Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

DID is not rare. it is just as common as bulimia in young women. think about it, how many bulimic women do you know? likely not a lot but bulimia is still not rare. ontop of that, people with DID don't go around telling people they have DID unless they're public advocates or something. the only people i've ever told are family and romantic partners. or if i was explicitly outed by one of my alters and owed that person an explanation. even then i don't feel good about people knowing. my point is, you could know a DID system and never know it. it seems rare because so few people outwardly talk about it.
On a final note to u bc u refuse to stop posting
DID is extremely rare and its extremely hard to diagnose for that reason and for the reason that a plethora of other mental illnesses can mimic it and it may not exist to begin with
Which makes it funny that the absolute majority of the people who have been "medically professionally diagnosed with DID" are all limited to the community of 13 year old emos on tumblr who kin tearzah ocs
 
That doesn't make any sense. If an alter knows about the trauma but they don't know they are in a system (because they shouldn't) how would they know not to say something to someone? Wouldn't they also need therapy for it? Are they treated like other patients? Do you regularly miss work and appointments and school because you switch? If you don't how can multiple people have the same job and all remember and all want that job and not get pissy and quit one day? How do you coordinate life events and plans with each other?

there's no standard reason why alters wouldn't know about each other. DID varies greatly person to person but alters typically know of each other or know most of everyone in the system. alters know what not to expose the host to and what to erase because alters are formed with specific roles. if an alter is a gatekeeper, like Alex, they manage memories. it's their role in the system. everyone in the system has a different role which keeps the host functioning when they all work together. for lack of better phrase, these roles are essentially programed into the alter and they even affect personal traits. a physical protector alter might look built and tall and have an intimidating russian accent.

alters can often recall and discuss trauma out of ear shot from the host but keeping it secret makes it hard for that alter to talk about during therapy because while they are out in the body, the memories are blocked. they can at best talk about how they feel and how to manage those feelings. not every alter has to have therapy because not everyone is directly impacted by the trauma or even have anything to do with it. their role could be centered around something else like keeping up the body's health and hygiene if the host is neglecting it.

yes, in my experience, my therapists are not solely mine but also work through the individual problems of alters, whoever is out during therapy that day. often times session are shared. if an alter shows up, it's fair practice to give them the floor. while the alters assist with host's problems and keeps the host functioning, they also have their own lives and their own problems. alters can have anxiety, depression, dysphoria, trouble with sexuality, any problem under the sun because they are people with complex thoughts and emotions just like everyone else.

if an appointment or something important is missed, it's either because the alter didn't know, forgot, or didn't care. alters typically know enough about the host's life to know the importance of scheduling or can be co-con with the host in which they can have a conversation and the information can be shared. alters can pop up at work and if they're not a total dick, they'll see the work day through in a discreet and productive manner. in exchange that alter gets free time later. but of course this depends of your communication with the system and how willing they are to compromise and share. some are more willing than others. the better you understand each other, the better you work together. if you don't compromise, you will just end up fighting and then nobody gets what they want.
 
CinnaSin, I must tell you, I have been lurking in this forum for months and only decided to make an account now just to tell you how much of a delusional, self centered annoyance you are. That’s how special you are. Quit making this thread about yourself for our reading pleasure and sanity. And by the way...

DID is not rare. it is just as common as bulimia in young women. think about it, how many bulimic women do you know?

Isn’t this is the EXACT same argument that Chloe uses? Are you just repeating what your almighty leader is saying or are we actually speaking to Chloe herself?

DissociaDON’T and gtfo
 
there's no standard reason why alters wouldn't know about each other. DID varies greatly person to person but alters typically know of each other or know most of everyone in the system. alters know what not to expose the host to and what to erase because alters are formed with specific roles. if an alter is a gatekeeper, like Alex, they manage memories. it's their role in the system. everyone in the system has a different role which keeps the host functioning when they all work together. for lack of better phrase, these roles are essentially programed into the alter and they even affect personal traits. a physical protector alter might look built and tall and have an intimidating russian accent.

alters can often recall and discuss trauma out of ear shot from the host but keeping it secret makes it hard for that alter to talk about during therapy because while they are out in the body, the memories are blocked. they can at best talk about how they feel and how to manage those feelings. not every alter has to have therapy because not everyone is directly impacted by the trauma or even have anything to do with it. their role could be centered around something else like keeping up the body's health and hygiene if the host is neglecting it.

yes, in my experience, my therapists are not solely mine but also work through the individual problems of alters, whoever is out during therapy that day. often times session are shared. if an alter shows up, it's fair practice to give them the floor. while the alters assist with host's problems and keeps the host functioning, they also have their own lives and their own problems. alters can have anxiety, depression, dysphoria, trouble with sexuality, any problem under the sun because they are people with complex thoughts and emotions just like everyone else.

if an appointment or something important is missed, it's either because the alter didn't know, forgot, or didn't care. alters typically know enough about the host's life to know the importance of scheduling or can be co-con with the host in which they can have a conversation and the information can be shared. alters can pop up at work and if they're not a total dick, they'll see the work day through in a discreet and productive manner. in exchange that alter gets free time later. but of course this depends of your communication with the system and how willing they are to compromise and share. some are more willing than others. the better you understand each other, the better you work together. if you don't compromise, you will just end up fighting and then nobody gets what they want.
Yeah this is you making up rules as you go along.

Get the fuck out. I say that for your own good before someone decides to Halal you.
 
DID is a differential diagnosis that psychs give when they basically give up on you/just give you the diagnosis you want to shut the hell up.

Just because it's currently in the DSM doesn't mean it's real. For God's sake the DSMV has a disorder now for fucking temper tantrums and lump regular grief in with major depressive disorders. And let's not forget how long homosexuality was in the stupid fucking thing. It's fucking rubbish and the vast majority of psychs know that.
 
She's privated her personal Instagram but this was on there tagged with CFS at one point. She poses with the right props when it suits her. I'd be willing to bet she'll pull the cane out again in the next few weeks now it's been pointed out that she dropped it.

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Oh fuck no bitch, get that knee brace off and drop the fucking cane and the zebra print.

Chloe: YOU DO NOT HAVE EDS. DONT EVEN FUCKING TRY TO GO THERE.
 
If the tumblrinas who claim to have DID did actually have DID, then why have I never heard of drama about an evil alter being a bigoted shitlord?

You caught me. I am actually Chloe's evil alter. I made this thread for further attention and funnily enough my name is Bigoted Shitlord.

I legitimately don't think she's a Munchie because she doesn't seek the medical attention. It more closely fits with Histrionic PD.

Absolutely. I think she has the potential to become a munchie the longer her PD goes untreated but for now it seems more likely that she's too nervous to push it that far and risk being called out by a medic she hasn't paid for a diagnosis.
 
I was going to comment on the post by Cinna about DID not being rare but its been deleted. Since she says we should look at the DSM-V to prove it exists I will quote what it says:
Prevalence has been put at maybe 1.6%, but the data is skewed because its too rare to get an accurate number.

Stop fucking sperging. You can get your opinions and concepts across without using yourself as an example.

I have to ask though, is feeding into more childish alters a healthy thing? Is it something to encourage in a clinical sense when in therapy? And by extention is it a good thing for her audience, especially those who claim to experience DID like hers, allows her to expose these child alters in the ways she does on her channel?
No you do not reinforce those behaviors. Just as when working with adults who have cognitive disabilities you attempt to make the behaviors be socially acceptable. The ones that go out with pacifiers and ADBL shit are most often fakers.

BTW, I shoud mention there are some therapists that get off on treating DID like its their own child. I have heard of therapists giving home phone numbers, texting, audio tapes, plushies, etc. so they have 24/7 access to the therapist and client. It's grooming and reinforcing behaviors that are insane to hear about.

Something that I’m trying to figure out is if the ‘systems’ model of DID wherein one alter is the protector, one is the host, one is the gatekeeper....Where do these alter roles come from? Are they substantiated by any research/case studies? The closest concept that I could relate them to are ‘ego-states’ but (like most Freudian concepts) they aren’t backed up by any hard science.

So these terms are not used in psychology all alters by nature are protective since the coping mechanism is one of protection. Remember though in psychology we do not treat them like seperate people.

Chloe claims to own a business right? Up to a certain point, self-employed people can recieve benefits. It depends on how much the business makes as to what she would be entitled to, and it's reasonably fickle. If it's proving not to be profitable however it usually means the owner must find gainful employment. I assume disability is an entirely different beast, just so long as it's for personal care and not disability for those who can't work at all.

I didn't find any sign of her on the Company's House LTD registry, so I'm assuming she's either put herself in as a sole trader or a partnership. That is, if she's registered. Maybe I'm thick but I don't think she's registered DissociaDID as a trademark which seems very unusual considering how public she is, especially if the company is registered.
You cannot get disability based on DID alone, it's known how many fake it and the dsm even speaks of it. It's the co-occuring symptoms that people get it based on such as PTSD.

Interestingly, you used to only be able to be diagnosed DID if you went to one institute the Colin Ross institute and other people diagnosing it were considered innacurate.

If anyone has an serious questions about DID, diagnosis, treating people (as i said i have only treated 2 because this is extremely rare) I would be glad to answer them. There is some research on DID but its all with the limitation that it requires self-disclosure and very small sample sizes.

Also if you hear someone say Complex PTSD run, its a self-diagnosis term the fake DID community came up with so that they could gain support when people would say DID is fake.
 
You caught me. I am actually Chloe's evil alter. I made this thread for further attention and funnily enough my name is Bigoted Shitlord.



Absolutely. I think she has the potential to become a munchie the longer her PD goes untreated but for now it seems more likely that she's too nervous to push it that far and risk being called out by a medic she hasn't paid for a diagnosis.
Oh man I want to see that arc. The slow descent into full munchiedom.
 
Also pertinent info about fakers from DSM-V:
Factitious disorder and malingering. Individuals who feign dissociative identity disorder do not report the subtle symptoms of intrusion characteristic of the disorder; instead they tend to overreport well-publicized symptoms of the disorder, such as dissociative amnesia, while underreporting less-publicized comorbid symptoms, such as depression. Individuals who feign dissociative identity disorder tend to be relatively undisturbed by or may even seem to enjoy "having" the disorder. In contrast, individuals with genuine dissociative identity disorder tend to be ashamed of and overwhelmed by their symptoms and to underreport their symptoms or deny their condition. Sequential observation, corroborating history, and intensive psychometric and psychological assessment may be helpful in assessment.

Individuals who malinger dissociative identity disorder usually create limited, stereotyped alternate identities, with feigned amnesia, related to the events for which gain is sought. For example, they may present an "all-good" identity and an "all-bad" identity in hopes of gaining exculpation for a crime
 
Oh man I want to see that arc. The slow descent into full munchiedom.

I think it's on the horizon. The longer she spends around Nan and her vaguely weak immune system the more likely it becomes. Nan is a known malingerer. In her most recent video with Clifford The Alcoholic Construction Worker she claimed that her body was already so damaged from alcohol consumption which is fairly unspecific.

It's hard to tell who is leading who in this situation. Nan and Chloe both split at the same time, on the same day, triggered by the same events despite having different traumas. They both have vague physical illnesses that are briefly mentioned and glossed over for sympathy points or photo ops. Both are prime candidates as early stage munchies. The more they encourage each other the worse it'll become and with WuFlu making health anxiety a trending topic it truly is only a matter of time.
 
I think it's on the horizon. The longer she spends around Nan and her vaguely weak immune system the more likely it becomes. Nan is a known malingerer. In her most recent video with Clifford The Alcoholic Construction Worker she claimed that her body was already so damaged from alcohol consumption which is fairly unspecific.

It's hard to tell who is leading who in this situation. Nan and Chloe both split at the same time, on the same day, triggered by the same events despite having different traumas. They both have vague physical illnesses that are briefly mentioned and glossed over for sympathy points or photo ops. Both are prime candidates as early stage munchies. The more they encourage each other the worse it'll become and with WuFlu making health anxiety a trending topic it truly is only a matter of time.
I want to see the final stage, with the unnecessary feeding tubes and IVs
 
Hello OP and everyone! I have just spent a very eye-opening afternoon reading the thread and the posts. I have been following this YouTuber for a few months and have suspected absolutely everything that has been discussed in the thread. I completely agree that the way the community frames the media they create as "educational" and "destigmatizing" is a tool to block or curb suspicion of any kind. If you are questioning, you are just contributing to the stigma that allegedly exists, right? I also think its fucked up that any time someone calls a member of the community out for being inconsistent or for not following through with a promise (such as being transparent about where Patreon money goes), that member may claim that the stress of such an event has caused them to "split" or become suicidal. To me it looks like a group of people personifying fan fiction about themselves and then engaging in role-plays or cosplay to act out these stories. It also looks like a group of people who are part of a trauma olympics. They are constantly bouncing off of one another supposed "trauma" such as the Trisha Paytas thing currently going on. Like everyone in the community is claiming to have "split" from watching the videos or from reading various Twitter comments. I am happy to have read this thread as it makes me feel like less of an asshole for questioning the claims this community is making (which is the way they want you to feel for questioning them).
 
Yeah, I think the way this Cinna person and Chloe describe the disorder is way too fucking convenient.

Alters are full-fledged characters with physical appearances, careers and backstories, so you can get some super woke pee oh sees or alters with the most fetishized mental issues imaginable (alcoholism, anorexia etc.)

All your traumas and worst memories are forever locked behind amnesia walls, so don't worry about that, you'll never have to deal with your emotional baggage!

Amnesia walls are only up when it's convenient though, so literally all you need is ~good communication~ and a ~good relationship~ with your alters and they'll let you be co-conscious so that you'll never have to worry about waking up somewhere not knowing what happened, missing appointments, missing work etc.

Alters are also 100% good all the time and would never do anything against your will, even if they themselves hate it.

Plus, you get a super cool hubworld in your brain where all your diverse and quirky characters can hang out while they're not fronting.

Speaking of alters, every time something mildly upsetting happens, you get a new free imaginary friend. Which also means that you'll never have to deal with anything you don't like, just make your imaginary friend do it or become a 6 year-old fae princess for a while and draw some pictures. Don't worry if they're not woke enough, you can always merge them later.

I mean, does this supposedly debilitating disorder have any downsides?
 
Can I also mention that claiming your Alter has a different race is totally weird. It reminds me of Rachel Dolezal, the trans-racial white woman. I am not familiar with how the rules here work, as I am reading them, and I don't want to "power level" here, but I am a person of colour, and I find it weird that someone would claim that a fragment of their psyche could be any other race. How can you claim to know what it's like to walk this earth in a different skin colour? How does that even or work? Or age. A balding anorexic Asian man. Wtf? It just makes me think more of this disorder as a personified fan fiction novel about ones self that is acted our IRL. Also I'm just referring back to the original thread and I've noticed the first two videos used as evidence on the thread are already deleted from her channel, either that or the link is broken. Weird??
 
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