Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[DidYouJustSayThat]

Some heroes do not wear capes - 86 old woman knocked down by a good Samaritan for getting too close and violating the social distancing rules, dies.

NYC woman, 86, dies after coronavirus-related assault: sources - New …

archived 31 Mar 2020 15:54:25 UTC

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Brooklyn woman, 86, dies after she’s knocked to the ground by stranger for violating coronavirus social distancing: police sources

Victim Janie Marshall, 86, died less than four hours after the tense confrontation with 32-year-old Cassandra Lundy in Woodhull Hospital, cops said.

www.nydailynews.com

Spoiler: Headline - woman getting too close knocked down by hero

Brooklyn woman, 86, dies after she’s knocked to the ground by stranger for violating coronavirus social distancing
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[simulated goat]

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Charlie Kirk has a ton of dumb takes in general but this is especially stupid. And I'm speaking from the perspective of a Catholic, an actual person of faith, btw.

• It sucks that people can't go to church, but it's just not safe. I feel like God would very much understand the present circumstances and wouldn't want people recklessly endangering themselves in His name.
• There are already way too many dumbfucks, especially megachurches, who are making Christians look bad and recklessly endangering their parishes by flaunting social distancing rules. Nobody should be having large gatherings now, churches are not exempt from this rule. Faith will not protect you from a virus.
• Lmfao at this dude thinking that we can do "socially distanced" Easter. Has he ever been to an Easter service? That's when all of the twice a year Christians come out of the woodwork and the churches get fucking packed. At my church (which is pretty large) there are several Easter services spaced an hour apart and we still have to use the school's gym as a makeshift church to fit everyone. And even then it's still jam-packed in both the main church and the gym. Social distancing is simply impossible, even for regular church services.
• I know some places are offering streaming of church services, which while it isn't as effective as the real deal is still a good solution. Obviously there are parts you miss out on (like the Eucharist in Catholic Mass) but it's still worth it. Also, I heard that my pastor is doing one-on-one meetings with people who want Reconciliation or other sacraments. I'm sure other priests and pastors are offering their own services on a one-on-one basis too.
• Also I'd love to see a potential lolsuit go to court. What makes him think churches are exempt from social distancing orders?

These people are terminally stupid and should read up on how churches very pragmatically dealt with the black death. One could argue that protestantism was born from the charismatics who defied the plague order to go and dance, speak in tongues and be pentinent in the streets. Some went from town to town, spreading the word and the plague.

By their fruits and all that. Jesus has a sad.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Last day of the month and we hit 40,000 lost souls. Anyone remember what the death toll was at the start of the month?

 

[2021Murder]

Honestly, I'm no Cuomo fan, but he's handled this well, and the interviews between him and his brother are hilarious. They did one last night where Chris tried to imply that he was better because his mother gave him her sauce recipe and Andrew iceburned him by saying "well that's because you spent all your time in the kitchen hanging out with ma."

Its just typical new new Yorker bants. Trump would be saying the same shit if he was italian/close to his family

Last day of the month and we hit 40,000 lost souls. Anyone remember what the death toll was at the start of the month?

Less than 1000

 

[CeleryStalks]

USA

Curious how much your state and county is social distancing? How you compare with others? This massive location-tracking project company claims to have that data for the entire USA, and to rank locations based on how much movement has declined since the Wu-Flu hit. The nation as a whole has decreased mobility more than 40%. (archive)

Top 5
1: Washington DC
2: Nevada
3: Massachusetts
4: New Jersey
5: New York

Bottom 5
47: Hawaii
48: Iowa
49: Montana
50: Arkansas
51: Wyoming

The Social Distancing Scoreboard and other tools being developed for the Covid-19 Toolkit do not identify any individual person, device, or household. However to calculate the actual underlying social indexing score we combine tens of millions of anonymous mobile phones and their interactions with each other each day - and then extrapolate the results to the population level. As a company that originated in Norway we put privacy front and center and believe it to be an individual right, and since we operate on both sides of the Atlantic, we have been operating within the GDPR guidelines since May 2018 and this year also adopted the CCPA guidelines for the whole of the US (not only California).

Covid-19 Social Distancing Scoreboard — Unacast

Social distancing is seen as the most effective way of slowing the spread of the virus causing COVID-19, and is strongly advised by the World Health Organization and the CDC. At Unacast, we wanted to understand which areas of the country are best at exhibiting social distancing behavior. Our...

www.unacast.com

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I think a lot of people are in the denial or bargaining phase right now. The corporate globalists and their intersectional leftist puppets just got pantsed on open borders. The bumper sticker right can't seem to wrap their minds around the fact that free market bootstraps platitudes are meaningless in the face of a global pandemic/recession, and most people aren't stupid enough to sacrifice themselves or their loved ones for the sake of the stock market. The lolbertarians have some valid points about civil liberties, but we don't have any better options at the moment. In dangerous times reality makes ideology its bitch.

I think we've collectively reached a point where most things we considered to be sacred are gonna be either changed for good or will disappear.

For the right, they're realising most people value more their family than the market and they would accept the gov. to take control if there is a need for it.

For the libertarians, that the idea that people can govern themselves is an illusion and would never work IRL situations especially like this one. It's the idiots who won't listen the ones who're spreading the virus around and getting everybody sick.

The left will get the hardest hit, imo. Most people are realising that the situation we're in now is practically a (I hope so) temporary free-trial on socialism adn they can't wait to get off from it. And countries with an already socialism agenda are being shitted on constantly by their own people because they failed the most.

Progressivism is also getting faced with the reality: their issues were never important. Nobody's talking about 792093 genders anymore, or feminism, or anything.

The only ones who will be able to survive this without any permanent emotional scar are the ones who can adapt their minds to the situation without losing their own principles. And, of course, people won't forget the Right Winger who said "I'd rather die than hurt the market" or the Leftist who said "remove Trump from TV even in an emeregncy because I don't like him!".

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Didn't someone earlier in the thread point out that most people sick enough to need a ventilator will die?

Yeah, those numbers are believable. I remember one of the first papers coming out of China had a 97% (!) mortality rate for patients who required mechanical ventilation. Others were around 80%. The NHS is currently reporting a 66% mortality rate (the ICNARC study.)

So, yeah, it's questionable whether or not obsessing about ventilators is the best use of our resources right now.

 

[MrBlueSocks]

Some heroes do not wear capes - 86 old woman knocked down by a good Samaritan for getting too close and violating the social distancing rules, dies.

NYC woman, 86, dies after coronavirus-related assault: sources - New …

archived 31 Mar 2020 15:54:25 UTC

archive.vn

Brooklyn woman, 86, dies after she’s knocked to the ground by stranger for violating coronavirus social distancing: police sources

Victim Janie Marshall, 86, died less than four hours after the tense confrontation with 32-year-old Cassandra Lundy in Woodhull Hospital, cops said.

www.nydailynews.com

Spoiler: Headline - woman getting too close knocked down by hero

Brooklyn woman, 86, dies after she’s knocked to the ground by stranger for violating coronavirus social distancing
....

Man , some of the quotes in that article:

Spoiler: Article quotes, all you need to know

Victim Janie Marshall, 86, died less than four hours after the tense confrontation with 32-year-old Cassandra Lundy in Bedford-Stuyvesant’s Woodhull Hospital, cops said.
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Lundy, who lives in Bedford-Stuyvesant, has 17 prior arrests, on charges including drug possession, trespass, assault and strangulation, sources said.
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After letting Lundy go with a summons, the hospital didn’t contact the NYPD until almost five hours after Marshall died, sources said.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

CNN anchor Chris Cuomo diagnosed with coronavirus; he will continue working from home

CNN anchor Chris Cuomo said Tuesday that he has been diagnosed with Covid-19.

www.cnn.com

LOL

Oh no, that sucks.

 

[moocow]

Get ready for some drama surrounding this...

I'll laugh my ass off when lefties suddenly start taking Project Veritas seriously and get reminded by everyone how they called it fake/biased/unreliable when it was exposing liberal lunacy in leftist campaigns and news organizations.

 

[MechanicusAdmin]

Last day of the month and we hit 40,000 lost souls. Anyone remember what the death toll was at the start of the month?

I only have snapshots of the 28th of Feb:



And a week later on 7th of March

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I wonder how his brother Fredo, I mean Andrew feel about this?

I'm surprised 'Fredo' isn't filtered here. After all Fredo is basically the N word for Italian Americans according to Chris "Fredo" Cuomo (Archive).

 

[moocow]

Man , some of the quotes in that article:

Affirmative action in action, folks! We can safely assume what the attacker looks like given the complete lack of information concerning heritage and skin color and the distinct lack of a mugshot in every article I could find about this.

 

[MrBlueSocks]

Progressivism is also getting faced with the reality: their issues were never important. Nobody's talking about 792093 genders anymore, or feminism, or anything.

This is something that surprised me a bit.
I haven't been actively looking , but I've not seen any articles criticising the response teams for not being diverse enough.
The top medical advisors are very often "Pale, Male and Stale", and it's being accepted because deep down , when faced wth an actual crisis, people do understand that jobs should be filled on merit, not diversity quotas.
In normal times there's a constant background noise of insistence that forced diversity is more important than the core mission.

Spoiler: Off topic example

Top Marine says ‘immediate execution’ items include more gender integration, smarter grunts and changes to parental leave for adoptive, same-sex parents

These are the

www.marinecorpstimes.com

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As recently as last month , the Marine Corps commandant thought that forcing through female infantry officers and parental leave for gay parents was a higher priority than planning for action against China.

So, anyone seen any hot Vice/Buzzfeed/Slate takes to prove me wrong?

(Edit: couple of typos)

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Same. That or a plugin which inserts "As a diesel mechanic, I," at the beginning of his posts.

Here is some more reeeeee to cheer us up. Not that I would mind an EU kickout.

Compare and contrast with the complete lack of bitching about all the shit erdogan has plulled in the last 5 years.

Now, the funny part is, that's not the regular army, it's the Legión. They're our elite forces, and what this gal doesn't know is a few months ago they were put on weight loss and muscle gain programs because of how many of them were obese. Seems it paid off!

Completely OT, but were they actually obese or just had a yuuge BMI? I know a vertically challenged Green Beret that is technically obese, but has no body fat.

I apologize if I'm a late nigga with this, but holy crap...

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loc...-chinatown-amid-coronavirus-concerns/2241075/


"Everything is fine here."

-Nancy Pelosi February 25th, 2020

too bad you didn't archive that

 

[simulated goat]

Ok this is entering the conspiracy territory, but this is apparently the former Ceo of Vodafone ( ,Checked his voice on multiple videos and interviews he's done, it's very, very close to Nicholas Jonathan Read voice. )

speaking out about the coronavirus and 5G

YouTube

www.youtube.com

Spacebusters

Former Vodafone Boss Blows Whistle on 5G Coronavirus IoT Vaccine Digital World Currency (Mirror)

www.bitchute.com

For a comparison with France then :

5G coverage / towers

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Coronavirus map :

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I can't imagine any other correlation besides population centers and the paths between them that are well traveled. I know people who live under a 5g tower. So far no one there is puking their lungs out or dropping dead or anything. Now the owner of the property the tower is on also owns a gas station. And since this gas station and tower service a major freeway, randos come in all the time, they put up plexiglass to protect the clerks from the coof. Just a mile on down the road, there is a rest stop and weigh station, places where people share facilities. The locals have to use the station for food and drink because it's almost a half hour into a town so that shit gets everywhere. Those patterns show nothing but human movement.

Correlation is not causation and I really hope we don't pick up any 5g fanatics here, plenty on Zero Hedge and they're incredibly boring.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

This is the kind of article where you can believe it but it's still anecdotal.

No mention of demographics or co-morbidity factors. Who are the people going on ventilators at that hospital, what else are they dealing with when they go on the ventilator?

From the description, only the worst cases are being incubated, they are sending people home with oxygen for symptoms that would normally get the full monty. The doctor has worked out a set of conditions for how to determine the people who need it most. That kind of selection would naturally lead to high mortality rates.

It's definitely the worst cases that get intubated. And the more you think of it, the more you can understand the high mortality rate. You've got patients who were mostly very old, or very sick, or both before they got coronavirus. Then they had the worst case hit from that which meant they got pneumonia which is pretty deadly for old/sick people. Then pneumonia got so bad they were knocked out and intubated. The poor bastards have rolled the dice multiple times and each time came up snake eyes.

Yeah, those numbers are believable. I remember one of the first papers coming out of China had a 97% (!) mortality rate for patients who required mechanical ventilation. Others were around 80%. The NHS is currently reporting a 66% mortality rate (the ICNARC study.)

I found this paper in The Lancet, a very well respected British medical journal

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30110-7/fulltext

https://archive.vn/Zuj5M

As of Feb 27, 2020, coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has affected 47 countries and territories around the world.1 Xiaobo Yang and colleagues2 described 52 of 710 patients with confirmed COVID-19 admitted to an intensive care unit (ICU) in Wuhan, China. 29 (56%) of 52 patients were given non-invasive ventilation at ICU admission, of whom 22 (76%) required further orotracheal intubation and invasive mechanical ventilation. The ICU mortality rate among those who required non-invasive ventilation was 23 (79%) of 29 and among those who required invasive mechanical ventilation was 19 (86%) of 22

So it's 79% for non-invasive and 86% for invasive.

I also found this article on ICU mortality

Coronavirus: new figures on intensive care deaths revealed

Findings of new report raise concerns about how effective new facilities will be

www.theguardian.com

Covid-19 patients in UK intensive care have 50% survival rate | Socie…

archived 28 Mar 2020 18:45:53 UTC

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Data from the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre (ICNARC) showed that of 165 patients treated in critical care in England, Wales and Northern Ireland since the end of February, 79 died, while 86 survived and were discharged. The figures were taken from an audit of 775 people who have been or are in critical care with the disease, across 285 intensive care units. The remaining 610 patients continue to receive intensive care.

While early data may not be indicative of the outcome for all patients, the potentially high death rate raises questions about how effective critical care will be in saving the lives of people struck down by the disease. As a top priority, the NHS is opening field hospitals in London, Birmingham and Manchester, which will incorporate some of the biggest critical care units ever seen in Britain.

“The truth is that quite a lot of these individuals [in critical care] are going to die anyway and there is a fear that we are just ventilating them for the sake of it, for the sake of doing something for them, even though it won’t be effective. That’s a worry,” one doctor said.

Grim stuff. Ventilators are the best option available but even with them many patients will die. And then there's this

The report also found that though the majority of those who have died from coronavirus across the UK were over 70, nine of the 79 who died in intensive care were aged between 16 and 49, as were 28 of the 86 who survived.

The audit suggested that men are at much higher risk from the virus – seven in ten of all ICU patients were male, while 30% of men in critical care were under 60, compared to just 15% of women. Excess weight also appears to be a significant risk factor; over 70% of patients were overweight, obese or clinically obese on the body mass index scale.

Generally speaking being fat, old, and male is not a good combination. It's even worse if you get corona.

And look at the UK's 'case outcomes'

United Kingdom Coronavirus: 114,217 Cases and 15,464 Deaths - Worldometer

United Kingdom Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

https://archive.vn/JsnrJ

There's a 91.25% fatality rate right now.

 

[RodgerDodger]

thats why alot of countries report cases look linear instead of geometric. so we dont know the real curve or if we ve flattened it.

One other thing regarding “flattening the curve”. In the US and most of Europe we are only 15 days into the “shelter at home” rules. The disease has up to a 14 day+ incubation/asymptomatic period. So cases popping Up now we’re likely transmitted before Social Distancing began. We would not see any flattening yet.

 

[verissimus]

Oh no, that sucks.

Get ready for CNN to crank up the anti-Trump vitriol to 11.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

This really is another 9/11-scale event.

At least 9/11 was over quicker and didn't result in this insane level of shutdown and "social distancing." This seems endless.