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Just marketing so people will buy merchandise of there new characters.
Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off
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Welp, I have lots more time to read this book, since school is cancelled, work is in low power mode and I've been kicked out of Bible Study.
Today I read chapters 11-16, I should finish this book tomorrow.
1) Goddamn I hate her writing style so much! Sentence fragments, random interjections about what a character is wearing or looking like, she keeps telling us how characters feel, not showing, even if dialogue renders her description redundant.
2) So we learn that Luke's ghost is trying to get Leia to die, he keeps goading her to give up to the Force, tells her to tell the Resistance good bye, and tells her that there's nothing left to do. Apparently if Jedi convince people to suicide now.
3) Someone here just mentioned that no one cares about Zorii Bliss. Funny, you should mention that, because this book now has parts for all of Zorii's actions between the gang escaping and the Battle of Exegol. We get thrilling scenes of her walking, talking, and planning her escape.
4) Worse, Carson made up her own OC called Lluda, who is a blatent Mary Sue. She has soccer mom white hair (no joke: it's described as "short cropped"), is one of the best splicers on Kijimi, and her parents were brutally murdered along with other secrets in a dark past. I don't know if she survives to the end yet.
5) Leia thinks to herself as she's dying that she's giving the Skywalker legacy to Rey, the Solo legacy to Kylo, and the Organa legacy to Poe...for some reason. I'm not sure why our awesome heroes want to be given a legacy of failure.
6) Luke tells Rey that Leia was stronger than anyone. If Leia is stronger than Luke, we needed to see that in earlier ancillary material, not have it show up in episode VIII and then declare in the book of IX that she's the strongest evar.
7) According to the book, Kef Bit used to be like Kamino, totally underwater, but when the Death Star fragments crashed into it, it caused land masses to rise above sea level. We don't get an explanation for how chunks from the Death Star survived, but we do get told Kef Bit used to be landless. I'm actually starting to think she's refusing to answer questions out of pure spite.
Zorii rescues Babu From while he watches the laser blast destroy Kijimi from his hut, so now Disney is ripping off Rogue One, which they made.
9) Rey is exhausted after Force healing Kylo and the snake so Luke tells her to nap on Ahch-To for a bit. I thought they only had 16 hours to act? Why are they napping?
Lastly, this one may seem dumb or me reading into it but here we go.
10) Wade Pryde thinks as he lands on Exegol that "Our lord will rise again." This could be a dig at Christianity. Just a thought.
All in all this book is bad. Usually, the novelization salvages the movies but somehow makes it worse. You can tell Carson hasn't written anything that isn't YA because it's written so simplistically and feels so dumb.
Just 4 chapters left, once more on the breach, my friends!
Today I read chapters 11-16, I should finish this book tomorrow.
1) Goddamn I hate her writing style so much! Sentence fragments, random interjections about what a character is wearing or looking like, she keeps telling us how characters feel, not showing, even if dialogue renders her description redundant.
2) So we learn that Luke's ghost is trying to get Leia to die, he keeps goading her to give up to the Force, tells her to tell the Resistance good bye, and tells her that there's nothing left to do. Apparently if Jedi convince people to suicide now.
3) Someone here just mentioned that no one cares about Zorii Bliss. Funny, you should mention that, because this book now has parts for all of Zorii's actions between the gang escaping and the Battle of Exegol. We get thrilling scenes of her walking, talking, and planning her escape.
4) Worse, Carson made up her own OC called Lluda, who is a blatent Mary Sue. She has soccer mom white hair (no joke: it's described as "short cropped"), is one of the best splicers on Kijimi, and her parents were brutally murdered along with other secrets in a dark past. I don't know if she survives to the end yet.
5) Leia thinks to herself as she's dying that she's giving the Skywalker legacy to Rey, the Solo legacy to Kylo, and the Organa legacy to Poe...for some reason. I'm not sure why our awesome heroes want to be given a legacy of failure.
6) Luke tells Rey that Leia was stronger than anyone. If Leia is stronger than Luke, we needed to see that in earlier ancillary material, not have it show up in episode VIII and then declare in the book of IX that she's the strongest evar.
7) According to the book, Kef Bit used to be like Kamino, totally underwater, but when the Death Star fragments crashed into it, it caused land masses to rise above sea level. We don't get an explanation for how chunks from the Death Star survived, but we do get told Kef Bit used to be landless. I'm actually starting to think she's refusing to answer questions out of pure spite.
Zorii rescues Babu From while he watches the laser blast destroy Kijimi from his hut, so now Disney is ripping off Rogue One, which they made.9) Rey is exhausted after Force healing Kylo and the snake so Luke tells her to nap on Ahch-To for a bit. I thought they only had 16 hours to act? Why are they napping?
Lastly, this one may seem dumb or me reading into it but here we go.
10) Wade Pryde thinks as he lands on Exegol that "Our lord will rise again." This could be a dig at Christianity. Just a thought.
All in all this book is bad. Usually, the novelization salvages the movies but somehow makes it worse. You can tell Carson hasn't written anything that isn't YA because it's written so simplistically and feels so dumb.
Just 4 chapters left, once more on the breach, my friends!
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This nightmare inducing garbage is just what I need to help my already sleepless nights this week. When I read this lunacy I still can't decide are these decisions are deliberate to spit in our face or just the result of complete incompetence and inability.
Why in the hell has this person added some new female character to the story? Did other authors do this for previous novelizations?
Why in the hell has this person added some new female character to the story? Did other authors do this for previous novelizations?
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No, they didn't add new characters in the last 8 novelizations. TROS' novel seems to be uniquely bad thus far.
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Not only that, but the trailer seems to go out of its way to make a big deal about Ahsoka and her new relationship with the biker babes -- one of whom supposedly serves as her new love interest instead of Lux or the male character that was originally supposed to be present here. It's also odd that the trailer doesn't show Ahsoka in action during the Siege of Mandalore or helping the Jedi in other missions that's been teased elsewhere. Instead, we get "Ahsoka's back and more woke than ever" thrust on us.
I'd be curious to know what Ashley Eckstein, Ahsoka's voice actress, truly thinks about Ahsoka being made more woke and not whatever pre-canned response Ashley is expected to parrot to everyone about how exciting it is to be voicing Ahsoka again for these new episodes. I seem to recall some sort of behind the scenes commentary Ashley made about the Lux/Ahsoka dynamic and how it impacted Ahsoka's character. Later, Ashley seemed pleasantly surprised to learn about the guy Ahsoka was going to be spending time with in these new episodes when the story lines were first teased -- possibly at one of the SW Celebrations. To have that abruptly scrapped in the name of wokeness has to be some sort of slap in the face even if Ashley can't openly admit it for reasons.
You earned
for that simply for having to endure reading through all of that crap for us and reporting on how bad it really is. Semper fi, brave kiwi.
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They're either dragging Luke more, or the author supports suicide.
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Leia really was the most powerful and they fucked it up...
If Carrie was alive all this shit could have been avoided.
If Carrie was alive all this shit could have been avoided.
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I remembered StarWars.com made a direct statement they would not cgi Carrie Fisher into Episode 9, funny how things turned out.
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Sounds like bullshit revisionist arse covering to me. The big bulbous head has finally realised he's not getting a trilogy and now playing blame games.So RJ apparently never test screened TLJ to audiences. Kinda winded if he did with executives or not.
Rian Johnson Wanted To Test Screen The Last Jedi
Johnson was able to do so for Knives Out.screenrant.com
My last film was a smashing success, it's all Disney's fault SW failed, not mine at all... I deserve more work (insert arse pats here)
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I feel unbelievably sorry for Carrie that the final movies that she had to be associated with was this dumpster fire of a sequel trilogy.
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OK Prepare for the end and loads of nerd rage.
1) The novel confirms that Kylo Ren found a TIE in the Death Star II hanger, many doubted this assuming he went back to his flag ship and took one, but the one in the movie is obviously an Imperial TIE fighter. Now the issue with this is that Imperial TIEs didn't have a hyperdrive but it would've been worthless. The movie says it was a Scout TIE, which appeared in the Thrawn Trilogy. According to the canon article on Wookieepedia, there's no indication that these had a hyperdrive. If it did, then that fixes the issue with how he got there, but it still leaves the issue that he found a working TIE on the Death Star's wreckage, which 3PO confirmed was underwater for 10 years.
2) More poor writing with this beautiful quote: "She took one step forward. Another."
3) Carson acknowledges that Ben shouldn't've thrown away his saber. "Maybe it had been a bit premature to throw his lightsaber into the sea." She insists a blaster wouldn't do any good, although Mauler and co. claim a blaster would be great against people holding melee weapons, by the way, we never see the Knights of Ren use the Force, it's possible they don't even have it.
4) How Palpatine survived is just a total rip off of Dark Empire, but we knew that. His soul left his body and astrally projected into a clone on Exegol. It apparently was an excruciating experience. The Sith Eternal kept splicing genes, so I assume that means that the Snokes were failed Palpatine clones, along with Rey's father. The reason Palpatine didn't use clones is because the Sith Eternals couldn't make one and Kamino got quarantined because of Coronavirus, so they couldn't hit them up.
5) The Rule of Two was an attempt by every Sith since Darth Bane to create a Dyad, not to keep Sith from infighting, which contradicts the last episode of The Clone Wars-which Disney made. Better continuity my ass...We still don't know what a Dyad is, really. Do you need a lightsider and a darksider, or can two Sith form one? Does this mean that no more than two Sith have existed at a time throughout history? At this point, it's like the Sequel Trilogy and the NEU are in different continuities.
6) The Knights allow Ben to get back to his feet because of arrogance. This is explicitly stated in the book. That's why the First Order failed so much throughout the Sequel Trilogy because they were arrogant, lol.
7) Everyone calls in at the end when the People Fleet show up, we get Phantom Squad from Wendig's shit, Ghost, piloted by a 70-year-old Hera Syndulla, Alphabet Two from the those awful Alphabet Squadron books (at least, I think they're awful, I've never read them and never will), Inferno Squad from more awful books and games, and Kaz from the Resistance cartoon. What is up with all these old people from the Original era still being alive and fighting? Also, it still kinda pisses me off that it's all NEU and no old EU stuff, like another FUCK YOU to the reader.
So Carson explains why Palpatine didn't just stop shooting lightning. It was because he was in denial what was happening. No comment.
9) 300,000,000 Sith Eternal and Final Order people were killed by the Resistance and friends. We know from old material that these people were raised and indoctrined by the Sith Eternal. The book says they've never left Exegol and are eager to find their place, ruling in the galaxy. The Resistance kills them all. Basically, the Resistance is proud because the killed a planet full of homeschooled kids.
10) Rey muses that nobody would congratulate her if they knew she was a Palpatine, but then she decides nobody cares about bloodlines. So you sweet summer child... That she's better than Leia so no one cares.
11) Hold on, back up to the homeschoolers, where did they come from? 300 million is a huge number, and supposedly they're all children of the Sith Eternal. The Rule of Two is canon in this book because they mention it, so where did all the Sith followers come from? The Sith are supposed to be extinct and NEU content indicates most people never heard of them, are we supposed to belief a bunch of Sith Loyalists were lurking in the shadows the whole time?
12) The Piéce de Résistance: Poe and Finn discuss Palpatine and Poe says Palpatine could return, Finn says he could but it wouldn't be for a long, long time. There we go, Episodes X, XI, and XII will be about fighting Palpatine, again.
The end is a boring cringe fest so uninteresting it's not even worth talking about.
Conclusion:
As I write this, I'm reminded of Kevin J Anderson, mostly the introduction the wrote for Dark Empire's paperback version. He wrote that in order to write the Jedi Academy Trilogy, he binge read everything, from the Thrawn books to Jedi Prince and even played numerous Star Wars RPGs to get a sense of the world he was writing in. When he found out about Dark Empire, he was frustrated, but he called Tom Vietch its writer and they figured out to reconcile the stories and they made it work. Say what you will about KJA, but he did his research, even if he failed, he tried his damnedest.
A few days before this book dropped, Carson tweeted that she cried during TFA, because she waited her whole life to see a female Jedi. Needless to say, Star Wars fans tore her apart, she was only rescued by moving the goal posts from female Jedi to female Jedi that wasn't in a cartoon, didn't die horribly, and had a certain number of lines. This woman doesn't care about Star Wars, neither do her beta SIMP orbiters and the legions of dangerhairs.
For that reason, she is the worst Star Wars novelization writer, in the end, it wasn't the subject or writing style, it was her piss poor attitude. Worst Star Wars novelization ever, actually, I think the book is worse than the movie.
1) The novel confirms that Kylo Ren found a TIE in the Death Star II hanger, many doubted this assuming he went back to his flag ship and took one, but the one in the movie is obviously an Imperial TIE fighter. Now the issue with this is that Imperial TIEs didn't have a hyperdrive but it would've been worthless. The movie says it was a Scout TIE, which appeared in the Thrawn Trilogy. According to the canon article on Wookieepedia, there's no indication that these had a hyperdrive. If it did, then that fixes the issue with how he got there, but it still leaves the issue that he found a working TIE on the Death Star's wreckage, which 3PO confirmed was underwater for 10 years.
2) More poor writing with this beautiful quote: "She took one step forward. Another."
3) Carson acknowledges that Ben shouldn't've thrown away his saber. "Maybe it had been a bit premature to throw his lightsaber into the sea." She insists a blaster wouldn't do any good, although Mauler and co. claim a blaster would be great against people holding melee weapons, by the way, we never see the Knights of Ren use the Force, it's possible they don't even have it.
4) How Palpatine survived is just a total rip off of Dark Empire, but we knew that. His soul left his body and astrally projected into a clone on Exegol. It apparently was an excruciating experience. The Sith Eternal kept splicing genes, so I assume that means that the Snokes were failed Palpatine clones, along with Rey's father. The reason Palpatine didn't use clones is because the Sith Eternals couldn't make one and Kamino got quarantined because of Coronavirus, so they couldn't hit them up.
5) The Rule of Two was an attempt by every Sith since Darth Bane to create a Dyad, not to keep Sith from infighting, which contradicts the last episode of The Clone Wars-which Disney made. Better continuity my ass...We still don't know what a Dyad is, really. Do you need a lightsider and a darksider, or can two Sith form one? Does this mean that no more than two Sith have existed at a time throughout history? At this point, it's like the Sequel Trilogy and the NEU are in different continuities.
6) The Knights allow Ben to get back to his feet because of arrogance. This is explicitly stated in the book. That's why the First Order failed so much throughout the Sequel Trilogy because they were arrogant, lol.
7) Everyone calls in at the end when the People Fleet show up, we get Phantom Squad from Wendig's shit, Ghost, piloted by a 70-year-old Hera Syndulla, Alphabet Two from the those awful Alphabet Squadron books (at least, I think they're awful, I've never read them and never will), Inferno Squad from more awful books and games, and Kaz from the Resistance cartoon. What is up with all these old people from the Original era still being alive and fighting? Also, it still kinda pisses me off that it's all NEU and no old EU stuff, like another FUCK YOU to the reader.
So Carson explains why Palpatine didn't just stop shooting lightning. It was because he was in denial what was happening. No comment.9) 300,000,000 Sith Eternal and Final Order people were killed by the Resistance and friends. We know from old material that these people were raised and indoctrined by the Sith Eternal. The book says they've never left Exegol and are eager to find their place, ruling in the galaxy. The Resistance kills them all. Basically, the Resistance is proud because the killed a planet full of homeschooled kids.
10) Rey muses that nobody would congratulate her if they knew she was a Palpatine, but then she decides nobody cares about bloodlines. So you sweet summer child... That she's better than Leia so no one cares.
11) Hold on, back up to the homeschoolers, where did they come from? 300 million is a huge number, and supposedly they're all children of the Sith Eternal. The Rule of Two is canon in this book because they mention it, so where did all the Sith followers come from? The Sith are supposed to be extinct and NEU content indicates most people never heard of them, are we supposed to belief a bunch of Sith Loyalists were lurking in the shadows the whole time?
12) The Piéce de Résistance: Poe and Finn discuss Palpatine and Poe says Palpatine could return, Finn says he could but it wouldn't be for a long, long time. There we go, Episodes X, XI, and XII will be about fighting Palpatine, again.
The end is a boring cringe fest so uninteresting it's not even worth talking about.
Conclusion:
As I write this, I'm reminded of Kevin J Anderson, mostly the introduction the wrote for Dark Empire's paperback version. He wrote that in order to write the Jedi Academy Trilogy, he binge read everything, from the Thrawn books to Jedi Prince and even played numerous Star Wars RPGs to get a sense of the world he was writing in. When he found out about Dark Empire, he was frustrated, but he called Tom Vietch its writer and they figured out to reconcile the stories and they made it work. Say what you will about KJA, but he did his research, even if he failed, he tried his damnedest.
A few days before this book dropped, Carson tweeted that she cried during TFA, because she waited her whole life to see a female Jedi. Needless to say, Star Wars fans tore her apart, she was only rescued by moving the goal posts from female Jedi to female Jedi that wasn't in a cartoon, didn't die horribly, and had a certain number of lines. This woman doesn't care about Star Wars, neither do her beta SIMP orbiters and the legions of dangerhairs.
For that reason, she is the worst Star Wars novelization writer, in the end, it wasn't the subject or writing style, it was her piss poor attitude. Worst Star Wars novelization ever, actually, I think the book is worse than the movie.
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So I guess Rosario Dawnson has been cast as Ahsoka for Mandalorian Season 2.
www.ign.com
Rosario Dawson Reportedly Cast as Ahsoka Tano in The Mandalorian: Season 2 - IGN
Ahsoka Tano will reportedly finally be appearing in live-action as SlashFilm reports that Rosario Dawson has been cast as the fan-favorite character in season 2 of The Mandalorian.
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I'm so sorry @Cyril Sneer.So I guess Rosario Dawnson has been cast as Ahsoka for Mandalorian Season 2.
Rosario Dawson Reportedly Cast as Ahsoka Tano in The Mandalorian: Season 2 - IGN
Ahsoka Tano will reportedly finally be appearing in live-action as SlashFilm reports that Rosario Dawson has been cast as the fan-favorite character in season 2 of The Mandalorian.
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Well its not Brie Larson or tessa thompson so I see this as an absolute winSo I guess Rosario Dawnson has been cast as Ahsoka for Mandalorian Season 2.
Rosario Dawson Reportedly Cast as Ahsoka Tano in The Mandalorian: Season 2 - IGN
Ahsoka Tano will reportedly finally be appearing in live-action as SlashFilm reports that Rosario Dawson has been cast as the fan-favorite character in season 2 of The Mandalorian.
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She was one of the Jedi voices in Plan IX so maybe this is where she finally dies
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Lmao people are fucking butthurt that Rosario is playing her.
People still mad about that unconfirmed troon incident in her family. I highly doubt she would ever do what has been claimed. Maybe ppl in her family yes but not her.
People still mad about that unconfirmed troon incident in her family. I highly doubt she would ever do what has been claimed. Maybe ppl in her family yes but not her.
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Of course they are. As I said before when I covered everything about the hotel, the whole thing looks like a financial disaster or a safety hazard in the making. The prices for stay are insane and they seem more dedicated to making it feel like a cruise line. The hotel is over halfway complete and is expected to open in the Summer or around the November of 2021.
Also in regards to High Republic, here is a full view of a few of the Disneyfied Sith Gods, some plant monsters and a "specter" (top left) as some call it.
The first one (top left) looks like a Starweird (I've covered them before). The second one (bottom left) looks like something I saw in a non-SW comic once. The third one looks like a few monsters from the old Ewoks cartoon. The fourth one looks like Abeloth's monster form but plantish. Fifth one (top right) looks like a Predator with a palm tree on its head. Sixth one looks like a Vong or Vong deity... The thing is the Vong's deities aren't actually Sith Gods. They're actually a misinterpretation of their homeworld which was a gigantic living organism in the form of a planet which was itself the "experiment" of something much bigger.
Continuing on from where I left off (and if you just got here, I suggest you read at least the introductions of the previous posts, as most of this is a compilation of old canon material and alleged early versions of the cancelled guideline expansion that later became an unofficially published novella).
If you just got here, read this first: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-...rise-of-skywalker-spoilers.32492/post-6164596
The Precursors mentioned thus far were without a doubt the most well known of the Firstborn Precursors, but there existed others. Among the other known lesser Precursors were...
The Sharu.
A highly advanced species who seemed to on top of the world. They enjoyed visiting as many worlds as they could and building large pyramid-like structures. They were essentially the Caamasi of the Gree, being a species that specialized in teaching primitives about technology and aiding the Gree in their expansionist efforts, although the Sharu had their fair share of priests and historians. They were a peaceful and advanced society whose only flaw was their penchant for exaggerations and tall tales, often sharing their tales of the Precursors and early history with other aliens, resulting in many different contradictions, even within the Sharu's own records and glyphs. They also had a close friendship with the Mu-Ab and their droid creations the Silentium. However, their peaceful days came to end when the Old Ones began the Cosmic Wars against the Celestials once more. To ensure their survival, all Sharu across the galaxy returned to their homeworld and retreated to their vaults beneath their planet's surface. But before their self-exile, the Sharu invented the Mindharp, an amazing technology imbued with the Force that was connected to the Sharu's own genetic code. Created so that should the Sharu ever degenerate their descendants could play the harp and restore the knowledge of their ancestors, but as time passed the mindharp was lost. As predicted, their descendants did degenerate into the primitive Toka who believed the Sharu were Gods rather than their ancestors. But with the aid of a young and treasure-seeking Lando Calrissian, the Mindharp was rediscovered and the Toka became the Sharu once more, although it would take time for the Toka to truly make full use of this gift.
A highly advanced species who seemed to on top of the world. They enjoyed visiting as many worlds as they could and building large pyramid-like structures. They were essentially the Caamasi of the Gree, being a species that specialized in teaching primitives about technology and aiding the Gree in their expansionist efforts, although the Sharu had their fair share of priests and historians. They were a peaceful and advanced society whose only flaw was their penchant for exaggerations and tall tales, often sharing their tales of the Precursors and early history with other aliens, resulting in many different contradictions, even within the Sharu's own records and glyphs. They also had a close friendship with the Mu-Ab and their droid creations the Silentium. However, their peaceful days came to end when the Old Ones began the Cosmic Wars against the Celestials once more. To ensure their survival, all Sharu across the galaxy returned to their homeworld and retreated to their vaults beneath their planet's surface. But before their self-exile, the Sharu invented the Mindharp, an amazing technology imbued with the Force that was connected to the Sharu's own genetic code. Created so that should the Sharu ever degenerate their descendants could play the harp and restore the knowledge of their ancestors, but as time passed the mindharp was lost. As predicted, their descendants did degenerate into the primitive Toka who believed the Sharu were Gods rather than their ancestors. But with the aid of a young and treasure-seeking Lando Calrissian, the Mindharp was rediscovered and the Toka became the Sharu once more, although it would take time for the Toka to truly make full use of this gift.
The Xaxax aka the Great Designers of Iokath.
The Great Designers were the sole Precursors of the impassable Unknown Regions. As such, they had almost half the galaxy under their control, keeping all others out. They were masters of technology on par with the Gree, building space stations capable of teleportation, discovering cures for all manner of diseases within the Unknown Regions thus allowing species to prosper, and they even created their own machine planet, the first of its kind, called Iokath. However their greatest achievement that set them apart from the other Precursors was their destructive power, for they are the fathers of superweapons. After the end of the Cosmic Wars and the departure of the Celestials, their hearts became blackened with desire to see just how powerful they could be, and so they created the first ancient means of destroying planets which they would casually test out on worlds within the Unknown Regions for the sake of their twisted scientific pursuit. Making them morally dubious entities, even casually undermining the suffering they caused, simply giving their victims the time, means and resources to rebuild on a new world, as if that were enough for the genocides they caused. Despite this, no ill-will was had towards them by their victims in the Unknown Regions, for when the Cosmic Wars began, the Xaxax were the first to defend themselves and the people of the Unknown Regions, and they proved a deadly force even the Old Ones were cautious of, ensuring that all within the Unknown Regions would see the Xaxax as gods.
Over time, the Xaxax went further in their pursuits, creating invincible machine gods that caused untold destruction. However Xaxax reign of amorality came to an end when civil war erupted amongst their kin, using their own machine gods to destroy themselves in the process. Their machine gods then left to conquer their own world to be worshiped and praised on, becoming known as the Six Gods of Zakuul.
The Great Designers were the sole Precursors of the impassable Unknown Regions. As such, they had almost half the galaxy under their control, keeping all others out. They were masters of technology on par with the Gree, building space stations capable of teleportation, discovering cures for all manner of diseases within the Unknown Regions thus allowing species to prosper, and they even created their own machine planet, the first of its kind, called Iokath. However their greatest achievement that set them apart from the other Precursors was their destructive power, for they are the fathers of superweapons. After the end of the Cosmic Wars and the departure of the Celestials, their hearts became blackened with desire to see just how powerful they could be, and so they created the first ancient means of destroying planets which they would casually test out on worlds within the Unknown Regions for the sake of their twisted scientific pursuit. Making them morally dubious entities, even casually undermining the suffering they caused, simply giving their victims the time, means and resources to rebuild on a new world, as if that were enough for the genocides they caused. Despite this, no ill-will was had towards them by their victims in the Unknown Regions, for when the Cosmic Wars began, the Xaxax were the first to defend themselves and the people of the Unknown Regions, and they proved a deadly force even the Old Ones were cautious of, ensuring that all within the Unknown Regions would see the Xaxax as gods.
Over time, the Xaxax went further in their pursuits, creating invincible machine gods that caused untold destruction. However Xaxax reign of amorality came to an end when civil war erupted amongst their kin, using their own machine gods to destroy themselves in the process. Their machine gods then left to conquer their own world to be worshiped and praised on, becoming known as the Six Gods of Zakuul.
The Lucent (real name unpronounceable).
These creatures are quite possibly the most mysterious of the Precursors in that not even other Precursors knew much about them. Legend has it that they are the fathers of all arachnids or at least the ancestors of spider-like sentients, but this has never been confirmed. What is known is that they're always watching. Watching every single thing you do, right down to that questionable shit you took (better go see a doctor). Why do they do this? Absolutely no reason. They are just insanely curious and like learning everything they can about people like friendly stalkers. So they know a lot yet no one knows much about them. What is known is that they're very nice. In fact too nice. They went around many worlds sharing technology, protecting primitives from asteroids, and giving out gifts for free. Their only problem is that when they share something, they expect everyone to share it with each other. So when the Republic first discovered them, they wanted their tech, and the Lucent happily agreed to give it to them for free, but only if all the ruling parties of the galaxy got to share it, including the Empire and the Hutts. So when they gave something to primitive worlds for free, they got it, but so did their enemies, thus disastrous wars got worse. They also have some of the most unique tech in the galaxy, with all of it revolving around crystals and strange networks of crystal-like webs, with them constructing weapons, defenses and other such fancy crap, and even their tech that's not made out of webs has a web-theme to it. During the Cosmic Wars, they even covered thousands of planets in giant web-shaped defense grids to keep them safe from the Old Ones. Out of all the Precursors, they've never had any problems and are probably the most successful without ever achieving apotheosis.
These creatures are quite possibly the most mysterious of the Precursors in that not even other Precursors knew much about them. Legend has it that they are the fathers of all arachnids or at least the ancestors of spider-like sentients, but this has never been confirmed. What is known is that they're always watching. Watching every single thing you do, right down to that questionable shit you took (better go see a doctor). Why do they do this? Absolutely no reason. They are just insanely curious and like learning everything they can about people like friendly stalkers. So they know a lot yet no one knows much about them. What is known is that they're very nice. In fact too nice. They went around many worlds sharing technology, protecting primitives from asteroids, and giving out gifts for free. Their only problem is that when they share something, they expect everyone to share it with each other. So when the Republic first discovered them, they wanted their tech, and the Lucent happily agreed to give it to them for free, but only if all the ruling parties of the galaxy got to share it, including the Empire and the Hutts. So when they gave something to primitive worlds for free, they got it, but so did their enemies, thus disastrous wars got worse. They also have some of the most unique tech in the galaxy, with all of it revolving around crystals and strange networks of crystal-like webs, with them constructing weapons, defenses and other such fancy crap, and even their tech that's not made out of webs has a web-theme to it. During the Cosmic Wars, they even covered thousands of planets in giant web-shaped defense grids to keep them safe from the Old Ones. Out of all the Precursors, they've never had any problems and are probably the most successful without ever achieving apotheosis.
The Neti.
Quite possibly the first plant-based sentient species to exist and the ancestors of other plant sentients. The Neti are living vines capable of altering their shape to more bipedal ones, a trait most of their descendants would inherit. They were not particularly advanced for Precursors, but they had achieved spacetravel and had formed some kind of kindred alliance with the Kwa as both species were friendly philosophers and theologists that were strong in the Force. The Neti primarily spent their time traveling to as many worlds as they could and taking up root there or making new life in the form of descendants, genetic progeny, hybrids or simply planting flora. They primarily spent their time taking care of their "children" and protecting them while they matured. Eventually they fell to near-extinction and myth, but a few individuals would survive centuries after the Battle of Yavin.
Quite possibly the first plant-based sentient species to exist and the ancestors of other plant sentients. The Neti are living vines capable of altering their shape to more bipedal ones, a trait most of their descendants would inherit. They were not particularly advanced for Precursors, but they had achieved spacetravel and had formed some kind of kindred alliance with the Kwa as both species were friendly philosophers and theologists that were strong in the Force. The Neti primarily spent their time traveling to as many worlds as they could and taking up root there or making new life in the form of descendants, genetic progeny, hybrids or simply planting flora. They primarily spent their time taking care of their "children" and protecting them while they matured. Eventually they fell to near-extinction and myth, but a few individuals would survive centuries after the Battle of Yavin.
The Krevaaki.
A joyful race of travelers whose real delight was engineering new species and teaching worlds about the dangers of materialism and the importance of spirituality. They also liked "honoring" primitive sapients by making "copies" of their species and spreading them to other planets so that their likeness would always exist even if they should go extinct. Notably, they had a particularly special fondness for a new species called the Zhell when they first discovered them on Notron, but they were off-limits for 'unknown' reasons. So much so was their fondness that they wanted to have Zhell "children" of their own, so they created a new species to honor the Zhell which they affectionately called "Little Osserians" (named after another Precursor species who they also shared a friendship with) and gave them a world of their own which they would call Mala. Sadly their "children" became rebellious, believing themselves to be greater than the Krevaaki, even scorning the name their creators had given them and now calling themselves the "Malak". They even began wearing twisted versions of the ceremonial armor of their creators to prove their superiority. The Malaks gained a god complex and even tried to enslave the Zhell and many other species by claiming to be their creators. The Malaks proved to be dangerous and ambitious, with the only thing holding them back being the Krevaaki who were hesitant about killing their "children".
Eventually, Malaks chose to create the "ultimate" species to prove their superiority once and for all, a powerful species to serve as an army of living weapons that would destroy all that stood in its way, but the Malaks were too blinded by their arrogance, and their creations proved too savage and unstable to control, with the Malaks eventually being almost destroyed by their heinously powerful creations, leaving only a few survivors who abandoned the ways of the Malak and chose a peaceful existence on Mala. The dreadful abominations created by the Malak were terrors of pitch-black evil, strong and persistent in their survival, making them near-impossible to wipe out, and screeched with a terrible howl as if to display their dominance to the galaxy, but in the end were barely subdued by the Krevaaki and sent to an isolated world where they would hopefully do no harm and the Krevaaki chose to fall from grace for their mistakes... These abominations became nameless terrors unknown to many, but I'm sure if anyone here remembers some of my posts here from back in late September 2019, they might figure out which species this is.
A joyful race of travelers whose real delight was engineering new species and teaching worlds about the dangers of materialism and the importance of spirituality. They also liked "honoring" primitive sapients by making "copies" of their species and spreading them to other planets so that their likeness would always exist even if they should go extinct. Notably, they had a particularly special fondness for a new species called the Zhell when they first discovered them on Notron, but they were off-limits for 'unknown' reasons. So much so was their fondness that they wanted to have Zhell "children" of their own, so they created a new species to honor the Zhell which they affectionately called "Little Osserians" (named after another Precursor species who they also shared a friendship with) and gave them a world of their own which they would call Mala. Sadly their "children" became rebellious, believing themselves to be greater than the Krevaaki, even scorning the name their creators had given them and now calling themselves the "Malak". They even began wearing twisted versions of the ceremonial armor of their creators to prove their superiority. The Malaks gained a god complex and even tried to enslave the Zhell and many other species by claiming to be their creators. The Malaks proved to be dangerous and ambitious, with the only thing holding them back being the Krevaaki who were hesitant about killing their "children".
Eventually, Malaks chose to create the "ultimate" species to prove their superiority once and for all, a powerful species to serve as an army of living weapons that would destroy all that stood in its way, but the Malaks were too blinded by their arrogance, and their creations proved too savage and unstable to control, with the Malaks eventually being almost destroyed by their heinously powerful creations, leaving only a few survivors who abandoned the ways of the Malak and chose a peaceful existence on Mala. The dreadful abominations created by the Malak were terrors of pitch-black evil, strong and persistent in their survival, making them near-impossible to wipe out, and screeched with a terrible howl as if to display their dominance to the galaxy, but in the end were barely subdued by the Krevaaki and sent to an isolated world where they would hopefully do no harm and the Krevaaki chose to fall from grace for their mistakes... These abominations became nameless terrors unknown to many, but I'm sure if anyone here remembers some of my posts here from back in late September 2019, they might figure out which species this is.
The Siniteen.
These guys are what happens when one colony of Columi actually finds a world that doesn't suck too much and decided to stick with it. As such the Siniteen most closely resemble what the Columi used to be like. Much like their main family, the Siniteen are super intelligent dicks, but they're actually more willing to talk to others and not put so much importance on your IQ, due to that their big brains are only useful for calculations and memory, instead they only care about benefits and profits. Naturally they became allies of the Gree and spread technology around for a bit (for a price), until they found better ways to exploit others. When the Cosmic Wars began, the Gree and the Kwa requested the help of the Siniteens to help them and aid unprotected worlds with their big brains, but the Siniteen said "NOPE", closed their borders and never spoke to anyone again for centuries. Sitting in their homes until the Cosmic War blew over and happily watching their allies die and worlds get fucked. When it did blow over (as they coldly calculated), they started their ownscams legitimate businesses and formed their own stock exchange and banking system. In short, they're smart under achieving con-artists.
These guys are what happens when one colony of Columi actually finds a world that doesn't suck too much and decided to stick with it. As such the Siniteen most closely resemble what the Columi used to be like. Much like their main family, the Siniteen are super intelligent dicks, but they're actually more willing to talk to others and not put so much importance on your IQ, due to that their big brains are only useful for calculations and memory, instead they only care about benefits and profits. Naturally they became allies of the Gree and spread technology around for a bit (for a price), until they found better ways to exploit others. When the Cosmic Wars began, the Gree and the Kwa requested the help of the Siniteens to help them and aid unprotected worlds with their big brains, but the Siniteen said "NOPE", closed their borders and never spoke to anyone again for centuries. Sitting in their homes until the Cosmic War blew over and happily watching their allies die and worlds get fucked. When it did blow over (as they coldly calculated), they started their own
The Alashanians aka the People of the Wing.
Quite possibly another Kathol offshoot that lived below ground. The Alashans were also skilled at bioengineering creatures with a similar genetic make up to the Kathol and built the legendary City of Forever, which served as the main hub for other Precursors to interact and trade. The notion of violence and war were completely alien to the Alashanians, even hunting was foreign to their culture, not even being able to perceive the idea. Instead only engineering life and architecture. That was until... the Zhell came. The Zhell were still young and still exploring. A small Zhell party of poachers came to the world of the Alashans, seeking treasure and wild game. That is when they were found by the Alashans. The Alashans were utterly bewildered by what they saw in this species as they stole treasures from temples and hunted the falcons of this land. The Alashans could forgive the theft, for they had no need of such goods, but the death of their creatures was something they could not forgive, thus they confronted and arrested the Zhell party, and sent them back through the hypergate they came from and destroyed their only entryway back to the Alashan. What they did not know was is that these Zhell were of the noble-class in their world, and as such the Zhell of Notron saw this as an act of war, especially after the party began to spread word of the winged "murderous" terrors to the populating. Retaliating back by sabotaging the Alashans' Infinity Gate, the Gate released a wave of energy that destroyed their world, but the Alashan survived due to their status as servants of the Celestials. The Alashan however were not happy, desiring vengeance, but their anger only grew when the Celestials told them to forgive the primitive Zhell for their transgressions which was not of their own doing, for that... is a story for another time. It was at this time that a mysterious voice spoke to the Alashans, "warning" them of the Celestials, telling them that war and death was the only way, and this entity promised to give them the weapons and powers of destruction they so craved so long as they accepted her as the true Maker.
This led to misery and destruction for all, just as the Celestials had feared. And in the end the Alashans realized the truth behind the destruction of their world that they were too blinded by anger to see before. They let their anger seduce them to the Dark Side and brought forth untold misery to others and themselves, swearing to never again fall to the Dark Side's temptation and shed blood in anger. They instead dedicated themselves to rebuilding the City of Forever hoping to serve as a symbol unity for the Firstborn once more. When the Old Ones returned for the final cosmic war, the Alashans stayed true to their vow against war and instead used their advanced computers to seal themselves away in a virtual recreation of their world, where they would remain forever more.
Their legacy would live on in one of their created progeny, the S'kytri who were made in their own image but unlike their progenitors had their own ways and embraced the code of the warrior.
Quite possibly another Kathol offshoot that lived below ground. The Alashans were also skilled at bioengineering creatures with a similar genetic make up to the Kathol and built the legendary City of Forever, which served as the main hub for other Precursors to interact and trade. The notion of violence and war were completely alien to the Alashanians, even hunting was foreign to their culture, not even being able to perceive the idea. Instead only engineering life and architecture. That was until... the Zhell came. The Zhell were still young and still exploring. A small Zhell party of poachers came to the world of the Alashans, seeking treasure and wild game. That is when they were found by the Alashans. The Alashans were utterly bewildered by what they saw in this species as they stole treasures from temples and hunted the falcons of this land. The Alashans could forgive the theft, for they had no need of such goods, but the death of their creatures was something they could not forgive, thus they confronted and arrested the Zhell party, and sent them back through the hypergate they came from and destroyed their only entryway back to the Alashan. What they did not know was is that these Zhell were of the noble-class in their world, and as such the Zhell of Notron saw this as an act of war, especially after the party began to spread word of the winged "murderous" terrors to the populating. Retaliating back by sabotaging the Alashans' Infinity Gate, the Gate released a wave of energy that destroyed their world, but the Alashan survived due to their status as servants of the Celestials. The Alashan however were not happy, desiring vengeance, but their anger only grew when the Celestials told them to forgive the primitive Zhell for their transgressions which was not of their own doing, for that... is a story for another time. It was at this time that a mysterious voice spoke to the Alashans, "warning" them of the Celestials, telling them that war and death was the only way, and this entity promised to give them the weapons and powers of destruction they so craved so long as they accepted her as the true Maker.
This led to misery and destruction for all, just as the Celestials had feared. And in the end the Alashans realized the truth behind the destruction of their world that they were too blinded by anger to see before. They let their anger seduce them to the Dark Side and brought forth untold misery to others and themselves, swearing to never again fall to the Dark Side's temptation and shed blood in anger. They instead dedicated themselves to rebuilding the City of Forever hoping to serve as a symbol unity for the Firstborn once more. When the Old Ones returned for the final cosmic war, the Alashans stayed true to their vow against war and instead used their advanced computers to seal themselves away in a virtual recreation of their world, where they would remain forever more.
Their legacy would live on in one of their created progeny, the S'kytri who were made in their own image but unlike their progenitors had their own ways and embraced the code of the warrior.
The Caamasi.
They like the Kwa were a society focused on compassion and understanding, were advanced enough to make basic spaceships and were given access to the Kwa's infinity gates. Naturally they shared close ties to the Kwa, helping them spread their teachings of unity, compassion and the Force throughout the Galaxy, even among the troublemaking Zhell during their own times of conflict. Because of this they were less focused on creating and more focused on spreading peace and diplomacy. But unlike the Kwa, the Caamasi would bare their fangs to those who would do them harm. Making them paradoxically one of the most peaceful yet vicious of the Precursors.
In self-defense of course... Over time they went through their own dark ages and lost much of their history, becoming much like the rest of the Galaxy.
They like the Kwa were a society focused on compassion and understanding, were advanced enough to make basic spaceships and were given access to the Kwa's infinity gates. Naturally they shared close ties to the Kwa, helping them spread their teachings of unity, compassion and the Force throughout the Galaxy, even among the troublemaking Zhell during their own times of conflict. Because of this they were less focused on creating and more focused on spreading peace and diplomacy. But unlike the Kwa, the Caamasi would bare their fangs to those who would do them harm. Making them paradoxically one of the most peaceful yet vicious of the Precursors.
In self-defense of course... Over time they went through their own dark ages and lost much of their history, becoming much like the rest of the Galaxy.
The Sunesi.
They were much like the Caamasi, traveling allies of the Kwa who also preached their message as well as teaching developing species the art of medicine. Although a few Precursors had already gained understanding of the Force and the Celestials, the Sunesi were the ones who first acknowledged The Maker and the Celestials as the caretakers. The Sunesi would still survive many centuries later still holding true to their teachings even if the history of the Precursors had become shrouded to them as well.
They were much like the Caamasi, traveling allies of the Kwa who also preached their message as well as teaching developing species the art of medicine. Although a few Precursors had already gained understanding of the Force and the Celestials, the Sunesi were the ones who first acknowledged The Maker and the Celestials as the caretakers. The Sunesi would still survive many centuries later still holding true to their teachings even if the history of the Precursors had become shrouded to them as well.
The Duinuogwuin aka the Star Dragons.
The Star Dragons as they were called by the Zhell were quite possibly the most long-lived of the Precursors, with lifespans said to range from 4000 to 20,000 or more. They were not technologically-inclined but could survive in space thanks to their unique biology. Through methods similar to the Aing-Tii, they could travel between worlds without ships or hypergates, where they would spread wisdom and morality (making them allies of the Kwa), causing them to be worshiped on primitive worlds. Their species was considered noble and elegant, but all that would come to an end when they fell victim to a cruel plot set forth by the Old Ones that would ensure that their descendants would be born as savage and mindless creatures for generations to come, and their children would be banished to barren or sparsely populated worlds where they would go on to evolve into the most fearsome apex predators in the galaxy. Resulting in the species dwindling, causing many Star Dragons to choose extinction or isolation.
The Star Dragons as they were called by the Zhell were quite possibly the most long-lived of the Precursors, with lifespans said to range from 4000 to 20,000 or more. They were not technologically-inclined but could survive in space thanks to their unique biology. Through methods similar to the Aing-Tii, they could travel between worlds without ships or hypergates, where they would spread wisdom and morality (making them allies of the Kwa), causing them to be worshiped on primitive worlds. Their species was considered noble and elegant, but all that would come to an end when they fell victim to a cruel plot set forth by the Old Ones that would ensure that their descendants would be born as savage and mindless creatures for generations to come, and their children would be banished to barren or sparsely populated worlds where they would go on to evolve into the most fearsome apex predators in the galaxy. Resulting in the species dwindling, causing many Star Dragons to choose extinction or isolation.
The Diathim aka the Angels.
The Diathim of Iego were the most loving of the Precursors. Though they were primitive, they could travel the stars through their own will, as they could coat their bodies in a mysterious outer shell that protected them from the harshness of space and using the hypergates and worm holes for travel. They were the first to discover how to use the Force to heal, and their main passion was going to worlds and teaching them how to heal with the Force or healing others that did not have the talent for it, having an almost parental attachment to any they came across. They were said to be biologically unique, not even needing to breath. They were regarded as the most beautiful of creatures, especially among the Zhell, and even the Celestials compared their beauty to that found in the primary realm.
The Diathim of Iego were the most loving of the Precursors. Though they were primitive, they could travel the stars through their own will, as they could coat their bodies in a mysterious outer shell that protected them from the harshness of space and using the hypergates and worm holes for travel. They were the first to discover how to use the Force to heal, and their main passion was going to worlds and teaching them how to heal with the Force or healing others that did not have the talent for it, having an almost parental attachment to any they came across. They were said to be biologically unique, not even needing to breath. They were regarded as the most beautiful of creatures, especially among the Zhell, and even the Celestials compared their beauty to that found in the primary realm.
The Celegians.
Essentially floating superbrains. Unlike most Precursors, they were simply scouts, exploring any worlds they could and learning as much as they could about them.
Essentially floating superbrains. Unlike most Precursors, they were simply scouts, exploring any worlds they could and learning as much as they could about them.
The Sephi.
The Sephi themselves were not masters of anything in particular, except for art, gardening and their long lifespan of 400 years. They were ambitious and adventurous and were one of the first to set out into space. Many Sephi expeditions were launched and they colonized many worlds, and these colonies would end up evolving uniquely, becoming many unique species of their own with their own unique cultures and appearances. As such the Sephi subspecies would end up becoming one of the most common sights in the galaxy and having one of the oldest dominions. Even sharing a brief rivalry and kinship with the Zhell at several points. They were also one of the first (or maybe even THE first) member species to join the Galactic Republic after the Zhell and Duros founded it, becoming the Republic's most staunch supporters, and they were even regarded as the unofficial rulers of the Sumitra Sector of the Galaxy. It remained this way for thousands of years until the Clone Wars broke out.
In short, they're space elves but with none of the innate dickishness common to elves across so many other franchises.
The Sephi themselves were not masters of anything in particular, except for art, gardening and their long lifespan of 400 years. They were ambitious and adventurous and were one of the first to set out into space. Many Sephi expeditions were launched and they colonized many worlds, and these colonies would end up evolving uniquely, becoming many unique species of their own with their own unique cultures and appearances. As such the Sephi subspecies would end up becoming one of the most common sights in the galaxy and having one of the oldest dominions. Even sharing a brief rivalry and kinship with the Zhell at several points. They were also one of the first (or maybe even THE first) member species to join the Galactic Republic after the Zhell and Duros founded it, becoming the Republic's most staunch supporters, and they were even regarded as the unofficial rulers of the Sumitra Sector of the Galaxy. It remained this way for thousands of years until the Clone Wars broke out.
In short, they're space elves but with none of the innate dickishness common to elves across so many other franchises.
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The Catuman.
These beings are much like the Sephi. They are the cause of all feline sentient species plaguing the galaxy, with said species being descendants of Catuman colonies.
Fittingly enough, the Catuman were the first feline aliens in SW, first seen in the 1970s Marvel comics.
These beings are much like the Sephi. They are the cause of all feline sentient species plaguing the galaxy, with said species being descendants of Catuman colonies.
Fittingly enough, the Catuman were the first feline aliens in SW, first seen in the 1970s Marvel comics.
The Ahra Naffi aka the Qonet and finally the Qella.
The Naffi were quite similar to the Kathol, possibly another offshoot of theirs. The Naffi were fond of aquatic planets and so spent their time helping such worlds by altering or engineering new animals to improve their ecosystem, having a special fondness for cephalopods. In the end though, the Naffi fell to a similar fate as the Kathol and the Indur thanks to the Cosmic Wars caused by the Old Ones, and to ensure their survival, they created hardier "descendants" in the form of the Qonet from their own genes. However the Qonet too went through their own dark ages and faced the threat of extinction, resulting in them doing what the Naffi did and making their own more resilient descendants in the form of the Qella who would hopefully be more durable. But it seems luck was not on their side either, as the less intelligent Qella were ill-suited to protect their world from the fall of their moon. So with the little time they had left, they built a shuttle containing their history, relics and genetic material and sent it into the stars hoping that their legacy might live on. An enterprising Lando stumbled upon this vessel and thanks to modern cloning, this species might have a chance to live once more.
The Naffi were quite similar to the Kathol, possibly another offshoot of theirs. The Naffi were fond of aquatic planets and so spent their time helping such worlds by altering or engineering new animals to improve their ecosystem, having a special fondness for cephalopods. In the end though, the Naffi fell to a similar fate as the Kathol and the Indur thanks to the Cosmic Wars caused by the Old Ones, and to ensure their survival, they created hardier "descendants" in the form of the Qonet from their own genes. However the Qonet too went through their own dark ages and faced the threat of extinction, resulting in them doing what the Naffi did and making their own more resilient descendants in the form of the Qella who would hopefully be more durable. But it seems luck was not on their side either, as the less intelligent Qella were ill-suited to protect their world from the fall of their moon. So with the little time they had left, they built a shuttle containing their history, relics and genetic material and sent it into the stars hoping that their legacy might live on. An enterprising Lando stumbled upon this vessel and thanks to modern cloning, this species might have a chance to live once more.
The Pelgrin.
A relatively primitive species that never really advanced in anything. They were skilled in architecture and could copy any technology if presented with it. But despite their uneventful existence, these creatures created what was quite possibly the oldest structure in the Galaxy, the Oracle, almost 2 million years ago, a structure which even the Precursors were impressed by and which would hold importance for future generations. The Pelgrin were a truly mysterious lot despite how primitive they were. They created this tower as a means of calling the gods for answers and salvation. And much to their surprise, it worked centuries later. For when the Cosmic Wars entered their final phase, they used the tower to pray for salvation and then mysteriously disappeared, supposedly taken away to the new world the Celestials would build after completing Skyriver.
A relatively primitive species that never really advanced in anything. They were skilled in architecture and could copy any technology if presented with it. But despite their uneventful existence, these creatures created what was quite possibly the oldest structure in the Galaxy, the Oracle, almost 2 million years ago, a structure which even the Precursors were impressed by and which would hold importance for future generations. The Pelgrin were a truly mysterious lot despite how primitive they were. They created this tower as a means of calling the gods for answers and salvation. And much to their surprise, it worked centuries later. For when the Cosmic Wars entered their final phase, they used the tower to pray for salvation and then mysteriously disappeared, supposedly taken away to the new world the Celestials would build after completing Skyriver.
The Eellayin.
Not much is known about these weirdos except that they colonized a few worlds after their homeworld blew up and that they were the Precursors who discovered the first forms of advanced medical science. The Kallidahin (the faceless ones from Revenge of the Sith) longed to know if the Eellayin really were their ancestors. Although its possible they are actually creations of theirs, as with the Kathol and their creations.
Not much is known about these weirdos except that they colonized a few worlds after their homeworld blew up and that they were the Precursors who discovered the first forms of advanced medical science. The Kallidahin (the faceless ones from Revenge of the Sith) longed to know if the Eellayin really were their ancestors. Although its possible they are actually creations of theirs, as with the Kathol and their creations.
The Shola.
One of the earliest species to achieve a relatively modern technological society, probably even as old as the Columi, Kathol, Kwa and Gree. They progressed rapidly, but unlike other Precursors though, they progressed so fast that they sought to explore and mine the deepest depths of the underground first before venturing to the stars. In doing so they discovered that planets had molten cores... Then their planet went full Krakatoa and then everyone died. The End.
One of the earliest species to achieve a relatively modern technological society, probably even as old as the Columi, Kathol, Kwa and Gree. They progressed rapidly, but unlike other Precursors though, they progressed so fast that they sought to explore and mine the deepest depths of the underground first before venturing to the stars. In doing so they discovered that planets had molten cores... Then their planet went full Krakatoa and then everyone died. The End.
The Bith.
We all know these fellas. While their civilization is ancient and they interacted with the Precursors, life started a bit late on their planet so by the time the Precursors were already reaching for the stars, the Bith were still figuring out how to build spaceships, so they didn't have a chance to join the Precursor club. But hey at least they were still regarded as the most intelligent of the non-Precursors. So they get an honorary mention!
We all know these fellas. While their civilization is ancient and they interacted with the Precursors, life started a bit late on their planet so by the time the Precursors were already reaching for the stars, the Bith were still figuring out how to build spaceships, so they didn't have a chance to join the Precursor club. But hey at least they were still regarded as the most intelligent of the non-Precursors. So they get an honorary mention!
The Osserians...
The Osserians were much like the Kathol, in fact, the Kathol may have come from them for all I know. The Osserians were masters of almost everything, technology, genetics, physics, space travel, The Force... anything really. They were essentially all the best traits of the Precursors rolled up into one balanced class. But they were true masters of one talent: terraforming, changing barren deserts to worlds of jungles and worlds of lava into snow. They were also said to have engineered and accelerated the evolution of a number of species on a wider scale than those of the Kathol, although the exact number may never be known. The Osserians proved the most reliable of the Precursors and were loved by their kin, and they were the only other species besides the Whills to have the perfect and most truest chronicle of history, and not just their history, but the history of the Celestials themselves, the only ones to ever record it, but which would never be found, because this chronicle had no desire to be found. The reason they knew so much may possibly lie in their origins, origins that may tie them to something from the realm that was left behind... Perhaps they were made in the image of something that was left behind or perchance preserved purity from that fabled first realm... No one can say. What can be said is that this race went through much suffering, but they survived. Even through the dreadful Cosmic Wars against the Old Ones, they survived and aided others, staying true to the way of the Celestials through and through while others chose ascension, extinction or abandonment. But as with all Precursors, they too fell to doom, this time not from Old Ones, but from their fellow mortals. Realizing that war would never cease, they chose to leave their world behind, but in doing so, their fate would quite possibly be the cruelest fate to befall any of the fallen Precursors... but that story is one that can only be known by gazing into the countless cold eyes of the Old Ones themselves...
The Osserians were much like the Kathol, in fact, the Kathol may have come from them for all I know. The Osserians were masters of almost everything, technology, genetics, physics, space travel, The Force... anything really. They were essentially all the best traits of the Precursors rolled up into one balanced class. But they were true masters of one talent: terraforming, changing barren deserts to worlds of jungles and worlds of lava into snow. They were also said to have engineered and accelerated the evolution of a number of species on a wider scale than those of the Kathol, although the exact number may never be known. The Osserians proved the most reliable of the Precursors and were loved by their kin, and they were the only other species besides the Whills to have the perfect and most truest chronicle of history, and not just their history, but the history of the Celestials themselves, the only ones to ever record it, but which would never be found, because this chronicle had no desire to be found. The reason they knew so much may possibly lie in their origins, origins that may tie them to something from the realm that was left behind... Perhaps they were made in the image of something that was left behind or perchance preserved purity from that fabled first realm... No one can say. What can be said is that this race went through much suffering, but they survived. Even through the dreadful Cosmic Wars against the Old Ones, they survived and aided others, staying true to the way of the Celestials through and through while others chose ascension, extinction or abandonment. But as with all Precursors, they too fell to doom, this time not from Old Ones, but from their fellow mortals. Realizing that war would never cease, they chose to leave their world behind, but in doing so, their fate would quite possibly be the cruelest fate to befall any of the fallen Precursors... but that story is one that can only be known by gazing into the countless cold eyes of the Old Ones themselves...
THE NEXT SHITPOST: PART XVIII
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Godamnit Matt Stover why ouldnt you come back and find a way to salvage something from the whole mess.OK Prepare for the end and loads of nerd rage.
1) The novel confirms that Kylo Ren found a TIE in the Death Star II hanger, many doubted this assuming he went back to his flag ship and took one, but the one in the movie is obviously an Imperial TIE fighter. Now the issue with this is that Imperial TIEs didn't have a hyperdrive but it would've been worthless. The movie says it was a Scout TIE, which appeared in the Thrawn Trilogy. According to the canon article on Wookieepedia, there's no indication that these had a hyperdrive. If it did, then that fixes the issue with how he got there, but it still leaves the issue that he found a working TIE on the Death Star's wreckage, which 3PO confirmed was underwater for 10 years.
2) More poor writing with this beautiful quote: "She took one step forward. Another."
3) Carson acknowledges that Ben shouldn't've thrown away his saber. "Maybe it had been a bit premature to throw his lightsaber into the sea." She insists a blaster wouldn't do any good, although Mauler and co. claim a blaster would be great against people holding melee weapons, by the way, we never see the Knights of Ren use the Force, it's possible they don't even have it.
4) How Palpatine survived is just a total rip off of Dark Empire, but we knew that. His soul left his body and astrally projected into a clone on Exegol. It apparently was an excruciating experience. The Sith Eternal kept splicing genes, so I assume that means that the Snokes were failed Palpatine clones, along with Rey's father. The reason Palpatine didn't use clones is because the Sith Eternals couldn't make one and Kamino got quarantined because of Coronavirus, so they couldn't hit them up.
5) The Rule of Two was an attempt by every Sith since Darth Bane to create a Dyad, not to keep Sith from infighting, which contradicts the last episode of The Clone Wars-which Disney made. Better continuity my ass...We still don't know what a Dyad is, really. Do you need a lightsider and a darksider, or can two Sith form one? Does this mean that no more than two Sith have existed at a time throughout history? At this point, it's like the Sequel Trilogy and the NEU are in different continuities.
6) The Knights allow Ben to get back to his feet because of arrogance. This is explicitly stated in the book. That's why the First Order failed so much throughout the Sequel Trilogy because they were arrogant, lol.
7) Everyone calls in at the end when the People Fleet show up, we get Phantom Squad from Wendig's shit, Ghost, piloted by a 70-year-old Hera Syndulla, Alphabet Two from the those awful Alphabet Squadron books (at least, I think they're awful, I've never read them and never will), Inferno Squad from more awful books and games, and Kaz from the Resistance cartoon. What is up with all these old people from the Original era still being alive and fighting? Also, it still kinda pisses me off that it's all NEU and no old EU stuff, like another FUCK YOU to the reader.
9) 300,000,000 Sith Eternal and Final Order people were killed by the Resistance and friends. We know from old material that these people were raised and indoctrined by the Sith Eternal. The book says they've never left Exegol and are eager to find their place, ruling in the galaxy. The Resistance kills them all. Basically, the Resistance is proud because the killed a planet full of homeschooled kids.
10) Rey muses that nobody would congratulate her if they knew she was a Palpatine, but then she decides nobody cares about bloodlines. So you sweet summer child... That she's better than Leia so no one cares.
11) Hold on, back up to the homeschoolers, where did they come from? 300 million is a huge number, and supposedly they're all children of the Sith Eternal. The Rule of Two is canon in this book because they mention it, so where did all the Sith followers come from? The Sith are supposed to be extinct and NEU content indicates most people never heard of them, are we supposed to belief a bunch of Sith Loyalists were lurking in the shadows the whole time?
12) The Piéce de Résistance: Poe and Finn discuss Palpatine and Poe says Palpatine could return, Finn says he could but it wouldn't be for a long, long time. There we go, Episodes X, XI, and XII will be about fighting Palpatine, again.
The end is a boring cringe fest so uninteresting it's not even worth talking about.
Conclusion:
As I write this, I'm reminded of Kevin J Anderson, mostly the introduction the wrote for Dark Empire's paperback version. He wrote that in order to write the Jedi Academy Trilogy, he binge read everything, from the Thrawn books to Jedi Prince and even played numerous Star Wars RPGs to get a sense of the world he was writing in. When he found out about Dark Empire, he was frustrated, but he called Tom Vietch its writer and they figured out to reconcile the stories and they made it work. Say what you will about KJA, but he did his research, even if he failed, he tried his damnedest.
A few days before this book dropped, Carson tweeted that she cried during TFA, because she waited her whole life to see a female Jedi. Needless to say, Star Wars fans tore her apart, she was only rescued by moving the goal posts from female Jedi to female Jedi that wasn't in a cartoon, didn't die horribly, and had a certain number of lines. This woman doesn't care about Star Wars, neither do her beta SIMP orbiters and the legions of dangerhairs.
For that reason, she is the worst Star Wars novelization writer, in the end, it wasn't the subject or writing style, it was her piss poor attitude. Worst Star Wars novelization ever, actually, I think the book is worse than the movie.
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Dawson is fine. It's one of those things I hoped Filoni would show some restraint.
That didn't happen.
This was his long game: getting Tano to live action. That's why he couldn't give her a proper death...
The issue is that it, possibly, mires down Mandalorian's established characters...
Animated Clone Wars refrences are better than ST plug ins I guess...
Sigh..
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People are bitching about the Casting cause Rosario Dawson is a transphobe I guess. and I guess her views reflect "thier lesbian queen."So I guess Rosario Dawnson has been cast as Ahsoka for Mandalorian Season 2.
Rosario Dawson Reportedly Cast as Ahsoka Tano in The Mandalorian: Season 2 - IGN
Ahsoka Tano will reportedly finally be appearing in live-action as SlashFilm reports that Rosario Dawson has been cast as the fan-favorite character in season 2 of The Mandalorian.