Orbiter 🏳️‍🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.

Nick's wet dream of being the head honcho of right-wing talking heads falls apart when you take a deeper look into his genius approach to "optics". It doesn't matter how many live viewers consisting of 20-something nu alt-righters watch his amateur political show. No normie conservative is going to support a rabble-rousing child that still lives with his parents, who's master plan is to send trolls out to Q&A's to whine and cry about how "No, WE'RE the REAL conservatives!" to a bunch of neo-cons who never actually supported "true conservatism" in the first place.
Whether you like it or not, the mainstream right will tolerate gayservatives, more legal immigrants, and Israel Firsters as long as Reagan/Trump-style tax cuts, low unemployment and the ever-elusive border wall stay on the table. Furthermore, the vast majority of the modern right see the alt-right in the same lens that they view Antifa and the far-left, and wouldn't be caught dead supporting anyone even thrice-removed from the absolute mess that was Charlottesville. The totally-not-a-pedo catboy thing is just the cherry on top of the shit sundae. Alienating everyone who genuinely supported Nick's traditionalist politics, leaving his remaining viewerbase full of exceptional NEETs who only watch AF for le ebin cookie jokes and based trolling,
Don't get me wrong, he'll still be around to collect chinese lemons from his peanut-brained audience, but no one will care what he has to say, and the groyper wars will be a footnote of a footnote in the history of American conservatism.
The issue remains that he lacks appeal outisde of the infamous ugandan pottery forum, he has enough of a following to subsist from the internet comfortably for a few more years at best. But outside of that intial appeal anyone thinking you can "red pill" the normies while at the same time lacking the convinction to stand by your statements becuase of bad optics is just exceptional. But look at it this way JF has faded into irrelavency suprisingly quickly despite being, at the time the headhoncho of race realism a couple of years ago. What comes very quickly goes just as easily in this buissness.
 
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Nick's wet dream of being the head honcho of right-wing talking heads falls apart when you take a deeper look into his genius approach to "optics". It doesn't matter how many live viewers consisting of 20-something nu alt-righters watch his amateur political show. No normie conservative is going to support a rabble-rousing child that still lives with his parents, who's master plan is to send trolls out to Q&A's to whine and cry about how "No, WE'RE the REAL conservatives!" to a bunch of neo-cons who never actually supported "true conservatism" in the first place.
Whether you like it or not, the mainstream right will tolerate gayservatives, more legal immigrants, and Israel Firsters as long as Reagan/Trump-style tax cuts, low unemployment and the ever-elusive border wall stay on the table. Furthermore, the vast majority of the modern right see the alt-right in the same lens that they view Antifa and the far-left, and wouldn't be caught dead supporting anyone even thrice-removed from the absolute mess that was Charlottesville. The totally-not-a-pedo catboy thing is just the cherry on top of the shit sundae. Alienating everyone who genuinely supported Nick's traditionalist politics, leaving his remaining viewerbase full of exceptional NEETs who only watch AF for le ebin cookie jokes and based trolling,
Don't get me wrong, he'll still be around to collect chinese lemons from his peanut-brained audience, but no one will care what he has to say, and the groyper wars will be a footnote of a footnote in the history of American conservatism.
It's Bernie Bro mentality but for the right wing. A bunch of young people get together, say the current party doesn't support the TRUE spirit of the right/left wing, form a platform to 'realign' the party, then get kicked in the dick by older voters who don't care about major radical change and just want to be comfy. It's a political tale as old as time.
 
I haven't seen much about this, but it smells a lot like the old Colbert show was, where a character had seemingly ridiculous views that brought shock clicks and some agreement in a subset of the viewership. I have to wonder how deep the con goes or if it's genuine. I'd laugh if it's just a character to toss out the window when he's offered a chief anchor spot on the young turks and he makes Cenk look like the conservative one of the group.

I only know this guy's stance on MAGA thots, and I at least agree with that. I recently talked with a girl with a Maga hat and she was basically a bernie voter in disguise. "Hell yeah, I love trump, I'm redpilled as fuck. It's bullshit how like debt and loans exist though, they should forgive them all and just clean the slate. I got my degree in film and I can't find any jobs out here in the midwest." At least try to blend in, you quisling.
 
I'm aware of that. That's why he cares about CPAC a lot because it's a good way for him to get noticed by more people. CPAC is a fairly big tent event and wanting to gain an audience there would definitely help him out.

Plus it would also help solidify and normalize him. I don't even think people like Duke or Spencer ever went to CPAC before.
It won't even be a footnote of a footnote

No one will remember this in five years

That's like saying even though nobody cares about the Tea Party right now they didn't have a massive impact on mainstream conservatism, which they certainly did.

The goal of every movement like this isn't to replace the status quo but rather veer the larger ship slightly. Breadtubers and DSA types are the same. As silly and benign they are, their fervor is 100% why Bernie Sanders is where he is.
Where movements like this succeed is that they don't need to point to wild hypotheticals, it's mostly "let's go back to what was working before." That's far easier to swallow for most people, especially those who wonder silently why we need to stand and applaud for gay black conservatives who say shit like "well MY Jesus loves me and approves of sodomy." Pretty much everything starts as a small vocal movement that builds. On the flipside, it's the reason we are even talking about third term abortions now.

Ultimately the Groypers will eventually have an effect because it's part of several other movements drilling into the Israel issue, the promotion of homosexuality, and a return to national identity among other things. Fuentes won't be king of anything but I think these smaller dismissive movements do have a significant impact over time.
 
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Lol, CNN commentator Amanda Carpenter (1982-11-20), who ALLEGES that she did not have an affair with Ted Cruz when he was her boss, and who CLAIMS she is not a ho, is cancelling every boomer's dream Filipino mail order bride Michelle Malkin over her association with Nick Fuentes and other edgy homosexual racist conservatives.
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I am reasonably sure that Carpenter, and her pre-Cruz sugar daddy that she may still be married to, Christopher Joh Kinnan (1972-04-30), live in the Arlington, VA region, but yet to confirm.
Kind of veering off topic since it's only tangentially associated with Nick, but what a cunt to gun for blanket censorship of Malkin and go after her job like this.

This isn't a "don't punch right" thing. This is a "feeding other people to the alligator so you can be eaten last is both a bitch move and incredibly stupid" thing. Criticize her all you want, but this is clearly an attempt at Antifa style deplatforming bullshit, which validates those tactics on the left, where they'll use them against a much wider target range like your sugar daddy Cruz, Carpenter.

Speaking of Quisling thots on the right...
 
Fuentes associate @BrainsickBlaze reposts partially clothed images of preteen girls on his twitter account. Upon being called out, he blames an 'e girl' for asking that people report the account that posted the images.
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I guess 'anti degeneracy' means you wife up the kids before they post pictures of themselves online? Very interesting. Racist conservatism seems to have the same problem with pedophilia that mainstream conservatives like Denny Hastert and Mark Foley do.
 
Weird how Fuentes just keeps end up being associated with guys that have homosexual pasts or lust after underage girls.

Nickers are now in the position (if they were to try and defend it, which they won't they'll just pretend it never happened) where their best case scenario is arguing that Fuentes is just an extremely bad judge of character. That's nothing new though as even when I was in the Discord server if you brought up these types they just kept telling you that disavowing is gay
 
I guess 'anti degeneracy' means you wife up the kids before they post pictures of themselves online? Very interesting. Racist conservatism seems to have the same problem with pedophilia that mainstream conservatives like Denny Hastert and Mark Foley do.
Though, I'd say in Hastert and Foley's case that they tend to be an exception rather than the rule. That being said, the extremes of both sides tend to attract exceptional individuals, especially in the realm of sexual deviancy. The "degenerate" police tend to be the right-wing equivalent of male feminists in that regard.
Weird how Fuentes just keeps end up being associated with guys that have homosexual pasts or lust after underage girls.

Nickers are now in the position (if they were to try and defend it, which they won't they'll just pretend it never happened) where their best case scenario is arguing that Fuentes is just an extremely bad judge of character. That's nothing new though as even when I was in the Discord server if you brought up these types they just kept telling you that disavowing is gay
Either Nick is a) a poor judge of character, meaning that he's incompetent or b) he attracts these people because he is one. Either way, Nick "Muh Optics" Fuentes is no position to lead a movement that claims to value decency as opposed to "Conservative, Inc."

As for "disavowing is gay," that seems to be a trend on the broader dissident right movement. Following the El Paso shooting, The Distributist - part of the Trad Cat crowd, though not necessarily a Nicker - went on a sperg rage about why he wasn't going to disavow the El Paso shooting for some reason...


Anyway, because Normie Cons have bent over backwards to avoid being called racists, the dissident right thinks that the natural solution is to double down rather than disavow bad actors. Hey, these guys may be degenerates, but they're our degenerates. TRUST THE PLAN, GUYS! CATBOIS AND PEDOS WILL SAVE THE WEST!
 
Anyway, because Normie Cons have bent over backwards to avoid being called racists, the dissident right thinks that the natural solution is to double down rather than disavow bad actors. Hey, these guys may be degenerates, but they're our degenerates. TRUST THE PLAN, GUYS! CATBOIS AND PEDOS WILL SAVE THE WEST!

I think these people genuinely don't understand the prospect of having a response that isn't overly emphatic. You don't have to beg and bend over backwards out of fear of the dreaded r-word, or refuse to condemn mass shootings. Just say "yeah, of course I don't support that" and stay on message. There's a reason every politician has the same template 'thoughts and prayers' tweet whenever an attack occurs, it's so they can pay the requisite amount of lip service before moving back onto what they want to talk about.

You'd think people would see how dumb this 'nevur apologise!' shit is after Sargon. You don't have to grovel and beg, just say 'my bad' or 'that's not me' and move on - like Trump with the whole grabbing pussy thing. Then just say something new that they have to respond to so they're back talking about what you want to talk about.
 
I think these people genuinely don't understand the prospect of having a response that isn't overly emphatic. You don't have to beg and bend over backwards out of fear of the dreaded r-word, or refuse to condemn mass shootings. Just say "yeah, of course I don't support that" and stay on message. There's a reason every politician has the same template 'thoughts and prayers' tweet whenever an attack occurs, it's so they can pay the requisite amount of lip service before moving back onto what they want to talk about.

You'd think people would see how dumb this 'nevur apologise!' shit is after Sargon. You don't have to grovel and beg, just say 'my bad' or 'that's not me' and move on - like Trump with the whole grabbing pussy thing. Then just say something new that they have to respond to so they're back talking about what you want to talk about.
Everyone on the right besides Trump seems to have this problem for some reason. It's either "I condemn these bad Nazis someone forwarded me a New York Times article about without doing any unbiased research into them," which validates and reinforces leftist tactics that will be used against you later, or "I empathize with the mass shooter who killed children" which will be used against you right now because you sound like a fucking psychopath.

It's an extremely all or nothing mentality.
 
Nick's wet dream of being the head honcho of right-wing talking heads falls apart when you take a deeper look into his genius approach to "optics". It doesn't matter how many live viewers consisting of 20-something nu alt-righters watch his amateur political show. No normie conservative is going to support a rabble-rousing child that still lives with his parents, who's master plan is to send trolls out to Q&A's to whine and cry about how "No, WE'RE the REAL conservatives!" to a bunch of neo-cons who never actually supported "true conservatism" in the first place.
Whether you like it or not, the mainstream right will tolerate gayservatives, more legal immigrants, and Israel Firsters as long as Reagan/Trump-style tax cuts, low unemployment and the ever-elusive border wall stay on the table. Furthermore, the vast majority of the modern right see the alt-right in the same lens that they view Antifa and the far-left, and wouldn't be caught dead supporting anyone even thrice-removed from the absolute mess that was Charlottesville. The totally-not-a-pedo catboy thing is just the cherry on top of the shit sundae. Alienating everyone who genuinely supported Nick's traditionalist politics, leaving his remaining viewerbase full of exceptional NEETs who only watch AF for le ebin cookie jokes and based trolling,
Don't get me wrong, he'll still be around to collect chinese lemons from his peanut-brained audience, but no one will care what he has to say, and the groyper wars will be a footnote of a footnote in the history of American conservatism.

TBH, I don’t really care if Nick allows the occasional gay into his orbit. What really bothers me is that the cat boy’s name was “Loli Socks.” As far as I’m concerned, “loli” is CP. So is the “loli” in Loli Socks a reference to CP? And what exactly is a “cat boy?” Is that a pedo thing?
 
TBH, I don’t really care if Nick allows the occasional gay into his orbit. What really bothers me is that the cat boy’s name was “Loli Socks.” As far as I’m concerned, “loli” is CP. So is the “loli” in Loli Socks a reference to CP? And what exactly is a “cat boy?” Is that a pedo thing?
I'd assume if it isn't specifically a reference to CP, it's close enough to warrant a new name on a registry somewhere. Cat boys though... Maybe? A lot of drawings of these things seem to be depictions of adolescent boys, so I'll play it safe and say yes.
Light's green on this one, chief. Don't touch Fuentes, though, he's for later.
 
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TBH, I don’t really care if Nick allows the occasional gay into his orbit. What really bothers me is that the cat boy’s name was “Loli Socks.” As far as I’m concerned, “loli” is CP. So is the “loli” in Loli Socks a reference to CP? And what exactly is a “cat boy?” Is that a pedo thing?
Cat boys are literally cat boys. Also a lot of weebs use the term "loli" ironically.
 
Doesn't feel all that ironic when a token loli character is in almost every other show. Shit like this is why I slowly went from a fan to a person that despises anime.
I wouldn't say I despise anime as a whole, but yeah a lot of modern anime and manga is full of creepy shit. That element has been there for a long time because Japanese culture has some weird shit going on with the sexualization of minors, but it was way, way less prevalent back in the day.

What happened is that with the decline of advertising revenue and explosion of internet piracy a lot of mangaka and anime studios realized that instead of trying to get a large casual audience, the best way to turn a profit is to capture the NEET consoomer demographic who obsessively buy anime merch. A lot of shows make the bulk of their money off figurines, dakimakura and shit like that. Now think about the kind of weirdo who buys that shit and has walls and walls of it in their room. Most of them are weird incel pervert hentai addicts. These people are the most coveted demographic that anime and manga want to get as their audience right now due to their spending habits, so throwing the type of shit they like to fap to into shows to get their attention has become the norm. It also has created a culture of creators and fans that's far more self referential and insular, which Miyazaki himself complained about.

That's the reason for the abundance of fuckery in modern anime.
 
I wouldn't say I despise anime as a whole, but yeah a lot of modern anime and manga is full of creepy shit. That element has been there for a long time because Japanese culture has some weird shit going on with the sexualization of minors, but it was way, way less prevalent back in the day.

What happened is that with the decline of advertising revenue and explosion of internet piracy a lot of mangaka and anime studios realized that instead of trying to get a large casual audience, the best way to turn a profit is to capture the NEET consoomer demographic who obsessively buy anime merch. A lot of shows make the bulk of their money off figurines, dakimakura and shit like that. Now think about the kind of weirdo who buys that shit and has walls and walls of it in their room. Most of them are weird incel pervert hentai addicts. These people are the most coveted demographic that anime and manga want to get as their audience right now due to their spending habits, so throwing the type of shit they like to fap to into shows to get their attention has become the norm. It also has created a culture of creators and fans that's far more self referential and insular, which Miyazaki himself complained about.

That's the reason for the abundance of fuckery in modern anime.
I never really thought of fan service in that way but the more I think about it the more your right.
 
“Your waifu isn’t real, and if she was, she’d be a filthy nip whore” -Weev

Nick's wet dream of being the head honcho of right-wing talking heads falls apart when you take a deeper look into his genius approach to "optics". It doesn't matter how many live viewers consisting of 20-something nu alt-righters watch his amateur political show. No normie conservative is going to support a rabble-rousing child that still lives with his parents, who's master plan is to send trolls out to Q&A's to whine and cry about how "No, WE'RE the REAL conservatives!" to a bunch of neo-cons who never actually supported "true conservatism" in the first place.
Whether you like it or not, the mainstream right will tolerate gayservatives, more legal immigrants, and Israel Firsters as long as Reagan/Trump-style tax cuts, low unemployment and the ever-elusive border wall stay on the table. Furthermore, the vast majority of the modern right see the alt-right in the same lens that they view Antifa and the far-left, and wouldn't be caught dead supporting anyone even thrice-removed from the absolute mess that was Charlottesville. The totally-not-a-pedo catboy thing is just the cherry on top of the shit sundae. Alienating everyone who genuinely supported Nick's traditionalist politics, leaving his remaining viewerbase full of exceptional NEETs who only watch AF for le ebin cookie jokes and based trolling,
Don't get me wrong, he'll still be around to collect chinese lemons from his peanut-brained audience, but no one will care what he has to say, and the groyper wars will be a footnote of a footnote in the history of American conservatism.

Good optics is power, period. Basic bitch apolitical normies gravitate to power (REAL power, not embarrassing Cville goon marches), not ideas.

Nick’s optics are “Puh puh pwease let me into the party! I’ll wear a suit and won’t say nigger!” Nobody is attracted to that if they don’t agree with him already, it’s weak and bitchmade. He talks shit about beta male simps but what is that if not beta simping?

His desperation to be part of American “conservatism” (which conserves nothing by design) instead of creating something new is why he fails.
 
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Everyone on the right besides Trump seems to have this problem for some reason. It's either "I condemn these bad Nazis someone forwarded me a New York Times article about without doing any unbiased research into them," which validates and reinforces leftist tactics that will be used against you later, or "I empathize with the mass shooter who killed children" which will be used against you right now because you sound like a fucking psychopath.

It's an extremely all or nothing mentality.
You are supposed to say BOTH.

"I don't support these shootings but these shooters do have legitimatizes grievances. They don't want diversity, they don't want to become a minority in their neighborhood and they feel powerless to enact change through the system because the liberals marginalize their viewpoint as racist. So again I don't support these actions but these people do have legit graveness and domestic terrorism from muslims or whites or blacks is just part of daily life in a multiracial society. There will ALWAYS be people ON BOTH SIDES that dislike multiculturalism and will fight to achieve a neighborhood that looks like them, #selfdetermination."
 
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