Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[fuckass]

panic is bad. having a plan for if shit goes bad is good. if you're stocking up at the store when the panic'ers hit, congrats you're exposing yourself to crowds and that's a bad idea.

the best you can do right now is have enough food to survive 1-2 month quarantine. have medicine and protective equipment in case you need to care for a sick family member. if you live in a city consider staying with relatives or friends in a more rural area for a month or two if possible. clean all hard surfaces you're exposed to -- door handles, toilet switches, cell phones, keyboards etc. take it with a grain of salt but my epidemiologist friend seems to think hard surfaces are the #1 risk and airborne is behind it. i was advised to wear a mask in public and/or chew on zinc tablets. even the wrong kind of mask, a bandana, any physical barrier helps to an extent. a week ago everyone was looking at me weird for wearing masks in public, now everyone in my city is either wearing one or wish they bought some before the global shortage hit. with everything going down in italy and all the talk of deploying the national guard to nyc/seattle i would recommend buying a gun if you live in an urban area.

some of it may sound a bit rediculous, but looking at what's happening around the world, there's a very real chance the same may come to your city if you live in a populated urban area.

be cool, calm collected. don't panic. but be prepared for when everyone else panics. it might not happen but there's a very real chance it could, and you don't want to be caught with your pants down once the brainlets and normies enter panic mode.

Thing is, this ain't gonna be some cutesie little one or two month quarantine. The shit has been fucked. A lot of people are going to die until a vaccine is created and that's the simple truth. A lot of doctors are boomers, and as we saw in China, age and health doesn't matter if you're around enough people with the shit. We're bound to witness our world's doctors die, triage will fuck over the hospitals and we're gonna experience the virus circulate even after the curve has been flattened. Once the month or so of food and shit has been consumed get ready to enjoy rations from your local national guard.

 

[FaramirG]

The higher rates in males probably have 2 causes. One, males have substantially more lung capacity. Simply bigger lungs with more surface area. Thus more available and exposed receptors for the virus to attack.

Second is we are still looking at data heavily skewed by China. Chinese men smoke like chimneys.

Also don't men in China significantly outnumber women? Also men are more likely to be doctors, bus drivers, etc., more likely to be exposed to lots of people who might be sick.

 

[Iuz]

Something that just occurred to me. If you are going to buy a gun in the US, you might want to do it ASAP. If the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) system goes down due to staffing issues, you are not going to be able to purchase a firearm from a dealer.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong , but that how things work these days, right?

Depends on the State. Colorado for instance uses their own system which interfaces if I'm not mistaken.

And even then I think they have to proceed with the sale if they don't receive a responce or disqualifying information after 3 days.

 

[Reverend]

Something that just occurred to me. If you are going to buy a gun in the US, you might want to do it ASAP. If the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) system goes down due to staffing issues, you are not going to be able to purchase a firearm from a dealer.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong , but that how things work these days, right?

You make 'friends' with gun owners, then when they die you loot their bodies. This is how it's done, you just don't teabag them though, no homo on corpses.

Thing is, this ain't gonna be some cutesie little one or two month quarantine. The shit has been fucked. A lot of people are going to die until a vaccine is created and that's the simple truth. A lot of doctors are boomers, and as we saw in China, age and health doesn't matter if you're around enough people with the shit. We're bound to witness our world's doctors die, triage will fuck over the hospitals and we're gonna experience the virus circulate even after the curve has been flattened. Once the month or so of food and shit has been consumed get ready to enjoy rations from your local national guard.

There is no vaccine for the flu, there hasn't been and I doubt there ever will be one. This virus/bacteria is far too...mutable to have a 'cure' for. An easement of the symptoms though yes, that's possible.

Also don't men in China significantly outnumber women? Also men are more likely to be doctors, bus drivers, etc., more likely to be exposed to lots of people who might be sick.

And more men smoke because it's cheaper to give your populace calming products dirt cheap regardless if it kills them as there is always more of people when they die.

 

[mr.moon1488]

The higher rates in males probably have 2 causes. One, males have substantially more lung capacity. Simply bigger lungs with more surface area. Thus more available and exposed receptors for the virus to attack.

Second is we are still looking at data heavily skewed by China. Chinese men smoke like chimneys.

It could also be the fact that the Chinkroach government is using the virus as an opportunity to fix their gender distribution problem which was caused by their one child policy. I mean it wouldn't be too hard to just say "chicks get first priority at treatment."

 

[Radical Cadre]

I went out this morning to buy some bacon, all wrapped up because I don't feel 100%. Got my bacon without any trouble and went home.

Two hours later my district was closed. It's here, they're shutting everything down.

Currently hearing reports from friends in the same district that stores are completely packed. Lines of over an hour to get food. Most shelves being cleaned out unless they are useless items nobody wants. Everyone is anxious and I heard about at least one screaming match over a case of water.

Everything was reasonably normal this morning. At least I have a bunch of bacon.

 

[Computer Boy]

Mark did a video on coronavirus.

I'm not listening to a guy who loudly screams at poorly made flash creatures just to entertain his autistic fanbase of 12 year olds.

 

[KittyGremlin]

Bumfights season two: primate boogaloo

 

[forums poster wow]

Something that just occurred to me. If you are going to buy a gun in the US, you might want to do it ASAP. If the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) system goes down due to staffing issues, you are not going to be able to purchase a firearm from a dealer.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong , but that how things work these days, right?

if you can't get a gun for whatever reason (background check system shuts down in america, or you simply live somewhere they're illegal) get a crossbow (simple and intuitive to use) or even a small compound bow (requires practice.) if you're worried about the possibility of long term SHTF, you might want to get both a gun and a bow just because crossbow bolts are recoverable and easy to improvise if necessary.

that german slingshot channel guy also started selling a mechanism that turns any compound bow into a repeater that acts more like a crossbow, while circumventing most european laws against crossbows. if it gets to market fast enough that would be a great idea for people in countries where both guns and crossbows are illegal.

gun substitutes will be greatly inferior indoors (bulk/mobility) and at long range but its better than nothing and pretty effective at close to moderate ranges.

Thing is, this ain't gonna be some cutesie little one or two month quarantine. The shit has been fucked. A lot of people are going to die until a vaccine is created and that's the simple truth. A lot of doctors are boomers, and as we saw in China, age and health doesn't matter if you're around enough people with the shit. We're bound to witness our world's doctors die, triage will fuck over the hospitals and we're gonna experience the virus circulate even after the curve has been flattened. Once the month or so of food and shit has been consumed get ready to enjoy rations from your local national guard.

i agree with you but good luck convincing people on the internet of that. if they prepare even a little bit its better than nothing.

long term, knowledge of primitive tech and survival skills will take you the furthest. for example, knowing how to filter clean water, how to build a shelter, how to hunt for or gather food, how to start a fire, knowing you can run diesel engines off of mineral oil found in the transformers on power lines etc. stock up on chlorine tablets and water filters, not waterbottles like normies are doing. personally survival stuff is a hobby for me and i'm already interested in it simply for fun but its a hard sell for the normies to find value in it.

personally my bugout plan is to hole up in an abandoned underground nuke silo around seattle that i've urbex'd a bunch. already well sheltered, and strategically placed in a defensible position by its nature. knowing about your local decomissioned military assets is a good idea if you don't have the money or time to buy a bug out location but you're worried shit might go south. conveniently, if you're an ameriburger your military's already built a ton of suitable shelters and abandoned them since the cold war.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

The higher rates in males probably have 2 causes. One, males have substantially more lung capacity. Simply bigger lungs with more surface area. Thus more available and exposed receptors for the virus to attack.

Second is we are still looking at data heavily skewed by China. Chinese men smoke like chimneys.

I listened to Michael Osterholm on the Joe Rogan podcast yesterday and he mentioned smoking as a factor and that among Chinese men above a certain age 60+% of them smoke while in women it's only 20%.

Pro-click, it was really fascinating. "We're not in a Corona blizzard, we're in a Corona winter".

Joe Rogan Experience #1439 - Michael Osterholm

Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology. He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in...

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[Aria]

Brazilian President Bolsonaro appears on Facebook, says he's being tested for coronavirus and will have the result within hours.

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[Lucifer's Rectum]

So I managed to snag two 8-packs of toilet paper on top of my normal monthly supply. Got enough rice/eggs/frozen veggies/pasta to last a month. Hopefully that's enough for a bit.

 

[Kornheiser]

When does Deus Ex start?

 

[wokelizard]

Dosing yourself with anything stronger than OTC painkillers is generally a bad idea if you don't know what you're doing. Some people had the bright idea to buy chloroquine when the clinical trials for that started looking good, that shit can blind you if you fuck up the dose.

This will be for if all access to health infrastructure is impossible, and someone is literally dying. I've attached a useful prescribing reference. Your doctor won't be doing anything different, and if it's a community aquired infection like I'm preparing for, it's unlikely to need anything special re: resistance. Doxycycline, amoxicillin and erythromycin appear to be a useful trio. The latter two if you're in the states, you can get as fish/bird treatments so check a pet store. I can only easily get doxycycline so doxycycline is what I've got.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Poor poor sex workers losing business to corona Chan, lol. They’re just mad that she’s more popular now.

Coronavirus Fears Are Decimating The Sex Industry
Michael Hobbes
HuffPostMarch 12, 2020, 3:45 AM MDT
SEATTLE — In the epicenter of America’s coronavirus outbreak, sex workers are one of the first groups making adjustments.
Some have started taking their temperature every morning and asking their clients to do the same. Others have instituted no-kissing policies. Those who can afford to are setting up webcam sites or leaving the city entirely.
Still, the sex industry in Seattle has seen an unprecedented collapse in demand, making workers worry that they’ll be unable to pay rent and, potentially, more likely to end up in unsafe situations out of desperation. Indoor sex workers said regulars have started sending cancellations and new inquiries have dried up entirely. Street-based sex workers say customers have all but evaporated.

“I’m already seeing women in danger of moving into homeless encampments or losing custody of their kids,” said Suzanne Myers, a Seattle-based escort who also does outreach and community organizing. (All of the sex workers quoted in this article are using pseudonyms due to fear of law enforcement attention.) “For single moms or people working to keep their heads above water, having a dry week is difficult. Having two or three will be devastating.”
Myers said two of her clients have canceled appointments in the last three days and inquiries from new clients have dried up entirely. She has just one date scheduled this week, a man who usually pays for sex but downgraded his appointment to a social lunch due to his concerns about the virus.
“I’m down a week’s pay and we’re just at the beginning of this,” Myers said.
With 190 cases and 22 deaths, Seattle has been hit harder by coronavirus than any other U.S. city. The virus, which has infected more than 1,000 people nationwide and leads to the illness COVID-19, represents a perfect storm for the sex work industry.

We’re telling people to wash as much as they can, but some sex workers don’t have access to hot water and soap between sessions. Sherae Lascelles, Seattle-based community organizer and sex worker

Intimate contact is one of the most effective ways to contract the virus, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Sex workers have no social safety net to help them weather an unexpected loss of income. Many cannot afford to stop working for weeks to self-quarantine. (“How do you do social distancing when your salary is dependent on socializing?” asked Sherae Lascelles, a community organizer and sex worker.)
Plus, the sex industry relies on customers from the groups most at risk of contracting the virus and dying from it.
“Four out of five of my clients are men above 60 with at least one pre-existing health condition,” Myers said. “I’ve already had guys tell me, ‘I’m 63 and I’ve got lung problems, so I’m out of the game for a few weeks.’ If I were in that situation I’d be doing the same thing.”
The Virus Is Already Putting Sex Workers in Danger
For sex workers, the coronavirus could not have arrived in Seattle at a worse time.
Since 2015, the city has experienced an unprecedented spike in homelessness and drug addiction — two factors that have increased the number of people selling sex. Then, in 2018, Congress passed two laws (known as SESTA and FOSTA) that banned escort advertisements from the internet, a move that pushed more sex workers into outdoor prostitution. Now, the collapse in demand for sex work due to the coronavirus is driving even greater numbers of people onto the street to make up for the lost income
All of these factors combined are making sex work significantly more dangerous. “When there’s more girls outside and less demand, people start doing things they wouldn’t normally do and end up in situations that are very unsafe,” Myers said.
HuffPost spoke with two sex workers on North Aurora Avenue, Seattle’s red-light district, who said the recent wave of new street workers has already forced them to reduce their prices (other sex workers estimated that the going rate for oral sex had fallen from around $60 to around $30 even before the virus struck). They have also mostly stopped screening clients and no longer have the luxury of declining men who give them a bad feeling.

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Lascelles, the co-founder of the Green Light Project, a community organization that supports street-based sex workers and drug users, said she’s already hearing reports of more violent and coercive behavior from sex buyers.

“This is going to get people killed,” Lascelles said. “Men are using the virus as leverage: ‘I’m already taking a risk seeing you. So why should I use a condom?’”

Other sex workers told HuffPost that they are receiving more demands to perform anal sex and that pimps are trying to make up revenue by upping their recruitment efforts. With so many new sex workers flooding onto the streets, Lascalle said, it’s becoming harder to notify them of the risks.

“It’s the same guys abusing sex workers over and over,” she said. “They’re waiting for new girls to show up and be terrible to them. If someone comes (onto the street) after spending the winter inside or they’re desperate to make up their lost income, we don’t have ways of warning them,” Lascelles said.

None of this bodes well for sex workers or for public health in the long term. Myers pointed out that the lack of income and housing support for marginalized groups like sex workers and homeless people will make them more likely to get the disease — and also to spread it.

“If someone starts feeling sick and they only have one appointment that week, they might take it anyway,” she said. “That’s a terrifying thought, but that could mean daycare for their kids or paying their rent.”

Hitting Poor Sex Workers Hardest
While its long-term impacts remain unclear, the virus’ most immediate effect is the exacerbation of existing inequalities within the sex industry.

High-priced escorts, who tend to see fewer clients and work with a roster of regular customers, are more likely to have savings and secondary sources of income. HuffPost spoke with sex workers who have side jobs designing jewelry, making costumes for theater productions and translating legal documents. Some also have accounts on websites where they sell access to nude pictures, live chats or homemade pornography for monthly subscribers. Others have started “touring” to cities where the virus, and its attendant fears, aren’t as prominent.

Sex workers at the lower end of the market don’t have the same options. Many street workers lack the professional photographs, webcams and desktop computers necessary to move into online sex work. Due to a history of domestic violence or their own day jobs, many can’t risk uploading pictures of their faces. On North Aurora, a significant percentage of sex workers sleep in the hotel rooms paid for by their clients every night.

“We’re telling people to wash as much as they can but some sex workers don’t have access to hot water and soap between sessions,” Lascelles said. “We’re down to 15 packs of hand sanitizer when we’re used to giving out thousands per week.”

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Some parts of the industry have been hit harder than others. Massage parlors, for example, have been losing business for years due to the increasing number of high-profile “anti-trafficking” raids (in reality, few massage parlor workers are trafficked; most are undocumented women in their 40s and 50s unable to find other forms of employment).

After coronavirus appeared in China, customers slowed to a trickle due to anti-Asian xenophobia. Now that the virus has arrived in the U.S., revenues have plummeted even further.

“Business is down to the point where workers are saying they simply don’t have any right now,” said Kate Zen, the co-founder of Red Canary Song, which works with migrant sex workers. “They’re scraping by with what they have saved up and trying their best to hold out for as long as they can.”

Strip club workers have also been affected by the outbreak’s unique economic impacts.

“Customers are using the six-foot rule and social distancing as an excuse not to buy lap dances, but they’re still going to the clubs and exposing dancers to the virus,” Lascelles said. Strippers have to pay a “house fee” of $140 to $160 per night to work in the clubs. They make most of their money from individual dances and tips.

“I spoke to someone last night who used to earn $4,000 per week,” Lascelles said. “She hasn’t made any money in two weeks and made $20 on Sunday — and she’s $1,000 in debt from the house fees.”

Sex Workers Try To Protect Their Lives And Their Livelihoods
For now, many sex workers are taking steps to keep themselves and their clients safe from the virus. Jessica Brown, a high-end escort who charges $500 per hour with a two-hour minimum, has waived her cancellation fees, added hand sanitizer to the nightstand in her workspace and requests that clients wash their hands as they enter her room. While she’d always cleaned her space regularly, she is now sterilizing everything that’s been touched — including bottles of lube, sheets and sex toys —after every session.

Brown has also started coaching her older clients about what to say if they have to be quarantined and health workers ask them about their recent contacts in front of their wives. She’s instructed them to say they had a business meeting with her and use the alias she uses when she speaks at sexual health conferences.

“I’m going out of my way to let clients and my colleagues know about my cleanliness practices,” Brown said.

As for the industry as a whole, Brown is looking for reasons to be optimistic. “It’s like when we had that huge snowstorm last year,” Brown said. “Some clients were home with their families and others were single and bored” — i.e. some forms of sex work declined, but others took their place. Now it’s possible the industry may move online or indoors in ways no one has envisioned yet.

Alex Andrews, the co-founder of SWOP Behind Bars, a community outreach organization that supports incarcerated sex workers, echoed this view, pointing out that the sex industry is remarkably resilient to external events like recessions, political shifts and even, yes, disease outbreaks.

“I think that we will have a brief drop,” she said, “but ultimately nothing stands in the way of people wanting sex.”

Keep up with the latest updates on the coronavirus at our live blog.

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[StarkRavingMad]

Glenn Beck keeps using the same tagline. "You will get coronavirus"

This is fear mongering if I've ever seen it.

Glenn Beck has been a sensationalist for years. I see that nothing has changed.

 

[JacksonHeights]

Hello all, Resident pooper here.
In an unprecedented move, India has suspended ALL visas except those issued for diplomatic purposes and closed land borders with China and Myanmar until April 15th. Personally I am quite ecstatic as Chinese people can't use India to bypass other countries travel blockades. 73 cases so far. I am quite unnerved however, seeing as a first world country like France has around 400 and we only have 73(so far). Tests take quite a bit of time to come back with results so in the next 4 days we shall see the extent of corona in India but I am hopeful we will see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Until then stay safe kiwis : )

Edit: Each Indian state has coronavirus hotlines set up so that RN's can come to your house and take DNA if you suspect you have corona

Further Reading:

Coronavirus total cases in India rise to 223; four dead

As a precaution, more and more states have been ordering closure of public places, including schools, cinema halls and malls, till month-end.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

India temporarily suspends almost all visas and closes land border with Myanmar

"All existing visas, expect diplomatic, official, UN/International Organizations, employment, project visas, stand suspended till 15th April 2020," India's health ministry said.

www.cnbc.com

Coronavirus update: India quarantines itself from world for a month to fight coronavirus | India News - Times of India

India News: India on Wednesday evening decided to virtually quarantine itself from the rest of the world, suspending all visas, except those issued for diplomatic

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[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

Poor poor sex workers losing business to corona Chan, lol. They’re just mad that she’s more popular now.

Others have instituted no-kissing policies.

Who the hell is out there kissing hookers on the mouth? Ewwww

 

[forums poster wow]

since a lot of posters on here are students, amphetamines are a very useful non-treatment drug to stockpile for survival scenarios. it sounds weird, and might not be something that comes to mind for a situation like this, but look no further than the various borderline superhuman feats of survival performed during WWII on all sides, under the influence of amphetamine. if you have an adderall precription it might be a good idea to hoarde them until things either blow over or get bad.

 

[Reverend]

Who the hell is out there kissing hookers on the mouth? Ewwww

That's like going down on a hooker, no sane fucking person does that.