Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Interesting article:


This is the bit that caught my eye: ‘'One of the things which is clear, if you model out the epidemic, is you will get 50% of all the cases over a three-week period and 95% of the cases over a nine-week period, if it follows the trajectory we think it's likely to.”

that’s extremely short, and I would LOVE to see their numbers because I’m nosy and want to see what model this is and what they’re feeding it data wise. But it reinforces what we’ve been saying here - there is going to be a critical time period of probably 2-3 months where pressure on your country’s health service vastly exceeds ability to cope. If you’re severely ill in that time period hard choices will have to be made on who gets treatment. If you get sick now, or after this has peaked, you’ll be more likely to receive full care.
 
Finally. Don't believe Murcia has no cases.
Could you clarify this because I have no idea what you're trying to say.

The first confirmed case in the United States was back on January 20th and we're up to 11 deaths as of right now. Wut?

*metathesis is a hell of a drug
 
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I love the don't be racist msm pandering. Too late for that. It's now circularity in communities all over the world. Racism might of helped in the beginning but now it's too late.

Also apparently there are now 2 strains circularity. Meaning that could explain the reinfection. Also we might have to wait until for 2 vaccines instead of just 1.
 
People are getting way too panicked by this due to msm fearmongering.

Unless you're really old, really young, or have health problems, this thing is nasty but not life-threatening.

Just wash your hands and avoid sick folks. The usual Flu Season stuff.
Agree.

But I'm always this way. At least I can blend in for a couple months.
 
Could you clarify this because I have no idea what you're trying to say.

The first confirmed case in the United States was back on January 20th and we're up to 11 deaths as of right now. Wut?
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People are getting way too panicked by this due to msm fearmongering.

Unless you're really old, really young, or have health problems, this thing is nasty but not life-threatening.

Just wash your hands and avoid sick folks. The usual Flu Season stuff.
you know that covers a lot of people, right? the usual flu doesn't have 3.5% mortality and spread like dandelions. the comparison is absurd
 
People are getting way too panicked by this due to msm fearmongering.

Unless you're really old, really young, or have health problems, this thing is nasty but not life-threatening.

Just wash your hands and avoid sick folks. The usual Flu Season stuff.
Agree.

But I'm always this way. At least I can blend in for a couple months.

No reason to panic, but it's worth staying prepared. The real problem is having too many cases concentrated in a small area at once. This will overwhelm medical services and lead to a bunch of people straight up dying due to other conditions. You also have to consider the medical supply chain. India just banned the export of a bunch of common meds that many countries buy from them and China still isn't producing shit. I'm not looking at the media and getting spooked. I am looking at how key players respond to this shit and their actions unlike their words give me reason to worry.
 
No reason to panic, but it's worth staying prepared. The real problem is having too many cases concentrated in a small area at once. This will overwhelm medical services and lead to a bunch of people straight up dying due to other conditions. You also have to consider the medical supply chain. India just banned the export of a bunch of common meds that many countries buy from them and China still isn't producing shit. I'm not looking at the media and getting spooked. I am looking at how key players respond to this shit and their actions unlike their words give me reason to worry.
yeah, though more importantly imo it's necessary to put pressure on governments. on the US, until recently the CDC was extremely selective about testing, such that they could claim there was no community spread, and they're still dragging their feet on giving access to testing. that case in California a while back that first showed there was community spread in the US was a case that the CDC was extremely reluctant to test and was really pressured to do so. by choosing to only test people from china and people who interacted with known cases, you can pretend that it's contained. they are getting better at this only because they're finally receiving more scrutiny.

there are cheaper, faster methods of testing, like the "pocket PCR" utilized in ebola. In circumstances like these, true positive rates need to be strongly favored over true negative rates and fast testing is a must. national governments need to be pressured to put more money into testing and to make testing more available, and local governments need to be pressured to push back against national governments.

you can't really make the case on media overhyping without realizing that they've been largely platforming politicized health officials to give info about it instead of scientists, esp during the time before the markets took a tumble. I would never suggest a panic, but concern is clearly necessary and that "it's just the flu" bit is a piece of politicking promulgated by media.
 
I'm thinking on going on another rant as to how our MSM is even worse than most by far (because I guess by the end of these thread you gotta all be experts on spanish politica lol) but this time they've been helpful so the population at large knows this shit.
to be fair, it's not called "spanish flu" because it originated there or spaniards got it more, but because they were the only ones to publicize it.
 
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Hungary and Greece are closing their borders to asylum seekers amid the coronavirus outbreak, both countries announced Sunday.

While Hungary has reported no cases of the disease so far, Greece has at least seven.

Hungary's chief security advisor, György Bakondi, said the country was indefinitely suspending accepting asylum seekers to transit zones because of the coronavirus outbreak, local journalist Viktória Serdült reported. Bakondi said new arrivals from Iran, where there have been 978 reported cases and 54 deaths, may pose a danger to those already inside.

As reporter Serdült pointed out, this "effectively shuts down" access to asylum in the country because people without valid visas can only file applications in these transit zones. He added that the chief security advisor "failed to mention that recent Iranian arrivals from Turkey have been living in closed Turkish camps for years, not in Iran."

Greece has reported seven coronavirus cases; Hungary has reported zero.

The Prime Minister of Greece, Kyriakos Mitsotakis, announced that the country would not be accepting any new asylum applications for at least one month. He also said the country's national security council had decided "to increase the level of deterrence at our borders to the maximum."

The Greek prime minister had announced increased border security against migrants last week, citing coronavirus concerns.

"Migration is now taking on a new dimension, as flows to Greece include people from Iran – where we have had many cases of coronavirus – and many passing through Afghanistan," he said at a ministerial meeting on February 27. "Our islands, therefore, already burdened with public health issues, need to be protected twice."

His announcement on Sunday to halt asylum applications came amid reports of clashes between migrants and police at Greece's border with Turkey.

Last week, Turkey said it would open its border with Greece to let migrants enter Europe. By Sunday, more than 13,000 had gathered at Turkey's border with Greece on Sunday in hopes of crossing into the European Union, according to the United Nation's migration organization. Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said his country can't handle the number of migrants fleeing Syria's civil war.

The Daily Express reported on Sunday violence at the border, where migrants threw stones and Greek police fired tear gas.

Countries are increasing border security and banning large public gatherings as coronavirus spreads. REUTERS/Amanda Perobelli

Border restrictions go into effect around the world
Around the world, countries are tightening border security and imposing travel restrictions to slow the spread of the virus.

So far, European countries have pledged to keep their borders open amid the coronavirus outbreak, even as the number of cases in Italy has climbed to almost 1,700 and the death toll to 34. Germany has said, however, that it's tightening border checks amid the outbreak, while countries including France and Switzerland have banned large public gatherings.

In the US, President Donald Trump said on Saturday that his administration was "very strongly" considering closing the southern border with Mexico in response to coronavirus. There have been three reported cases in Mexico, according to CNBC.

The Trump administration announced last month that it would temporarily bar foreigners from entering the US if they had been to China in the last 14 days. The US later extended that ban to any foreign citizen who has visited Iran in the past two weeks.

On Saturday, Vice President Mike Pence, who is in charge of the White House coronavirus task force, said that authorities were issuing a level four advisory warning Americans against traveling to specific areas of Italy and South Korea and that the State Department was developing medical screening guidelines to deploy in those countries of individuals coming into the US.

Countries including Australia, Russia, Japan, Pakistan, and Italy have also imposed similar restrictions on admitting foreigners who have traveled in China, according to the BBC.

Israel has blocked entry to travelers coming from Italy unless they are Israeli citizens.

The head of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Ghebreyesus, said on Thursday that right now, the coronavirus outbreak "can go in any direction based on how we handle it."

Ghebreyesus added: "This is not a time for fear. This is a time for taking action to prevent infection and save lives now."
 
to be fair, it's not called "spanish flu" because it originated there or spaniards got it more, but because they were the only ones to publicize it.
I mean I guess so, but that was due to World War fucking 1. I thought shit had changed since. Seems not. At this point all I can say is I hope everyone else learns the lesson this time. But I don't expect them to.
 
What about using an Ultraviolet Germicidal Irradiation lamp? According to this they will kill 90% of Coronavirus germs.
Outside of the chink propaganda. I could believe UV light to be good at killing viri. Hell I know it is. You know what else it's good at killing? Most things. Sufficiently ionizing UV light is a mutagen, don't use it on your head if you don't want braincancer.
 
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