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There should be a stimulus bill that ensures people aren't going to starve while
Lets see

The bill includes cash payments of as much as $1,200 per person and $2,400 per married couple. Individuals with an adjusted gross income of less than $75,000, and $150,000 for joint filers, would receive the full payment. People earning over that amount would see their payments reduced by $5 for each $100 in income over that amount. The benefit completely phases out for individuals earning over $99,000 and married couples making more than $198,000.


People with incomes under $2,500 would be eligible for $600, or $1,200 for a married couple.

Basic services must remain on, and everyone effected needs support
Define Basic services? Like say Grocery Stores? who have largely profited off this shit because they are doing more in sales over the past month than during black fucking friday?

Or Public Transportation that is already subsidized?

You say it is "fucking terrible" but you haven't pointed out a single way it is terrible because it was Republicans who put it forward. What the Democrats want IS Commie bullshit because what they want is to have something in place that can never be repealed after the emergency is over. Increase to SNAP? Yeah that will be brought back down in a year after all this bullshit is ended, DC will TOTALLY CUT THE SPENDING on something after they increased it despite everyone having an autistic fit anytime Republicans suggest we cut the increase in spending much less actually cut fucking spending.

If you think anything that the Democrats want to push through will expire once the emergency does, you are a dumb ass who hasn't fucking paid any attention to any government program in the past century because IT NEVER GOES DOWN.
 
Science has 3 rules:
-make sure your tests are done properly
-check out all viable alternatives
-tell what the evidence tells you
I think you mean:
-get the grant money
-spend all the grant money
-tweak the results and sex up the conclusions so you'll get more grant money
 
Drunk Californian Marxist flew back to DC just to fuck up the Wu Flu stimulus package. It's trending worldwide.


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The left, of course, is trying to spin it, via the Hashtag #AJustStimulus, claiming that the bill didn't have enough Socialism in it:


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Lets see




Define Basic services? Like say Grocery Stores? who have largely profited off this shit because they are doing more in sales over the past month than during black fucking friday?

Or Public Transportation that is already subsidized?

You say it is "fucking terrible" but you haven't pointed out a single way it is terrible because it was Republicans who put it forward. What the Democrats want IS Commie bullshit because what they want is to have something in place that can never be repealed after the emergency is over. Increase to SNAP? Yeah that will be brought back down in a year after all this bullshit is ended, DC will TOTALLY CUT THE SPENDING on something after they increased it despite everyone having an autistic fit anytime Republicans suggest we cut the increase in spending much less actually cut fucking spending.

If you think anything that the Democrats want to push through will expire once the emergency does, you are a dumb ass who hasn't fucking paid any attention to any government program in the past century because IT NEVER GOES DOWN.
This was discussed earlier in the thread, idiot.
wow, the giving Americans money bill is AWFULView attachment 1196411
It fucks over people at the very bottom, those who are most effected. It's a half assed attempt by Senate Republicans to get the market back up. This is a national emergency and we need to treat it that way. I don't care who does it, democrat, Republican, new whig, whatever.

Basic services like water, food and information need to be ensured. No evictions, no turn offs. We are the richest nation on the planet, this is not a question of being able to pay for it.

"Democrats pushing commie bullshit that never goes away,"

Like the Patriot act that Trump extended, like the bi-partisan Earn It Act that fucks the internet in its ass. You can suckRepublican cock all you want, but pretending they give a fuck about you compared to the FUCKING COMMIES ain't gonna feed your ass when this fucks your job too.
 
Drunk Californian Marxist flew back to DC just to fuck up the Wu Flu stimulus package. It's trending worldwide.


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The left, of course, is trying to spin it, via the Hashtag #AJustStimulus, claiming that the bill didn't have enough Socialism in it:


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Oh look the same old democrat talking points. "BAILOUT FOR THE RICH!" you know despite giving 1,200 dollars to every single American and the fact that the "bail outs" are LOANS that will have to be paid back later. Hey do you know what will protect worker's rights? Not letting the entire service industry go under because they had to shutter due to government orders.
 
Oh look the same old democrat talking points. "BAILOUT FOR THE RICH!" you know despite giving 1,200 dollars to every single American and the fact that the "bail outs" are LOANS that will have to be paid back later. Hey do you know what will protect worker's rights? Not letting the entire service industry go under because they had to shutter due to government orders.
It doesn't give 1,200 to every American.
 
Oh look the same old democrat talking points. "BAILOUT FOR THE RICH!" you know despite giving 1,200 dollars to every single American and the fact that the "bail outs" are LOANS that will have to be paid back later. Hey do you know what will protect worker's rights? Not letting the entire service industry go under because they had to shutter due to government orders.

That's the thing. Everyone keeps shouting that we need to do something for "the bottom 1%!" "The poor!" etc etc.

We're not a socialist nation. You know how we help the poor? By making sure their jobs don't vanish because some chink decided to suck on a bat's asshole.
 
it's probably already been mentioned but i don't feel like reading through 50 pages just to check if anyone mentioned it but the teenagers who went off to party in miami ended up getting sick with the virus. darwinism still holding strong
 
It was a shitty fucking bill, and they need to do better.
Trump tried to send you a check this month for $1200. So you can buy the shit you need NOW like food and rent.
Don't worry though. Polsi and friends stopped him.

Most people hurting now don't care about how shitty the bill. They just saw that hope for $1200 vanish.
 
That's the thing. Everyone keeps shouting that we need to do something for "the bottom 1%!" "The poor!" etc etc.

We're not a socialist nation. You know how we help the poor? By making sure their jobs don't vanish because some chink decided to suck on a bat's asshole.
Their jobs are fucking gone already. Odds are the whole country will be under lockdown. Why is this so hard to understand? How can they go to fucking work while under lockdown?
 
Ahhhhh.
You have no idea what the word 'hope' means or what the phrase 'false hope' means.
Got it.
Play devil's advocate for a second .... point to a fallacy in reasoning:

As opposed to peddling false hope, could you say that he is "administering genuine hope?"

I think @It's HK-47 said something about "substantiated vs. unsubstantiated hope. But "hope's not something you can substantiate. It is along the lines of faith and love.

Instead how about "substantiated optimism regarding ..."?
 
Their jobs are fucking gone already. Odds are the whole country will be under lockdown. Why is this so hard to understand? How can they go to fucking work while under lockdown?
And every day we're in quarantine means more and more of those jobs aren't coming back, and there's no guarantee that your employer will even hire you back. Hell, this could be used as an opportunity to drop those wages because more people will be desperate for a job.
 

Countries are pulling out of the Olympics. Tokyo is rip.
 
/So are governesses (Kim Reynolds) should be voted out office today she announced that her primary concern was getting charities to pay for daycare no mention of testing and nothing about how to stop the spread just fucking Business as usual
https://web.archive.org/web/2020032...additional-guidelines-for-child-care/31880401
Reynolds closes more businesses, provides additional guidelines for child care
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Updated: 3:25 PM CDT Mar 22, 2020
JOHNSTON, Iowa —
Gov. Kim Reynolds announced new ways the state is assisting businesses and childcare services in combating COVID-19.
Closing more businesses:


Reynolds announced she signed a proclamation Sunday morning to close salons, tattoo establishments, barbershops, massage therapy businesses, tanning salons, medical spas and swimming pools effective 10 p.m. Sunday.
Child care:
The Iowa Department of Human Services offered new guidelines for child care providers to follow. As the department continues to work with the governor's office, it is currently finding more spaces to house child care services.
The following guidelines were issued:
  • Parents and guardians must drop off children a the door where the children's temperatures will be taken by a staff member. If a staff member of child has a temperature of 100.4 degrees they must go home.
  • Child care services must practice distancing during this time as much as possible.
  • DHS suggest removing plush toys from child care services and prohibit toys being brought in from home.
  • DHS suggest all blankets the child uses throughout the day be brought home and washed every day.
  • Child care services must send DHS updates every day about its availability. DHS has established an online map that shows parents and guardians what child care facilities have openings.
Forclosures:
Reynolds' proclamation also included suspending forclosures for residential, commercial and agricultural properties.
Licensing:
The proclamation also provides relief for medical professionals wanting to step up but concerned about their medical licenses expiring during this time. Medical licenses will not expire during the foreseeable future.
Current cases:
On Sunday morning, the Iowa Department of Public Health announced there were 22 additional cases confirmed in the state. This brings the total to 90 cases in Iowa.
Presumptive positive cases have been found in Adair, Black Hawk, Allamakee, Pottawattamie, Fayette, Henry, Linn, Story, Carroll, Harrison, Winneshiek, Washington, Dallas, Muscatine, Dubuque, Cerro Gordo, Kossuth, Scott, Sioux, Tama, Woodbury, Polk and Johnson counties. Reynolds announced that the coronavirus is now community spread.

Sounds good however the self isolation is not being enforced and there’s still plenty of places still open now compare what she said earlier this week
https://www.timesrepublican.com/new...s-widespread-coronavirus-testing-isnt-needed/
Gov. Reynolds: Widespread coronavirus testing isn’t needed

COVID-19
MAR 22, 2020

PERRY BEEMAN
IOWA CAPITAL DISPATCH





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Pool photo courtesy of Des Moines Register Gov. Kim Reynolds says widespread coronavirus testing is unnecessary.

Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds and her state epidemiologist on Thursday said a public furor over the number of COVID-19 tests performed in the state, and around the country, is misplaced.

The topic has been burning up cable shows and Twitter and Facebook feeds across the nation.


Statehouse reporters grilled the officials at a news conference Thursday afternoon. They wanted to know why more tests aren’t being conducted.

Regardless of whether you are tested, if you don’t feel well, you need to stay home, Dr. Caitlin Pedati, the state medical director and epidemiologist, and Reynolds said.

Everyone needs to keep their distance from other people during the coronavirus outbreak, Pedati said. That, in the end, is the one thing that could slow the spread of the virus, which causes everything from mild flu-like symptoms to death.

“We continue to hear questions and concerns, and understandably so, about whether or not people need to be tested for this virus,” Pedati said.

“I think that it’s important to keep in mind that not everybody does need to be tested. In fact, many of us will probably never need to be tested. That’s because most of us, about 80 percent, would only experience a very mild kind of illness, similar to a cold or the flu,” Pedati added.

And for all but the most serious of cases, the advice would be the same — stay home and rest.

Currently, there is no vaccine available.

Pedati said the state has 800 test kits on hand. Reynolds said the White House is working on getting more.

But both Pedati and Reynolds said the focus should not be on massive testing at this point. With community spread established, their message would be the same even with far more test kits available: If you don’t feel good, you should stay home. If you think you have COVID-19, you should call your doctor’s office for advice on what to do next. Drink fluids. Rest. Cover your coughs.

If you have recently visited a country that has a Level 3 warning for COVID-19, you should stay home for two weeks and avoid contact with others, Pedati said.

With the relatively limited testing that has been done, 44 cases have been confirmed across 13 counties in Iowa. Another 622 tests were negative. The state hygienic laboratory has added a third shift to help speed test results, state officials said.

Iowa Sen. Joe Bolkcom, D-Iowa City, said national reports note that 80 percent of those carrying the virus don’t know it, so Iowa could have hundreds of thousands of cases. “I think all the advice about staying home, washing hands, etc, is essential,” Bolkcom wrote in an email to reporters. “But it’s not enough … We don’t want to scare people but without needed widespread testing, people should assume (which won’t happen for a while) they might very well be infected right now. We all think we are in danger of getting infected when a bunch of us already are.”

Reynolds, a Republican, this week declared an emergency. Schools, bars, churches, casinos, theaters and other facilities are closed temporarily, and some events in late May have been canceled.

In a related matter, Reynolds said she is still working with state economic development officials and others to come up with assistance for businesses disrupted by the virus outbreak.



So there’s nothing they can do stay home try not to get sick also there barely enforcing the stay at home self isolation order people here are wandering around like it’s a holiday
luckily the weather is cold wet and snowy so more people should stay home
 
New Zealand has moved to level 3 on the COVID19 alert scale. We have 102 cases. All schools will be closed for four weeks. We will move to level 4 in 48 hours which is full lockdown. Fucking terrifying. This is a middleman for people and the country to "get everything in order". before full lockdown. I'm so glad my bf works in foodstuffs so he can do our groceries lol.

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