US Super Tuesday discussion and results

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Live voting results: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/03/us/elections/live-analysis-super-tuesday.html

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The first day of the Democratic contest that really matters for the cold, hard delegate math — Super Tuesday — is almost here.

Tuesday, March 3, will be enormously important because it’s the first day that a lot of the delegates necessary to win the nomination are at stake, and the biggest delegate day overall. A total of 14 states and one territory — including California and Texas, the two most populous states in the country — will hold their primaries or caucuses.

Candidates are competing for about a third of the overall delegates at stake. Those 1,344 delegates allocated on Super Tuesday could effectively settle the race, if one candidate locks down a gigantic lead that will be nearly impossible for anyone else to overcome. The candidate with the best chance of doing that is Sen. Bernie Sanders — his current lead in the polls indicates he can theoretically rack up enough plurality wins in a crowded field to clean up in delegates.

But it’s also possible that Super Tuesday’s delegate haul ends up split among several candidates, with no one having gotten anywhere close to being on track for a majority. That may well mean Democrats are headed to a contested convention.

Whether we’re headed for one of these outcomes (or something in between) depends to a significant extent on Democrats’ complicated delegate allocation rules.


Broadly, delegates are allotted proportionally based on candidates’ performance — the better you do, the more delegates you get. But quirks in the rules mean relatively small differences in the exact split of the votes can lead to large differences in delegates.

We’ll get into the nitty-gritty below. The big picture is that if one person ends up with a commanding lead and gets nearly half the delegates, that candidate will become the overwhelming favorite for the nomination. But if the delegate leader has a narrow edge and is well below half of the delegates, a long, close-fought contest will likely ensue.

1) Why is Super Tuesday a big deal?
It’s simple: There are a whole lot of delegates at stake.

The way to win the Democratic nomination is by winning delegates — specifically, winning 1,991 out of 3,979 pledged delegates, enough for a majority to get the nomination at the Democratic National Convention. And there are 1,344 delegates — one-third of the total — up for grabs in Super Tuesday’s contests.

Though there will be several more months of primaries remaining, it’s possible that Super Tuesday can settle the nomination contest. It’s not mathematically possible to reach the “magic number” of delegates yet — but Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004 won so convincingly on Super Tuesday that their opponents quit shortly afterward.

Yet Super Tuesday can also pave the way for a very long race. In 2008, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ended up nearly tied after an early February Super Tuesday, and they battled it out through four months of remaining contests. In 2016, Clinton locked in a solid advantage over Sanders on Super Tuesday that she never relinquished — but it wasn’t such an overwhelmingly dominant performance as to drive Sanders to quit the race, so he stayed in.

2) Why is there a Super Tuesday?
No one person or group dictates the primary calendar from the top down. The national Democratic and Republican parties have declared that the month of February is reserved only for the four early states — Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina. But after that, it’s just up to states to schedule primaries whenever they want between March and June.

Many states that want to influence the outcome of the nomination have calculated that the best way to do that is to go as early as possible: on the first Tuesday in March. (This dynamic has been called “frontloading.”)

Super Tuesday actually began as a plot to help President Jimmy Carter stave off a primary challenge from Ted Kennedy in 1980, as Carter’s strategists got three large Southern states where he was expected to do well to schedule their primaries early. From 1984 through 1992, other Southern states joined in an attempt to give their region more influence (as did a few non-Southern states).

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Eventually, big states from elsewhere in the country wanted in, and the first Super Tuesday that truly spanned the nation took place in 2000. That’s been the norm ever since, though the exact lineup varies from cycle to cycle as states move their nominating contests around. (Super Tuesday 2008 is still the record-holder for the number of states and the proportion of the total delegates at stake.)

3) What are this year’s Super Tuesday states?
From most delegates at stake to least, they are:
  • California (415 delegates)
  • Texas (228 delegates)
  • North Carolina (110 delegates)
  • Virginia (99 delegates)
  • Massachusetts (91 delegates)
  • Minnesota (75 delegates)
  • Colorado (67 delegates)
  • Tennessee (64 delegates)
  • Alabama (52 delegates)
  • Oklahoma (37 delegates)
  • Arkansas (31 delegates)
  • Utah (29 delegates)
  • Maine (24 delegates)
  • Vermont (16 delegates)
  • American Samoa (6 delegates)
Another contest, involving “Democrats Abroad” — Democratic voters living overseas — will begin on Super Tuesday, but won’t end until March 10. So it’s those 14 states and one territory that will have their voting conclude on Super Tuesday, with 1,344 delegates at stake overall.

That’s a lot to get your head around, so it can be helpful to break down the lineup into groups:

  • California (31 percent of Super Tuesday delegates): The biggest single prize.
  • Seven Southern states (46 percent of the day’s delegates): Like Super Tuesdays of old, this year’s map is skewed toward the South, though it’s a grab bag of very different states from that region — most notably Texas, but also North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama, and Oklahoma.
  • The rest (23 percent of delegates): There’s a trio of New England states, Minnesota from the Midwest, Colorado and Utah from the West, and American Samoa.
Finally, it’s worth remembering that even though Super Tuesday is just one day, several of the states involved began early voting or mail balloting weeks ago. So a chunk of the vote will have been locked in before Tuesday itself.

4) How does someone win Super Tuesday?
In one sense, the way to ensure Super Tuesday delegate dominance is simple — win by a lot, in a lot of places. If Sanders or anyone else manages to do that, they’ll end up with a big delegate lead.

But if most outcomes are closer or if the results are mixed, the delegate situation will be highly contingent on the exact breakdown of the vote, because of Democrats’ complex delegate allocation rules.
Democrats have no “winner-take-all states” (where whoever comes in first place gets all that state’s delegates) — instead, they allot delegates proportionally based on each contest’s results.

That means winning isn’t all that matters: The margin of victory is crucial. A narrow win will barely provide an advantage in the delegate count, because proportional rules mean the second-place finisher usually gets close to the same amount of delegates. But winning in a landslide will provide a big delegate edge.

Beyond that, the devil is in the details, particularly when the field is as large as this one is.

5) Why is the devil in the details?
First off, there’s the threshold: Candidates need to get 15 percent of the vote somewhere to get any delegates there. Those below 15 percent are nonviable and get nothing.

Second, it’s not quite so simple as “30 percent of the vote gets you 30 percent of delegates.” Instead, it’s your percentage of the viable candidates’ vote that matters. Basically, votes for any candidate who’s below 15 percent are excluded, and your percentage of whatever’s left determines your share of delegates.

So let’s say you get 30 percent of the vote, but there are three other viable candidates, getting 25 percent, 20 percent, and 15 percent of the vote. The viable vote adds up to 90 percent, and your 30 percent is one-third of that — so you get one-third of the delegates. Here’s how it would play out under a sample scenario, if there were 10 delegates at stake. (Note: Former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Amy Klobuchar dropped out of the race just before Super Tuesday.)
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A very different situation transpires if you get 30 percent of the vote and only one other candidate is viable, getting 20 percent, with the rest of the vote split among several others. The viable vote would then add up to 50 percent. Your 30 percent is three-fifths of that — so you get many more of the delegates at stake.
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This means a great deal can depend on the exact breakdown of the vote — particularly in big states with many delegates at stake.

Finally, as if all this wasn’t enough, a candidate’s statewide performance is not all that matters for delegates. The majority of the Super Tuesday delegates (about 65 percent) are in fact allotted based on results in individual districts (mostly congressional districts, except for Texas, which uses state senate districts instead).

Proportional allocation with a 15 percent threshold applies separately in all these districts. That means that if you do well in a state overall but are at 14 percent in a district there, you’ll get zero of that district’s delegates.

Take California. There are 415 total delegates at stake there. But only 144 of them will be awarded proportionally based on statewide results. The other 271 are divvied out according to the proportional results in California’s 53 congressional districts (with 4-7 delegates at stake in each district).

It’s all quite complicated. But all in all, Super Tuesday is a contest to top 15 percent by as much as possible in as many places (states and districts) as possible. Every time candidates get zeroed out by falling below the threshold is bad news for them.

6) So if you get the most delegates, you win, right?
Well, technically, you don’t win the Democratic nomination just by winning more delegates than anyone else. The party’s rules state that you need an outright majority of the 3,979 pledged delegates to win the nomination on the first ballot.

So another key thing to watch for in the Super Tuesday results is whether the delegate leader is on track for an actual majority — or, if not, just how far off track they are from it.

Again, Democrats’ lack of winner-take-all states makes this question very important.

  • If a candidate finishes Super Tuesday with 40 percent of delegates so far, he or she needs to win 56 percent of the remaining delegates for a majority.
  • If the top candidate has 35 percent of delegates after Super Tuesday, he or she needs to win 59 percent of the remaining delegates.
  • If the post-Super Tuesday leader has 30 percent of delegates so far, he or she needs to win 62 percent of the remainder.
The problem is that those proportional delegate allocation rules make it difficult to rack up large delegate advantages. Again, narrow wins in states result in the delegates being split. To gain the upper hand, you can’t just win states — you have to win big.

So if the leading candidate is significantly off track from a majority after the Super Tuesday delegate haul is locked in, he or she may never get back on track for one — paving the way to a contested convention in which no candidate wins the majority on the first ballot (something that’s never occurred in the modern nomination system).

That’s the theory, anyway. Many believe that in practice, Democrats would face enormous pressure to give the nomination to whoever wins the most delegates, even if that person is short of a majority. The specifics could depend on just how big that first-place person’s lead is, and how close to a majority they end up — which shows why, again, the delegate details of Super Tuesday are crucial.

7) What will happen on Super Tuesday this time around?
Overall, despite all the drama in the Democratic contest so far, it’s important to remember that barely any delegates (just 4 percent of the total) will have been allotted before Super Tuesday.

So while the expectation now is that Bernie Sanders is the frontrunner, and polls appear to back that up, this won’t really be set in stone until we see how he — and everyone else — does on Super Tuesday.

Sanders could, as many now expect, win most states by significant margins and build a sizable delegate lead that will carry him to the nomination. But if there’s a late swing to another candidate — such as Biden, who just won big in South Carolina on Saturday — Sanders could also lose his frontrunner status quite quickly.

For the other candidates who have had more mixed outcomes or little success, Super Tuesday is really do or die. If you don’t get a significant chunk of the Super Tuesday delegates, it becomes all but impossible to get a pledged delegate majority.

Super Tuesday is also the first electoral test for former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, who has spent half a billion dollars on advertising across the country but skipped the four early states. Bloomberg rose in national polls and in polls of Super Tuesday states over the past month, but scrutiny of his past and his rocky performance in the Democratic Las Vegas debate have lately sent his numbers in the other direction.

But the crowded field this year means that, depending on how the ball bounces on March 3, there are several possible outcomes with very different implications for the race. Here are the main ones:

  • One candidate emerges with a large delegate lead and on track for the majority: This would mean they’re a commanding favorite to win the nomination.
  • One candidate emerges with a large delegate plurality in a split field but is not on track for a majority: This means that person is the favorite to get the nomination eventually, but one or more of their rivals could continue campaigning to try and deprive them of the majority and make things interesting at the convention.
  • Two candidates split almost all the delegates: This would likely mean a two-person race going forward, with the outcome up in the air, but likely to be settled before the convention (since it’s extremely likely, in a two-candidate race, that one person ends up with a majority).
  • Three or more candidates split delegates, and no one’s on track for a majority: This is the scenario where a contested convention would be most likely.
Finally, it’s entirely possible that we won’t actually know the Super Tuesday outcome on Super Tuesday. For instance, California takes a famously long time to count votes (due to the need to verify late-arriving mailed ballots), and the exact vote shares and margins both statewide and in its 53 congressional districts could be important.

If one candidate does end up winning almost everywhere, that might not be such a big deal. But in this nomination contest so far, it’s usually prudent to expect that things could get messy

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Super Tuesday looks to be interesting with Klob and Mayor Pete dropping out, I imagine Biden and Bloomberg will pickup most of those delegates. Looks to be lots of fun.


Polls: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/democratic_nomination_polls/

CNN interviews with all the candidates from last night:
Michael Bloomberg

Elizabeth Warren:

Bernie Sanders:

Joe Biden:

My super tuesday choices:
Alabama(Biden), Arkansas(Biden), California(Bernie), Colorado(Bernie), Democrats Abroad(Biden), Maine(Biden), Massachusetts(Biden), Minnesota(Biden), North Carolina(Biden), Oklahoma(Biden), Tennessee(Biden), Texas(Bernie), Utah(Bernie), Vermont(Bernie), and Virginia(Biden)

Update: All but Texas I got correct, based. I forgot American Samoa but that's tribes of people and my guess is as good as any. Democrats abroad takes a week to trickle in.
 
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Joe Biden wasted no time following his Super Tuesday anointment as the Democratic establishment’s favorite candidate by hitting the Hollywood fundraising circuit, rubbing elbows with the likes of Leonardo DiCaprio, Sony Pictures Entertainment honcho Tom Rothman, and former California Governor Gray Davis.

Playing to the elite crowd, Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) tore into President Donald Trump by saying his administration lacks “decency and honor” and may one day be viewed as a “historical aberration.”

“Folks, you all know as well as I do, this is the most important election you ever voted in, not because of Joe Biden, and I mean that. I’m not talking about me,” he reportedly said at the event, which was held at former Paramount boss Sherry Lansing’s Bel Air home.

“It’s because if we find someone who can defeat Trump and reestablish some regular order in this country and some decency and honor, your kids and grandkids will read about this period of our history as a historical aberration,

Biden added: “If he’s elected to four more years, I promise you we will see this society change in a fundamental way for at least a generation or two.”

The Hollywood Reporter noted that ticket prices for the swanky fundraiser ranged from $1,000 to $2,800.

Joe Biden also joked about the on-stage drama that occurred the day before at a campaign rally in Los Angeles when a vegan activists rushed the stage, prompting Jill Biden to physically block one of the protesters from reaching her husband.

“Whoa, you don’t screw around with a Philly girl, I’ll tell you what,” Biden, 77, reportedly said. “I tell you what man, I married way above my station.”

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During a special Fox News town hall with President Trump Thursday, the commander in chief confessed he was "mentally" set to face Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders in the 2020 general election this November before former Vice President Joe Biden's resurgence Tuesday.

"I was all set for Bernie because I thought it was gonna happen," Trump said, responding to co-host Bret Baier. "You know, we get ready for things, right? So mentally, I'm all set for Bernie ... Communist, I had everything down."

Shortly before Super Tuesday, Sanders took criticism for praising deceased Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and his reading initiative, prompting criticism from all sides. However, Biden's strong showing Tuesday, winning multiple states and taking the delegate lead has made him the frontrunner once again.

Trump mocked Biden's gaffes that surrounded Super Tuesday.

"And then we have this crazy thing that happened right on Tuesday, which [Biden] thought was Thursday," Trump said, making the crowd laugh. "But he also said 150 million people were killed with guns and he was running for the United States Senate. 'Support me, I'm running for the United States.' There's something going on there."

The president attributed Sanders' loss in Texas to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., who dropped out of the race Thursday. Trump compared both Sanders and Biden, saying Sanders would pose more of a threat because of his base but that it would be difficult for him to rebound from Tuesday's elections.

"Two very different people. I think it a certain way, Bernie, would be tougher because he's got a base," Trump said. "It's a much smaller base than my base. I think a lot of my people are here because I did nothing to do that. But we have a lot of support in Pennsylvania. I think we have a lot of support if you look at the rallies."

"I was all set for Bernie, I was ready to go in, then I say, you know, I don't think I'm running against Bernie," Trump added. "I think it's going to be very hard for him to come back."

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Joe Biden living it high in Tinsel Town. Proof that at this point, no one cares about money in politics anymore.

And Trump is now bracing to face this demented fuck knowing it will be harder. After all it was 4 years ago when people said the same about him and many Republicans are getting smug about beating Biden.
Because having a bunch of smug celebs shit on the peoples choice worked well last time. Idk man i honestly don't think trump has much to worry about. Besides doing really good as far as incumbents go The Democrats have failed to learn their lesson at all and they're more fractured than when HRC was running.
If anything they're going to lose due to their own incompetence as a party in general.
 
Liz is out lads so what do we have now?

Theres bernie whos ideas are so demented that no reasonable person couod think they could work.

The theres joe, who is obiouly suffering from the early stages of dimnentia, but is in the "middle".

This next debate is going to be nasty. Its going to be brutal. Its going to be cruel.

Friendly reminder, a lot of boomers have seen their beloved patents suffer from dimentia (bless their hearts).

The next few weeks will be fun.
 


Joe Biden wasted no time following his Super Tuesday anointment as the Democratic establishment’s favorite candidate by hitting the Hollywood fundraising circuit, rubbing elbows with the likes of Leonardo DiCaprio, Sony Pictures Entertainment honcho Tom Rothman, and former California Governor Gray Davis.

Playing to the elite crowd, Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) tore into President Donald Trump by saying his administration lacks “decency and honor” and may one day be viewed as a “historical aberration.”

“Folks, you all know as well as I do, this is the most important election you ever voted in, not because of Joe Biden, and I mean that. I’m not talking about me,” he reportedly said at the event, which was held at former Paramount boss Sherry Lansing’s Bel Air home.

“It’s because if we find someone who can defeat Trump and reestablish some regular order in this country and some decency and honor, your kids and grandkids will read about this period of our history as a historical aberration,

Biden added: “If he’s elected to four more years, I promise you we will see this society change in a fundamental way for at least a generation or two.”

The Hollywood Reporter noted that ticket prices for the swanky fundraiser ranged from $1,000 to $2,800.

Joe Biden also joked about the on-stage drama that occurred the day before at a campaign rally in Los Angeles when a vegan activists rushed the stage, prompting Jill Biden to physically block one of the protesters from reaching her husband.

“Whoa, you don’t screw around with a Philly girl, I’ll tell you what,” Biden, 77, reportedly said. “I tell you what man, I married way above my station.”

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During a special Fox News town hall with President Trump Thursday, the commander in chief confessed he was "mentally" set to face Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders in the 2020 general election this November before former Vice President Joe Biden's resurgence Tuesday.

"I was all set for Bernie because I thought it was gonna happen," Trump said, responding to co-host Bret Baier. "You know, we get ready for things, right? So mentally, I'm all set for Bernie ... Communist, I had everything down."

Shortly before Super Tuesday, Sanders took criticism for praising deceased Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and his reading initiative, prompting criticism from all sides. However, Biden's strong showing Tuesday, winning multiple states and taking the delegate lead has made him the frontrunner once again.

Trump mocked Biden's gaffes that surrounded Super Tuesday.

"And then we have this crazy thing that happened right on Tuesday, which [Biden] thought was Thursday," Trump said, making the crowd laugh. "But he also said 150 million people were killed with guns and he was running for the United States Senate. 'Support me, I'm running for the United States.' There's something going on there."

The president attributed Sanders' loss in Texas to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., who dropped out of the race Thursday. Trump compared both Sanders and Biden, saying Sanders would pose more of a threat because of his base but that it would be difficult for him to rebound from Tuesday's elections.

"Two very different people. I think it a certain way, Bernie, would be tougher because he's got a base," Trump said. "It's a much smaller base than my base. I think a lot of my people are here because I did nothing to do that. But we have a lot of support in Pennsylvania. I think we have a lot of support if you look at the rallies."

"I was all set for Bernie, I was ready to go in, then I say, you know, I don't think I'm running against Bernie," Trump added. "I think it's going to be very hard for him to come back."

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Joe Biden living it high in Tinsel Town. Proof that at this point, no one cares about money in politics anymore.

And Trump is now bracing to face this demented fuck knowing it will be harder. After all it was 4 years ago when people said the same about him and many Republicans are getting smug about beating Biden.
For sure Biden is tougher than Sanders. The man is barely cognizant but he'll still come out swinging and he's got people around him who aren't complete clowns. Bernie is perhaps the most ballsless Commie I've ever seen, barely offering a retort as everyone points out what an ineffectual idiot he is and his crew have absolutely no response to the most entry level political maneuvers.
 
Joe Biden living it high in Tinsel Town. Proof that at this point, no one cares about money in politics anymore.

And Trump is now bracing to face this demented fuck knowing it will be harder. After all it was 4 years ago when people said the same about him and many Republicans are getting smug about beating Biden.

Trump has been campaigning since 2016. Look at the ground game his campaign is mounting. I think that he and his campaign staff are fully aware they will need people solid turn out to win. As I pointed out several pages back, turnout for Trump in caucuses/primaries has often far exceeded historical incumbent totals. That indicates enthusiasm. While I do agree hubris will be Trumps death knell - as it is with virtually any candidate - I don't think you can compare this election to 2016 at all. Grandpa Joe getting propped up in hollywood means fuck all. Of course he'll get those votes. As usual, it's the moderates/independents he needs to sway. There is an incumbent in office this cycle with a successful term in his pocket and a motivated base. That will be hard to beat.
 
Liz is out lads so what do we have now?

Theres bernie whos ideas are so demented that no reasonable person couod think they could work.

The theres joe, who is obiouly suffering from the early stages of dimnentia, but is in the "middle".

This next debate is going to be nasty. Its going to be brutal. Its going to be cruel.

Friendly reminder, a lot of boomers have seen their beloved patents suffer from dimentia (bless their hearts).

The next few weeks will be fun.

Technically Surf Mommy is still in the race. Although the DNC just changed the debate qualifying rules again to keep her off the stage.
 
I'm not 100% sure that Trump will have an easy go this time round.

Sure Biden is a doddering senile old fool but the democrats will vote for anyone blue, hell that's their election tag-line; "anyone is better then Trump!"

Trump got lucky in some key races last time around and hubris going into 2020 could lead to a reverse Hillary.

I hope Trump and his team take this election seriously because if the democrats can somehow muster enuff voter turn-out then it doesn't matter if they run Biden, Bernie or a clump of steaming manure cuz "vote blue no matter who" is this elections rallying cry.

The Republicans will turn out like always but the moderate democrats are the wildcard this time around and you can forget the "progressive youth" block. They couldn't even be bothered to put down Twitter long enuff to go vote for their savior Bernie so I doubt they'll bother to turn out for Blind-Joe.

I don't think the Democrats will make the same mistake twice and ignore the key moderate states so Trump will have to work to offer them something more then gimme-dats.

Possible. Trump is in many ways hubris personified. But it’s worth noting that on Super Tuesday there were substantially more primary votes cast for Trump, running largely unopposed in pointless mainly ceremonial GOP Primaries, that there were for the Dems combined. Trump’s hardcore base went out of their way to cast a primary vote for him when there was no actual reason to do so. Whereas Boinies “Yoot Vote” didn’t bother to show up. Biden May have all the Dem old people who do show up, but I think Trump has far more old people in his corner. A bunch of Pennsylvania local and state Dems switched to GOP over the weekend. The week before saw a bunch of Mississippi ones do the same. Which is not a sign of rising grassroots Joementum.

There are a few other structural headwinds working against Biden in the General. That are their regardless of the distinctive Trump factor. It is almost impossible for a modern former Veep to win the Presidency. The problem is baked in. Vice Presidents are selected in part to elevate the parties Presidential Candidate. Part of that is when standing next to the Presidential a Candidate or President, the Veep must always look the lesser of the two. The core problem is while they are by design selected to always look lesser next to the President they serve with, it also has the knock on effect that they will always look that way when standing next to the other sides President as well. It would be like trying to run Dan Quayle against Bill Clinton in ‘96. Or try imagining a race between Barrack obama and Mike Pence. The sitting President always enters the race from the high ground, having a built in aura of Prestige and ability. Running a Veep against an incumbent President magnifies this. And this is before we throw in Trump in all his hard fighting Trumpiness, and Biden’s apparent dementia into the mix.
 
I'm amazed Biden has gotten this far. His gaffes make W. sound eloquent, and I'm not even convinced that he knows what day of the week it is or that he's even that he's running for president - I wouldn't trust the man to baby-sit a child.
At least my girl tulsi got on tuckers show a few times. Love how the only sensible Democrat got 0 time. Oh well at least I know none of these geriatric fucks can beat trump.


 
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Let's Make America Think Harder (MATH)

Percentage of voting age demographics as all demographics = (9 + 10 + 15 + 5) / 100 = 39% (spics know how to pop one out)

18-29
% of Voting-Age Demographic = 9 / .39 = 23.08%
Actual voter % = 15%
Actual to Total Ratio = 15 / 23.08 = .65

30-44
% of Voting-Age Demographic = 10 / .39 = 39%
Actual Voter % = 22%
Actual to Total Ratio = 22 / 39 = .73

45-64
% of Voting-Age Demographic = 15 / .39 = 38.46%
Actual Voter % = 38%
Actual to Total Ratio = 38 / 38.46 = .96

65+
% of Voting-Age Demographic = 5 / .39 = 19.5%
Actual Voter % = 25%
Actual to Total Ratio = 25 / 19.5 = 1.28

65+ Turnout vs. 18-29 Turnout = 1.28 / .65 = 1.97

tl;dr

not to question your math but i literally checked and the under 18 pop is 25% not 61%. Also i'm sure we would be getting articles out the asshole if 2/3rds of the population was under 18.
 
Bernie Bros now:
"HES A LOW INFORMATION VOTER! HES A LOW INFORMATION VOTER! THROW HIS ASS OUT!"
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"50 years ago we would’ve demanded voter i.d.! You’d fail a literacy test be unable to vote. Should’ve poll taxed your ass out of here, you low information voter!"

I know this is hyperbole, but I genuinely believe that voter ID should be required. If you need vetting to get a permission slip to drive a car then at the very least you should have to present and verify your identity to vote.
Not that the Democrats would every sign off on it, too many dead people vote Dem.
 
I know this is hyperbole, but I genuinely believe that voter ID should be required. If you need vetting to get a permission slip to drive a car then at the very least you should have to present and verify your identity to vote.
Not that the Democrats would every sign off on it, too many dead people vote Dem.
Voter ID is a non-issue for African Americans. They've done surveys and just about everyone has an ID. You need one to drive, buy alcohol, rent apartments, fly on an airplane; why not vote?
 
The toughest church I've ever been in was a Pentecostal one. Can't say as I see the popularity feel-good idea there.

They latch on to ideas, concepts and interpretations that allow them to feel powerful. A strong draw in the initial growth of the tradition (aside from racial integration) was that it allowed free emotional expression in a religious context. The "gift of tongues" was initially understood to literally be polyglotism-- when they failed horribly in their missions hoping to do this, it was retconned into "the language of angels" through a reading of 1 Corinthians so tortured the pre-Christian Roman Empire would shudder, and so ahistorical Bill and Ted would shake their heads in shame. Now, I think "encrypting your prayers so Satan can't intercept them" is catching on, which begs the question of why would you would ever resort to praying in a human language.

In short, Pentecostals have a different sense of "feel-good" still steeped in shallow emotionalism... but with more anger.
 
Its funny anyone is even humoring the idea of Trump losing. Sure, pride comes before the fall and all that but every actual factor (not polls) that has ever determined who would win a presidency points to an overwhelming Trump win.

-Incumbent president
-Good economy (or at the least a weakening economy that can be blamed on corona/China which only pushes people towards an "anti-china" Trump)
-Reasonable gas prices
-Just won against what will be considered a legendarily dumb impeachment attempt
-Record breaking incumbent primary
-Completely fractured opposing Party
-The two Democratic front runners are suffering from, obvious, massive health issues. One of which is fucking dementia of all things

It doesn't even matter if you like Trump or not. There is pretty much no chance in hell of him losing baring his death (which would still likely win pence Trump's second term) or some crazy black friday level's of economic catastrophe (which Trump would still probably win).
 
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