Wuhan Coronavirus: Lockdowns, Quarantines, Cancellations

[millais]

PA is the only one and it was pretty drop of a hat. Nobody had any notion that this would happen yesterday. We did have a shutdown on restaurants ordered on Monday.

Unfortunately for GS the PA government has an actual list of what industries are and are not required to shut down and there is no such thing as "essential retail" there's simly types of retail that are allowed to remain open (grocery stores, gas stations, etc.) and those that are not (gaming isn't big enough so it goes under "other" and is to be shut down.) They say comply with all state regulations at the end of that memo, AKA they will be shutting down in PA.

I can appreciate the dire necessity of having to contain the virus by all means, but I hope in my state they will phase in the total business shutdown or at least give people a week of advance notice so they can get their work or businesses to a safe stopping point before the shutdown begins.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

How sudden have the statewide complete business shutdowns been? Were they incrementally tightened to that point, or was it a very sudden 0 to 100 kind of deal?

In NY it's been pretty incremental. Every day or two Cuomo ups the percentage of people working from home...goes from a suggested percentage to a mandatory/new suggested percentage, and the next day yesterday's suggested is now mandatory. He closes a new swath of businesses each day.

We're currently at:
-mandatory 75% must work from home, 100% work from home suggested
-bars, theaters, gyms, casinos closed
-indoor sections of malls closed (anchors/stores with outside entrances can remain open, though most already closed)
-restaurants open for takeout/delivery only
-highly suggested that all non essential businesses close

He also does this haphazardly, by announcing it at press conferences or on his twitter. He is supposedly signing executive orders, but I can't find the text of them anywhere. He announces it without details, the press reports it and interprets it as they see fit, and then he informs the state workers who execute it.

My hot take is that he has been planning for a total shutdown of non essential business and a shelter in place for over a week, but has wanted to do it in increments so as to stop panic. I think tomorrow he will pull the trigger on that and by Monday at the latest the state will be shut down.

Whether that translates to cops pulling you over for driving and asking for papers please or you getting stopped going for a walk I dunno. But I think at least everything will be closed but grocery, banks, post offices, hospitals/clinics and drugstores.

 

[ShinyStar]

I've heard from a relative in CA that they're expecting their governor to close the state borders soon. Can't find anything online to support this, but they're taking it seriously enough to move forward their plans to move out of the state.

 

[millais]

In NY it's been pretty incremental. Every day or two Cuomo ups the percentage of people working from home...goes from a suggested percentage to a mandatory/new suggested percentage, and the next day yesterday's suggested is now mandatory. He closes a new swath of businesses each day.

We're currently at:
-mandatory 75% must work from home, 100% work from home suggested
-bars, theaters, gyms, casinos closed
-indoor sections of malls closed (anchors/stores with outside entrances can remain open, though most already closed)
-restaurants open for takeout/delivery only
-highly suggested that all non essential businesses close

He also does this haphazardly, by announcing it at press conferences or on his twitter. He is supposedly signing executive orders, but I can't find the text of them anywhere. He announces it without details, the press reports it and interprets it as they see fit, and then he informs the state workers who execute it.

My hot take is that he has been planning for a total shutdown of non essential business and a shelter in place for over a week, but has wanted to do it in increments so as to stop panic. I think tomorrow he will pull the trigger on that and by Monday at the latest the state will be shut down.

Whether that translates to cops pulling you over for driving and asking for papers please or you getting stopped going for a walk I dunno. But I think at least everything will be closed but grocery, banks, post offices, hospitals/clinics and drugstores.

Well, I guess that's better than a total shutdown with no notice or lead up. But I imagine it would make people less panicked overall if the governor just set a hard date for a total shutdown and give people time to prepare for it.

 

[MediocreMilt]

I've heard from a relative in CA that they're expecting their governor to close the state borders soon. Can't find anything online to support this, but they're taking it seriously enough to move forward their plans to move out of the state.

I'm not sure a Governor technically has that power. Sounds Federal.

 

[melty]

So, we have to shut down the country all because of because of some boomers? The generation before them sacrificed a ton for them and they expect the generations after them to sacrifice even more for them.

Yep, the worst generation can't even die without upending the world order and screwing everybody else over.

I've heard from a relative in CA that they're expecting their governor to close the state borders soon. Can't find anything online to support this, but they're taking it seriously enough to move forward their plans to move out of the state.

Will this stop the people from leaving California as well? If so I love it.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

This is only for sellers sending inventory to the warehouses. And it's only until April 5th at the latest. People can still buy anything and Amazon has TONS of stock of non essentials they're still shipping, they just need a window of time to prioritize getting more essentials into their warehouses to sell.
Amazon isn't going anywhere, quite the contrary.

Oh, thank God. The world will keep spinning so long as Jeff Bezos gets more money.

 

[Particle Bored]

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03...first-tests-of-essential-under-shelter-order/

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I've heard from a relative in CA that they're expecting their governor to close the state borders soon. Can't find anything online to support this, but they're taking it seriously enough to move forward their plans to move out of the state.

>tfw California builds their own wall

 

[Pancake]

Will this stop the people from leaving California as well? If so I love it.

No, I don't want to be trapped here.

 

[Pargon]

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https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/lo...ted-with-coronavirus-in-next-8-weeks/2289281/

From the CNN article on the same topic:

The order will not be enforced by law enforcement, he added

Thank fuck. It should be noted that I'm fairly certain this is the case with all of these "orders" nationwide, because I'm fairly certain they don't want cops arresting or God forbid shooting people over them deciding to go shopping or go to work. I think shuttering businesses was the full limit of their enforceable power, and I'm honestly surprised traditionally independent-minded owners like those of gun stores are complying.

I'm still in favor of distancing and gatherings being discouraged but telling 40 million people to stay home until "whenever lol" is bananas. I can't wait to see what they come up with to "encourage" compliance. Shutting down public transport seems like a good first nefarious step.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I'm not sure a Governor technically has that power. Sounds Federal.

Doesn't cali already operate BIPs for certain kinds of pests that aren't allowed into the state? It wouldn't take much to justify adding a virus to the list and then just turning everyone away at the border. Not strictly constitutional, but they've been effectively doing it for decades already, and once the people are used to an infringement of their rights, expanding it without protest is fairly easy.

 

[wokelizard]

Whether that translates to cops pulling you over for driving and asking for papers please or you getting stopped going for a walk I dunno. But I think at least everything will be closed but grocery, banks, post offices, hospitals/clinics and drugstores.

I am very opposed to stopping people out walking by themselves. Sunlight (ultraviolet) will destroy viruses in the air and on surfaces, leaving only direct transmission by inhaling saliva/snot globs that someone else has just coofed. It's why flu transmission decreases seasonally, nothing to do with the heat, but increased sunlight and it's ability to break transmission chains. Viruses are TINY, and millions of them float around in the air like pollen, except WAY smaller. Forcing people to remain enclosed indoors, potentially with other infected like France is doing, will lead to increased transmission.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I'm not sure a Governor technically has that power. Sounds Federal.

*Looks at 10th amendment* Unless the neighboring states complain, I think this is a State power.

 

[NoSpiceLife]

Dysnomia said:
...Now I feel bad for going to the store even though I had to since I also had to go to the ER. And that trip to the store made me start coughing again. They said it was a respiratory virus. I am probably ok.

I know I am really late with a response but 'respiratory virus', what the fuck is the coronavirus?

 

[ShinyStar]

Yep, the worst generation can't even die without upending the world order and screwing everybody else over.


Will this stop the people from leaving California as well? If so I love it.

No, I don't want to be trapped here.

According to them, one of the justifications is going to be preventing Californians from spreading the disease elsewhere, so stopping people from leaving the state would be part of the plan.

 

[I-chi]

Pennsylvanian here, boss just called me this morning and said we're on the list as non essential. Still have jobs but who knows how long we'll be shut down now.

I can only hope at least to the end of the initial 14 days. If not a week after. I REALLY don't want the government bux with how strained shit already feels like.

Happy birthday to me I guess.

 

[moocow]

Netflix and YouTube are slowing down in Europe to keep the internet from breaking

Netflix and YouTube will reduce streaming quality in Europe for at least the next month to prevent the internet collapsing under the strain of unprecedented usage due to the coronavirus pandemic.

amp.cnn.com

Welcome to nginx!

Netflix to reduce their streaming quality in the EU to "prevent the internet from breaking".

Guess they're not going to be so smug anymore about everyone having "gigabit internet." Apparently you only have actual gigabit if nobody's really using it.

 

[byuu]

Guess they're not going to be so smug anymore about everyone having "gigabit internet." Apparently you only have actual gigabit if nobody's really using it.

Europe isn't a single country.
No one in my country would ever be smug about their internet. It sucks and everyone hates the dominant ISP here.

 

[Basic Bleach]

Can confirm the Wommart operating hours cuts. Nothing about senior shopping times at our store, but we do have the 0700 - 2030 thing happening. Also employees-only shopping an hour before and an hour after open and close.

None of the stockers are being shafted and in fact OT is authorized through at least the end of next week. Store Mgr thinks this will all be back to normal by Monday, yet one week after the start of the coronapocalypse and we can still throw up two trucks worth of food and have it completely gone by the time we come back.
And still no TP on the shelves.
But hey, they finally set down hard purchase limits on that, paper towels, sanitizer and wipes.

Half the sovcits I work with plan to stock up on guns and ammo with the bonuses we're supposed to get for working through this, lol.