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People with Pre-X know they are diabetic, or have cancer or are TB survivors or whatever. Why not push the responsibility on them, to self-quarantine? I mean I think that we have established that this is not the bubonic plague ... it DOES discriminate.

Plus not everybody can quarantine, to save their sick relatives. But sick relatives can quarantine themselves. Right?

A lot of those people will be receiving outpatient care which requires them to leave home frequently. Their need for chemotherapy, radiotherapy, or dialysis isn't diminished just because there's a bug potentially lethal to them going around.

Most people I know who are at increased risk are already leaving their homes as little as possible, but for many that can never be not at all.
 
This is how my country is responding to Wu Flu. FUCKING TELETUBBIES !!!View attachment 1181792
That's to tell them apart.

Yeah, speaking as someone that used to wear the various flavors of hazmat suits (or as we thought of ourselves "pre-bagged, ready for disposal") That's actually a fucking brilliant idea. Our suits used to be color coded by type/rating. White was crap, yellow serious and blue was the "Good God we're all fucked" really really bad shit suit. Which was fine, until more than one person had to put them on. And it became a royal pain for the command officers to keep track of who was who while staying at a safe distance. As stupid as the teletubies suits look at a glance, they are absolutely brilliant for an actual emergency scene, and I commend whoever thought them up. The only change I would make is use a color other than dark blue. Because sometimes shit happens at night.
 
A question. Why toilet paper? In the US it's one of those things that we make here so no worries about imports. This bug doesn't give you the shits. The distribution system is intact. Paper mills still chugging along. Trees still growing and being made into pulp.

What a weird thing to hoard.

It's the result of a kneejerk panic response and bad information.

The TP thing started with misinformation passed around in Australia that toilet paper was maufactured in China and thus would run out. Untrue, Oz makes its own, generally. Once mass panic sets in though, people don't listen to reason or facts.

The media reported heavily on the hysteria a world away without making the point people were acting on bad information and now people in multiple other countries are convinced that, because some people are pancking and hoarding TP, they should too. There is literally zero thought going into this, just dumb animal panic.

I went to my local Lidl last night and the whole aisle waas stripped bare. There was a pile of multipack TP elsewhere in the store with a 'Get It While You Can!' sign posted prominently above it. The pasta was mysteriously depeleted too. No other food item, just that. Funny, the papers have been reporting in the same way on pasta as TP too. Nothing much else was gone apart from the usual lack of hand gel and depleted liquid soap. Bar soap still there aplenty. I guess if the media were to report a panic on bar soap, suddenly that would become the musthave item too.

People can be fucking stupid.
 
A question. Why toilet paper? In the US it's one of those things that we make here so no worries about imports. This bug doesn't give you the shits. The distribution system is intact. Paper mills still chugging along. Trees still growing and being made into pulp.

What a weird thing to hoard.
People are just hoarding stuff because other people are doing it. There was a comment somewhere in this massive thread where some customer literally said as much to a guy. I didn't get the hand sanitizer thing either; you can wash your hands or spray rubbing alcohol, but for some reason people decided it has to be hand sanitizer. Now they are fucking making their own just to have hand sanitizer. How much hand sanitizer could you possibly need? It's useful for public space but you don't need gallons of it in your house
A couple of weeks ago I took a look at things I use regularly that either are or I suspect parts of are made in China and hoarded that stuff.
 
People are just hoarding stuff because other people are doing it. There was a comment somewhere in this massive thread where some customer literally said as much to a guy. I didn't get the hand sanitizer thing either; you can wash your hands or spray rubbing alcohol, but for some reason people decided it has to be hand sanitizer. Now they are fucking making their own just to have hand sanitizer. How much hand sanitizer could you possibly need? It's useful for public space but you don't need gallons of it in your house
A couple of weeks ago I took a look at things I use regularly that either are or I suspect parts of are made in China and hoarded that stuff.
It's the result of a kneejerk panic response and bad information.

The TP thing started with misinformation passed around in Australia that toilet paper was maufactured in China and thus would run out. Untrue, Oz makes its own, generally. Once mass panic sets in though, people don't listen to reason or facts.

The media reported heavily on the hysteria a world away without making the point people were acting on bad information and now people in multiple other countries are convinced that, because some people are pancking and hoarding TP, they should too. There is literally zero thought going into this, just dumb animal panic.

I went to my local Lidl last night and the whole aisle waas stripped bare. There was a pile of multipack TP elsewhere in the store with a 'Get It While You Can!' sign posted prominently above it. The pasta was mysteriously depeleted too. No other food item, just that. Funny, the papers have been reporting in the same way on pasta as TP too. Nothing much else was gone apart from the usual lack of hand gel and depleted liquid soap. Bar soap still there aplenty. I guess if the media were to report a panic on bar soap, suddenly that would become the musthave item too.

People can be fucking stupid.
Seems like people are indeed very dumb. I mean, I get the responses that "everything is made in China" but they actually believe that everything is made in China. That trade is a two way street and the rest of the world has massive surpluses of things (paper products from North America being one) that we send over there in exchange for their rubber dogshit is completely lost on them.
 
Seems like people are indeed very dumb. I mean, I get the responses that "everything is made in China" but they actually believe that everything is made in China. That trade is a two way street and the rest of the world has massive surpluses of things (paper products from North America being one) that we send over there in exchange for their rubber dogshit is completely lost on them.

I think the funniest is people panic buying giant 25 and 50 lb bags of rice, even though they maybe eat rice once a month. Like, if you would never eat this normally, why would you buy enough for a Japanese family to stay supplied for weeks? At least think a tiny bit about your purchases.
 
The obvious thinking is “do I have enough for me and my whole family to survive a two or three week quarantine that confines us to the house that could come without warning “
As for the TP, Australia isn’t actually fully self sufficient, there’s about 20% imported IIRC
 
The obvious thinking is “do I have enough for me and my whole family to survive a two or three week quarantine that confines us to the house that could come without warning “
As for the TP, Australia isn’t actually fully self sufficient, there’s about 20% imported IIRC

I've noticed that a few official sources are now telling people who are particularly at risk that it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy some extra essentials.

Even though the initial panic buying was stupid and for no reason, it's not a bad idea at this point for households to look at what they already have on hand and think about adding enough to get them a few days past their usual next shopping period in case they can't get to the shops themselves or available delivery dates keep blowing out.

I have family who can bring me stuff if need be, but there already seems to be planning happening for how essentials can be provided to the housebound if that becomes necessary.

I think the funniest is people panic buying giant 25 and 50 lb bags of rice, even though they maybe eat rice once a month. Like, if you would never eat this normally, why would you buy enough for a Japanese family to stay supplied for weeks? At least think a tiny bit about your purchases.

I don't eat a lot of rice or pasta so what's already in the cupboard would last me weeks. I've been buying additional freezer stuff. I will probably start buying a little long life m.ilk each time I go to the shops now, but any scenario in which I'm confined for more than a couple of weeks would involve me being in hospital so stockpiling a large amount of food is pointless.
 
The obvious thinking is “do I have enough for me and my whole family to survive a two or three week quarantine that confines us to the house that could come without warning “
As for the TP, Australia isn’t actually fully self sufficient, there’s about 20% imported IIRC
That still doesn't make much sense. Why hoard rice and not flour or cornmeal or some other grain product? Food is food in an emergency situation, no?
The panic seems to be centered around things they think come from China. They, if I am reading this right, assumed their imported asswipe comes from China and not some papermill in Arkansas or wherever. Imports=China, because dumb.

Maybe the WHO has a point about deemphasizing the origins of the virus thing. It's causing people to hoard in strange unpredictable ways and fucking up distribution.
 
We have an outbreak of some odd virus every other year it seems like. This is like all the others, save for the media causing a bit more panic than usual.


I would say that one very big factor this time around is the impact of social media. With SARS and swine flu, we didn't have twitter and facebook constantly at our fingertips, and tubers were not yet a thing in the scale they are now. Had this happened some ten or fifteen years ago I guess most of us wouldn't have even noticed.

It's a really double-edged sword. On the one hand it's good to have more information, but on the other hand completely irrational panic spreads like a wildfire nowadays. I'm quite sure that after this is over, the rulers of the world will restrict the freedom of expression in social media to prevent this from happening again.
 
People are just hoarding stuff because other people are doing it. There was a comment somewhere in this massive thread where some customer literally said as much to a guy. I didn't get the hand sanitizer thing either; you can wash your hands or spray rubbing alcohol, but for some reason people decided it has to be hand sanitizer. Now they are fucking making their own just to have hand sanitizer. How much hand sanitizer could you possibly need? It's useful for public space but you don't need gallons of it in your house
A couple of weeks ago I took a look at things I use regularly that either are or I suspect parts of are made in China and hoarded that stuff.

My personal favorite is in addition to calling out the National Guard to round up all the Jews, New Yorks Governor Cuomo has also instituted an emergency policy of using Prison Slave Labor to make Hand Sanitizer for the states citizens (Now with 75% more Semen!). I mean I'm trying not to go full Godwin here, but he ain't making it easy.
 
My personal favorite is in addition to calling out the National Guard to round up all the Jews, New Yorks Governor Cuomo has also instituted an emergency policy of using Prison Slave Labor to make Hand Sanitizer for the states citizens (Now with 75% more Semen!). I mean I'm trying not to go full Godwin here, but he ain't making it easy.

Some of the US responses seem really bizarre. I'm waiting for our own equivalent stupidity to start.
 
I've noticed that a few official sources are now telling people who are particularly at risk that it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy some extra essentials.

Well yes. Please do make sure your 85 year old mother has enough supplies to stay at home as much as possible for awhile. Make sure she has a 90 day supply of critical medications, enough basic essentials to not need many if any trips to teh Supermarket, and keep her the hell away from Bingo until at least June.
 
Coronavirus Conference Gets Canceled Because of Coronavirus

By David Welch

March 10, 2020, 5:11 PM EDT

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Photographer: Victor J. Blue/Bloomberg

So much for keeping business rolling during the coronavirus pandemic.

The Council on Foreign Relations has canceled a roundtable called “Doing Business Under Coronavirus” scheduled for Friday in New York due to the spread of the infection itself. CFR has also canceled other in-person conferences that were scheduled from March 11 to April 3, including roundtables in New York and Washington and national events around the U.S.

The CFR’s confabs are joining a long list of canceled or postponed gatherings, including the annual New York auto show. The Greater New York Automobile Dealers Association said Tuesday that the car show will be rescheduled to late August.

Events in metro New York are coming under close scrutiny due to an increase in cases in the city and, in particular, an outbreak in the suburb of New Rochelle. The National Guard will be sent to the town to help close public gathering spaces in an effort to slow the spread of the outbreak, Governor Andrew Cuomo said at a press conference.

Across the U.S., the spread of the novel virus has so far scuttled more than 50 major corporate events with an estimated attendance of almost 1 million people, according to data collected by Bloomberg News.
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I would say that one very big factor this time around is the impact of social media. With SARS and swine flu, we didn't have twitter and facebook constantly at our fingertips, and tubers were not yet a thing in the scale they are now. Had this happened some ten or fifteen years ago I guess most of us wouldn't have even noticed.

It's a really double-edged sword. On the one hand it's good to have more information, but on the other hand completely irrational panic spreads like a wildfire nowadays. I'm quite sure that after this is over, the rulers of the world will restrict the freedom of expression in social media to prevent this from happening again.
I saw this meme and it made me chuckle.
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