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EmuWarsVeteran said:
All I can tell you is I've seen 2 outbreaks, live with someone that tested positive, and while I haven't been tested have many symptoms, and that sounds like nothing I've seen and also nothing I've heard from the medical profesionals dealing with this virus here in spain. I'm not gonna say it won't happen in an EXTREME MINORITY of cases, but it sure as shit ain't even close to common, not in spain anyway, and knowing our luck I doubt we've gotten a mild strand compared with the rest.
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It would be hard to detect. What it could be doing is infecting the cardiorespiratory center of the medulla and causing dysautonomia of the lungs and possibly even the heart.

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To a doctor not specifically looking for nervous system infiltration, it would look like ordinary breathing difficulties related to pneumonia. It could go almost completely undetected unless you had coroners literally digging into deceased victims’ brains and nerves during autopsies. 🧠
 
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Karl_der_Grosse said:
I'm actually hoping a rent/mortgage suspension goes through. I have a bit of rental property, a few dozen units spread over two states. Rent comes due in a little more than a week and I'm fully expecting at least a few of my tenants to fail to pay. Not to mention my employees. What do I do about them? Most of them have been with me years, some for decades, and I care about them deeply. Do I keep them working? Do I send them home? If I send them home and keep paying them, will the government eventually help cover my losses?

Here's what I'm doing. My tenants have all already been informed that the rental offices are closed for the foreseeable future and managers are only available by appointment. Maintenance is only available for emergencies on a to be determined basis. I keep my properties in tip-top condition so maintenance is minimal anyway. I will continue to pay my staff regardless of whether they stay home or work, and they've been told this. I have a carefully chosen, mostly long-term staff, so there's not going to be much malingering. If there is, there is.

As for rent, well, I will not evict anyone for failure to pay rent. Period. I will take the financial hit regardless of whether I get financial relief from the feds or the state. I haven't informed them of this, of course. Not yet. Luckily most of my properties are high-income housing, so I think for at least a month or two it shouldn't be a problem. Several of my properties have live-in police officers (I give them a break on rent) so things should be calm.

I have more than enough financial resources to handle mortgages for the foreseeable future. Most landlords don't. Most rely on rental income every month to pay their mortgages. No rent, no mortgage payments. No mortgage payments, bank takes the hit. Multiply that by a few hundred thousand landlords and the banks are in real fucking trouble. If the banks are in real fucking trouble, every business that relies on bank financing is in real fucking trouble. And that's everyone. Everyone.
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Yep I do something like that as a side hustle. and yes the banks are gonna get fucked soo god damn hard. I would think it would be time for banks to do massive write offs etc. Give the american people a fucking check not a tax rebate and call it good.
 
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Drain Todger said:
It would be hard to detect. What it could be doing is infecting the cardiorespiratory center of the medulla and causing dysautonomia of the lungs and possibly even the heart.

en.wikipedia.org

Dysautonomia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

To a doctor not specifically looking for nervous system infiltration, it would look like ordinary breathing difficulties related to pneumonia. It could go almost completely undetected unless you had coroners literally digging into deceased victims’ brains and nerves during autopsies. 🧠
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I just passed the info along just in case. If I recieve response or clarification I'll post it.
 
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I didn't even begin to address commercial real estate, which dwarfs apartment rental real estate both in terms of sheer money and in terms of numbers. What are the banks going to do when businesses start missing their mortgage payments? Repo the business? The banks don't want the fucking businesses' property, they want the money, but as things stand at this moment they're not going to have much fucking choice. At east that would give them a theoretical asset on a balance sheet to point to instead of a definite and ongoing loss.
 
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Cat Menagerie said:
Well Hobby Lobby corporate HQ refuses to close, because Jesus or money or whatever.

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All 4,000 at Hobby Lobby headquarters in OKC required to work in offices

Sources inside the 4,000-employee Hobby Lobby headquarters in OKC say that no employees were allowed to work remotely last week though many could have.
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the funny part is that because of the mask shortage, several women i know have been sewing new masks for nursing homes and other care facilities, meaning that this is a strange "out" for the owners of hobby lobby as far as benefiting the community. weirdos sometimes have upsides, especially in strange times.
 
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Know what?

Fuck it.

Saw today at the hospital NHS staff making zero attempt at socially distancing, all chatting together and bunched up as if business was normal. Contractor came in and said "come on folks 2 metres apart" and the response was laughter. I have to visit this place twice a month and now I'm going to be trying some self medicating shit to see if I can avoid the fuck out of it and only go in in full PPE when I can.

One even coughed without covering their mouth.

So, decide to warn folks on a local Facebook Page that they're not making an effort and wind up with a bunch of abuse hoping I don't "need any of them" in the near future.

I'll pretend to act all shocked if there's a large scale outbreak due to the fucking stupidity of some staff in the near future.

Dropped off some things at my local pharmacy, and there were markers outside the pharmacy 2 metres apart so people knew where to stand and they restricted people to 2 inside the shop and pharmacy staff even conducted isolating proceedures to hand over prescriptions.

Local shops are increasingly doing the same, limiting customers into the shops and placing markers down outside where people should stand.

But apparently, fuck the local hospital.
 
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Kornheiser said:
When do you guys think the lockdowns will slowly be lifted? I think in a week or two but some areas want to see people suffer and they won’t do anything.
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Here in Michigan we were just told by our governor that we are on lockdown at least three more weeks. That puts us at about April 13. Michigan is in the top 10 infected US states so I don't know how much that as to do with it, but maybe as this rolls on the states with less infections will have lesser quarantines and the worse off states will have stricter quarantines.

Just in my small circle I have already seen numerous people laid off. Not put on temporary unpaid leave but basically just told they no longer have a job. And they can't even go out and look for a new job because of the quarantine! Congress better get it's shit together and pass something to help people soon because this is fucked. I read that in Michigan we usually get around 300 people a week applying for unemployment but right now we are averaging 70,000 a week applying.
 
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to remind all, at this stage don’t dwell too much on increasing numbers of positive tests. The number of infected. At this point testing is just starting to catch up with the actual numbers. That number really tells us nothing. It doesn’t mean more people are being infected, it just means more testing is being done. It looks scary, but really isn’t. We know testing to this point has at best been catching 5-10% of those with it.

the real numbers to watch. Cases requiring hospitalization, Deaths, and the ration of those tested to positive tests. Ie how many tests come back negative? That will better tell the tale.
 
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Ponderous Pillock said:
Know what?

Fuck it.

Saw today at the hospital NHS staff making zero attempt at socially distancing, all chatting together and bunched up as if business was normal. Contractor came in and said "come on folks 2 metres apart" and the response was laughter. I have to visit this place twice a month and now I'm going to be trying some self medicating shit to see if I can avoid the fuck out of it and only go in in full PPE when I can.

One even coughed without covering their mouth.

So, decide to warn folks on a local Facebook Page that they're not making an effort and wind up with a bunch of abuse hoping I don't "need any of them" in the near future.

I'll pretend to act all shocked if there's a large scale outbreak due to the fucking stupidity of some staff in the near future.

Dropped off some things at my local pharmacy, and there were markers outside the pharmacy 2 metres apart so people knew where to stand and they restricted people to 2 inside the shop and pharmacy staff even conducted isolating proceedures to hand over prescriptions.

Local shops are increasingly doing the same, limiting customers into the shops and placing markers down outside where people should stand.

But apparently, fuck the local hospital.
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How dare you criticise OUR ENN HAYCH ESS!? THE HARD WORKING NURSES!
THE ENVY OF THE WORLD!
HERETIC!

I have a full house of Wuflu symptoms and will be giving the NHS a wide berth unless/until I start having trouble breathing.

The sad reality is that NHS staff I've interacted with previously had a nasty tendency to be thick, self-glorifying, entitled oafs who seriously buy their own bullshit. See also teachers.
 
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We should have listened.

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Champion The Wonder Horse said:
How dare you criticise OUR ENN HAYCH ESS!? THE HARD WORKING NURSES!
THE ENVY OF THE WORLD!
HERETIC!

I have a full house of Wuflu symptoms and will be giving the NHS a wide berth unless/until I start having trouble breathing.

The sad reality is that NHS staff I've interacted with previously had a nasty tendency to be thick, self-glorifying, entitled oafs who seriously buy their own bullshit. See also teachers.
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Its worse because the staff I deal with are always great and very friendly and they know I don't tend to complain about "the usual" (namely when it's busy) but now I am going to have to go in and out like Darth fucking Vader for my own damn safety.

I was waiting on some consultant's/specialists advice before taking CBD oil to help with my condition but I'm going to give it a try as I might be isolated for 3 months and if I can only go there once I'll try.
 
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RodgerDodger said:
to remind all, at this stage don’t dwell too much on increasing numbers of positive tests. The number of infected. At this point testing is just starting to catch up with the actual numbers. That number really tells us nothing. It doesn’t mean more people are being infected, it just means more testing is being done. It looks scary, but really isn’t. We know testing to this point has at best been catching 5-10% of those with it.

the real numbers to watch. Cases requiring hospitalization, Deaths, and the ration of those tested to positive tests. Ie how many tests come back negative? That will better tell the tale.
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i get that the real numbers are much inflated and it takes time for testing to catch up, but i do think getting more accurate numbers would help people to take it seriously and do as theyre told, especially in the US. With shit like West Virginia just not testing anyone forever, to make the claim that everything is fine here, please keep spending money! it's no wonder they dont take it seriously.

No one wants to incite panic, but if, instead of thinking "oh theres maybe only a handful of cases in my state I'll probably never run into them so SPRING BREAK WOOOOO PARTY TIME!!!!" people saw that there were in fact thousands, hundreds of thousands in their vicinity they might just bolt and lock the door, and stay the fuck home for a few weeks like everyone is telling them to.
 
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