Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Overly Serious]

Explains death toll, not transmission rate.

Maybe they share the cigarettes?

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Reading even the last few pages of this thread are wtf.

1. Phone screenshots not thumbnailed.
2. Copy+pasting articles despite being asked not to.
3. ZERO (0) usages of archive.li, ANYWHERE.

For the record I didn't archive my dailymail article because archive.li is getting buttfucked so I'd rather not waste their time with that rag.

@5t3n0g0ph3r We need you in here to get this shit in order homie.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

When I make bread, I make a poolish (half flour, half water, yeast, maybe salt at this point to inhibit yeast overgrowth) and let it ferment overnight or longer on a cool counter or in the fridge. Then I take it out, add flour/salt to make a true dough, knead and let it rise. It’s better, but it takes a long time

Foccacia is stupid easy too

Easy Focaccia Bread Recipe with Garlic and Herbs

archived 1 Feb 2018 02:30:57 UTC

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You don't need the herbs, just olive oil, sugar or honey, active dry yeast/starter and salt.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Explains death toll, not transmission rate.

The kissing on the cheek explains that.

Also how are you doing my man?

 

[Non-Expert!]

It's hard to answer when things will "go back to normal" and we can all go on our merry way back to the schools, and bars, and businesses running again, not just because of the unpredictable nature of outbreaks, but because there won't be a day where we wake up and the virus is squashed magically. Getting back to "normal" will be a slow titration back up accompanied by slowing of cases, it will be a process and not a proclamation. It's impractical to wait for it to hit zero, as that could take a very very long time until a vaccine. It is good enough when cases have slowed to a few dozen here and there, the majority of cases are no worse than a cold or flu, and the healthcare system can handle the amount of more severe cases. In other words, where China is right now.

They are slowly opening their factories again, and gradually the restrictions on Hubei are being lifted. That took about one month post peak and two months since the lockdown. For us, given that all of the drastic measures we're taking now will not show as a flattening until late Mar/early April if effective due to the incubation period, that would probably put the first signs of "normalcy" at early May-mid May-ish. To put this into perspective, we are where China was in late Jan. One buisness resuming normal operations in a less affected area here, to a rescheduled event with a new date there. International travel restrictions I feel will be the last to go, that's not until August. Schools probably won't open until September, as it was late in the year anyways. The Olympics is far enough down the line to be spared, but it may have to make due with modified procedures.

Even when things resume, they will resume with extra precautions- hand santizer, maybe attendence caps, mandatory screening for temperature, declarations that you do not have symptoms etc, as to prevent a second wave like China is doing now. If we take it on the chin now and for a few weeks learn to live without some fun stuff, then we can begin working our way back to normalcy in a month or two. By contrast if we just don't give a shit, then there's the risk of no option but this thing running amok until everything collapses and there will never be any hope of normalcy again. Everyone being stuck at home doors welded shut in some places won't last forever.

Ok, just a (lay) theory, to build on your points ...

Things might "get back to normal" when the data on this mess widens and deepens. Some people on this board have been toying with the idea that Chinese are more susceptible ... ok ... wait until a lot of people get it and see who dies.

Are "darker skinned people" more susceptible? As in Italy or Iran? Sorry friend that is not science. However look at the genome of people who succumb etc. And of those who don't.

Are we all more suceptible when the weather is damp? Dry? Sunny? Data is not in.

Basically, unfortunately, a lot of people are going to have to get sick and die, before the data broadens enough to notice significant patterns.

My own suspicion is that the entire state of California, New Jersey, and Ohio are on lockdown, not out of compassion for the folks who will die, (because let's face it, we all die of something) but rather due to their keen awareness that there are very limited resources, to treat people. I think I read that there are like 3 hospital beds available per 1000. Whatever it is. ... let's make it 10 per 1000 .... point remains.

So when they slow down the infection rate and death rate it buys a bit of time. And how fast does it mutate? And upon exposure do those who survive it, gain a basic immunity to it?

My opinion, things will "get back to normal" when patterns emerge, and the picture gets clearer, infection rate becomes more predictable and health systems figure out how to jerry-rig solutions until they come up with a vaccine.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

but but MUH STEM and we gotta teach tolerance for faggots and fat asses.

See, I don't even find teaching basic tolerance that bad. Don't get me wrong. it's gone way too far now, but teaching kids not to be assholes to each other isn't a bad thing.

No, I'm livid about how apparently it's vital that kids have to know how -17x-25y=34n, and have to be able to prove it ten different ways, but not to know their rights, how to cook, etc. I'm not saying math isn't important, it really is, but I feel like most schools have gone too far with how much they focus on it.

I'm sorry, but that's gigantic bullshit. 90% of functional adults can do their taxes. It's not that hard. Grated, the US might be a third world country in that regard (too), but at least here it's dead simple. Add some numbers, fill in a form, don't be fucking stupid.

A lot of the stuff you mention is probably there on the syllabus. Didn't you have home econ? Because I did. I ended up using physics when I worked at a car dealership because hey, electric cars. It's good to know what amperage is. The problem is just that teenagers are mouth-breathing dumbfucks and the entire top floor is closed for renovations. "Life skills" won't help much there.

Read a novel and learn calculus. Get some culture.

You're missing the point.

I did have econ, but it was an elective, and most kids didn't end up getting it because the class filled up. What I was getting is that most the classes that taught life skills were optional, and a lot students ended up not getting them. Also when I said seven different kinds of math, I didn't mean physics, or geometry, or stuff like that. I meant shit like that equation I put above. I remember one of my friends asking the teacher when we would ever use this in real life, and the teacher couldn't answer. Stuff like that.

Basically what I meant is that schools here in America are really dropping the ball on what kind of shit should be mandatorily taught, and not just an optional elective. Yeah, teenagers are dumbfucks, but they might as well be learning something that they're actually going to need, and use.

 

[Shitassdeaddude]

Reading even the last few pages of this thread are wtf.

1. Phone screenshots not thumbnailed.
2. Copy+pasting articles despite being asked not to.
3. ZERO (0) usages of archive.li, ANYWHERE.

It's the apocalypse, Null. Archiving is a privilege of civilized society.

 

[Green Man]

The absolute state of people who can't subsist on rice and beans. That combo built South America, the Middle east (more rice and pulses here but I'm generalizing) and of course Asia. You can make an entire varied spread with rice and various iterations of soybean.

Exactly. There's a reason why people in most of the world eats both or at least one of these foods every day. They're cheap, readily available, you can purchase in bulk, they take forever to go bad and most importantly, they are nutritious and filling. Additionally, if you know your way around a spice rack or at least know how to cook, you can very easily add some variety and make them more appetizing to just about anyone's palate and if they're a 'picky eater' they'll eat it when they get hungry enough anyway.

But an alarming, and I mean fuckin' ALARMING, number of grown ass adults 'just can't even' or are 'so bad at adulting hahaha' that they have no grasp on any of these very basic skills. So you'll see them going to restaurants, running through the drive-through, or at the grocery store buying pre-made/frozen entrees or maybe even ordering those subscription meal kits. I always thought cooking was one of the most basic skills everyone should have and it's no wonder these people are spending half of their weekly budget on dining out and now they're shitting a brick because everything's closed and most of the pre-made stuff has been picked clean.

They're always derisive toward the older generations, but I learned to cook from an early age helping my mom, dad and my grandma in the kitchen. They knew it was an important skill so they tried to give me some knowledge. Apparently people don't do that anymore. Not meaning to PL but I grew up in Amish country and my family's been poor white Irish-German immigrant trash since we got off the boat, you learn real quick what you can eat that's cheap, rib-sticking and will get you through the day. I got quite a few recipes from some of the old folks in my family and they're all simple, cheap staple foods that you can dress up as you like or eat as they are. Some people disrespect the shit out of their elderly family or act like they're just old and in the way, but those old folks learned a thing or two going around the sun sixty, seventy or eighty times and most times they'll be happy to tell you or teach you because they're bored anyway. Especially if you've got still-living relatives who got through the Depression Era. My grandma might have had an attic full of newspapers, egg cartons and butter bowls but she never went without the necessities after she reached adulthood. Gardening and canning would be some skills that'd serve folks well now but people behave like canning/preserving food is black magic that can only be done in some factory. Fishing would be another one and of course hunting or trapping. Knowing where to find food in the woods and being able to tell the difference between a mushroom that tastes great and a mushroom that'll kill you or make you meet the Smurfs, those are good too.

There are some foods that transcend every culture because they were the best, most available source of food for pretty much everyone all throughout human history. But of course people are just gonna buy the convenient, tasty with no effort shit that has no nutritional density whatsoever and it won't stick with you very long either. I'm always a little surprised when I learn just how helpless and daft the average person is in the US especially. Can't blame them though I guess, Home Ec. classes are rare and parents don't have the time to impart any knowledge on their kids anymore. I'm grateful as hell that my relatives took the time to teach me how to live like an actual full-fledged person unlike most of these people who could seemingly fuck up ramen or a bowl of cereal.

 

[XYZpdq]

3. ZERO (0) usages of archive.li, ANYWHERE.

not trying to be a pedant, is there a reason to use that instead of archive.today?

in general updates Central Fl traffic was ridiculously light today, ran some errands on the way home
Aldi had a lot of staples cleaned out, still a lot of frozen stuff and NOBODY was touching the Ruben Nuggets. Gonna buy a bunch of those when they go on sale, they were pretty good. All the taste of an okay ruben sammich in handy nugget form.
Costco had tons of vodka, sign out front said they were out of the normal stuff you'd expect, had plenty of fiber (the thing I was there for) but the lines were like, two long lines that then fed into the cash registers and was a massive clusterfuck so I went to a nearby drugstore and payed extra.
Publix was cleaned of the stuff you'd expect, good selection of frozen other than pizza, plenty of beer including some BOGO becks I might hit up later in the week.

job said "work from home" but I don't check my email until I'm on the clock so I didn't find out until I got there lol, so worked the day anyway. Already started making excuses for why I might come into the office because lol in soviet russia worker makes excuse to come into work!

 

[large_farva]

Spoiler: archived links pages 5-10

Tom on Twitter

“DEVELOPING: Wuhan’s hospitals overwhelmed by concerned citizens, all concerned citizens waiting for confirmation on whether they’ve caught the #Coronavirus. Imagine how easily people can get sick from standing in these lines. City on lockdown #Wuhan https://t.co/baF0hegRw4”

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Tom on Twitter: "DEVELOPING: Wuhan’s hospitals overwhelmed by concern…

archived 23 Jan 2020 04:35:52 UTC

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China quarantines Wuhan amid coronavirus outbreak

The virus has been linked to at least 17 deaths.

www.foxnews.com

China quarantines Wuhan amid coronavirus outbreak | Fox News

archived 23 Jan 2020 01:36:15 UTC

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Beijing cancels New Year events to curb virus spread -Beijing News

finance.yahoo.com

Beijing cancels New Year events to curb virus spread -Beijing News

archived 5 Mar 2020 02:21:07 UTC

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Laurie Chen on Twitter

“This is... not good. Earlier today, several Wuhan hospitals put out a call for public donations of medical supplies e.g. surgical masks, scrubs, protective goggles. Gives some idea of how desperate the equipment shortage is and how under-resourced hospitals are in times of crisis”

twitter.com

Laurie Chen on Twitter: "This is... not good. Earlier today, several …

archived 5 Mar 2020 02:25:39 UTC

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British tourist feared to be victim of deadly new Chinese coronavirus

A British tourist is feared to have contracted the mysterious coronavirus that’s sweeping Asia after he was hospitalized on a trip to Thailand, according to a report. Ash Shorley, 32, was adm…

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British tourist feared to be victim of deadly new Chinese coronavirus

archived 22 Jan 2020 19:05:44 UTC

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Ray Lau on Twitter

“https://t.co/nIuPe6efjO”

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Ray Lau on Twitter: "… "

archived 24 Jan 2020 00:02:17 UTC

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Mister AntiBully on Twitter

“Downside - crowded Upside - if you pass out at least you won't fall down https://t.co/UEJoI33T0V”

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Mister AntiBully on Twitter: "Downside - crowded Upside - if you pass…

archived 23 Jan 2020 18:10:27 UTC

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李蔚WayLee on Twitter

“武汉市多名病患倒在街头、医院门诊大厅等处。 看来需要加大收治和确诊速度。 https://t.co/VE5U3UtvDh”

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李蔚WayLee on Twitter: "武汉市多名病患倒在街头、医院门诊大厅等处。 看来需要加大收治和确诊速度。… "

archived 24 Jan 2020 00:00:09 UTC

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I don't have enough space to do much video archiving at the moment, unfortunately. But I can keep sifting through the early pages. Most of these are through the queue now and have been archived for about a month.

 

[Cutlass Supreme]

I've been doing keto for years but something about being a lazy slob stuck at home makes me just want to bake bread and make risotto.

Also keto doesn't afford you much in the way of dirt cheap shelf stable food outside of canned veg and nuts. If this goes on too long I'll probably break keto just to make my food last longer by cutting each meal with a serving of rice.

Meanwhile I suggest everyone pick up the cheap $3 Brie from Aldi and bake that shit 350F for 20 mins. Take the top rind off and dip your fave bread/veg in like it's fondue. You can also add honey or preserves or nuts and give it all a good stir.

 

[Goronnn]

Morgellons is scarier because they admit that it might be out there, but they are going to research it any day now, for decades.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

You're missing the point.

I did have econ, but it was an elective, and most kids didn't end up getting it because the class filled up. What I was getting is that most the classes that taught life skills were optional, and a lot students ended up not getting them. Also when I said seven different kinds of math, I didn't mean physics, or geometry, or stuff like that. I meant shit like that equation I put above. I remember one of my friends asking the teacher when we would ever use this in real life, and the teacher couldn't answer. Stuff like that.

Basically what I meant is that schools here in America are really dropping the ball on what kind of shit should be mandatorily taught, and not just an optional elective. Yeah, teenagers are dumbfucks, but they might as well be learning something that they're actually going to need, and use.

Almost like it's being done on purpose. Dumbing down the masses to not only be generally stupider to basic common sense (let alone more serious issues), but also be increasingly reliant on public/government services because they're never taught a crumb of self-sufficiency.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Oh shit. Beanie boy is dropping some hard red pills on the China Question.

 

[dopy]

Oh shit. Beanie boy is dropping some hard red pills on the China Question.

THE SINOID MONKEY FEARS THE KOREAN MEAN BEANIE

 

[Non-Expert!]

Why did Italy get hammered so hard in particular? It doesn't strike me as a major travel nexus or anything

Tourism is a major industry there.

But aside from that, they probably caught it, just being Italians.

There are old people in Italy who would go to Mass, even if they were to exit feet first. A lot of them, actually.

They also are total momma's boys. Italian men in general are very attached to their moms, even if she is 75 and he is 50. So imagine how easy the wu-flu could spread. They socialize almost exclusively on the streets. None of this shuttling between work and home stuff we have here.

Italians also socialize from cradle to the grave. Old men get together and hang out. Old ladies do a daily grocery run and socialize with the same people on their errands.

It really does not take long for cases to mushroom, when people live in tight quarters and have rich social lives outside the home.

 

[Goronnn]

Oh shit. Beanie boy is dropping some hard red pills on the China Question.

Tim Tim got fat, now a chunky chungus like Cenk.

 

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BNO News on Twitter

“BREAKING: More than 1,350 inmates escape from prisons in São Paulo after tensions over coronavirus restrictions; several guards being held hostage - EFE https://t.co/cbibJzaXjk”

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BNO News on Twitter: "BREAKING: More than 1,350 inmates escape from p…

archived 17 Mar 2020 00:51:17 UTC

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More than 1,350 inmates escape from prisons in São Paulo after tensions over coronavirus restrictions; several guards being held hostage

 

[dopy]

crossposting from TDS thread:

(link) (a)

there's no way this guy isn't one of the deepest trolls in history at this point

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

crossposting from TDS thread:

Thanks to these losers it's harder to keep up to date with updates since so many people are losing their shit over this. It's embarrassing.
Some people were coming back with "would you call H1N1 an American virus?"
Yes, if that's where it originated from.