Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Underestimated Nutria]

And that's where the flaw of statistics lie, especially with something as virulent as this shit.

3% of the population doesn't magically mean for every 100 people in a given area there will be 3 in a specific building, it means out of the population, 3% exist. There's a huge distinction between both.

For example in this instance, those 12 people could be in the same nursing home, visited the same infect areas, or this could just all be a coincidence. I guess the friend lying would also be a possibility but I don't really know why someone would attentionwhore in such a minor way over this.

That distinction is usually where the assumptions by scientists are made, and where assloads of people argue over.

No, I am definitely right.

 

[Goronnn]

No, I am definitely right.

If you live in an area that had a lot of infected, it really isn't crazy to know 12 people that died. They've lost 1000's now.

 

[the fall of man]

How does everyone here feel about the anti-biotoics and vaccines being rolled out next month? I know people havent given a fuck about China since the beginning of the month, but how come we haven't heard how they stopped the flu ( if they did) and if the antibiotics worked well.

Also even in the best scenario, the NATO countries are looking at 40k dead once alls said and done with this flu, and thats if they start churning out this vaccine and it works and the anti-biotics work. Also anyone else surprised the japs arent canceling the Olympics yet? 35% of the US is under quarantine. "Stay indoors" style orders while we presumably starve to death. Yet as far as the Japs are concerned this whole thing will be cured by the end of June. Even if thats true thats sort of insane to publicly put out. Also you just dont hear much about the japs in general. They probably are fucking with their numbers worse than the Chinese. Theyre already having population problems. Killing off the 80+ is really going to fuck things up.

My Japanese friends are having a similar experience to we Americans: a 24-hour Coronavirus news cycle and closed schools. Their government doesn’t want to address the problem directly. The Olympic preparations have taken years to complete (I was in Tokyo a couple years ago and it was under construction then), and so there is reluctance to close.

Japanese news source: (archive)

Title translation: “There are opinions that the road to opening the Olympics will be difficult”

NEWS WEB EASY|オリンピックを予定どおり開くことは難しいという意見がある

ＩＯＣは１７日に開いた会議で、東京オリンピックを予定どおり７月２４日に始めるために準備を続けると決めました。 しかし、アイスホッケーのカナダ...

www3.nhk.or.jp

Japan also has a high percentage of older citizens. Their deaths would be unfortunate, but would cause a demographic shift towards normalcy. Of course, the usual problems in Japanese society would still exist (anxiety, overwork, mistrust of opposite sex, mistrust of government), but perhaps a redistribution of political power and wealth would invigorate the culture. Not that I’m advocating for that result; lives are precious and our time on Earth short.

 

[Slappy McGherkin]

Some good out of the bad. Somewhere, a hundred pages ago in this humongous thread, I posted about having to close our restaurant. Well, food only lasts so long and we had a fairly good inventory. We called a couple retirement homes about donating whatever we could. Milk, cheese, bread, eggs -- all current and unopened product.

Their protocols would not let them accept it. Wow. We also contacted St. Vincent de Paul and the Phoenix Rescue Mission. They didn't want it. Unbelievable.

We were literally looking at trashing hundreds of pounds of perfectly good food in the midst of store shelves being empty. WTF level of crazy is that???

We finally found a church outreach that runs four group homes and they were absolutely ecstatic to get the food and said it was a huge help right now, as their needs are only growing.

We're just happy we were able to make a difference and not have it rot or trash it.

 

[The best and greatest]

Japan also has a high percentage of older citizens. Their deaths would be unfortunate, but would cause a demographic shift towards normalcy. Of course, the usual problems in Japanese society would still exist (anxiety, overwork, mistrust of opposite sex, mistrust of government), but perhaps a redistribution of political power and wealth would invigorate the culture. Not that I’m advocating for that result; lives are precious and our time on Earth short.

You know how when you trim a plant down it comes back more vigorous? Creative destruction in action!

 

[SparklyFetuses]

In Chile, a curfew will be applied from 10 PM to 5 AM. Article is in spanish.

Toque de queda en Chile por coronavirus: qué se podrá y no se podrá hacer

La medida regirá a contar de este domingo a las 22:00 horas y se extenderá hasta las 05:00 horas del día siguiente.

www.24horas.cl

Archive: http://archive.li/kedla

 

[Not Really Here]

Some good out of the bad. Somewhere, a hundred pages ago in this humongous thread, I posted about having to close our restaurant. Well, food only lasts so long and we had a fairly good inventory. We called a couple retirement homes about donating whatever we could. tard cum, cheese, bread, eggs -- all current and unopened product.

Their protocols would not let them accept it. Wow. We also contacted St. Vincent de Paul and the Phoenix Rescue Mission. They didn't want it. Unbelievable.

We were literally looking at trashing hundreds of pounds of perfectly good food in the midst of store shelves being empty. WTF level of crazy is that???

We finally found a church outreach that runs four group homes and they were absolutely ecstatic to get the food and said it was a huge help right now, as their needs are only growing.

We're just happy we were able to make a difference and not have it rot or trash it.

Legal liability.

Many states don't give protection to charitable orgs. so people can sue over claimed food poisoning from fresh foods given away.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

Honestly, watching this virus (and the societal madness associated with it) consume Europe and North America, from an American expat's vantage point on the Russian shores of the Baltic Sea is almost dreamlike, and it isn't a good dream. It's like being at the edge of the world. The sickness is crawling across Russia's great expanse at an aching pace, and we're finally starting to see things get on edge here. I can't attend Mass due to concerns over the virus, and a poor nun in our parish got quite ill recently. There's a Peter Gabriel song that really captures that sense of impending... something. It's been looping over and over in my head as the days go on and the situation grows in severity. Might be worth sharing it here.

 

[NIA-DOA 2.0]

I hope she means she's going upstate or something and not NYC, which I assume will be just as bad if not worse than some parts of Cali.

I've been urging my friends in NYC to consider leaving if at all possible for months. At this point I'm less scared of them getting sick (they're pretty well locked down atleast) than what might happen to them when shit hits the fan there, I think it's going to get ugly, not just with illness, but the possibility of looting/riots/violence.

I can't imagine a Wuhan style lockdown working in New York long term. Even in the hardest hit parts of Italy they're having a hard time keeping people inside, I just can't imagine New Yorkers complying any better.

I think she meant NYC. My friend said she isn't the brightest bulb in the set.

Apparently, she put her ordeal on public media for all to see in Instagram stories:

Spoiler: Millennial being TMI with her life:

https://www.instagram.com/annie_wu_22/

Why people need to share their entire lives on the web is beyond me...

 

[Jump]

Legal liability.

Many states don't give protection to charitable orgs. so people can sue over claimed food poisoning from fresh foods given away.

My St V's couldn't take a whole walk-in worth of meat. They just have a few residential chest freezers and refrigerators.
It is good he finally found someone who could take it before it went bad.

 

[simulated goat]

Rob Halford chimes in.

Spoiler: An Important Message From the Metal God

oMG, mandela moment, srsly I thought the dude was dead, I totally love Halford now.

 

[Shield Breaker]

I don't see Arkin's article as particularly alarmist- it simply raises something most Americans don't think about.

I think y'all folx should be more worried about President Mike Pompeo. Or, following his mysterious death from food poisoning, President Steven 'G.S.' Mnuchin. On the other hand, you might get President Sonny Purdue (like the cut of that man's jib) or, another scholar-President akin to Jefferson, President Ben Carson.

If Allah decides to punch the Ayatollah's ticket, what happens? How do you guys go about getting a new Head Diddler?

I'mma start agreeing with the ones that say murica needs to add happy pills to its water supply, 'cause y'all need to chill, just, ALL of you. Last time spain was this polarized the africa corps brought out the artillery and got Franco in charge, jebus christ

How do you feel about Italians? How about the French? Or Germans? We have what amounts to fifty countries tied together. Of course not everyone gets along.

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Get rekt, Iran!

B-but mah Joos!

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

The law of unintended consequences leaps to mind.

The government has advised that public social gathering spots shut, so if people want a change of scenery or to get some exercise they should do so outside.

The end result is people have gone outside.... in their droves.

And places like Skegness are packed.

On top of that, the weather is fantastic today for Mother's Day here in the UK...

So The National Trust, who were keeping their parklands and gardens open to give people space to go outside are now likely to close as well due to people rushing to these places in higher numbers to enjoy a walk.

I did travel near a Trust Property the other day, and there were lots out and about but were generally keeping distance unless in family groups. There were certainly more than I'd usually see in that area at this time of year, so it's obviously had the effect where people wanted a walk out in the half decent weather and resulted in simply creating a new semi-social space.

 

[Evil Bunny]

How did America convince so many other nations to emulate our racist ideals? Did we sell racism like McDonald's and CocaCola?

Sure you didn't know about McRacism? or RC COLA Racism Coca Cola? Racism Jr's? Kentucky Fried Racism?

Everything is racist.

 

[MrBlueSocks]

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A very large portion of the deaths caused by the Kung Flu are due to secondary bacterial infections exploiting the weakness created by the primary virus. While their body is trying to fight off the novel virus, loads of secondary and tertiary bacteria are flooding through the gates and overwhelming their immune systems, hence the need for a dual treatment of antibiotics with azithromycin and hydroxychloroquine.

Try to think about things before you open your mouth. It's a good way to eat your own foot.

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God I hate journalists so much. They're Dunning-Kruger personified. "I know everything, fuck off peasant!"
I mean, I'm not American, why should I care so much about US politics. But seeing this direct bare faced arrogance and spite at any time is hard, but in a time of national and international crisis it's far worse.
A free press is important, but surely they can see it's in their long term best interest to give reasoned, intelligent crticism? Instead of this IRL shitposting. It's so rare that a Journo actually does their job , that we remember it for years: Greenwald, Watergate

 

[Linako 2.0]

I know that I'm pretty late on this but I'm getting real sick and tired of people thinking this coronavirus is the fucking apocalypse. Everybody's either taking all the Toilet Paper and food like bears in the wake of hibernate or germaphobes acting like every single person outside has the virus and your the sole survivor.
All you have to do is buy a week supplie of the stufff you need and stay your ass home until this made-in-china virus blows over.

The problem isn't the virus itself, but it's effect on the economy and how it will affect common masses.

 

[Evil Bunny]

Is there any way to find out why some people are asymptomatic or mild? Are they looking for commonalities or is that useless or just no time for that?

The way it seems to work (like many other communicable diseases) is you 'get it' then it incubates for however long (for this it seems to be mostly 2 wks with reports of up to 5) during a majority of this time you 'shed viral load' (meaning you spread the virus and give it to others, or contaminate surfaces which others touch then touch their faces/etc and are infected) during this period you don't even know you have it as you're asymptomatic (meaning you're not coughing or have a fever or whatever), THEN after incubation completes (and you may have passed it on to others (this is what R0 means, how many people an infected person typically infects)) you get sick.

As for 'mild' you may want to look at what governments are classing as mild, most of them say it's just a case without serious pneumonia, the impact of virus even in mild cases is pretty severe.

And they are sequencing it and doing studies, this is a 'new' thing and will take time to figure all the other stuff out (why do some get mild, why is it more prevalent in males than females, why disproportionately impacting older people, etc.

 

[Slap47]

If you can't go to confession, take your sorrow directly to God, pope says

People who cannot get to confession because of the coronavirus lockdown or another serious reason can go to God directly, be specific about their sins, request pardon and experience God's loving forgiveness, Pope Francis said.

cruxnow.com

The Corona has given the Protestants the final victory.

Nice.

 

[Stoneheart]

The Corona has given the Protestants the final victory.

Not realy since Francis is just a pretender.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

URGENT NEWS I'mma post an official PDF from Andalucia's Junta, just recieved it. It's supposed to be only for healthcare workers but... EDIT: Just realzed it's a press release. They told us it was an internal com, it's not, lol, so I guess I don't gotta worry about that shit, whixh I wouldn't anyway. This is what happens when you don't read the margins! Well I already told you we leak everything. Fuck, I'm not even a healthcare worker myself I'm just some lowly unioner's pet mongrel, so fuck it.

Biggest news: official numbers say we got 47 dead since the start of the pandemic. And yes they are counting the malaga outbreak. Part of it was sent to granada so that's most of the 21 dead of malaga and 13 of granada. Do remember those are the dead chinks and krauts. Fuck due to high turism most others are likely foreigners too, sadly no ethnicity or nationality given. Also on the good news side mobile testing areas finally up and running. So shit's getting good.

For the rest, one of the other spanish speaking kiwis will have to translate I ain't got time.