The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

[friedshrimp]

i also noticed there a problem with modern Simpsons jokes, and it's this thing, they don't make fun/mock the thing so much as they celebrate it. the only mocking given is to their own characters. it's an example of modern Simpsons episodes, because back in the day they made fun of Disneyland, Michael Jackson, nuclear families, movie franchises, but now it's all "oooh isn't Lady Gaga so wonderful? And Elon Musk so smart? And WOW look at those avengers!"

the idea was to mock American society, you can't mock it when you're praising it.

 

[A Grey Cat]

i also noticed there a problem with modern Simpsons jokes, and it's this thing, they don't make fun/mock the thing so much as they celebrate it. the only mocking given is to their own characters. it's an example of modern Simpsons episodes, because back in the day they made fun of Disneyland, Michael Jackson, nuclear families, movie franchises, but now it's all "oooh isn't Lady Gaga so wonderful? And Elon Musk so smart? And WOW look at those avengers!"

the idea was to mock American society, you can't mock it when you're praising it.

Clearly the Simpsons have lived long enough to see themselves become their own worst enemy.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

i also noticed there a problem with modern Simpsons jokes, and it's this thing, they don't make fun/mock the thing so much as they celebrate it. the only mocking given is to their own characters. it's an example of modern Simpsons episodes, because back in the day they made fun of Disneyland, Michael Jackson, nuclear families, movie franchises, but now it's all "oooh isn't Lady Gaga so wonderful? And Elon Musk so smart? And WOW look at those avengers!"

the idea was to mock American society, you can't mock it when you're praising it.

And nowadays it's "Oh look, Ned's being overly religious again!" or "Homer's acting like a complete ass, let's poke fun at it!" Which I don't get one bit- if you're going to poke fun at your characters and their cliches (badly, I may add), then at least try to make fun of the people and things they're supposed to consume too.

And no, thinly-veiled swipes at Disney and the Bible don't count.

As for the parody. The thing comes off half-baked and reminds me more of the GoTG than it does Avengers more than anything, Though that's probably because one of them is a blatant "Groot by way of Poison Ivy" clone. Still don't know how they managed to convince Kevin Fiege to voice the Thanos ripoff either- he sounds like shit even compared to the Russos or the always dying Julie Kavner.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I just think of Zombie Simpsons as a different show that I don't care for. Like I said, to me The Simpsons ended with Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo, or at latest, Behind The Laughter.

"Ahh! Undo! Undo!"
"I was so gay... but I couldn't tell anyone."

- last lines of The (real) Simpsons

To me the final episode is Lisa's Wedding.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

To me the final episode is Lisa's Wedding.

That could've been a nice place to end it too. By season 10 there was already "Armin Tamzarian" and Milhouse's parents divorcing.

 

[Kornheiser]

Open up, Curly! This is raid!

 

[UnKillFill]

Sending you guys all my love...

 

[Doctor of Autism]

i also noticed there a problem with modern Simpsons jokes, and it's this thing, they don't make fun/mock the thing so much as they celebrate it. the only mocking given is to their own characters. it's an example of modern Simpsons episodes, because back in the day they made fun of Disneyland, Michael Jackson, nuclear families, movie franchises, but now it's all "oooh isn't Lady Gaga so wonderful? And Elon Musk so smart? And WOW look at those avengers!"

the idea was to mock American society, you can't mock it when you're praising it.

Yeah I feel this problem started when The Simpsons kept getting more celebrity guests voicing themselves instead of new characters where it became a celebration of celebrity culture.

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

That could've been a nice place to end it too. By season 10 there was already "Armin Tamzarian" and Milhouse's parents divorcing.

I'm one of those who will agree Armin was the jump the shark moments, although the show had always been highly flexible with reality here it just straight up told you it changed an established character completely, but forget about it after the credits. A Milhouse Divided is great though, and contains one of my all-time favourite Simpsons jokes.

Kirk Van Houten Gets Fired From The Cracker Factory

So that's it? so long, good luck?

www.youtube.com

 

[Jason Wynn]

I sleep in a racecar Homer, do you sleep in a racecar?

Nah, I sleep in a big bed next to my wife.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I'm one of those who will agree Armin was the jump the shark moments, although the show had always been highly flexible with reality here it just straight up told you it changed an established character completely, but forget about it after the credits. A Milhouse Divided is great though, and contains one of my all-time favourite Simpsons jokes.

Kirk Van Houten Gets Fired From The Cracker Factory

So that's it? so long, good luck?

www.youtube.com

I don't recalling saying good luck.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Season 10/11 had some leftover good episodes like Homer vs. NYC. But it's the point where an obvious change in writing quality is happening. They're both still enjoyable, but they're uneven as hell.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

A Milhouse Divided was still a good episode though.

There was also the "worthy of Webster's" gag.

 

[Bread Fetishist]

Season 10/11 had some leftover good episodes like Homer vs. NYC. But it's the point where an obvious change in writing quality is happening. They're both still enjoyable, but they're uneven as hell.

Actually NYC vs. Homer was from Season 9.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

They're both still enjoyable, but they're uneven as hell.

Trying to pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half moment when the show goes crap can be like trying to say when a rock is large enough to be a boulder. By around season 12, the show was pretty much pure Zombie Simpsons. I like to think of 10 as the end because it's a nice even number, and 11 is when Maude dies.

 

[Mr. Duck]

Curiously over here in latin america most people consider Season 16 onwards to be cutting off point, mainly because they changed the voice actors we had since Season 1 with a bunch of shitty imitators (Homer's voice got it for the worst), the quality decline was already noticeable but the VA change made it more abrupt.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

the VA change

[clearly different voice] "Plus they can replace them and no one can tell the diddly-ifference!"

 

[Syaoran Li]

Trying to pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half moment when the show goes crap can be like trying to say when a rock is large enough to be a boulder. By around season 12, the show was pretty much pure Zombie Simpsons. I like to think of 10 as the end because it's a nice even number, and 11 is when Maude dies.

Eh, I liked a lot of Seasons 11-13, and there were still plenty of good episodes in Seasons 14 and 15, while Season 16 was decent but not great.

For me, Zombie Simpsons isn't "anything that's not the show's Golden Age", but rather when the show becomes completely unwatchable.

If seasons 1-10 are the show's "Golden Age" then I say seasons 11-13 are more of a "Silver Age" that isn't as good as the first ten seasons but is still enjoyable and far preferable to Zombie Simpsons.

Seasons 14-17 serve as this weird transition period that bridges the gap between "Silver Age" and "Zombie Simpsons", with the transition being fully completed around the time of Season 18 and the movie.

If I had to pick a specific point for the start of Zombie Simpsons, it'd be everything after the movie, as that's a good event as any to serve as a benchmark and specific moment to end the show on.

Or if you want a season to end on, Season 15 is a good season as any to call it quits. It's the last time the show is still mostly watchable, even if the decline is starting to truly become visible and anything after that can be safely dismissed.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

If I had to pick a specific point for the start of Zombie Simpsons, it'd be everything after the movie[...]

I guess you're less picky than me then. The absence of Lionel Hutz, Troy McClure, and Maude really make everything after season 10 feel like a different show. Especially with the zanier plots.

But after the movie is when I think everyone who doesn't like Zombie Simpsons can see the show as objectively Zombie Simpsons.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I guess you're less picky than me then. The absence of Lionel Hutz, Troy McClure, and Maude really make everything after season 10 feel like a different show to me.

To be honest, I never really considered Maude's death to be that much of a deal breaker for the show like everyone else seems to and the loss of Lionel Hutz and Troy McClure was one of those things that couldn't be helped. If Phil Hartman was still alive, I'd wager that those characters would still be in the show and that Al Jean would find a way to ruin Hutz and McClure in that Zombie Simpsons sort of way.

To me, the show truly felt different and irreversibly changed with the movie. I always imagined a Simpsons movie to be like a grand series finale instead of what we got. After the movie, there were no enjoyable seasons and no really good moments like in the pre-movie seasons.