Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[A Detachable Penis]

Back again. Found out that a sped in a group home I knew of fits the phenotype of a female with Smith-Magenis. This is fun and now I want to do it for more cases.

Things to note

• Photographs for older individuals with certain phenotypes are hard to find
• The phenotypes do overlap somewhat
• Some are not genetic (severe CP, FAS)
• Those with obvious phenotypes tend to be those with severe autism, but that's not to say moderate autism isnt the same disorders
• A big tell is: do they look more related to other individuals with the disorder than their own parents?
• Tips and tricks: Avoid the rare shit. Chances are, it's the common shit.

Spoiler: Sperging with pictures cause I'm bored

My sympathies to these families as most of these are not preventable. Indeed, since so many autism cases are never determined to be their actual disorder, prevention of further cases is literally impossible. Some are inheritable if the parent is an asymptomatic carrier of what is almost always a chromosome rearrangement.


This is a phenotype I've seen a lot of. Seems to fit Cri du Chat syndrome.


Fragile X.


Smith-Magenis syndrome. Possibly Prader-Willi syndrome although individuals with that tend to be obese.


Fucking idiot parent (yes this is in a shower). I've seen this phenotype but I dont know what it is.


This is Downs. Only wanted to include to mention that about 5-10% of Downs syndrome cases are inherited from parents carrying fucked up chromosomes that work normally for them but dont separate properly.


Cri du chat. Their jaws tend to look less miniature but the low-set ears, flat nose bridge, and smooth lip groove thing stay consistent.


Myhne syndrome is one I just learned. Says it's rare but its recently disordered and has lumped like three distinct disorders into one all with the same or similar mechanism.

 

[Android raptor]

I feel like if people with these disorders that result in some exceptionalism and shit are given proper support and not exploited by their parents as cash cows (seriously why the fuck would you think it's ok to take a pic of any kid in the shower and post it publically on the internet), they can still live happy lives. The problem is support can be hard to access and the rate at which these kinds of people are abused is horrificaly high.

Like I kinda wonder if there was more to that case of the downs woman harming her eyes since self injury is a common maladaptive coping mechanism for stress or trauma. Being non-verbal especially makes it hard to find out if a person is being abused. Sick fucks probably deliberately seek out severely disabled people, especially non-verbal ones, because abusing them is so easy to get away with.

Idk personally any time I hear about someone acting violent to themself or others I think it should be investigated if it's a reaction to some kind of fucked up thing happening to them.

 

[najobo]

@A Detachable Penis the one you are unsure of looks like Cornelia de Lange to me.

Genetic disorders are terrifying. When Down Syndrome is the "good" one, you know you're fucked. The worst, in my humble opinion, is Lesch-Nyhan Syndrome:

 

[A Detachable Penis]

I feel like if people with these disorders that result in some exceptionalism and shit are given proper support and not exploited by their parents as cash cows (seriously why the fuck would you think it's ok to take a pic of any kid in the shower and post it publically on the internet), they can still live happy lives. The problem is support can be hard to access and the rate at which these kinds of people are abused is horrificaly high.

Like I kinda wonder if there was more to that case of the downs woman harming her eyes since self injury is a common maladaptive coping mechanism for stress or trauma. Being non-verbal especially makes it hard to find out if a person is being abused. Sick fucks probably deliberately seek out severely disabled people, especially non-verbal ones, because abusing them is so easy to get away with.

Idk personally any time I hear about someone acting violent to themself or others I think it should be investigated if it's a reaction to some kind of fucked up thing happening to them.

Yeah, I got on the topic of severe self injurious behavior to find that article.

Turns out 70% of it is caused by the environment (wanting attention, avoiding demands, etc) and 30% is the brain freaking the fuck out. The latter is obviously more interesting than "every time little Jimmy hits himself mommy gives him attention".

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I feel like if people with these disorders that result in some exceptionalism and shit are given proper support and not exploited by their parents as cash cows (seriously why the fuck would you think it's ok to take a pic of any kid in the shower and post it publically on the internet), they can still live happy lives. The problem is support can be hard to access and the rate at which these kinds of people are abused is horrificaly high.

Yeah, I agree. We have a really good program in my area for this. Mostly the successful things are giving them creative outlets like music, art and cooking.

Like, obviously none of the residents are going to be the CEO of a Fortune 500 company or even be able to hold down a job. You just give them simple stuff that gives them a sense of satisfaction.

I think this is where most parents go awry. Expect simple things out of simple children. Meet them where they're at, and give them an opportunity to do something.

 

[Android raptor]

Yeah, I agree. We have a really good program in my area for this. Mostly the successful things are giving them creative outlets like music, art and cooking.

Like, obviously none of the residents are going to be the CEO of a Fortune 500 company or even be able to hold down a job. You just give them simple stuff that gives them a sense of satisfaction.

I think this is where most parents go awry. Expect simple things out of simple children. Meet them where they're at, and give them an opportunity to do something.

Also they need to background check the fuck out of support workers and investigate any sign of abuse. It's like with elder abuse, that shit is rampant.

A lot of these people are capable of understanding more than you might think, so if their families are constantly yelling at them and telling them they're fucked up and shit, its gonna hurt them. I get that having a disabled kid is hard and people need to vent and shit, but I think it's best to do it in private and away from the kid.

Powerlevel but I spent a good chunk of my years in alternative school for kids of normal intelligence with behavior issues and exceptionals, pretty much all the kids had experienced some kinda fucked up shit and some of the retarded kids had some of the most horrific shit of all done to them (like one had her parents put cigarettes out on her). That experience has made me pretty sympathetic to these kids and makes me wonder just how many are being harmed.

Idk I wish there were much better support networks and shit for these people, so much fucked up shit happens

 

[Pixelated T-Rex]

I feel a little bit vindicated by this thread, honestly. I've always felt a deep-seated, instinctual revulsion towards the parents of these babies, who bankrupt themselves and the public at large to try and keep them kinda alive... When the word "kinda" does a lot of legwork. Dead babies, abortion and personal stances on what to do about finding out you're carrying a severely disabled child are difficult subjects to talk about. People often say "You wouldn't know what to do if you were in that situation" but... With some of these situations, I think the answer on what to do is pretty clear.
The amount of time and material resources shunted towards these babies that are just too fucked up to live, when there are so many healthy, unloved children just waiting for someone to take care of them and give them a future. The amount of college and university tuitions, the amount of house down-payments, the amount of money it'd take to set a child up for life just wasted over and over again on these lost causes makes me furious and I've always felt a little bad about feeling that way.
Sure, nobody wants to lose a child, but the sheer selfishness and gruesome inability to accept loss that these specific kinds of parents show really goes beyond that.

I read just yesterday about a couple who spent almost $100,000 implanting 6 embryos, all of which resulted in a miscarriage, one after the other. Now they are not only still childless, which is very sad, but they are penniless now, too. What a waste of time and tears.

It sounds heartless, but these parents really ought to let these kids go, and try again if they can... Or if they can't, give their love and resources to someone who needs them, because there's no shortage.

 

[Pho Real]

Yeah, I got on the topic of severe self injurious behavior to find that article.

Turns out 70% of it is caused by the environment (wanting attention, avoiding demands, etc) and 30% is the brain freaking the fuck out. The latter is obviously more interesting than "every time little Jimmy hits himself mommy gives him attention".

Some of it is sensory seeking as well, with both environment and brain-freak outs. When a brain is fucked up or missing sensory input of any kind (think of low functioning autistic kids hand flapping), there’s an impulse to do any sort of behavior that gives the brain sensory input. It’s the brain’s way of figuring out where the body is in time and space and calming itself down. Happens a lot in blind kids, too, plus any kind of syndrome or disease where things are just off, especially when there’s little to no communication ability.

Normal young kids do similar things, but they grow out of it when they realize that no one else around them does that, that it‘s not socially acceptable. But most tard babies don’t have that level of social awareness, if any at all, so the sensory seeking just never stops. You can‘t really blame them, though, they’re stuck in fucked up bodies and minds and all they know is that things feel bad and if they flap their hands or scream or bite the shit out of something, it feels better.

 

[AnOminous]

I read just yesterday about a couple who spent almost $100,000 implanting 6 embryos, all of which resulted in a miscarriage, one after the other. Now they are not only still childless, which is very sad, but they are penniless now, too. What a waste of time and tears.

Sacrificed at the altar of their egos.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Some of it is sensory seeking as well, with both environment and brain-freak outs. When a brain is fucked up or missing sensory input of any kind (think of low functioning autistic kids hand flapping), there’s an impulse to do any sort of behavior that gives the brain sensory input. It’s the brain’s way of figuring out where the body is in time and space and calming itself down. Happens a lot in blind kids, too, plus any kind of syndrome or disease where things are just off, especially when there’s little to no communication ability.

Normal young kids do similar things, but they grow out of it when they realize that no one else around them does that, that it‘s not socially acceptable. But most tard babies don’t have that level of social awareness, if any at all, so the sensory seeking just never stops. You can‘t really blame them, though, they’re stuck in fucked up bodies and minds and all they know is that things feel bad and if they flap their hands or scream or bite the shit out of something, it feels better.

This is pretty true. One of the adults I work with has Charge syndrome he is legally deaf and blind. He will throw things like desks, chairs, backs of toilets, or slam his head into you because it gives sensory input he can HEAR the sounds of large items crashing and he can feel when he slams his head into yours.

 

[Beluga]

I feel a little bit vindicated by this thread, honestly. I've always felt a deep-seated, instinctual revulsion towards the parents of these babies, who bankrupt themselves and the public at large to try and keep them kinda alive... When the word "kinda" does a lot of legwork. Dead babies, abortion and personal stances on what to do about finding out you're carrying a severely disabled child are difficult subjects to talk about. People often say "You wouldn't know what to do if you were in that situation" but... With some of these situations, I think the answer on what to do is pretty clear.
The amount of time and material resources shunted towards these babies that are just too fucked up to live, when there are so many healthy, unloved children just waiting for someone to take care of them and give them a future. The amount of college and university tuitions, the amount of house down-payments, the amount of money it'd take to set a child up for life just wasted over and over again on these lost causes makes me furious and I've always felt a little bad about feeling that way.
Sure, nobody wants to lose a child, but the sheer selfishness and gruesome inability to accept loss that these specific kinds of parents show really goes beyond that.

I read just yesterday about a couple who spent almost $100,000 implanting 6 embryos, all of which resulted in a miscarriage, one after the other. Now they are not only still childless, which is very sad, but they are penniless now, too. What a waste of time and tears.

It sounds heartless, but these parents really ought to let these kids go, and try again if they can... Or if they can't, give their love and resources to someone who needs them, because there's no shortage.

I think the only consolation you can have is the knowledge that because of these babies there have probably been many outbreaks in medicine that probably benefit the whole population. At least I hope so, it may be the optimist in me talking though.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I feel a little bit vindicated by this thread, honestly. I've always felt a deep-seated, instinctual revulsion towards the parents of these babies, who bankrupt themselves and the public at large to try and keep them kinda alive... When the word "kinda" does a lot of legwork. Dead babies, abortion and personal stances on what to do about finding out you're carrying a severely disabled child are difficult subjects to talk about. People often say "You wouldn't know what to do if you were in that situation" but... With some of these situations, I think the answer on what to do is pretty clear.
The amount of time and material resources shunted towards these babies that are just too fucked up to live, when there are so many healthy, unloved children just waiting for someone to take care of them and give them a future. The amount of college and university tuitions, the amount of house down-payments, the amount of money it'd take to set a child up for life just wasted over and over again on these lost causes makes me furious and I've always felt a little bad about feeling that way.
Sure, nobody wants to lose a child, but the sheer selfishness and gruesome inability to accept loss that these specific kinds of parents show really goes beyond that.

I read just yesterday about a couple who spent almost $100,000 implanting 6 embryos, all of which resulted in a miscarriage, one after the other. Now they are not only still childless, which is very sad, but they are penniless now, too. What a waste of time and tears.

It sounds heartless, but these parents really ought to let these kids go, and try again if they can... Or if they can't, give their love and resources to someone who needs them, because there's no shortage.

I'm fascinated by how much doctors don't know about infertility, especially 'unexplained infertility'.
I feel like in the next ten years there will be a lot more information on miscarriage prevention than there is now.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Judge be like: Only alive people have rights.

In Canuckistan

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I think the only consolation you can have is the knowledge that because of these babies there have probably been many outbreaks in medicine that probably benefit the whole population. At least I hope so, it may be the optimist in me talking though.

Kinda. Surgeons learn from experience, which is why they need to rack up so many fucking cases as lead during residency.

So even though some of these operations on these kids might be futile, it's useful from a learning perspective.

 

[Free the Pedos]

I don't agree with abortion but I also don't agree with bringing a child into this world that's just going to suffer terribly its entire life either. The children in this thread don't have any quality of life.

So what's your solution that avoids both of these events?

 

[eternal dog mongler]

So what's your solution that avoids both of these events?

Let nature take its course.

 

[Bani]

I read just yesterday about a couple who spent almost $100,000 implanting 6 embryos, all of which resulted in a miscarriage, one after the other. Now they are not only still childless, which is very sad, but they are penniless now, too. What a waste of time and tears.

Wow, they could have adopted a kid for a fraction of what they spent trying to get pregnant. I don't mean to be edgy, but I don't really feel a ton of sympathy for those people.

People do this instead of adopting because they specifically want a baby. And not just any baby. It's gotta be white, and it can't have FAS or be a coke baby. Which is absurd. How often do you think perfectly healthy white newborns get put up for adoption? If your answer was "never," you're damn near right. Other kids need homes, too.

People are so fixated on having a perfect kid and so terrified of having to deal with disabilities or behavioral issues (which the kid might end up with anyway) that they'll literally gamble away thousands with IVF and such. At the end of the day though, you could have a perfect baby and they could still grow up to be an asshole.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

People do this instead of adopting because they specifically want a baby. And not just any baby. It's gotta be white, and it can't have FAS or be a coke baby. Which is absurd. How often do you think perfectly healthy white newborns get put up for adoption? If your answer was "never," you're damn near right. Other kids need homes, too.

Unfortunately it takes a really special person to raise a foster kid right.

Most foster families around here are just in it for the cash, which, uh...we had a foster family lock kids in cages. That's not good.

 

[Slur Slurry]

So what's your solution that avoids both of these events?

Use various methods of birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies instead of aborting healthy babies,encourage women who are going to have babies that have devastating defects or genetic disorders to either abort or allow the babies to pass on without tons of medical intervention. Kids like Jaxon are never going to have a life,the hartley girls didn't have one either. It would have been kinder to abort them.

 

[Sparklepants]

People do this instead of adopting because they specifically want a baby. And not just any baby. It's gotta be white, and it can't have FAS or be a coke baby. Which is absurd. How often do you think perfectly healthy white newborns get put up for adoption? If your answer was "never," you're damn near right. Other kids need homes, too

The people I know who are spending their savings on IVF are doing it not because they want a white baby, but because they want THEIR baby. Even if literally everything in the world is telling them that their genes should never combine, that after 20+ embryos with serious genetic defect, after tens of thousands of dollars wasted, they’re still bound and determined to have a biological child. An adopted child isn’t good enough for their narcissism about how their genes must be continued. Even if it’s embryo adoption and she’ll still get to be pregnant with the kid, it’s not biologically theirs so it’s not good enough. Something needs to be done about that mindset before more people will adopt.