2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Polyboros2 said:
It's impossible to know, but it'd be very interesting to see how different things would of been had Iowa not been completely fucked up, and instead of a nobody glow in the dark mayor just barely having the lead(even at times with less votes), and getting all the press for winning. It's conspiratorial thinking I know, but lets say the Iowa caucus debacle was to fuck Bernie, had Iowa been a strong victory for him, followed by Nevada, and the press covered it with out bias, he may have gone into Super Tuesday with a lot of momentum that could of closed the gaps, or widened some of his victories.
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That's exactly what it was. Peter Fobbit's entire purpose in life was to trip up Bernie Sanders and then drop out. I think everyone knows that I hate Bernie but wow Pete. Total bitch move.
 
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Pedosnake said:
So, how fucked is Bernie now actually, So many say that he can still win
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Here are some factors going in his favor, which is why he isn't out of the race yet, but the question remains if it is enough:

1. As many people have pointed out, the progressive vote so far is larger than the vote for Biden, it was just split by Elizabeth Warren being a spoiler.
2. The Democratic party has been invaded by many Bernicrats who joined after being upset about how Bernie was screwed, becoming delegates or managing offices.
3. There is chaos and disarray, which can upset the establishment.
 
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I'm kind of amazed that the Democratic Party is trying the exact same strategy twice. Fuck over white/hispanic working class voters while preemptively counting them as sure votes in your favor on election day. Then, when Biden loses in November because those voters didn't bother to show up, CNN and MSNBC will blame it all on white supremacy and not on a terrible strategy that already failed before.
 
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I'm kind of amazed that the Democratic Party is trying the exact same strategy twice. Fuck over white/hispanic working class voters while preemptively counting them as sure votes in your favor on election day. Then, when Biden loses in November because those voters didn't bother to show up, CNN and MSNBC will blame it all on white supremacy and not on a terrible strategy that already failed before.
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I think they kinda know that they have no chance, so they try to push Biden instead of Sanders. Atleast when Biden loses, they still have the progressives leeching off, saying that "Bernie would've won." If Bernie loses (especially in a landslide) the illusion that Bernie is liked by everybody and everybody wants all that good free stuff will pop and everyone will REEE and will threaten to commit suicide (which they probably won't)
 
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kiwifarmsfan1 said:
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Here are some factors going in his favor, which is why he isn't out of the race yet, but the question remains if it is enough:

1. As many people have pointed out, the progressive vote so far is larger than the vote for Biden, it was just split by Elizabeth Warren being a spoiler.
2. The Democratic party has been invaded by many Bernicrats who joined after being upset about how Bernie was screwed, becoming delegates or managing offices.
3. There is chaos and disarray, which can upset the establishment.
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While thats true nationally, the biggest bernie supporting states already went. Again, the dnc werent stupid. They made sure the calendar hurt bernie. Bidens going to win the same way Obama fucked hilary in 08. Win big with blacks in the south on super Tuesday and then do well enough that she cant overtake him.
 
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Trump would still most likely win in 2020 if Bernie ran, however it would be a actual fight. It would be two polar opposite sides clashing instead of this centrist BS we have been having for the past....forever. We would finally truly know where America stands currently.

If/when Biden runs against Trump and gets on the debate stage it's over. It wouldn't be a fight, it would be bullying at best.

4 more years of Trump is inevitable.

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MidUSA said:
But wasn't Bidens 'moderate' base equally, if not more, split by Bloomberg?
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From what I've seen this is something that Bernie bros have consistently ignored. They also assume that all of Warren's base will transfer 100% into Bernie votes, despite social media interactions indicating that the two bases absolutely despise one another. I'd argue that Biden gains a larger percentage of Bloomberg's base than Bernie could hope to gain from Warren, and that Warren to Biden is also significantly larger than Bloomberg to Bernie.
 
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Pedosnake said:
So, how fucked is Bernie now actually, considering Super Tuesday has passed and he has been beaten in every state except his own and California?

So many say that he can still win
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He's in a terrible position. Biden didn't win by heavy campaigning, he beat Bernie in states he didn't even try in.

Bernie didn't need to come out on top on Super Tuesday, he needed to blow everyone out. Bernie always had to be working towards 51% of the delegates. Less than that and the Super Delegates were going to cuck him.

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So Bernie still has "a chance" because there are 2719 Delagates left, and if he gets 1468(53%) of them, he'll be the nominee.

Short of Biden dying(and even in that situation, Bernie may lose), there is little chance Bernie is going to get what he needs to keep the DNC from ratfucking him.
 

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2020Suicide said:
Its pretty amazing looking at the whole strategy of the DNC this entire election. They really tricked the berniebros. the DNC knew they couldn't just do a two way race like they did since after Clinton got elected, Bernie and his base would be ready for that, so instead they let everyone try out, hence the clown car, by letting everyone shoot their shot they overwhelm the defenses sort of like how you would overwhelm a ship's missle defenses. And at essentially the last second they let it drop down to just biden so that all the voters will have to chose between classic or socialist.

And you could tell by the way the DNC primary calendar was planned out that this was essentially the plan from the start, they knew Bernie's weakness with blacks and Biden's strength with them, so from South Carolina in February, until Kansas in May, every primary contest has at least one heavily black state which will basically fuck over any shot of momentum or spin Bernie could have until after 90% of delegates have been decided.

plus by having so many candidates on stage, they could effectively hide Biden much easier than they could Hillary, instead of having almost no debates with the star being attacked for 2 hours straight by the socialist, instead there were so many debates people were sick of them, and Biden essentially hid among the others, only getting 15 minutes of speaking time meaning his fuck ups weren't as pronounced as they would have been with everyone's eyes on him.

But the way the DNC essentially sprung the trap and destroyed Bernie outright was amazing, And the way things were set up. I guarantee you most of the "contestants" didn't realize they were part of the plan, until the end. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg knew, but he was a good patsy, one of the richest men in the world trying to play savior with his neo-liberal ways. That's catnip on crack for Bernie. Warren and Bernie were too focused on Bloomberg to even pay attention to the front-runner Biden, Biden was basically given the free pass hilary was, just under more concealment.

Plus Warren taking votes from Bernie in super tuesday. and Pete as essentially the DNC's hitman, doing all the attacking and taking all the fights that Biden should have been doing. Biden essentially got to play the nice guy in a clown car full of belligerent assholes. And the DNC through the careful placement of the calendar and a few candidates on the inside basically proved to Bernie why you should be a part of a fucking political party.

TL;DR It was rigged from the start. they made the calendar dogshit for bernie and great for biden, and had warren run against him, put a billionaire (or two) up for the socialists to focus their rage on and had a young upstart playing heel to force the attention off of the golden boy.

TL;DR TL;DR The outcome was decided before 2019 began, don't fuck with the party
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It is quite amazing when you look at the accusations of ratfucking Bernie that were thrown around.
First big one was in Iowa from "Mayor Cheat" and the absolute cock up that occured from that. Everyone thought this glow in the dark gay man with an unpronounceable Maltese name was the DNC pick after Biden fell. Throwing up allegations of corruption and how Shadow was run by people who supported him.
Then it was Bloomberg coming in, the DNC changing rules to allow this billionaire who flooded America with ads and outspending everyone. This is the guy they now want in and he's everything Bernie is against.
Then it was Pete and Klobuchar for dropping out and throwing support behind Biden.
Then came Warren for stealing Bernie's votes and staying longer than she should have.
It's literally everyones fault except Sleepy Joe or Bernie's. If this was a coronation of Biden like they initially planned, it has to be the most well disguised one. Berniebros are yelling at everyone, including black people for not knowing what's good for them for giving the nomination to someone who everyone wrote off. If 2016 was the Dems showing their cards too early, this was them holding it tight until the last minute.
 
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Honest Coyote said:
If anyone has experience: How fast does dementia worsen? What should we expect Biden to look like come November?
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Like all medical questions and answers it depends.

First we would have to know what type he has, is it Alzheimer's , LBD. or something else? How long has it been since he first started showing symptoms?

So if he has it really bad, which it appears he does he could be in much worse shape come November, or he could be at the same stage. It can take months to over a decade for dementia to progress depending on a bunch of factors.

The fact that someone would vote for him is fucking terrifying. Say what you want about Bernie, but at least his bad decisions would be cognitive. If sleepy Joe ever became president at this point he would be a puppet for someone else.

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Joe Biden says we can only re-elect Donald Trump.

I agree, Joe.

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Trump should run this in a campaign ad and go "I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message"


EDIT: Oh and I bet the stress from a job like the POTUS would help make the dementia worsen even more quickly.
 
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