Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[Gramh]

The fervor of this community and it's orbiters is strikingly similar to furries/fictionkin/otherkin/soulbonders. A need to feel complicated and magical to make up for unexceptional personalities otherwise. Maybe it's the shift from hobbies and skills being learned as a manner of passing time and becoming integrated into society to social/other media that the newer generations are struggling to find an identity?

 

[DissociaDONT]

Never thought I'd feel the urge to make a Kiwi Farms account, but here I am. Been lurking for a while. I've posted some things to snow and guru that I've seen reposted here. Seeing as this seems to be for the central hub for this stuff, I might as well migrate on over like all the other cool kids are doing.

So, a few things I've found that AFAIK haven't been touched on here:

Toi Magazine and EntitleDID to Life

The coming DID con Chloe, Nan, and several other DID influencers are going to be speaking at and have been advertising on their respective channels is sponsered by Toi Magazine. Formerly the Boutique of Toi, retailer of hideous third part lingerie marked way, way up. Given their continued shilling of widely panned online "therapy service" Better Help, this seems pretty on-brand for these guys.

Toi has recently started trying the whole mental health advocacy thing in a bid to make money. You can peruse their body of work here. Second from the bottom is an issue featuring articles from both Chloe and Nan. (Apparently Chloe considers herself an entrepreneur.) The woman who runs it has, apparently, tried to start up at least one unrelated, Christ-based venture in the past.

Fun, unrelated fact: If you go to Toi's official Twitter and take a peek at their likes, they seem to be a fan of a Christian spin on the law of attraction and possibly a flat-earther.

They've sent DID influencers packages for giveaways filled with just... some of the worst stuff. My favorite is this one, (A+ thumbnail promising dissociating on camera.) where Chloe struggles to recommend And the Angel Rocked Me, a (Totally real and not ghostwritten piece of fiction) memoire by Casey Jones, esteemed author of such bestsellers as Kicking Up the Dust: A Bad Boy Billionaire Romance and Marissa's Erotic Adventure (Part 1)

Anyway, the con sounds real on the level, so if you wanna go you can buy tickets for $140 (or tickets to watch online for $25) No $320 VIP tickets left, though. Sorry, guys. All sold out.

Tangentially, I love Chloe's PR skills when dealing with folks. Insulting your target audience is the gold standard for mental health advocates.

I've got some more stuff to share, but this took me so much longer than expected. I'll dump the rest later, assuming a wall of unarchived links is acceptable.

 

[comrade666]

The woman who runs it has, apparently, tried to start up at least one unrelated, Christ-based venture in the past.

My favourite kind of venture.

Assuming people are white because of appearance is horrendous. And Chloe is, as we all know, a certified nigger.

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Shout out to some former associate of Chloe's over at Guru Gossiper for the names James Darby and Hatti Kippax allegedly two of Chloe's former partners and candidates for the traumatic abuser. Kennedy Hanson can finally relax now he's not the sole contender.

EDITED TO ADD
Hatti was posting with Chloe in September 2015.
James lasted posted with her in January 2016.

 

[6thRanger]

With all the talks of inner worlds and creating OCs, I think it's worthwhile to highlight a recent portrayal of this in Doom Patrol. There is a character called Jane who suffers from DID. They have adventures in her "inner world". The following clip takes place after an alter effectively "hijacks" the system and fronts for an extremely extended period going against the wishes of most in the system. She's "disciplined" by the chief protective alter.

Content like this, the recently very popular Mr. Robot (although even he has only 3 alters), the aforementioned United States of Tara all provide ideas regarding the LARPing, malingering and flat out lying they engage in. I would bet many in the "community" have consumed all of this media. The parts within them form the basis of what they portray as the truth about their lives.

What's insane is that watching them, almost all of these characters suffer from substantial negative drawbacks, but people like Chloe don't report them. People like Chloe take from these shows, other fiction and the ramblings of others in the "community" and sanitize it.

Isn't it wonderful to have such a rare, special, "hard" mental illness, that allows you to change who you are at will, attempt to avoid responsibility and perhaps most importantly, get sympathy points and sympathy bucks from tweens and idiots online?

 

[DissociaDONT]

First video series criticizing Chloe that I've seen. I skipped part one because it seems to be a lot of talking into the camera, but the second part pleases me.

Also, according to someone over on guru:

Someone tell kiwifarms that the name of the person she was with in 2015-2016 is called James Darby
Before that she was with Hatti Kippax

Don't know where that information comes from. The only person I can see who might fit the bill is this guy, though I don't see anything that could be alluding to her. Granted, I didn't look too hard. I'm not super invested in debunking or validating any claims of sexual assault. I'm more interested in whatever repeated childhood trauma kicked off the DID. To listen to Chloe talk about it, she can't remember any childhood trauma and just assumes that she must have some because that's how DID works.

 

[comrade666]

I'm more interested in whatever repeated childhood trauma kicked off the DID. To listen to Chloe talk about it, she can't remember any childhood trauma and just assumes that she must have some because that's how DID works.

That's what interests me. She talks about her trauma often and just as often hints that it was sexual in nature. On one occasion she has explicitly said her trauma is sexual trauma. In 2013 she denied ever having been sexually assaulted. If she was sexually assaulted after 2013 that wouldn't explain her DID. In this video Kyle states that he has 'been around' for 17 years meaning her trauma would have occurred around age 5. But again, she didn't live in a war zone and she came from what looks like a stable home in an affluent area with largely supportive parents.

I just don't believe her. If she is lying about sexual abuse, which seems likely, then that deserves to be examined. She definitely doesn't remember her trauma and she's said as much. I'll come back and link that video later, can't remember the name off the top of my head. But she insists that the trauma must be repeated to cause DID. I find it interesting that she's started stressing the point that trauma does not have to be abuse in her most recent video. It doesn't, but she just isn't a candidate for repeated and sustained childhood trauma based on her background.

 

[sadstuck]

If she doesn't have any real trauma, then why doesn't she become an endogenic (tumblr term for hypothetical healthy systems formed without trauma) advocate instead? Nah, that won't get her as many asspats. Quite the opposite, actually.

 

[6thRanger]

That's what interests me. She talks about her trauma often and just as often hints that it was sexual in nature. On one occasion she has explicitly said her trauma is sexual trauma. In 2013 she denied ever having been sexually assaulted. If she was sexually assaulted after 2013 that wouldn't explain her DID. In this video Kyle states that he has 'been around' for 17 years meaning her trauma would have occurred around age 5. But again, she didn't live in a war zone and she came from what looks like a stable home in an affluent area with largely supportive parents.

I just don't believe her. If she is lying about sexual abuse, which seems likely, then that deserves to be examined. She definitely doesn't remember her trauma and she's said as much. I'll come back and link that video later, can't remember the name off the top of my head. But she insists that the trauma must be repeated to cause DID. I find it interesting that she's started stressing the point that trauma does not have to be abuse in her most recent video. It doesn't, but she just isn't a candidate for repeated and sustained childhood trauma based on her background.

B-b-b-but, the amnesia walls! You see, she was sexually assaulted but didn't know she was sexually assaulted until after 2013 when she reintegrated with an alter who knew. She still doesn't know the details of it because the alter who really knows is shielding her bro. Makes 100% sense.

Honestly, this bullshit is structured to allow for consistent copouts and selectively disregarding past statements. That's why girls with Lolcow tendencies love it so much. There's always some dumb explanation within the confines of their made up terminology and loose statements. It's so goddamn stupid and tiresome.

The only way is to continuously force these bullshit statements out of them and hope the fans who have a few braincells left start going "hmm". Most of them are so deep in that absolute dogshit like the explanation I posted will be enough for them.

 

[Ryanstartedthefire]

If she doesn't have any real trauma, then why doesn't she become an endogenic (tumblr term for hypothetical healthy systems formed without trauma) advocate instead? Nah, that won't get her as many asspats. Quite the opposite, actually.

Because at the end of the day, Chloe is nothing more than a basic, everyday, munchie. She thrives off sympathy and attention. At best, she has a personality disorder, and that's not enough to garner the amount of sympathy she needs. nor will it give her enough precious internet views to finance her lifestyle and she would have to get a real job.

 

[comrade666]

If she doesn't have any real trauma, then why doesn't she become an endogenic (tumblr term for hypothetical healthy systems formed without trauma) advocate instead? Nah, that won't get her as many asspats. Quite the opposite, actually.

Without trauma a Trisha Paytas video is just slightly grating. With her trauma a Trisha Paytas video is a significant event that causes her poor fractured mind to shatter once more. Trauma also gives her a free pass to accuse anyone who questions her of being her abuser as seen in her most recent Twitter thread calling out the farms.

B-b-b-but, the amnesia walls! You see, she was sexually assaulted but didn't know she was sexually assaulted until after 2013 when she reintegrated with an alter who knew. She still doesn't know the details of it because the alter who really knows is shielding her bro. Makes 100% sense.

Honestly, this bullshit is structured to allow for consistent copouts and selectively disregarding past statements. That's why girls with Lolcow tendencies love it so much. There's always some dumb explanation within the confines of their made up terminology and loose statements. It's so goddamn stupid and tiresome.

The only way is to continuously force these bullshit statements out of them and hope the fans who have a few braincells left start going "hmm". Most of them are so deep in that absolute dogshit like the explanation I posted will be enough for them.

But in this video she claims that her amnesiac barriers sometimes fail. She could at least keep her bullshit consistent. None of them will question a thing. All of the comments under her videos or posts are just blind support or adoration of her latest cool black queer quadruple amputee alter.

 

[DissociaDONT]

So a few more odds and ends. This time regarding some Nan highlights:

--- As we all know already, she identifies as 23. Don't worry though, y'all. She's valid. It's a did thing.

--- I know the creepy fetish blog has been linked. And I've mentioned this elsewhere without anyone commenting on it, so maybe I'm the only one who finds this shit especially creepy but:
She draws NSFW fetish material of her friend's OCs without their permission.
She draws fetish material of her BROTHER'S characters.
She draws NSFW FETISH ART OF HER BROTHER'S OCS AND, I CAN ONLY ASSUME HAS SHOWN IT TO HIM.

--- "You know what would be cool? I'm gonna pretend to be a cat." This might be my least favorite video on the entire internet. Underage furry alters are valid and deserving of having their fiance pet them while they knead the furniture.

 

[comrade666]

She draws fetish material of her BROTHER'S characters.

Bizarrely, she has an alter based on her brother too. She has an odd obsession with Chris who just seems to enable her.
I'll archive all of this. I've got all of Chloe's videos but I need to start finding these gems on Nan's channel. I've got some of her most popular or spergy but her voice is so fucking annoying it's hard to dig through.

 

[DissociaDONT]

Bizarrely, she has an alter based on her brother too. She has an odd obsession with Chris who just seems to enable her.

What few videos I've seen featuring him, he's looked incredibly uncomfortable to me.

Also, on the topic of Nan: I know I've seen screenshots of the reddit posts on here. From what I can piece together, spharker on Reddit is her ex, Sam. He did something she considered a sexual assault, resulting in her becoming homeless and Ace being kindnapped and chained in a basement in the inner world. I'm not sure if people have gone through the dude's comment history aside from his initial wall of damning text, but he's made other posts I can only assume are alluding to Nan.

According to the world's worst podcast Sanitea, Nan has various addictions and has been diagnosed BPD. Coincidentally, BPD is often misdiagnosed as DID.

 

[comrade666]

What few videos I've seen featuring him, he's looked incredibly uncomfortable to me.

Also, on the topic of Nan: I know I've seen screenshots of the reddit posts on here. From what I can piece together, spharker on Reddit is her ex, Sam. He did something she considered a sexual assault, resulting in her becoming homeless and Ace being kindnapped and chained in a basement in the inner world. I'm not sure if people have gone through the dude's comment history aside from his initial wall of damning text, but he's made other posts I can only assume are alluding to Nan.

According to the world's worst podcast Sanitea, Nan has various addictions and has been diagnosed BPD. Coincidentally, BPD is often misdiagnosed as DID.

I covered his Reddit comments that directly acknowledge Nan in the OP but I hadn't bothered to go through the rest of his posts so that's interesting to see. I found the comment where he talked about her temper tantrum in the emergency room absolute gold though. Glad I archived that as it seems to have been removed. I need to see if I can update the OP or just collect everything in an update comment.

I try to explain to the doctor why the behavior is so erratic by saying they have DID (also really not cool). "I'm just being dramatic!" they scream on the floor and the doctor says "I can see that."

 

[GenociderSyo]

Hard disagree. It's not in the DSM, but it IS in the ICD-11, and will likely make it into the DSM-VI, and has been studied as a separate disorder for three decades (the research for which started at Harvard) to account for Cluster B symptoms experienced by PTSD patients who sustained longterm sexual, physical, and/or mental abuse.

The DID fanfiction community did not come up with C-PTSD, a Distinguished Fellow of the APA did in the 80's. The malingerers like to hijack other diagnoses as well, so let's not throw out the lot of trauma-based disorders with them.

I apologize then for being misinformed. I don't use the ICD-11 where I'm at. Good thing I have time on my hands to get up to date on it!
I'm guessing then the articles about hypothalmus and amigydala differences in sustained long term severe abuse are related to it then.

 

[BScaller!]

In the switching 9 times video when she switches into a child the camera angle shifts down, when she "switches" back she flips the camera back up..so did the child flip the camera down? It's not an edit, she physically moves the camera. The child Alter would've had to do that, no way around it!!! I call BS

 

[Redhairedgothgirl]

This Rainman tier acting. So fake. This is stuff kids did at 10-11 but these are grown adults playing pretend personalities of their RP characters. Just wild.




>as common as red hair

No it isn't. If DID was a legit mental illness as common as RED HAIR you'd have far more people walking around switching alters all the time and some actual societal drawbacks to such a common issue. This is such a BS illness that draws the biggest attention whores to claim it which should tell you all you need about its status as a debatable mental illness. Schizophrenia isn't as fun to claim because that has discernable and obvious symptoms from the outset that can be treated with correct medication. But DID? Vague and dramatic enough that anyone can get away at playing it.

As a ginger I wish she would leave us out of this, we already get enough shit

 

[heterotic]

I find it interesting that she stressed in her most recent video that trauma must be repeated but does not have to be abuse. She said that right after someone dug up her 2013 Tumblr post where she said she had never been sexually assaulted. But in the video you've linked she says she has sexual trauma.

Trauma doesn't have to be abuse, but it has to be deeply distressing and sustained over a long period of time (like living in a war zone, being homeless, or extreme parental neglect), but we know that these things weren't the case with her. According to this post, Chloe lives with her mom in a very nice house and travels on her own to places like Paris. Along with the Tumblr post you shared, this feels like the most damning evidence that she is malingering and roleplaying a single-player fantasy game in her head.

I think she's referring to one of her suicide attempts as being the trauma in the forest - that marries up with her 'meet Omega' video where she says that she attempted suicide in a forest and that's when Omega formed as she was dying and now Omega lives in a forest. I'd take a guess that she tried to hang herself from a tree branch because she also says something about how Omega hovers above the ground just like she was hovering over the ground during the traumatic event/suicide attempt that caused Omega to form. It's very sad if she did indeed try to hang herself from a tree but I'm still not buying into the DID and a fucking ghost alter forming from it. What someone said earlier that she's probably convinced herself she has DID and really believes her own lies at this point, I could probably believe.

That makes sense. I mean, at least her fantasies are congruent.

My favourite kind of venture.

Assuming people are white because of appearance is horrendous. And Chloe is, as we all know, a certified nigga.
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She has really turned a 180 from being understanding that she was being offensive by saying she isn't just white to sticking back to again that she has been marginalized because she's also Native American. I guess the latter fits better with her being believable and further malingering.

I apologize then for being misinformed. I don't use the ICD-11 where I'm at. Good thing I have time on my hands to get up to date on it!
I'm guessing then the articles about hypothalmus and amigydala differences in sustained long term severe abuse are related to it then.

No worries, this paper may be helpful with deeper information.

 

[Cooking Mama]

So a few more odds and ends. This time regarding some Nan highlights:

--- As we all know already, she identifies as 23. Don't worry though, y'all. She's valid. It's a did thing.

--- I know the creepy fetish blog has been linked. And I've mentioned this elsewhere without anyone commenting on it, so maybe I'm the only one who finds this shit especially creepy but:
She draws NSFW fetish material of her friend's OCs without their permission.
She draws fetish material of her BROTHER'S characters.
She draws NSFW FETISH ART OF HER BROTHER'S OCS AND, I CAN ONLY ASSUME HAS SHOWN IT TO HIM.

--- "You know what would be cool? I'm gonna pretend to be a cat." This might be my least favorite video on the entire internet. Underage furry alters are valid and deserving of having their fiance pet them while they knead the furniture.

God, I hate this and I hate my morbid curiosity for continuing to make me click on these damn links.

Bizarrely, she has an alter based on her brother too. She has an odd obsession with Chris who just seems to enable her.

Because that’s not creepy. If I was their brother, I would be terrified. I don’t buy into this “introject” Norman Bates bullshit. Just say you’re LARPing and move on.



This should be fun. Isn’t changing your handwriting one of the hardest things you can do? There are always certain tells that a particular person wrote it. I wonder if that applies to drawing as well? I know when I try to do different drawing styles, there are always certain “traits” to my art that make it obvious it’s my art that I don’t do consciously.

 

[Clarice Starling]

She talks about her trauma often and just as often hints that it was sexual in nature. On one occasion she has explicitly said her trauma is sexual trauma. In 2013 she denied ever having been sexually assaulted.

After seeing she referred to her suicide attempt as a trauma as well, I realised the sexual trauma she’s talking about likely didn’t happen when she was a child. It probably happened after 2013 when she denied it, unless she has still claimed she hasn’t been sexually abused since then.

I got the impression that it was someone she was in a relationship with who wanted sex and just went for it without asking, but that could be way off. Seems like it was one of those “I didn’t say no but I didn’t say yes either” situations based off of her vague description, and that doesn’t sound like she was a child under the age of 7 to me.

The trauma that caused her DID is probably something else, if she’s even got her story straight in her head. Like you said, I wouldn’t be surprised if she claimed she doesn’t actually know or remember anything about it, but because it has to happen for DID to form, she just assumed. There must be a reason why she is open about her other traumas, but the most relevant one is a secret.