Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Jub-Jub]

Collection of "pro's" bitching about Fraga.

I'm in the discord, seems to be a mass flagging. I don't know what they said, but someone must have been triggered as fucked

Apparently their site was DDOSD just before they could post about Disney suspending park operations, so it could also be a buthurt Disney fag.

EDIT:

This is absolutely spectacular. While everyone else was prepared to go down with Diamond's ship, DC Comics just said, "We're only exclusive to you while you're a functioning operation. Fuck you. We're going to blow up at WAL MART and TARGET now, which are both open for the extent of the Pandemic, and we're going to find mini distributors who will get our books to whatever retailers remain."

Wasn't the recent DC at Walmart experiment considered a failure?

 

[Gee Willows Wilson!]

Currently wading through mags' twitter swamp. (Gods help me). They are excited because it was trending #7 at some point last night. Which I mean, kudos? What else is in the news besides Corona and Animal Crossing?

I'm looking for a specific back and forth she had with one of the actors on her show, praising him, and him basically giving her (the show's creator) an automated "Thank you for being a fan" response. Fucking bust my gut laughing so hard... But now I can't find it under all the tweets.

Typical responses, anyone with a thinks it's the best show they've ever seen... Which says more about their watch lists. Yagurl Ren who was retweeted by Mags can't even scrape past 30 likes. She loves the show, are we surprised? Her taste in story/writing has never been the best. She's almost as bad as yaboi's taste in movies.

Anyone with a bigger brain than I, and who knows how to even post up tweets, feel free to try and find the one I am talking about. I'm tapped out.

EDIT: Mags is engaged?

 

[KingofNothing]

Collection of "pro's" bitching about Fraga.

This is just gonna make Fraga dig in deeper. People really like it when you call them bigots over nonsense

Apparently their site was DDOSD just before they could post about Disney suspending park operations, so it could also be a buthurt Disney fag.

Yeah, I just saw that when I checked their twitters and that sounds like it was. They've managed to tick off quite a number of autists with their videos

 

[Adamska]

YouTube just nuked Clownfish TVs livestream talking about the collapse of the comic book industry for "violating the terms of service".

I think it's because Mundane Matt's abusing takedowns again like the crying bitch he is since they reference him a bit on that one. It's funny because they think of him as a literal who they ran into on twitter once.

 

[Mister Dongs]

@FROG seems annoyed at SJWs making "Snoopy sex worker comics"having a pass in the industry and that seemed crazy until I remembered that Dave "garfield hentai" Rapoza is making covers for the Spider-Verse series.

Buts since the garfield hentai guy is the most talented artist involved with current mainstream comics by far, I can't really support the complaint.

Spoiler: extreme haram

Edwin Boyette threw out some shit about just mailing out crowdfunded comics in envelopes Stealing Solo-style to lower shipment costs, but people aren't having it and it's lowering confidence in Smiller's overleveraged projects since Boyette and Miller's online presence is so intertwined at this point they're one and the same.

Liam Gray livestreamed for six hours while his colorists worked on his project Xenotype, but was interrupted at the end to go fight in the street in his livestreaming tuxedo to break up a domestic assault occurring outside wherever the fuck he lives.

Spoiler

I'd just like to point that between the clear acoustics of that dog barking and the stray neighborhood cats attacking Liam yesterday along the likelihood of a restraining order taken against him by his mother, we have to consider the very real possibility that Liam isn't even livestreaming from an indoor location and is broadcasting from either some garden shed or backyard with a backdrop set up.

He then resumed streaming for a solid hour to outline his own philosophy as to what a new CGer's debut comic should be about - male lead, no team book - which then offended and confused Preston Poulter and his own comic creation method because like what would you even coom to in the comic if you did something like that? The guy?

 

[Steinercard]

Try the past two decades friend, if the industry dies it won't be because of the wokefad and idiots on Twitter.

This industry's been on life support for a long time, Marvel going bankrupt and being bought out by Disney in 09 should have been a huge wakeup call that something was wrong.

Marvel and DC's continued existence is sorely at the whims of their parent companies unlike Image and the others they don't need comic shops to survive.

You say that but I tell you this, the death of comics was gaurenteed because the industry for whatever reason failed to capitalise on the growing interest of Super Heroes at the height of Avengers popularity. People saw the Avengers film, walked into a comics shop, saw Iron Man was evil, and then a black woman who was also evil. They then walked out. The MCU should've been the signal for a biblical resurection of comics. They were handed it on a platter and they chose social justice. We would not be having this conversation if Marvel simply made quality comics with familiar characters to loosely tie into the release of their films. DC did the same fucking thing and changed out their characters for new ones at the worst possible time to do it.

 

[School of Fish]

YouTube just nuked Clownfish TVs livestream talking about the collapse of the comic book industry for "violating the terms of service".

So did they hired Matt Jarbo to do this? I won't be surprised if several individuals that work for the big comic book companies did this to them.

This is what cowards do when they are faced with the truth and reality; they try to silence the other side and get them deplatformed in the process.

 

[Adamska]

So did they hired Matt Jarbo to do this? I won't be surprised if several individuals that work for the big comic book companies did this to them.

This is what cowards do when they are faced with the truth and reality, try to silence the other side and get them deplatformed in the process.

You don't need to hire boulder man; he just cried and tard spammed takedowns with alts like a scum bag when they mentioned him in a not positive way. He's that much of a fat and irrelevant thinskinned bitch.

 

[Smug Freiza]

Collection of "pro's" bitching about Fraga.
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Apparently their site was DDOSD just before they could post about Disney suspending park operations, so it could also be a buthurt Disney fag.

EDIT:

Wasn't the recent DC at Walmart experiment considered a failure?

All that salt coming from the blue check marks, reminds me of the good ole days of CG

@FROG the enemy is showing weakness, take a break from Mike, Doug and Edwin and push this new front. Remind ex/anti/OG Comicsgate why they signed up in the first place. Watching blue check marks piss and cry is always a great unifying event, kwanza looks like his getting close to having a mini meltdown, help him along with it.

@FROG seems annoyed at SJWs making "Snoopy sex worker comics"having a pass in the industry and that seemed crazy until I remembered that Dave "garfield hentai" Rapoza is making covers for the Spider-Verse series.

Buts since the garfield hentai guy is the most talented artist involved with current mainstream comics by far, I can't really support the complaint.

Spoiler: extreme haram

Edwin Boyette threw out some shit about just mailing out crowdfunded comics in envelopes Stealing Solo-style to lower shipment costs, but people aren't having it and it's lowering confidence in Smiller's overleveraged projects since Boyette and Miller's online presence is so intertwined at this point they're one and the same.

Liam Gray livestreamed for six hours while his colorists worked on his project Xenotype, but was interrupted at the end to go walk out in his livestreaming tuxedo to break up a domestic assault occurring outside wherever the fuck he lives.

Spoiler

I'd just like to point that between the clear acoustics of that dog barking and the stray neighborhood cats attacking Liam yesterday along the likelihood of a restraining order taken against him by his mother, we have to consider the very real possibility that Liam isn't even livestreaming from an indoor location and is broadcasting from either some garden shed or backyard with a backdrop set up.

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He then resumed streaming for a solid hour to outline his own philosophy as to what a new CGer's debut comic should be about - male lead, no team book - which then offended and confused Preston Poulter and his own comic creation method because like what would you even coom to in the comic if you did something like that? The guy?

There weren't enough spoilers for that Garfield shit, but in fairness you did warn us.

Liam Gray has to be the worst offender of CG imho. Cridious and Martina being scammers is understandable, shit people exist. Mandy being a single mother THOT leeching off simps is nothing new. Even spergs like Warcampaign are outdone by the likes of Zoom and the GNAA, but Liam Gray just really rubs me the wrong way. Puppy killing and mother beating aside, the way the guy see's himself is pure cringe. If anyone wants an example of what I mean go look in the Dramawhores and Hanger On containment thread and check the posts of @Tyne (who is Gray). Page long essays on how he is going to save the comic industry and be the savior to children in Australia, the guy has a few nuts and bolts loose.

 

[Mister Dongs]

>he doesn't fund psychopaths on the fringes of society in exchange for comic books

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

There weren't enough spoilers for that Garfield shit, but in fairness you did warn us.

I love the amount of effort Dave Rapoza is putting into one, long Garfield shit-post.

 

[Jaimas]

Try the past two decades friend, if the industry dies it won't be because of the wokefad and idiots on Twitter.

This industry's been on life support for a long time, Marvel going bankrupt and being bought out by Disney in 09 should have been a huge wakeup call that something was wrong.

Marvel and DC's continued existence is sorely at the whims of their parent companies unlike Image and the others they don't need comic shops to survive.

You're right in that it won't be because of the wokefad shitheads on Twitter. It'll be because of who keeps hiring them, who happens to have the exact same ideology.

Comics are a niche market but it's one people are willing to pay for. They're not some massive exploitable resource but comics can make money and do well. The problem is that the industry is dominated right now by people who are absolutely willing to devastate a company if it means pushing their agenda. It's why so many movie studios keep buying into this same shit and flushing billions of dollars down the toilet. No one wants this shit, but they're gonna push it anyway and then claim that you're the problem when you won't accept their shitty product.

In Marvel's case, when they aren't hiring avowed anti-semites that are sneaking anti-semetic messages into their books, they're hiring untalented hack writers and artists based solely on their woke cred. When their books suck ass and no one wants them, they lash out at the fans for not buying their trash. When inevitably their books get cancelled, the people who hired these idiots then go and hire more degenerates from the same tainted well, who do the exact same shit, over and over and over again. The same assclowns that thought hiring Maggs was a good idea are the same ones that brought you Mr. Kibblesmith. They don't care that this is going to kill the industry; in fact they'd prefer that it did because it's better that it burns to the ground than allow those filthy fans to have it.

 

[CheezzyMach]

You say that but I tell you this, the death of comics was gaurenteed because the industry for whatever reason failed to capitalise on the growing interest of Super Heroes at the height of Avengers popularity. People saw the Avengers film, walked into a comics shop, saw Iron Man was evil, and then a black woman who was also evil. They then walked out. The MCU should've been the signal for a biblical resurection of comics. They were handed it on a platter and they chose social justice. We would not be having this conversation if Marvel simply made quality comics with familiar characters to loosely tie into the release of their films. DC did the same fucking thing and changed out their characters for new ones at the worst possible time to do it.

Except they tried that, they made Iron Man the face of Marvel for a few years after the MCU exploded,they changed character costumes to make them look like the movie and Netflix versions, they created a new Avengers book that had the exact same team line up as the movies and they pushed Black Panther hard after his movie got big. All of it failed.

Simple fact is normies don't buy monthly comics they've been niche and trapped in dying specialty shops for the past 30 years and the monthly magazine in general is suffering not just comics. What tends to spike though are old comics and collected editions which both companies have acknowledged sell better then new stuff.

My LCS has had people come into the shop looking for comics for their kids though thanks to the MCU but Marvel placed their bets on Neckbeards in the 90s and drove the kids out.

That's largely the reason they went so hard on jumping on the SocJus trend they want younger readers instead of being shackled to a shrinking demograph of hardcore older dudes and SocJus is the current trend in the youth at least according to Twitter.

Basically Marvel/DC took a failed gamble that they would gain more by appealing to the vapid attention whores on Twitter then lose by pissing off their old base.

Couple that with the TDS currently afflicting all Western entertainment and you have the current shitshow of creators being dicks on Twitter and doing their damnedest to drive away the diehards who are left.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

You say that but I tell you this, the death of comics was gaurenteed because the industry for whatever reason failed to capitalise on the growing interest of Super Heroes at the height of Avengers popularity. People saw the Avengers film, walked into a comics shop, saw Iron Man was evil, and then a black woman who was also evil. They then walked out. The MCU should've been the signal for a biblical resurection of comics. They were handed it on a platter and they chose social justice. We would not be having this conversation if Marvel simply made quality comics with familiar characters to loosely tie into the release of their films. DC did the same fucking thing and changed out their characters for new ones at the worst possible time to do it.

Eh, I think the current (or is it now a thing of the past?) business model was unsustainable in the long-term, but I do kind of agree if they'd gone the route of somehow letting the dog (movies) wag the tail (floppies) there's a chance things could have limped along for a while longer, possibly even through the shut down current mess.

But, nah, I truly do not think paper books distributed via Diamond to your LCS was gonna be thing by 2030 no matter what books were printed or even if the current situation hadn't arisen. The one thing the SJWs seem to get that CG does not is that the audience for books is aging and shrinking. Granted the curious tactics they've been utilizing to try to expand this audience have done nothing but alienate current readers while NOT bringing in much, if any, new business...wish I wasn't so hung over. Maybe I'll edit this later and try to make something coherent out of it.

 

[CheezzyMach]

Eh, I think the current (or is it now a thing of the past?) business model was unsustainable in the long-term, but I do kind of agree if they'd gone the route of somehow letting the dog (movies) wag the tail (floppies) there's a chance things could have limped along for a while longer, possibly even through the shut down current mess.

But, nah, I truly do not think paper books distributed via Diamond to your LCS was gonna be thing by 2030 no matter what books were printed or even if the current situation hadn't arisen. The one thing the SJWs seem to get that CG does not is that the audience for books is aging and shrinking. Granted the curious tactics they've been utilizing to try to expand this audience have done nothing but alienate current readers while NOT bringing in much, if any, new business...wish I wasn't so hung over. Maybe I'll edit this later and try to make something coherent out of it.

Me and King of Nothing have been harping they need to get these books back into mass retail again for a reason.

Specialty shops like Comic book stores are a dying breed thanks to Amazon.

Weird thing though is book stores seem to be thriving since the majority of comic sales come from them.

 

[Garm]

It's amazing how they have time to worry about twitter fights when the companies are saying "Stop working because we can't reliably pay you right now" Holy shit guys, pick your battles. LCS' that have been around for YEARS are closing permanently because they can't even handle two weeks of this lockdown. Some of you will definitely not have jobs in the industry when this is over.

Oh I don't disagree, I just feel bad for the mom and pop shops who want to sell Batman books without drama and call it a day. Everyone else can absolutely get fucked. They made this bed and can lie in it.


Everything is getting shutdown because of corona. Even the printers are closed for now.

Let them fight out the battles on Twitter. It is all they know. It won't save them. None of these people could prop up Marvel even if they wished to.

They are powerless to prevent this and all they can do is scream into the void.

Who would have thought that Corona-Chan would've been the one to drive the knife into the comics industry?
That it was already this fragile?

"Enemies strengthen. Allies weaken."

The second someone cuts out conflict and retreats into a hugbox is the second the rot sets in.

Conflict forces you to hone your arguments. Forces you to think. To consider different angles.

Hug boxes soften you. Don't challenge you. There is no one to warn you when the end approaches because you have banished them.

These people wrote weak books because no one forced them to improve. They were cocooned from criticism and now an industry burns because of it.

If you meant the industry was fragile monetarily, well, that's because our economy runs on debt. You can't shut down for a day because you need to be making so much product every day in order to keep up. A slip and everything spirals out of control.

 

[New Fag]

Not sure if anyone is interested but Martina is still making Lady Alchemy with a new creative team and what I think is a brand new plot, even claiming that the money already raised is enough to unfuck the mess and a delivery date of Aug2020.

Spoiler: IGG Update

 

[verissimus]

Not sure if anyone is interested but Martina is still making Lady Alchemy with a new creative team and what I think is a brand new plot, even claiming that the money already raised is enough to unfuck the mess and a delivery date of Aug2020.

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Spoiler: IGG Update

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I have a feeling either the money will dry up (assuming it hasn't already) or this will get delayed. We'll see in a few months.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Remind ex/anti/OG Comicsgate why they signed up in the first place.

When they signed up there wasn't a gayop group that ethan endorses or knew how of a jilted ex he was.

even claiming that the money already raised is enough to unfuck the mess and a delivery date of Aug2020.

I wonder who she had to sleep with to unfuck all the drama her book caused.

 

[TexOffender]

Peep yellowflash's vid on kibblesmith.

Shit explains a lot.