[16-Jan-2020] DarksydePhil is filing for bankruptcy (general thread) - and has officially done so on January 31 2020, meaning a lot of his finances have become public

What will happen with his case following the 341 meeting?

  • Still gets Chapter 7

    Votes: 126 18.1%
  • Changed to Chapter 13 and ultimately fails to make his required payments

    Votes: 218 31.3%
  • Chapter 13 and successfully completed all payments

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Complete dismissal of the bankruptcy

    Votes: 334 47.9%

  • Total voters
    697
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EDIT: @AnOminous or @SoapQueen1 or other legal autists on this subforum, it's been speculated that the CT khando mortgage was through HUD/FHA. How does Trump's order to halt foreclosures on FHA backed properties interact here?

I don't know. I don't know if it is through HUD.

She does not have to inform the bankruptcy court about other services she provides to Phil unless she bills it against the original $1,200 fee.

At some point Phil has to disclose money spent after the bankruptcy on legal fees. He can't just let his lawyer charge him a million dollars and dissipate the estate that way to screw his creditors. I'm pretty sure he doesn't have to disclose that before the hearing, though. Maybe some time later.
 
idk how it is in WA but here tips are taxed still. unless the person is giving you cold hard cash that you dont report. if they put your tip on the check and it goes through the system. itll be taxed
Reading the link could have saved you from making a useless post. Nobody cares how they do it where you live unless you live in WA. Tips are evidently tax free in WA. My question is does the money Phil collects from paypigs count as a tips as considered by the government? Just because he calls it a tip doesn't mean it is one. The DOR website states that tip jars left by a business for customers to voluntarily pay into is non-taxable. Does the state see Phil as having a virtual tip jar? Streamers always called them donations until people realized that donation can have a connotation that the amount given is tax deductible because it's going to a non-profit. I assume they also wanted their job to seem less like begging.

Why would he have paid taxes on his tips, which it looks like he has going by the numbers available, if they aren't taxable? That's moot as far as the feds are concerned for the purposes of Chapter 7 bankruptcy. The Chapter 7 Statement of Your Monthly Income certainly counts them as part of your gross income:

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Now if you get them in cash that you never deposit into an account and they aren't reported to the IRS, how is the court to know you're committing fraud? If you report them on your taxes and have them deposited into their own specific Paypal account connected to you name and 6 months worth of records for that account are requested by the trustee in your bankruptcy after trying to conceal them, then you might be up shit creek without a paddle.
 
Tips aren't taxed in the state of Washington for the purpose of paying income taxes to the State of Washington because Washington has no state income tax. He is still taxed federally on his tips as income, he just doesn't pay any tax to the state of Washington on his tips because he doesn't pay tax to the state of Washington on any income he earns.

To make up for this Washington has a very high sales tax and many local municipalities have a higher sales tax slapped on top of this. Washington state has a 6.5% sales tax and Renton has a 3.5% sales tax slapped on top of that so Phil's local sales tax rate is 10% on anything he buys. In Seattle it's 10.1%. The wording in that link is to try to stop sellers from undervaluing their goods and then adding a line on the bill for a "mandatory gratuity" charge to try to claim part of the sales price as tax free income regarding paying the state of Washington, it's just to plug a loophole.
 
Not sure whether this should be here or in general thread, but people were talking about the stimulus money going out soon. If Phil and Kat file/have filed their taxes for 2019 and owe money as we expect, will Kat actually receive that money, or will it be applied to the tax debt? I'm assuming Phil's 2018 tax debt will have nothing to do with it since they didn't file jointly then.
 
Not sure whether this should be here or in general thread, but people were talking about the stimulus money going out soon. If Phil and Kat file/have filed their taxes for 2019 and owe money as we expect, will Kat actually receive that money, or will it be applied to the tax debt? I'm assuming Phil's 2018 tax debt will have nothing to do with it since they didn't file jointly then.
That will depend if the government will freeze any tax debts for the time being due to the unstable economy. Here in Germany any tax debts from former years have been put on hold for a few months for (small) business owners who are in risk of going out of business due to the lack of customers. Same goes for some specific monthly business taxes that I don't know the english wording for. At the same time, these owners can apply for government funds through the KfW bank (non-returnable one-time payments for small businesses, zero interest loans for middle class businesses). These can be applied for even if you are already in debt otherwise or have taxes due. I would imagine that the US government has something similar in action, as it wouldn't make much sense to grant struggling business owners some stimulus money, just to deprive them of the lifebuoy for the sake of the IRS.
 
PayPal has a few options when you send money, one being a GIFT that (at least it used to) incurs no fees.

DSP constantly complains about the 30 cent fees from PayPal. Does that mean his tips are monies rendered for a good or service thus not being donations/tips and are fully taxable?
 
Not sure whether this should be here or in general thread, but people were talking about the stimulus money going out soon. If Phil and Kat file/have filed their taxes for 2019 and owe money as we expect, will Kat actually receive that money, or will it be applied to the tax debt? I'm assuming Phil's 2018 tax debt will have nothing to do with it since they didn't file jointly then.

Alright...looks like we have another no life morahn obsessed with my wife. *LEAN IN* Its her money d00d and it has nothing to do with what I need from you and how much YOU need to step up. Its not like I repeatedly referred to her as a second income and used the financial relief she would supposedly bring as one of the justifications to spend money to bring her over and marry her. Some people are just idiots and need to be purged from the gene pool SMH.
 
Dsp says his tips are exempt from taxes

I don't think IRS would agree on that.
Sure, as the links states, it might not require that sales-tax is paid on it, but Phil sure as hell will still have to report it and pay federal income tax on it.

I think that if you report a tax evation to the IRS and they take action, you may be eligble to 30% of the moneies that the IRS recovers. Just saying.
 
Why didnt DSP hire his wife as part of Burnell Productions and give her a seattle standard minimum wage job at 40 hours a week?

Yeah itd be bogus but then he could say she was working full time and also hide part of his income.

It wouldn't 'help' but it might convince thr trustee to just grant his chapter 7 because he's clearly a fucking moron.
 
Why didnt DSP hire his wife as part of Burnell Productions and give her a seattle standard minimum wage job at 40 hours a week?

Yeah itd be bogus but then he could say she was working full time and also hide part of his income.
Why do people keep saying shit like this?

Do you think he included her income on the bankruptcy documents just to brag about how much she busts her ass working half time for minimum wage stocking the clothing aisle at Fred Meyer? You can't hide money from the fucking government by saying it's your spouse's. It's BOTH of your property which means if either person fucks up the courts can take it away. I shouldn't have to say this once a month.
 
Not sure whether this should be here or in general thread, but people were talking about the stimulus money going out soon. If Phil and Kat file/have filed their taxes for 2019 and owe money as we expect, will Kat actually receive that money, or will it be applied to the tax debt? I'm assuming Phil's 2018 tax debt will have nothing to do with it since they didn't file jointly then.
It's a lot more likely that Kat will get a check and Phil will not. It really depends on the tax information they pull up. The idea that the senate implemented was utilizing the 2018 return because they're all complete and the information was readily accessible when the Relief Bill was proposed on the Senate floor (with the intention of getting this done QUICK). So we're talking filed in 2019 for any income earned in 2018. The tax filing date was pushed back into summer of this year so they (Senate) decided that a 2020 filing (for tax year 2019) would leave too many out. My estimate is that Darksfuhdil made too much money to make the cut (+95k) but Kat likely had little to no income that year, or at the very least did not make nearly what Gout Inc. brought in.

[Addition: Forgivable loans: There is $350 billion allocated for the Small Business Administration to provide loans of up to $10 million per business. Any portion of that loan used to maintain payroll, keep workers on the books or pay for rent, mortgage and existing debt could be forgiven, provided workers stay employed through the end of June.]

He could even apply for a emergency grant for up to 10k to maintain operating costs (not sure what the terms are specifically). The issue is, he doesn't employ anyone other than himself so even if he could take out a loan, which he can't because bankruptcy proceedings have already started, it wouldn't be forgivable unless he hired someone and used the money to maintain payroll.
 
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It's a lot more likely that Kat will get a check and Phil will not. It really depends on the tax information they pull up. The idea that the senate implemented was utilizing the 2018 return because they're all complete and the information was readily accessible when the Relief Bill was proposed on the Senate floor (with the intention of getting this done QUICK). So we're talking filed in 2019 for any income earned in 2018. The tax filing date was pushed back into summer of this year so they (Senate) decided that a 2020 filing (for tax year 2019) would leave too many out. My estimate is that Darksfuhdil made too much money to make the cut (+95k) but Kat likely had little to no income that year, or at the very least did not make nearly what Gout.Inc brought in.

the way I see it, she's still working, lives in a $400,000 condo, her husband brings in 6 figures, she doesn't need it
 
the way I see it, she's still working, lives in a $400,000 condo, her husband brings in 6 figures, she doesn't need it
Yep, and that's government in a nutshell for you. People will fall through the cracks, it's inevitable, which is why Kat is likely to get a check anyways. (Since they filed separately 2018 . Nothing we can do!!!! :stress:
 
Is anyone autistic enough to make even a rough list of all the stupid fucking statues he has and compare it to the "zero collectibles" listed on his bankruptcy form?
 
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Is anyone autistic enough to make even a rough list of all the stupid fucking statues he has and compare it to the "zero collectibles" listed on his bankruptcy form?

If the trustee had a list of Phil's gaming shit, she probably also has been sent evidence of all the other crap Phil has in the house. Most likely just asked about the electronics to see how Phil has intertwined his business and personal stuff like an idjiot.
 
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