved by the masses. Even the third film has gained a cult following for its sheer meme potential.
I've never met a single soul that didn't like the Raimi films. Doug sounds like he's defending the film to an audience that doesn't exist.
Does anyone even legit hate the Raimi movies today?? I'm genuinely curious. It was my understanding that the movies, while aging awkwardly in terms of how goofy and campy they are, are generally considered to be beloved by the masses. Even the third film has gained a cult following for its sheer meme potential.
I've never met a single soul that didn't like the Raimi films. Doug sounds like he's defending the film to an audience that doesn't exist.
I also really miss Jillian, that break up has always bummed me out, but what's weird is wasn't she still voicing a character in his Lloyd cartoon as recently as 2017? But correct me if I'm wrong she has no online presence now?
She was in Shot on Shitteo as well. They "separated" back in 2012 but didn't officially divorce until sometime after that. However lots of people mention and I agree that afterward he was harsher towards her opinions in reviews and they seemed very awkward together. I'm not sure if they hate each other now or what but she slipped away for the most part in the mid-2010s.
If you have watched Brad as long as it sounds then you probably have a pretty good idea of his taste in women and why his current wife seems pretty ideal for him even if she doesn't bring much to his reviews. Jillian seems to have lowkey femdom vibes and clearly likes thinking of herself as an Elvira type. It's been said (no idea of the truth) that she dated women after the breakup and that doesn't surprise me. Stuff like that is why it probably wasn't hard to talk her into doing nudity for that one movie, or the one show where she reviewed Skinemax stuff with the same energy as a JOI video on pornhub. She was clearly always a bit ambitious and wanted to be visible.
So around the time when Pop Quiz Hotshot was in the making of, I remember hearing this tidbit of information go around of what got Jillian and Brad's relationship to sour. Take it with a grain of salt, but I read out on a forum that Brad got a fan knocked up at a convention and out of fear of bad publicity, he later funded her abortion. Jillian did not take this very well. After this, it was also said that Brad was getting into the blow too much, which is believed to be how he lost so much weight. Jillian and Brad did part as friends, but I am sure that she has a lot to say about him.
I don't know why Doug gets such massive hate-boners out of popular, beloved franchises. He does this shit with Harry Potter and Pokemon and there's absolutely no room for acceptance without shitting on them or saying "it's so bad/awkward it's good".
Seems to go for real low hanging fruit, does he? Also, does Doug hate silly since he was waiting for something like The Dark Knight? Was he one of those who thought DC had a “no jokes policy” back in 2013-2016? Also also, nothing will ever be as bad as The Wall since that was Doug being completely out of his wheelhouse with an extra helping of hate because of what he was covering.
Doug came from a rich part of Illinois, specifically a college town, and considering what the early 1990s were like, as well as hints of what he was like as a kid, Doug was once one of those whiny tryhard edgelord "cool" kids who think that being contrarian and "alt" makes them "off norm and better than everyone"; ie "a rebel without a cause". If anything, he's about as affable as a smug huffing PC exclusive gamer and with all of the insufferable smartass fuckery that comes with it, and was the reason why Kurt Cobain left this world via buckshot mouthwash.
Doug is the example of what happens when you enter into society with an unthinking imaginationless autistic consumer mindset like his and give him a digital video camera and a computer. Doug thinks that popular media just gets popular because... ???? and then Profit. History? Study of wants and how trends come to develop? He thinks "Hogwash, shit just gets popular because people just wants it to be, and I think people suck because they deliberately choose shitty things to make popular and makes me feel left out and dejected as some self entitled asshole who thinks the world should cater to me!" His cringeworthy "What makes a man?" video and "Super Robo Penis Ninja" shit video game joke are quite the examples of this. He also seems to be the type of person who believes that everything that is "popular culture" is just merely mass produced in some conglomerate board meeting and is just shit out for everyone to magically become enamored with it as if society is more stupid than him. This is why Doug has no respect for anything that he's seen as a teenager: Because he's really everything that he hates and believes is ruining the world of media and "taste". Projection is one hell of a psychosis.
Does anyone even legit hate the Raimi movies today?? I'm genuinely curious. It was my understanding that the movies, while aging awkwardly in terms of how goofy and campy they are, are generally considered to be beloved by the masses. Even the third film has gained a cult following for its sheer meme potential.
I've never met a single soul that didn't like the Raimi films. Doug sounds like he's defending the film to an audience that doesn't exist.
I mean they haven't aged well in several aspects (the visuals in the first film, the edge in the third), but I'd argue that they still hold a place in how fun they can get.
Doug's whole "Superhero movies have to be serious!" nonsense makes no sense considering even those supposedly serious films have some humor in them, even if unintentional like in the DCEU.
So around the time when Pop Quiz Hotshot was in the making of, I remember hearing this tidbit of information go around of what got Jillian and Brad's relationship to sour. Take it with a grain of salt, but I read out on a forum that Brad got a fan knocked up at a convention and out of fear of bad publicity, he later funded her abortion. Jillian did not take this very well. After this, it was also said that Brad was getting into the blow too much, which is believed to be how he lost so much weight. Jillian and Brad did part as friends, but I am sure that she has a lot to say about him.
This makes a lot of sense to me. Watching a lot of videos he recorded of people partying in hotels at cons, it's clear more than alcohol was involved. Especially if their relationship wasn't open or was only semi-open I could see how that would sour things. Brad does seem like the type who wouldn't be able to resist groupies. It seems like he's much more buttoned down (likely a product of his experiences as well as getting older in general) and only vaguely alludes to the stuff that you'd hear him talk openly about in, say, 2011. I know he was pretty depressed in the mid 2010s and I think that's around when his suicide attempt was (part of why the malicious welfare check hit so hard). I'm glad he's at least doing better on a personal level.
Man, I am NOT looking forward to the rest of Doug's Spider-Man month reviews. As if his horrendous Matrix month wasn't bad enough.
Really though, it seems that he feels that these sorts of superhero movies need to be erased of any kinds of camp, if they are to be taken seriously by adults like him. Like, while he does acknowledge that the first Spider-Man is like a comic book, to him, being like a 50s or 60s comic book is outdated. Hence why he feels that movies such as The Dark Knight are the way to go, as they push the envelope on what these sorts of films can be like. Basically, that the films should strive to be more mature and sophisticated because they can, not necessarily because they should.
Heck, it's why he felt that the Venom film was a slap in the face to the character, as he saw it as basically making a mockery out of a potentially serious idea, and pointed out that settling for it was like settling for Batman and Robin over Joker 2019. There's so much wrong with that statement I don't know where to begin, but to save time, Venom wasn't being mocked by that film's campy tone. In fact, it was very much doing the character justice, as the comics the film pulled from were quite campy and silly.
I'm beginning to think that Batman and Robin has forever tainted his view of what a comic book film should or should not be.
Man, I am NOT looking forward to the rest of Doug's Spider-Man month reviews. As if his horrendous Matrix month wasn't bad enough.
Really though, it seems that he feels that these sorts of superhero movies need to be erased of any kinds of camp, if they are to be taken seriously by adults like him. Like, while he does acknowledge that the first Spider-Man is like a comic book, to him, being like a 50s or 60s comic book is outdated. Hence why he feels that movies such as The Dark Knight are the way to go, as they push the envelope on what these sorts of films can be like. Basically, that the films should strive to be more mature and sophisticated because they can, not necessarily because they should.
Heck, it's why he felt that the Venom film was a slap in the face to the character, as he saw it as basically making a mockery out of a potentially serious idea, and pointed out that settling for it was like settling for Batman and Robin over Joker 2019. There's so much wrong with that statement I don't know where to begin, but to save time, Venom wasn't being mocked by that film's campy tone. In fact, it was very much doing the character justice, as the comics the film pulled from were quite campy and silly.
I'm beginning to think that Batman and Robin has forever tainted his view of what a comic book film should or should not be.
Doug really really hates camp. Unless it's in his children's cartoons, then it's fine. He once whined about Moulin Rouge of all things being too campy. He very much thinks if it's not all dark and gritty then it can't be mature and serious.
Doug's never read a superhero comic in his life. It's not required to of course, but it's annoying since he then goes around acting like an expert over it. Nobody likes an idiot acting like he knows it all.
You know, there were some solid campy moments in The Dark Knight as well! Like the stupid Batman voice, for example. I LOOOOVE The Dark Knight but there were definitely silly moments. It's comic books. Even gritty serious grandstands like Watchmen or The Killing Joke had the occasional offbeat moment.
So around the time when Pop Quiz Hotshot was in the making of, I remember hearing this tidbit of information go around of what got Jillian and Brad's relationship to sour. Take it with a grain of salt, but I read out on a forum that Brad got a fan knocked up at a convention and out of fear of bad publicity, he later funded her abortion. Jillian did not take this very well. After this, it was also said that Brad was getting into the blow too much, which is believed to be how he lost so much weight. Jillian and Brad did part as friends, but I am sure that she has a lot to say about him.
Hasn't almost every well known content creator from TGWTG turned out to be an idiot or a horrible person? On that basis I wouldn't be surprised if Brad turned out to have done those things. But goddamn, I would still be disappointed.
I don't doubt the Walkers have as well, at least at one point. Cons are where this stuff happens. People are in a strange city with people they only know from the internet, living out of hotel rooms and fucking strangers and doing new drugs. If your career requires going to this kind of stuff it's not all that different from being in a band, being a businessman who travels extensively, etc. Drugs and sex are the perks of what can be an exhausting lifestyle, but as a lot of people in these situations learn, it's easy for them to come home with them and turn into a habit. Particularly for someone who needs to be "on" in social situations, abusing uppers becomes really common.
That movie ruined comic book movies, like it's a good movie and all but all the stupid ass executives and dumb audiences took out of it was "dark and gritty = good" and we got a ton of cynical CB movies because of it.
He's repeated the same complaints as in his Old vs New and Dumbest Spiderman Moments, he never learns. It's hilarious he's trying to claim innocence now and how "the Raimi movies aren't that bad guys" when he's the one that started the hate train on them back in the day.
Also, lol, why does he want so desperately Spiderman to be dark and dramatic? Coming from the same turd that loves the MCU and its shitty jokes.
Take it with a grain of salt, but I read out on a forum that Brad got a fan knocked up at a convention and out of fear of bad publicity, he later funded her abortion.
So around the time when Pop Quiz Hotshot was in the making of, I remember hearing this tidbit of information go around of what got Jillian and Brad's relationship to sour. Take it with a grain of salt, but I read out on a forum that Brad got a fan knocked up at a convention and out of fear of bad publicity, he later funded her abortion. Jillian did not take this very well. After this, it was also said that Brad was getting into the blow too much, which is believed to be how he lost so much weight. Jillian and Brad did part as friends, but I am sure that she has a lot to say about him.
s really everything that he hates and believes is ruining the world of media and "taste". Projection is one hell of a psychosis.
Their marriage went to shit after she cheated on him with someone she met online and then he cheated back.
you probably read that shit on PULL or some shit like that , Brad´s biggest fear is being alone and having a kid is a sure way to never being alone anymore so I have to doubt that story, knowing him he would have married her , after all he was willing to raise Rayns son when he wanted to marry her.
