Snowflake shoe0nhead / June Lapine / June La Porta & Armoured Skeptic / Gregory "Greg" Fluhrer - A poor man's Boxxy: rejected by Vaush, disowned by /pol/ for burning coal, sleeps in a dog's bed surrounded by trash, and her ex-boyfriend.

[Absolutego]

Are the Bear couple and like, Vernaculis the only skeptics who haven't gone off the deep end

Vern's definitely gone off the deep end, it's just the "I'm a novelist, check out my existential angst!" kind of deep end instead of the myopic political commentator type.

 

[Pikapool]

Yeah shoe who do they think they are Bernie voters

 

[b0o0pinsn0o0tz]

Why do I have a feeling she purposefully left out Biden voters that said, "He's less shit than Bernie"? I suspect that covers half of them even if they're too nice to say it in public.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Bernie has been on record saying that not only will he fully endorse Biden if he wins the nomination, but that he'll drop out if Biden gets plurality going into the Convention.

In my opinion, it sounds like Bernie has already given up. He's already folded like oragami paper, just like he did in 2016 for Hillary. And in my opinion, I think it's despicable of him to keep accepting donations at this point after talking like he's already lost.

For someone who is so "anti-establishment," Bernie certainly folds for the establishment when push comes to shove. Every time.

What does Shoe have to say about this? Between Bernie's actions at the end of his 2016 campaign and now with history repeating itself, it's difficult for me to not think that Bernie is some kind of bullshit artist who has found his niche at becoming a professional candidate and nothing else. He's become a multi-millionaire from becoming a Presidential candidate that loses.

 

[Tanner Glass]

Bernie has been on record saying that not only will he fully endorse Biden if he wins the nomination, but that he'll drop out if Biden gets plurality going into the Convention.

In my opinion, it sounds like Bernie has already given up. He's already folded like oragami paper, just like he did in 2016 for Hillary. And in my opinion, I think it's despicable of him to keep accepting donations at this point after talking like he's already lost.

For someone who is so "anti-establishment," Bernie certainly folds for the establishment when push comes to shove. Every time.

The donations are the only reason Bernie is still in it in the first place, "No refunds".

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

What does Shoe have to say about this?

Glad you asked!

Here are a couple of points:
1) In previous videos Shoe has been quick to lump Tulsi Gabbard, Andrew Yang and Bernie Sanders together (calling them "the three amigos" at one point, claiming that they were the only people who won the debate at another). Now, she has a chance to reference "anti-establishment" candidates, and what does she say? She talks about Bernie, she talks about Tulsi, and then she says "anyone who runs against the establishment". She is salty as FUCK about Andrew Yang defending Elizabeth Warren and it is priceless.

2) Shoe admits that the "neoliberal Voltron", as she called it, worked. For reference:

june on Twitter

“not even the neoliberal voltron could save them this time”

twitter.com

I don't have time to sift through her Twitter all the way back to Iowa, but she was complaining that the media was putting all the moderates together to fight against Sanders, saying "I didn't know the Dems could run three candidates at once!" Then in the last video she said "well, it doesn't matter if these people drop out because for a lot of them, Sanders was their second choice anyway".

And that cracking sound you just heard was the election results taking a big chair-shaped chunk of reality and breaking it over June's skull. Because they were right. Everyone who has been saying that the moderates were united and that all Biden needed was for people to get behind him were right. No one likes Sanders. Policy doesn't matter. No one is cheating this time, Sanders just isn't popular. They think Sanders is like a left wing Trump. But Trump has 92% approval among Republicans. Sanders is barely 30% or something.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Glad you asked!

Here are a couple of points:
1) In previous videos Shoe has been quick to lump Tulsi Gabbard, Andrew Yang and Bernie Sanders together (calling them "the three amigos" at one point, claiming that they were the only people who won the debate at another). Now, she has a chance to reference "anti-establishment" candidates, and what does she say? She talks about Bernie, she talks about Tulsi, and then she says "anyone who runs against the establishment". She is salty as FUCK about Andrew Yang defending Elizabeth Warren and it is priceless.

2) Shoe admits that the "neoliberal Voltron", as she called it, worked. For reference:

june on Twitter

“not even the neoliberal voltron could save them this time”

twitter.com

I don't have time to sift through her Twitter all the way back to Iowa, but she was complaining that the media was putting all the moderates together to fight against Sanders, saying "I didn't know the Dems could run three candidates at once!" Then in the last video she said "well, it doesn't matter if these people drop out because for a lot of them, Sanders was their second choice anyway".

And that cracking sound you just heard was the election results taking a big chair-shaped chunk of reality and breaking it over June's skull. Because they were right. Everyone who has been saying that the moderates were united and that all Biden needed was for people to get behind him were right. No one likes Sanders. Policy doesn't matter. No one is cheating this time, Sanders just isn't popular. They think Sanders is like a left wing Trump. But Trump has 92% approval among Republicans. Sanders is barely 30% or something.

So she now views "Neo-Libs" as "Centrists"? Wew lad, that's certainly a take. Anyway ...

She can blame the "Neo-Lib Voltron" all she wants on Super Tuesday, but Jesus Christ ... So many Democrat voters were undecided up until they voted. If Bernie was SUCH a unifier, a visionary, and just a flat-out great candidate, then why were so many voters undecided before Super Tuesday?

Look at Trump in 2016: The media and the GOP were against him. The fix was supposedly "in" for Jeb Bush. Welp, Trump, being the hardheaded, bombastic, and "bull in the china shop" kind of person he is, insisted on talking about the issues that actually spoke to the voters, and he easily won the nomination (and then, the Presidency). If Bernie was so great, then these elections should be a cakewalk for him, yes?

June's explanation of "lol normies who are voting" are to blame. Nah, June: Before Super Tuesday, Comrade Bernie spent his time double downing on his praises towards Fidel Castro. It really shed a light on his shitty-ass ideas to your working class voters, and it turned them off. Bernie sucks so hard that people voted for a dementia patient over him. Plain and simple. Even in Bernie's home state, there was significantly less enthusiasm for him compared to 2016.

She keeps blaming Bernie's failed campaigns on everything other than Bernie. "It was the DNC Voltron that did it! And also low information voters! And the news media! And the billionaires! And even ManBearPig!"

Maybe Bernie is getting his ass handed to him because he's decided to make his platform economic when the economy is better than it has been in decades (Corona Virus notwithstanding, of course)? Maybe supporting open borders and the Green New Deal are things that are simply insane and wildly unpopular? Maybe refusing to give out numbers on how much his plans will cost waves a HUGE red flag to any voter with functioning brain cells?

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Glad you asked!

Here are a couple of points:
1) In previous videos Shoe has been quick to lump Tulsi Gabbard, Andrew Yang and Bernie Sanders together (calling them "the three amigos" at one point, claiming that they were the only people who won the debate at another). Now, she has a chance to reference "anti-establishment" candidates, and what does she say? She talks about Bernie, she talks about Tulsi, and then she says "anyone who runs against the establishment". She is salty as FUCK about Andrew Yang defending Elizabeth Warren and it is priceless.

2) Shoe admits that the "neoliberal Voltron", as she called it, worked. For reference:

june on Twitter

“not even the neoliberal voltron could save them this time”

twitter.com

I don't have time to sift through her Twitter all the way back to Iowa, but she was complaining that the media was putting all the moderates together to fight against Sanders, saying "I didn't know the Dems could run three candidates at once!" Then in the last video she said "well, it doesn't matter if these people drop out because for a lot of them, Sanders was their second choice anyway".

And that cracking sound you just heard was the election results taking a big chair-shaped chunk of reality and breaking it over June's skull. Because they were right. Everyone who has been saying that the moderates were united and that all Biden needed was for people to get behind him were right. No one likes Sanders. Policy doesn't matter. No one is cheating this time, Sanders just isn't popular. They think Sanders is like a left wing Trump. But Trump has 92% approval among Republicans. Sanders is barely 30% or something.

Who coped better, June or TYT?

 

[Brutalist]

It's honestly been fascinating watching Shoe go from dull but somewhat reasonable to ideologically possessed, despite her arguably long term exposure to politics. I genuinely can't believe this isn't her first election.
Most people experience the sort of disappointment she's going through once at around fifteen years of age, when their favorite politician proves to not be the shining hero of justice they expected him to be. But with Bernie, what we're seeing is an almost perfect repeat of last cycle. How do you fall for it harder the second god-damn time?

And as for the video, you need to be on levels of cope that border on psychosis to believe what she's saying. "The boomers were lied to, that's why they didn't side with us! It has nothing to do with my candidate's overly unpopular ideas and fondness for failed regimes!"
Not that it's completely wrong, but it certainly is only half the story, and a perfect example of the berniebro victim complex that cost them so dearly.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Shoe's politics are progressively becoming this meme, unironically:

I give it one more election cycle before we see this. If she thinks that the current state of the DNC is "moderate," then it won't take long for her to start calling anyone remotely right of her a fascist eventually.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I watched Shoe's video earlier on the way home and I wanted to punch someone, seriously.

Shoe, I know I've said this before, but I'm gonna say it again: you. are. an. IDIOT.

"Oh, noes, the normies, the normies!"

Yes, Shoe, we get it. Everybody's a normie except you and your boyf-- I mean, fiance, Only you both know how sex works and only you both understand politics. How those awful normies dare to have political opinions that aren't discussed on the twitter with memes and videos?

You moronic kid, the "normies" are the ordinary working class. The ones that keep saying the Democratic party does not represent them anymore. They might not know fancy words, but they probably understand well what Socialism is because I'm sure many of them know a Cuban or have seen news of Venezuela.

"These people aren't involved in politics!"... NO. They are, but they don't do it in the way YOU do it, profiting from it by making 10m videos and selling US$20 low effort mugs to buy their boyfr- I mean, fiance, Star Wars toys while still living in mom and dad's home. They understand that voting for someone who is promising an economical reform that sides with every country that has become bankrupted is something they do not want. They know that the guy who said "LOL, FIDEL CASTRO DID NOTHING WRONG" is a bad idea. They know that they want the economy to remain the same or improve.

And that's the thing with Biden. Do I like him? No. But he's gonna keep the economy EXACTLY THE SAME. And ordinary common folks know it. The "normies" you hate so much, Shoe aren't your audience. You're audience is only 1M people with enough time to sperg in your commients. Normies have jobs, normies watch TV, normies read newspaper, and normies have normal lives. They don't have to "understand" politics, they live in it, you bitch.

Yes, rate me MATI, I don't care.

 

[rocknrollmartian]

Shoe's politics are progressively becoming this meme, unironically:

I give it one more election cycle before we see this. If she thinks that the current state of the DNC is "moderate," then it won't take long for her to start calling anyone remotely right of her a fascist eventually.

She sort of already has. That's why she publicly/awkwardly cut ties with Lauren Southern a few years ago, to distance herself from "fascists." She's constantly shouting that she's a Bernie bitch who hates "the Establishment" these days, and Bernie's platform is barely more than love and hope and Robin Hood LARPing fantasies.

 

[Niggernerd]

Shoe is just like Chunk and other progressive far lefties. Sanders barely got fucked by the DNC it was his own idiotic stances. Best thing to do before Florida is idk not praise Fidel and call Israel a authoritarian apartheid. Florida's majority populace are cubans and jews.
It's even more telling when Sweden,Denmark etc have to tell Bernie and his cult "STOP CALLING US SOCIALIST AND YOU'RE TOO FAR LEFT"
She and others just can't understand people outside of their echochamber hate him and socialism. It's less of Bernie being a threat to THE establishment but democracy itself because muh cuban literacy programs

 

[Y2K Baby]

Israel a authoritarian apartheid.

Based Sanders.

 

[Niggernerd]

Based Sanders.

Being based cost him Florida.

 

[Spiteful Crow]

Is Sh0e starting to understand the relationship between the Trump-Russia lies and the Sanders smears? Notice I said smears because Sanders definitely loves him some Russia.

Probably not. There seemed to be a moment of recognition while she was discussing Jill Stein but I doubt that this dim bulb will have any illumination.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Being based cost him Florida.

Such is the nature of being based.

 

[ignoramus]

Bernie has been on record saying that not only will he fully endorse Biden if he wins the nomination, but that he'll drop out if Biden gets plurality going into the Convention.

In my opinion, it sounds like Bernie has already given up. He's already folded like oragami paper, just like he did in 2016 for Hillary. And in my opinion, I think it's despicable of him to keep accepting donations at this point after talking like he's already lost.

For someone who is so "anti-establishment," Bernie certainly folds for the establishment when push comes to shove. Every time.

What does Shoe have to say about this? Between Bernie's actions at the end of his 2016 campaign and now with history repeating itself, it's difficult for me to not think that Bernie is some kind of bullshit artist who has found his niche at becoming a professional candidate and nothing else. He's become a multi-millionaire from becoming a Presidential candidate that loses.

This. The "Bernie is not even a Democrat!" attack line from his centrist opponents becomes even sadder when he endorses establishment Dems who hate him. If you're going to cultivate this reputation as a radical outsider trying to shake up the system, you might as well live up to that reputation.

Contrast his behaviour with Mélenchon in the 2017 French presidential election. He refused to endorse Macron in the run-off against Le Pen, and did not advise any of his supporters to vote for either candidate. His only clairification was that he wasn't going to vote for Le Pen, which is a blatant call for abstention or a spoiled ballot (and a lot of his voters took the cue, because 4 million votes were cast either blank or spoiled, and a further 1.5 million people abstained compared to the first round).

 

[Doctor Placebo]

This. The "Bernie is not even a Democrat!" attack line from his centrist opponents becomes even sadder when he endorses establishment Dems who hate him. If you're going to cultivate this reputation as a radical outsider trying to shake up the system, you might as well live up to that reputation.

Contrast his behaviour with Mélenchon in the 2017 French presidential election. He refused to endorse Macron in the run-off against Le Pen, and did not advise any of his supporters to vote for either candidate. His only clairification was that he wasn't going to vote for Le Pen, which is a blatant call for abstention or a spoiled ballot (and a lot of his voters took the cue, because 4 million votes were cast either blank or spoiled, and a further 1.5 million people abstained compared to the first round).

Sounds like Melenchon isn't a cuck, unlike Bernie, who made it clear he is in the 2016 election when the DNC far more blatantly screwed him during the primary and he still bowed to Qween Hillary.

Although to be fair, from what I understand Le Pen is actually quite left leaning economically and is really only considered far right because she wants to do something about the tide of Islamic immigrants pouring into France. Such is the nature of current European politics that anything short of open borders policy makes someone far right. So Melenchon may find Le Pen less objectionable than he'll ever let on publicly.

 

[Based Papa John]

I really am beginning to believe that Bernie is just a scam artist. He has no path to the nomination barring a miracle tonight, and he is still taking contributions.

What should frustrate Shoe and other Bernie Brainlets is Bernie's tepid attacks against Biden, if he attacks him at all. The Bidens have a long history of corruption and lying. There is a reason why we did not have President Biden thirty years ago because of his resume padding and outright plagiarism. The Burisma ordeal is the tip of the iceberg. History has granted Bernie (and Trump) a proverbial arsenal of oppo and skeletons in closets that would destroy Biden's chances in a fair fight. Yet, Bernie doesn't use it. At all. On top of that, he disavows surrogates who try to do it for him. It seems that Bernie is trying to lose all the while stringing along his supporters with false hope that he has even a sliver a chance. I'd say Bernie will stay in the race for a few more weeks before dropping out, just enough that he can get his fourth mansion.

Congratulations, Shoe. You just cucked by not one, but two loser grifters.