Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[mdrop22]

I've heard some people tossing around different OTC medications that may help with symptoms of COVID-19. I have some thoughts on them and their efficacy. I'm going to preface this by saying I'm not a doctor, I'm not a nurse, I didn't even go to medical school. I'm just a internet weirdo who really loves drugs - OTC, prescription, illegal, or research chemical. Anyway,

Spoiler: Robitussin sperging

Lots of people talking about buying Robitussin products and different cold/flu combination formulas. These may actually do more damage than not taking anything at all. The main ingredient in Robitussin brand name products is generally Dextromethorphan (common name: DXM). DXM works by suppressing your body's natural urge to cough. This is great if you have a dry, hacking cough that is keeping you up all night long, or rubbing your throat raw. However, if you have a lot of fluid build up in the lungs, like with pneumonia, suppressing a cough is not a good idea. Coughing is how your lungs clear themselves. So be careful when taking products containing DXM. I would suggest it only as a last resort, when you're fucking tired of coughing all night and need some rest.

Also, if you take 300mg or more of DXM, expect a nice dissociative drug experience. Lots of people do this by accident, especially when taking unmeasured doses throughout the day. The doses compound on each other, and make each subsequent dose stronger. So just watch out for this. You're not dying or anything, just high as hel.

Spoiler: Tylenol, Guaf, and other OTC meds

The real ingredient you're looking for is Guaifenesin. This is an expectorant, which means it helps your body clear unnecessary fluids. It can help a runny nose "run it's course" (for lack of a better phrase), and it can help loosen mucus build up in the lungs. This is commonly found in Mucinex brand name products, but just check the damn labels. You can find generic Guaf syrup for like $3.99 a bottle. It's probably at the dollar store too.

As far as Tylenol, Aleve, Bayer, Advil, Ibuprofen, etc. They all belong to the same group, called NSAIDs (Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug), and do *mostly* the same things. They can all break a fever. But I've heard some seriously conflicting information about whether this is a smart thing to do. On one hand, the fever kills the virus and is part of your body's natural defense system. On the other hand, letting a fever run wild can cause brain and other organ damage. This is a cost-benefit analysis you or your doctor have to make. I wouldn't go popping any Tylenol for a low grade fever though.

Just make sure you actually read the label on the cold/flu combination formulas. They vary greatly and may have a bunch of ingredients that are useless for COVID-19. For instance, a lot of them contain a nasal decongestant like pseudoephedrine (Sudafed brand name) or phenylephrine. From what I've read, a runny nose is not a prominent symptom here. Both can also act as mild stimulants, which may not feel too good while also sick as a dog.

Not gonna even touch on the hydroxychloroquine situation. People are too stupid to even research what their OTC drugs are, yet alone malaria medication they've never heard of. Just don't unless you really trust yourself to get it right.

 

[Freya]

Have people already started being harassed for being out of their houses in the US yet?

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

"It's America. We're supposed to be a first-world country." - smart person with very expensive degree who apparently has never walked around her own city

I bet she also supports letting third-world immigrants in, too. The US doesn't have third-world conditions because the original inhabitants got poorer, it's got them because it let a load of third-worlders in. And people like her called everyone who questioned that a white supremacist. Rich NYC leftists are some of the most irritating people I've ever encountered.

 

[Yeeted Teet]

Those are some strange numbers for admissions.

25-34 much higher than 35-44
45-54 over 55-64
And why is the 45-54 ICU number almost as high as the 65+ but the 55-64 lower than the 45-54?

Could be a few unfortunate people who already had conditions that hadn't killed them yet? The numbers are still low enough that a handful of people with asthma or heart conditions or cancer will significantly effect the percentages. The PDF I got those grids from had a section on clusters and there were cases in hospitals, nursing homes and long term care facilities.

It's worth mentioning that Ireland already had very high rates of lung disease, We're above the EU average for COPD, way above any other European country for cystic fibrosis, and near the top of the list for asthma.

 

[dopy]

Welp, thats the last straw. Gonna go buy a pistol today. The 2A people were right all along.

we mad max now, bruh

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[Not Really Here]

In the States, don't they legally have to recusitate if there is no DNR in place?

You ask that question as if there were(or could be) some enforceable Federal standard.
It really depends on the doctor deciding in the moment if they should try more or again.

 

[Male Idiot]

Romanian company apparently wants to speed up vaccine testing.

If I get it right, they are testing on cultured human tissue and want to go into human tests after it. This likely means skipping animal trials. I can see this being reckless, but this is do or die, and beside they can do human tests on gypsies too.

Romanians correct me if I got it wrong or the Hungarian article was badly translated.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

New contagion map made public on the media:

They claim contagions fall again. I wonder who the fuck is making tests and where he is. Severo ochoa collapsed temporarily today.

Basically. We really are st the top of the fucking curve. The government claims it's distributed masks to us. Yeah, the ministry did then the junta took them and sent them to madrid. That they are hiding. Malaga's hospital had the right idea and made the donations as public as possible with people claping and everything to turn it into a political statement so the Junta can't fuck with them. The media is rolling with it but I know the PP is FUMING that they did this. Reminder Malaga is where the biggest andalusian outbreak is, they really fucking need this shit. But that's spain for you, the politicians only care about looks.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

I bet she also supports letting third-world immigrants in, too. The US doesn't have third-world conditions because the original inhabitants got poorer, it's got them because it let a load of third-worlders in. And people like her called everyone who questioned that a white supremacist. Rich NYC leftists are some of the most irritating people I've ever encountered.

It’s about time they actually have to deal with the consequences of their actions for once.

 

[Non-Expert!]

You ask that question as if there were(or could be) some enforceable Federal standard.
It really depends on the doctor deciding in the moment if they should try more or again.

Thank you for the information.

Well not federal maybe, but civil?

Sorry, shooting craps in the dark with regard to this issue.

 

[Not Really Here]

Could be a few unfortunate people who already had conditions that hadn't killed them yet? The numbers are still low enough that a handful of people with asthma or heart conditions or cancer will significantly effect the percentages. The PDF I got those grids from had a section on clusters and there were cases in hospitals, nursing homes and long term care facilities.

It's worth mentioning that Ireland already had very high rates of lung disease, We're above the EU average for COPD, way above any other European country for cystic fibrosis, and near the top of the list for asthma.

I know the sample size is still small but it sure seems like a group there who were born between 1966 and 1975 are weak AF.

 

[XYZpdq]

we mad max now, bruh

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AWWW YEAH TIME TO CALL SOME RANDOS TO CHECK IF THEIR REFRIGERATOR IS RUNNING

 

[Silence of the Troons]

Swedish state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell 25/2: "[We don't need to quarantine the people who just came back from Italy because] the probability that the virus will spread further is low" https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/K377RX/okad-risk-att-coronaviruset-far-spridning-i-sverige

Swedish state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell 26/3: "The ones that are dying from Corona now were infected four weeks ago"

”Inga diskussioner om karantän i Stockholm” | SvD

Stockholm är hårdast drabbat med en snabb ökning av antalet coronafall inom vården. Prognosen är att Göteborg och Malmö ligger cirka en till två veckor efter huvudstaden. – Sverige börjar komma i den fas då det går ganska snabbt uppåt, säger Anders Tegnell, statsepidemiolog.

www.svd.se

 

[FuckGoogle]

Anyone else wanting Trump to open up everything to finally remove the blight of the Boomers from this earth.?

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Welp, thats the last straw. Gonna go buy a pistol today. The 2A people were right all along.

we mad max now, bruh

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I REALLY don't get this shit. What the fuck are the cops doing? With the fucking plague going around they should be MORE strict not less I thought that was obvious!

Fucking hell at least here in spain our cops are doing their job if they went full retard like that we'd have a lot more issues.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

WHEW LADS WE DID IT NEXT STOP 1 MILLION!

 

[FuckGoogle]

WHEW LADS WE DID IT NEXT STOP 1 MILLION!

Man this is the first thing china has actually created vs just bootlegging in 1000 years

 

[cuddle striker]

You have no idea how bad it can really get. Numbers are late all the time. Literally all countries were late in reporting. It's just normal bureaucracy shit.

it's not late.
it's purposely inaccurate.

India needs to be on the poll. As bad as it is here, in the thick of it- it's going to be catastrophe there. I can't imagine.

 

[MrBlueSocks]

Could be a few unfortunate people who already had conditions that hadn't killed them yet? The numbers are still low enough that a handful of people with asthma or heart conditions or cancer will significantly effect the percentages. The PDF I got those grids from had a section on clusters and there were cases in hospitals, nursing homes and long term care facilities.

It's worth mentioning that Ireland already had very high rates of lung disease, We're above the EU average for COPD, way above any other European country for cystic fibrosis, and near the top of the list for asthma.

Yeah, I'm just going with statistical noise at those numbers. Far too few to expect a nice smooth curve . Clusters hitting one social group etc will skew things.

 

[Richard Harrow]

In the States, don't they legally have to recusitate if there is no DNR in place?

No. DNR is what it is, a request. Ultimately it's up to the hospital and the doctors in charge. Right now, the hospitals in New York are debating on automatic DNRs for those that lack a fighting chance. This is what is also known as healthcare rationing in socialist medicine. The federal govt sees no need, as of yet, to dictate every inch of our lives which is a good thing.