Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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You guys ever see those images that are meant to simulate what it's like to have a stroke?
I didn't think you could do the same thing with words, but there's a first for everything I suppose.
 
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This is one of those times I can't tell if Lily is being obtuse on purpose or not. Like she seems to come at the "lore problem" from the position of "all those fan theory videos are 100 percent serious and everyone is super fucking invested in even the dumbest of hot takes" but 90 percent of those "What if white diamond is greg's mother" youtube videos are literally just clickbait. They're like fanfiction starter prompts. I made the mistake of looking at one and it was thirty minutes of solid nothing.

So we know Lily is prone to glomming on to outrage for clicks, you think she'd be able to recognize other people doing the same thing in a more benign format.
 
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I can take a stab at that.

It seems that PokeMadhouse originally started as Lily just setting up a silly scenario and wanting to do silly things within the context of Pokemon. Gardevoir, being Lily's favoritest Pokemon ever, was of course there and was of course her best friend, but she was also using G as a subversion of the typical Gardevoir-- whereas Gardevoir oftentimes have their 'devotion to their trainer' interpreted in a distinctly, um... feminine way, G was brash, sassy, and originally seemed to be disgusted by the idea.

Before I go on, this occurred to be a little earlier today-- stories are defined by their stakes. These can range from deeply personal to world-ending, depending on your intended scope. For a slice of life comedy, this can be anything from tackling a character's common neuroses to a short story about somebody trying to buy milk and encountering a series of progressively stupider events on the way. Even in an Ask blog setting the characters usually have some kind of internal motivation for behaving the way they do, and that winds up defining their responses to the Askers.

Lily is a bad writer for a lot of reasons, but I think she has some understanding that writing usually involves some kind of core concept. In the case of Madhouse... there isn't anything. Lily just hangs out in a house. She has girlfriends that show up sometimes. Her Pokemon are... you know, there. Sometimes Butterfree is a little cute. But there's simply nothing going on. Nobody is defined by needs or desires. Nobody strives for anything. We never see Lily interacting with her girlfriends to even get a sense that maybe she wants love and affection, the Pokemon are just accessories, even G is defined less by who is and more by the absence of a concept. She isn't like those other Gardevoir who have been groomed to want to fuck their trainers, but what she is in return isn't clear. And you can't have a character defined just by absences.

(Well, you can, but that's usually a case of dealing in abstract or existential concepts and Lily ain't about that.)

I mean, like I said, even in slice of life comedy you can pull a story out of just going to the grocery store. Seinfeld famously was a show about nothing, but the interplay between the characters -- their own wants and desires and personalities clashing against each other -- is what made it fun to watch. At the end of the day nothing happened in a narrative sense, but that wasn't the point. Nothing wrong with that idea, either; the point of slice of life is to watch these character's lives and these little silly, dumb, or dramatic moments that they go through.

But introducing actual challenges to the house, or interpersonal strife, or even the idea of things not just being perfect in Lily's world is somehow abhorrent, even though author!Lily has an entire backstory for her character that she could plumb for interesting content. (And yes, I know, Lily can't write so it wouldn't actually be interesting, but at the very least things happened and there's conflict in the background. Related, but Lily has also screamed about how backstory is pointless and you should always be showing the most interesting part of a character's life so why do we see her comic self-insert just sitting around the house all day when she used to be a League Enforcer breaking up Pokemon sex trafficking rings or whatever? Why don't we see G actually struggling with her decision to mind-rape Lily instead of being told everything after the fact? Even things that are happening in the present have the wrong focus; the whole thing with Bonnie literally has the scientist say 'Guess we gotta kill it!' and then it just smash-cuts to Lily looking vaguely disappointing in a corner of the room, why not show her actually protesting? I know the answer, this is all rhetorical.)

The comic's just spinning its wheels, frankly, but then Lily starts getting messages from her fans. She has admitted that she only started doing Lilyvoir stuff because her fans demanded it, and she probably made it the most demented, ridiculous interpretation she could as a Fuck You to them. Yeah, you wanna see Lily in a relationship with G? Guess what motherfuckers it's gross and toxic and suddenly we have actual conflict and I'm not gonna lie-- if Lily had actually buckled down and explored this fucked up relationship she wrote, it would be legitimately interesting. Fucked up, but, you know... something would be happening. Characters would be clashing. Questions about morality would be coming up and the answers would be messy.

So Lily has introduced conflict, and that's great. Maybe she's even interested in exploring some of it-- I mean I guess she must be if she's been following this for so long and just keeps dipping back into the well, refusing to let G ever make real progress. But she's also in a situation where real conflict can't actually happen because otherwise her self-insert would have to deal with something, so instead it becomes a series of vignettes where you're threatened with something possibly happening and then it just fizzles because writing is hard you guys. She's probably also enjoying the idea of her self-insert exerting absolute emotional control over this incredibly powerful, protective entity that would literally die for her while she barely has to engage with it.

So I think the situation is twofold. Lily keeps bringing up 'power dynamics' and I suspect she very much likes to play with this particular power dynamic and is doing everything in her power to force it in place while not actually thinking about the consequences or implications, she just wants to get to what she wants in the easiest way possible, which is instant gratification for both her comic self and her real self. And her real self gets instant gratification from fans praising her and she's figured out that Lilyvoir drama probably attracts the most interactive attention. As long as she keeps teasing her fans, she'll keep getting that endorphin rush, so it's both in her best interests to keep stringing people along and also just the path of least resistance to never change the status quo.



tl;dr
Lily is bad at writing and desperate for attention.
This actually reminds me of a discussion I witnessed about another bad webcomic: Questionable Content.

The thing about conflict in a story is that it only works if the writer is willing to make their characters at least a little uncomfortable, and a common criticism of QC is that its absolutely unwilling to do that. At most a character will be mildly inconvenienced, if even that, and it will barely last for more than a page. A lot of fans used to say that that was the appeal, QC was supposed to be toothless and boring and devoid of direction because even the mildest SoL problem would be too much for their delicate sensibilities.

Madhouse I think has a similar problem, Orchard clearly can’t stand inconveniencing his self-inserts outside of melodrama designed to make viewers go "poor baby uwu," but it‘s made all the more glaring by how fucked up the context is.

Although I’m not sure the Lilyvoir stuff is a middle finger to fans considering his history with writing Pokémon porn. It comes off more like he‘s trying to have his cake and eat it in that he wants to have it happen, but found a niche in the kind of Tumblr fandoms that would tear him a new asshole if he pulled the trigger on it - so the compromise is this weird in-between where Lily and G have all the trappings of a fandom ship - a soul bond, weird sex jokes and situations involving the two of the, other characters shipping it in-universe, etc. - but then puts Lily in this virtuous pedo/forbidden love role to claim she’ll never act on it. If anything, I think Orchard is deliberately putting in ship-teases, so to speak, as a not-so-subtle wink to the Poke-diddlers out there. "Slow burn" is genre in fanfics for a reason after all.
 
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You guys ever see those images that are meant to simulate what it's like to have a stroke?
I didn't think you could do the same thing with words, but there's a first for everything I suppose.
She does realize that all the Easter eggs are invoked by the creator and fan theories are actively encouraged by him, right?
I get that she has a stick up her ass whenever don’t shut up and consoom, but she’s just missing the whole point of a show. Can’t wait till Owl House becomes more lore focused.
Not sure what being straight has to do with it.
Something something straight people are oppressive for existing.
Ironically, man people who push male/female ships are actually bisexual rather than straight. Who’d a thunk it.
 
New stream.

By the way, now that I've fully caught up on Peet's streams in the YouTube archive, I've decided to finally try things a little differently.
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I just wanna show off something that isn't of any particular significance but is kinda funny if you try to think about it for too long.
The 1-3 alternate universe of the multiverse around this webcomic.
Aside from being a literal one off joke the details here are so trite to the point that you'd wanna assume it's parody. the trivia section includes that it's 1-3 which is a play on 13 being an unlucky number because of how unlucky and unfortunate this version of Lily and Gardevoir are.
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And the "best" detail. this version of comci!Lily not socialising with anyone is a "minor" change. I'm laughing because; What friends? we only ever see Comic!lily talking to Mikaila, the one time we ever saw her talking to a friend they weren't in a romantic relationship with was Sketchy and that was desginated a non canon one-off. and the only other humans we see Lily interact with were the scientist from that lab, and whats-her face who's whole purpose was to tell ComicLily that she was in a tabloid(which naturally amounted to nothing despite the comic establishing that shit gets inspected by the authorities but I digress) Comic!lily has no friends.

It's amazing how bad the writing is even down to the bullshit wiki trivia
 
The only thing Lily doesn't have in common with other popular cows at this point (DSP, Gurg, CWC) is that she isn't having financial issues.

She isn't desperate and constantly begging for money yet, anyways.
 
This is one of those times I can't tell if Lily is being obtuse on purpose or not. Like she seems to come at the "lore problem" from the position of "all those fan theory videos are 100 percent serious and everyone is super fucking invested in even the dumbest of hot takes" but 90 percent of those "What if white diamond is greg's mother" youtube videos are literally just clickbait. They're like fanfiction starter prompts. I made the mistake of looking at one and it was thirty minutes of solid nothing.

So we know Lily is prone to glomming on to outrage for clicks, you think she'd be able to recognize other people doing the same thing in a more benign format.
I think it comes from Lily thinking that there is only one way to "enjoy" a cartoon, you have to turn off the brain and anything that raises questions is bad

people who make theories like Roundtable, SliceofOtaku and Cartoon Universe are not making demands, they are having fun discussing the shows they like and making them more interesting by building suspense and anticipation with upcoming epsodios

it just shows how much the show appeals to all audiences (nobody makes theories about mindless comedy cartoons) and none of these theories damage the show, yes they use information that the show gives them to make them as consistent as possible (at least the most serious). and if the producer is bothered by speculation, it only shows how insecure he is because he does not know how to write something equally interesting or change everything because someone suggested it correctly

and it is in this space that Lily is, where she condemns lore but ends up creating backstories and pieces of lore on the wiki and ask and when someone questions an inconsistency or wants more information she shame them for it and says how stupid it is to ask questions and show investment (comicLily's backstory is hundreds of times more exciting than anything that has happened so far, and Aliana has one that is explored in the fanfic not to mention the super necessary lore of her ship)
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I think it comes from Lily thinking that there is only one way to "enjoy" a cartoon, you have to turn off the brain and anything that raises questions is bad

people who make theories like Roundtable, SliceofOtaku and Cartoon Universe are not making demands, they are having fun discussing the shows they like and making them more interesting by building suspense and anticipation with upcoming epsodios

it just shows how much the show appeals to all audiences (nobody makes theories about mindless comedy cartoons) and none of these theories damage the show, yes they use information that the show gives them to make them as consistent as possible (at least the most serious). and if the producer is bothered by speculation, it only shows how insecure he is because he does not know how to write something equally interesting or change everything because someone suggested it correctly

and it is in this space that Lily is, where she condemns lore but ends up creating backstories and pieces of lore on the wiki and ask and when someone questions an inconsistency or wants more information she shame them for it and says how stupid it is to ask questions and show investment (comicLily's backstory is hundreds of times more exciting than anything that has happened so far, and Aliana has one that is explored in the fanfic not to mention the super necessary lore of her ship)
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It's actually fascinating how much Lily is willing to go just to spite other people. Why did she even bother bringing up those theory videos when they have nothing to do with the review she was making?
 
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Lily "just don't vote" Orchard.

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Googling Darth Amorosa....
The first page links to; Mikaila's Twitter. Her Tumblr. The Fanfic page, The Tumblr search engine tags for "Aliana Beniko" and "Aliana-Beniko" oh and Me. Oh also The tumblr tags are literally all posts by Mikaila and Lily. So [Citation Needed]

oh also Aliana Beniko is literally just Lana Beniko with a fucking "A" and "I" added.
 
So Steven Universe is officially over. Wonder what Lily will do in response. Will she finally shut up about it? Will she make one final video on it? Or will she still be complaining about it in 5 years?
 
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Lily "just don't vote" Orchard.

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Googling Darth Amorosa....
The first page links to; Mikaila's Twitter. Her Tumblr. The Fanfic page, The Tumblr search engine tags for "Aliana Beniko" and "Aliana-Beniko" oh and Me. Oh also The tumblr tags are literally all posts by Mikaila and Lily. So [Citation Needed]

oh also Aliana Beniko is literally just Lana Beniko with a fucking "A" and "I" added.
So in addition to a horrible writer Jerry is basically a plagiarist. This just gets better and better.
 
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Lily "just don't vote" Orchard.

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Googling Darth Amorosa....
The first page links to; Mikaila's Twitter. Her Tumblr. The Fanfic page, The Tumblr search engine tags for "Aliana Beniko" and "Aliana-Beniko" oh and Me. Oh also The tumblr tags are literally all posts by Mikaila and Lily. So [Citation Needed]

oh also Aliana Beniko is literally just Lana Beniko with a fucking "A" and "I" added.
You forgot the follow up post
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Since Disney now owns the rights to Star Wars, any content or characters they produce are treated as official and part of canon. (Until it's retconned)

OCs don't count. I dont care what some edgy loser thinks Star Wars needs, especially if it's just "me, but brown and I get to kiss Rey"
Edit: Steele thyselves we have another
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The fact Mikaila calls the hybrid thing "her" baby rather than "our" baby is just further evidence of how decorative she is overall, that she is not even really considered part of the family to have any discernable role. She only exist to make the ocassional comedic comment by being stupid, so basically she is a human Butterfree.
 
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The fact Mikaila calls the hybrid thing "her" baby rather than "our" baby is just further evidence of how decorative she is overall, that she is not even really considered part of the family to have any discernable role. She only exist to make the ocassional comedic comment by being stupid, so basically she is a human Butterfree.
It's almost like, -^_*gasp*_^-, she never even cared about Mikaila and just wanted someone to draw her shitty cartoon for her!
 
You forgot the follow up post
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Since Disney now owns the rights to Star Wars, any content or characters they produce are treated as official and part of canon. (Until it's retconned)

OCs don't count. I dont care what some edgy loser thinks Star Wars needs, especially if it's just "me, but brown and I get to kiss Rey"
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Oh...funny how I mentioned her last page and now here that character is. So science lady has shown up to...probably say sorry (and be rejected) and then reveal a plot thread that either won't pay out, pay out in the least fun possinle way, or will be dropped entirely because the writers pick up and drop plot lines on a whim.

Also stole the words right out of my mouth with the "Disney's OC's" part.
 
Oh...funny how I mentioned her last page and now here that character is. So science lady has shown up to...probably say sorry (and be rejected) and then reveal a plot thread that either won't pay out, pay out in the least fun possinle way, or will be dropped entirely because the writers pick up and drop plot lines on a whim.

Also stole the words right out of my mouth with the "Disney's OC's" part.
Let's see how accurately we can guess the plot of this arc. Since Jerry doesn't have an original bone in his body, it can't be hard. Let's see...ponytail lady comes to show the besiality crew some footage or data logs showing that Gardevoir stole Jerry's blood sample in order to create the hybrid, and nobody cares because Bonnie's a bigger Mary Sue than the rest of the cast. But ponytail lady threatens to go to the cops for tampering with a science experiment and there's drama and Gardevoir feels bad for ruining everything and goes to sulk in her room but Jerry walks in and says she did the right thing and they trust each other and hug, so they walk out and smugly tell ponytail lady they have evidence that the lab did illegal activities too, so if Gardevoir goes to jail so does ponytail lady. Then we immediately cut to random sketches of Bonnie doing """cute""" things and never mention any of this again.
 
Let's see how accurately we can guess the plot of this arc. Since Jerry doesn't have an original bone in his body, it can't be hard. Let's see...ponytail lady comes to show the besiality crew some footage or data logs showing that Gardevoir stole Jerry's blood sample in order to create the hybrid, and nobody cares because Bonnie's a bigger Mary Sue than the rest of the cast. But ponytail lady threatens to go to the cops for tampering with a science experiment and there's drama and Gardevoir feels bad for ruining everything and goes to sulk in her room but Jerry walks in and says she did the right thing and they trust each other and hug, so they walk out and smugly tell ponytail lady they have evidence that the lab did illegal activities too, so if Gardevoir goes to jail so does ponytail lady. Then we immediately cut to random sketches of Bonnie doing """cute""" things and never mention any of this again.
Nah, it's a female character, those can't be bad.
Given the look of concern on the scientist lady's face I'd say Bonnie is either sick or doing some stupid psychic shit, due to Gardevoir being special, or she's there to tell them the government is coming to confiscate Bonnie like a crack baby.
Or she's there to tell them they can't have Bonnie due to the stupid convoluted rule that Lily can't have more than two gardevoirs.
Either way prepare for dissapointment.
 
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