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Your corporation (I have my suspicions as to which it is) can fuck itself for keeping you stuck near the poverty line.

Can you even pay the bills without EBT? System is rigged that way.
Yes, I actually don't Qualify for EBT because I make too much and don't have a pussy between my legs.

Here is the real kicker.

I know people who make less than I do who has worked a Union Job for Decades.
 
What do people do when they're at home and bored? well I dont know, but I start digging through all the old ttrpg books I pirated and do some light reading. After seeing that weird cult being dead on about Bill Gates and his microchip fetish I decided to let my autism fly and see just what type of foreshadowing we might have gotten elsewhere. And with all the focus on whether or not California is going to survive the homeless apocalypse I figure, why not start with a book entirely devoted to that shithole of a state?

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Shadowrun is an infuriating to play but fun to read cyberpunk ttrpg set in an alternate reality where magic ebbs and flows in cycles. In this world the year 2012 saw the end of the current magicless age, the 'fifth world', (The Mayans predicted this shit because they're calendar gurus) and the beginning of the 'sixth world', a place where Dragons are kikes, Orcs are niggers and Elves are just cunts.

The California Free State is just what it sounds like, a free state. It seceded along with several other large chunks of the United States before the game's first edition (Yes, those good old boys down in Dixie finally kicked those Northern fucks right in the balls). It is also basically a battleground during 2nd edition, around 2057. An invading Japanese military force has taken over San Francisco, The Pueblo Corporate Council (more Indians, not really important) occupies most of Southern California and San Diego is occupied by Atzlan, an aggressive nation formed by drug cartels to control Central America and is heavily involved in some real shady shit.

Most of this book is useless. Without a sudden secession movement gaining steam, a miraculous return to the 1980s when Japan might have actually been a contender for world dominance, or a bunch of drug lords deciding to band together and form a fucking megacorp, the geopolitics of the CFS are not going to come about. Because of this we also won't be looking at San Francisco, because without a brutal military dictatorship suddenly seizing the city and purging everyone who's skin is the wrong side of brown we just don't have the foundation for Shadowrun SanFran culture.

But Los Angeles? Oh I can totally see 2050s Los Angeles happening right fucking now. As of this book LA is a free city in a free state, cut loose in 2046 by the government in Sacramento because it just wasn't worth spending any money on. Los Angeles is a heavily stratified city state torn between Hollywood and aerospace moguls, ultra rich walled communities that have taken full advantage of corporate extraterritoriality to ensure that dont have to pay anyone taxes (another reason why LA was abandoned by the CFS) and everyone else, who live on a meagre supply of recycled water provided by entire beaches filled with desalination plants and lots and lots of crime.

The Los Angeles of the mid 2050s is a city of sharp contrasts. Hollywood, Mulholland Drive, Westside, UCLA and 'Fun City' (A tourist town that covers a big chunk of Orange County that was bought up by studio execs and showbiz types after the county went bankrupt) are islands of light and life floating in a sea of urban blight. There is no need for the rich to leave their enclaves for anything; you work there, you sleep there, you eat there and you play there. They are, for all intents and purposes, cities within cities.

The rest of LA is...well it's what you'd imagine a fiction writer would create to contrast as heavily as possible with the aforementioned walled off gardens of eden. Crumbling Streets, burned out tenements, dead cars and unwashed masses pawing through garbage cans and no basic services. The government of LA is corrupt and incompetent, they line their pockets with embezzled funds and fuck off after their terms are up. Drug and chip use is common, corps dump toxic chemicals wherever they please and violent gangs roam the street. It's like if 1990's Compton spread out across the entire town (fun fact, Compton and its surroundings are now their own walled off city called El Infierno. It's a lovely place as it sounds)

Now, all you need to do is replace all of the shit that happened in the US to cause this in the Shadowrun timeline (Native American's using magic supernukes, the South rising again, Elves making their own ethnostates in Oregon etc) and replace it with one single pandemic. Because remember, the California of Shadowrun is California before it went insane.

California, OUR California, is a perfect storm of incompetent government policies, overtaxed infrastructure and a mind boggling homeless population. Mark my words, the state that show-biz built is right on track to end up like it's nightmarish cousin in the 2050s.

On the plus side at least the Dragons havent showed up yet.
 
So 1 of the 2 coworkers that I briefly mentioned earlier in the thread who I thought posed a potential risk of exposing everyone at my job to infection- and who has been admitted to the hospital for the past week - has tested positive for the virus, which I learned just this evening. Yet they have also been released from the hospital, which means they must be in decent enough shape to go home and self isolate I guess? Why would a hospital discharge a possible carrier or full blown infected individual? My only guess is so they can free up some beds for the new infected cases that will be rolling in since its obvious we're already deep in the shit.

Now I'm getting antsy and starting to worry, cuz if some random 20-something latino working in a niche industry in NorCal can catch this thing then that means this fucker is literally *everywhere* and we are already fucked.

Man, what a fuckin' timeline.

If I had to guess, he was released because his symptoms started to improve greatly, and the hospitals wanted to make room for the more serious and high-risk cases. It makes sense, really, especially if the biggest obstacle for the hospitals right now are rooms and beds.

Also, somebody in his mid-20s getting this? Odds of him having a social life are pretty high; doesn't sound like he just goes to work, comes back home, and that's it.

There is a logic and a pattern to this virus in who it spreads to. It's just that the virus is ridiculously contageous when it comes to hard surfaces and human interaction. I highly doubt the guy woke up one day and just "got it." Don't know if that makes you feel any better, but I just wanted to push some perspective with how this virus works, and how it doesn't just work its way at random.

You have a reason to worry for yourself, as you may have potentially been exposed. Take care of yourself, and pay attention to what your body is telling you. And if you can and aren't already doing it, I would go into self-quarantine for the next few weeks.
 
we are not testing the dead. I will repeat that.

the dead aren't getting tested. only the living. if you didn't get a test before you died, it's up to us to call it without a test available. in the US at least, there are not enough tests available to spare a single one on this.

to call it a covid-related death we look at the course of disease (known symptoms) length of that course, and physical signs on autopsy:
firm, sticky, filled lungs
lack of oxygen evident in organs and extremities
enlarged spleen
intestinal lining disturbances
lack of oxygenation to reproductive parts

if it hits a few of those marks we can add it to the count and right now, here, we are. other places are likely not going to do so, many are invested in keeping these numbers down as far as possible.

Intestinal lining disturbances from very hard coughing or something else?
 
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Pray for me Kiwis, a thot rubbed up against me in the supermarket because she was jealous I had a face shield and she hadn't prepped. I would have maced her if I had read this:


We're going to be Italia 2.0

You already were, before the virus even came about. That is where those awesome foldable massive salty pizza slices served on a paper plate, come from. Yum.

Actually in Italy they don't have those, but the NYC adaptation is three steps shy of awesome. And like you said, Italia, v.2.

As for the thot-encounter, if the Chinese reaper decides to visit me, among the few things I would miss about this world, is its opportunities to "embrace diversity."

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"Hillary and the Chinese Government both agree that Trump is a racist!"

Boy, there's a trustworthy bunch of sources. That sure changes my mind.

Who cares if Trump is racist? And no, I am not a Trump voter. But seriously, if you don't agree with Trump, come up with a coherent argument as to why not, or keep quiet lest you lose your credibility.
 
Our pediatrician told me that babies have a passive immunity through the mother.

If the mother is suspected of having Covid-19, wouldn't performing major surgery on her increase her risk of succumbing?
I would trust what your pediatrician is telling you.
My info is only anecdotal and what I can gather is this is being decided on a case by case basis. If the mother presents with a decreased SpO2 plus being febrile, she is monitored closely. Some of the Ob/Gyn's appear to be weighing the risk of vaginal vs caesarian, taking into account overall health and age of mother, and erring on the side of caution.
Fwiw, the cases that are known of Covid deliveries demonstrate good outcomes for both mother and child.
Mazel Tov and good health to you.
 
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National guard vehicles being moved to assist with outbreak in California.

They don't normally move that by train for a deployment. By train it is either going to port for shipment out, coming from port following overseas deployment, going to or coming from one of the big training grounds, or going to or coming from the manufacturer. Those are road wheel vehicles. The troops would be driving them in as part of the deployment.

Apparently all drills and training rotations at Fort Irwin have been cancelled. So many company vehicles are being shipped back from the training grounds back to their home units.
 
They don't normally move that by train for a deployment. By train it is either going to port for shipment out, coming from port following overseas deployment, going to or coming from one of the big training grounds, or going to or coming from the manufacturer. Those are road wheel vehicles. The troops would be driving them in as part of the deployment.

Apparently all drills and training rotations at Fort Irwin have been cancelled. So many company vehicles are being shipped back from the training grounds back to their home units.
That makes sense. I've only ever done railhead detail for training rotations.
 
Pray for me Kiwis, a thot rubbed up against me in the supermarket because she was jealous I had a face shield and she hadn't prepped. I would have maced her if I had read this:

We're going to be Italia 2.0

I don't know what bothers me more? That Corona-Chan is killing New Yorkers at a rate of 1/hour... or that our Kung Flu Waifu still has quite some distance to go to beat Chicago, Detroit and Baltimore's rate of Deaths Per Hour
 
What do people do when they're at home and bored? well I dont know, but I start digging through all the old ttrpg books I pirated and do some light reading. After seeing that weird cult being dead on about Bill Gates and his microchip fetish I decided to let my autism fly and see just what type of foreshadowing we might have gotten elsewhere. And with all the focus on whether or not California is going to survive the homeless apocalypse I figure, why not start with a book entirely devoted to that shithole of a state?

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Shadowrun is an infuriating to play but fun to read cyberpunk ttrpg set in an alternate reality where magic ebbs and flows in cycles. In this world the year 2012 saw the end of the current magicless age, the 'fifth world', (The Mayans predicted this shit because they're calendar gurus) and the beginning of the 'sixth world', a place where Dragons are Trump's Chosen People, Orcs are niggas and Elves are just cunts.

The California Free State is just what it sounds like, a free state. It seceded along with several other large chunks of the United States before the game's first edition (Yes, those good old boys down in Dixie finally kicked those Northern fucks right in the balls). It is also basically a battleground during 2nd edition, around 2057. An invading Japanese military force has taken over San Francisco, The Pueblo Corporate Council (more Indians, not really important) occupies most of Southern California and San Diego is occupied by Atzlan, an aggressive nation formed by drug cartels to control Central America and is heavily involved in some real shady shit.

Most of this book is useless. Without a sudden secession movement gaining steam, a miraculous return to the 1980s when Japan might have actually been a contender for world dominance, or a bunch of drug lords deciding to band together and form a fucking megacorp, the geopolitics of the CFS are not going to come about. Because of this we also won't be looking at San Francisco, because without a brutal military dictatorship suddenly seizing the city and purging everyone who's skin is the wrong side of brown we just don't have the foundation for Shadowrun SanFran culture.

But Los Angeles? Oh I can totally see 2050s Los Angeles happening right fucking now. As of this book LA is a free city in a free state, cut loose in 2046 by the government in Sacramento because it just wasn't worth spending any money on. Los Angeles is a heavily stratified city state torn between Hollywood and aerospace moguls, ultra rich walled communities that have taken full advantage of corporate extraterritoriality to ensure that dont have to pay anyone taxes (another reason why LA was abandoned by the CFS) and everyone else, who live on a meagre supply of recycled water provided by entire beaches filled with desalination plants and lots and lots of crime.

The Los Angeles of the mid 2050s is a city of sharp contrasts. Hollywood, Mulholland Drive, Westside, UCLA and 'Fun City' (A tourist town that covers a big chunk of Orange County that was bought up by studio execs and showbiz types after the county went bankrupt) are islands of light and life floating in a sea of urban blight. There is no need for the rich to leave their enclaves for anything; you work there, you sleep there, you eat there and you play there. They are, for all intents and purposes, cities within cities.

The rest of LA is...well it's what you'd imagine a fiction writer would create to contrast as heavily as possible with the aforementioned walled off gardens of eden. Crumbling Streets, burned out tenements, dead cars and unwashed masses pawing through garbage cans and no basic services. The government of LA is corrupt and incompetent, they line their pockets with embezzled funds and fuck off after their terms are up. Drug and chip use is common, corps dump toxic chemicals wherever they please and violent gangs roam the street. It's like if 1990's Compton spread out across the entire town (fun fact, Compton and its surroundings are now their own walled off city called El Infierno. It's a lovely place as it sounds)

Now, all you need to do is replace all of the shit that happened in the US to cause this in the Shadowrun timeline (Native American's using magic supernukes, the South rising again, Elves making their own ethnostates in Oregon etc) and replace it with one single pandemic. Because remember, the California of Shadowrun is California before it went insane.

California, OUR California, is a perfect storm of incompetent government policies, overtaxed infrastructure and a mind boggling homeless population. Mark my words, the state that show-biz built is right on track to end up like it's nightmarish cousin in the 2050s.

On the plus side at least the Dragons havent showed up yet.

Have you actually ever been to California or more specifically, LA?
 
They don't normally move that by train for a deployment. By train it is either going to port for shipment out, coming from port following overseas deployment, going to or coming from one of the big training grounds, or going to or coming from the manufacturer. Those are road wheel vehicles. The troops would be driving them in as part of the deployment.

Apparently all drills and training rotations at Fort Irwin have been cancelled. So many company vehicles are being shipped back from the training grounds back to their home units.

Sucks when laser tag gets canceled.
 
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"Hillary and the Chinese Government both agree that Trump is a racist!"

Boy, there's a trustworthy bunch of sources. That sure changes my mind.

I'm not here to say that Trump rolled everything out perfectly and has said all of the right things, but ...

Jesus Christ. All of this is CHINA'S FAULT to begin with. The Chinese Government lied, and a catastrophic amount of people have already died. If people are going to be mad at Trump for not doing enough, then they should be absolutely livid at the Chinese Communist government.

And in regards to that meme being passed around the echo chamber that is Twitter, constantly quoting Trump about downplaying the virus in early 2020: The media did it even more. In fact, when Trump took action (the travel ban) while he was still talking about how the virus was nothing to worry about, the media crucified him. Then they called everyone a racist for being concerned about the virus and went about their merry way to make everyone pay attention to the Impeachment instead. The news media completely ignored this until earlier this month! At least Trump took some form of action when the genie was out of the bottle in China back in late January.

For all of Trump's faults, I'm still glad this bitch isn't POTUS. She would have never done the China travel ban. Imagine how bad things would be in the United States without that travel ban. Things are bad as they are now; think about if the travel ban had not happened. Plus, we'd be under Martial Law already under Hillary. She keeps screeching at Trump to bring the military into full force with this. And at least Trump is defending us as a nation while the Chinese government is trying to place the blame on us. You think Hillary would be sticking up for us like that? If you do actually think she would, then you're dead wrong.

And, you know, it's really "comforting" to know that the Chinese news media is propping up every word that Hillary has tweeted, and has decided to use her to further the propaganda that the Chinese government isn't responsible. Thanks, you pantsuited cuntbag!
 
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And in regards to that meme being passed around the echo chamber that is Twitter, constantly quoting Trump about downplaying the virus in early 2020: The media did it even more. In fact, when Trump took action (the travel ban) while he was still talking about how the virus was nothing to worry about, the media crucified him. Then they called everyone a racist for being concerned about the virus and went about their merry way to make everyone pay attention to the Impeachment instead. The news media completely ignored this until earlier this month! At least Trump took some form of action when the genie was out of the bottle in China back in late January.
Hey remind me what were the Media talking about in January and Febuary?

WHAT POSSIBLE EVENT could have been taking up the cable news cycle almost exclusively that happened in the first two months of this year?
 
I'm not here to say that Trump rolled everything out perfectly and has said all of the right things, but ...

Jesus Christ. All of this is CHINA'S FAULT to begin with. The Chinese Government lied, and a catastrophic amount of people have already died. If people are going to be mad at Trump for not doing enough, then they should be absolutely livid at the Chinese Communist government.

And in regards to that meme being passed around the echo chamber that is Twitter, constantly quoting Trump about downplaying the virus in early 2020: The media did it even more. In fact, when Trump took action (the travel ban) while he was still talking about how the virus was nothing to worry about, the media crucified him. Then they called everyone a racist for being concerned about the virus and went about their merry way to make everyone pay attention to the Impeachment instead. The news media completely ignored this until earlier this month! At least Trump took some form of action when the genie was out of the bottle in China back in late January.

For all of Trump's faults, I'm still glad this bitch isn't POTUS. She would have never done the China travel ban. Imagine how bad things would be in the United States without that travel ban. Things are bad as they are now; think about if the travel ban had not happened. Plus, we'd be under Martial Law already under Hillary. She keeps screeching at Trump to bring the military into full force with this.

And, you know, it's really "comforting" to know that the Chinese news media is propping up every word that Hillary has tweeted, and has decided to use her to further the propaganda that the Chinese government isn't responsible. Thanks, you pantsuited cuntbag!
What's funny though is that this does seem to be waking some people up to the Chinkroach menace.


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What's funny though is that this does seem to be waking some people up to the Chinkroach menace.


Just ... Fucking cancel China.

CANCEL IT. I wish Corona-Chan had been more merciful to the rest of the world. China deserves what it's getting; I don't even fucking care how "bad" I sound anymore.

What a barbaric, backwards, filthy culture.
 
What's funny though is that this does seem to be waking some people up to the Chinkroach menace.


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WTF Are they cooking the damn thing alive? Is this a gag or is this a legit thing.

IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE kill it before you cook it at least you stupid slant eyed yokels.
 
Haven't heard any real news out of China in weeks now. Seems China more or less managed to achieve full "SHUT IT DOWN" mode. However some anons on a certain basket weaving forum noticed a lot of unique mobile phone numbers in China went missing in the past 2 months. They theorize this massive sudden gap in users reveals the true casualty numbers. If (and I must point out this is a planetary sized "If") true, the real number of casualties, let alone infections it would imply, is staggering.
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Archives of the links in the screencap:

Some other lady with similar graphs:

There are of course reasons to doubt those numbers. For one there could be many bot numbers that scammers and other shady types use which got deactivated. That sort of thing obviously goes on with telecom companies every day in every country, but until the CCP gave the "SHUT IT DOWN" order the telecom companies didn't bother to deal with it so vigorously, let alone all at once as it looks like they may have done. Another explanation is that China only managed to achieve their information blackout by just blanket deactivating these phone numbers, which is something even they wouldn't do on a scale this grand unless there was an emergency to match. They probably thought their traditional censorship means would do the trick, then when it became obvious that wouldn't work they just pulled the plug on entire regions/cities.

Still there are disconcerting signs that this theory may have at least some validity to it. I found a video in the first tweet's replies from the beginning of February that somehow hasn't been archived, posted here, or shoah'd by the CCP and their lapdogs at Twitter.

(WARNING: some loud and gay sounding music plays, no actual audio)

The translation in the tweet claims there were massive piles of phones outside that Chinese Charnel House hastily built hospital in Wuhan that belonged to the dead/cremated. I dunno what the text in the video itself says. Of course it's entirely plausible that the people who owned those phones aren't dead, but they just got forcibly confiscated before being allowed entry. But you know I also got to thinking...Holocaust museums or museums with Holocaust displays always seem to have that one exhibit of shoes from camp prisoners that didn't make it out.
I look at that pile of phones and can't help but wonder the same thoughts -- assuming that video is legit, and those phone owners really are dead.

Overall my thoughts are this: Take everything you hear with a grain of salt, even things you read here. I know salt and a lot of other things are hard to find in the stores these days, but all the same.
 
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