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Agreement is finally in Number 10's grasp.

The text that's taken months of officials' blood, sweat and tears has been agreed, at least at a technical level.

Now a paper's being drafted to present to the Cabinet tomorrow ready for the government's hoped-for next step - political approval from Theresa May's team, even though many of them have deep reservations.

Remember in the last 24 hours some of them have been warning privately that what's on the table is just not acceptable, and will never get through Parliament. Some even believe the prime minister ought to walk away.

But the government machine is now cranking into action. With a text ready, their long-planned rollout can begin.
The BBC's chief political correspondent Vicki Young said some ministers had "deep concerns" about the shape of the likely agreement, which critics say could leave the UK trapped in a customs agreement with the EU.

She said they would have to decide whether they could support it, and if not, whether to resign from cabinet.

Leading Brexiteers have already condemned the draft agreement, Boris Johnson saying it would see the UK remain in the customs union and "large parts" of the single market.

He told the BBC it was "utterly unacceptable to anyone who believes in democracy". "Am I going to vote against it. The answer is yes," he added.

And Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said "given the shambolic nature of the negotiations, this is unlikely to be the good deal for the country".

'Failure to deliver'
Both the UK and EU want to schedule a special summit of European leaders at the end of November to sign off the reportedly 500 page withdrawal deal and the much shorter outline declaration of their future relationship.

Brussels has insisted it would only agree to put the wheels in motion for the summit if agreement can be reached on the issue of the Irish border.

Ambassadors from the remaining 27 EU states will meet in Brussels on Wednesday.

If a deal is agreed with the EU, Mrs May then needs to persuade her party - and the rest of Parliament - to support it in a key Commons vote.

Conservative Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg said if details of the text reported by Irish broadcaster RTE were true, the UK would become a "vassal state" with Northern Ireland "being ruled from Dublin".

Such an agreement "failed to deliver on Brexit" and the cabinet should reject it, he told the BBC.

"I think what we know of this deal is deeply unsatisfactory," he said. "There seems to be growing opposition to these very poor proposals."

Meanwhile, following pressure from all sides of the Commons, ministers have agreed to provide MPs with a legal assessment of the implications for the UK of the Irish backstop and other controversial aspects of any deal.

Cabinet Office minister David Lidington said Attorney General Geoffrey Cox would make a statement to MPs and take questions ahead of the final vote on any Brexit deal.

MPs, he said, would get to see "a full reasoned position statement laying out the government's both political and also legal position on the proposed withdrawal agreement".

The Democratic Unionists' Westminster leader Nigel Dodds said he was pleased Parliament had "asserted its will" as it was imperative that all parties to the deal were clear in what way and for how long it would "legally bind" the UK.

Chequers minus it is. Whatever happened to no deal being better than a bad deal.

We should have been far more aggressive in negotiations with Brussels. They all but stated immediately after the referendum that they were going to bumrape us for having the temerity to leave, so we should have told them that unless and until they got serious, we'd basically go full on tax haven mode and steal all their big companies - and funnel money and support to Eurosceptics in Italy, Spain, Greece, Poland, and Hungary.
 
No idea if this falls under brit-politics or Corona, but damn if these cops aren't incredible exceptional as usual:

At least they are getting roasted harder than bacon in a pan.

These worthless pigs should be relieved of any duties they have and immediately replaced with literally fucking anyone else.
 
No idea if this falls under brit-politics or Corona, but damn if these cops aren't incredible exceptional as usual:

At least they are getting roasted harder than bacon in a pan.
They don’t want to get off their asses and do anything. It’s far easier to go online and prosecute trolls then go outside.
 
They don’t want to get off their asses and do anything. It’s far easier to go online and prosecute trolls then go outside.

They don't even generate prosecutions because most of these "incidents" don't involve anyone even breaking the law.


These idiots managed to spend £1.7 million to prosecute six people for absolutely trivial shit.
 
They don't even generate prosecutions because most of these "incidents" don't involve anyone even breaking the law.


These idiots managed to spend £1.7 million to prosecute six people for absolutely trivial shit.
You're not seeing the real scam here. People are being paid to spy on you to stop mean words, accomplishing nothing, but impossible to fire. The rape investigation squad will see a pay cut before the hate crime taskforce.
 
You're not seeing the real scam here. People are being paid to spy on you to stop mean words, accomplishing nothing, but impossible to fire. The rape investigation squad will see a pay cut before the hate crime taskforce.

Probably. It's also low effort police work. They can claim they're better at securing convictions and thus massage the figures with it so Sadiq and Cressida Penis look good.
 
Probably. It's also low effort police work. They can claim they're better at securing convictions and thus massage the figures with it so Sadiq and Cressida Penis look good.

There's no way you can massage £1.7 million for six low level misdemeanor prosecutions into looking good. They're not even good at just getting plain old prosecutions much less convictions that result in more than a tiny fine. Any prosecutions that get real time are classic hate crimes like vandalizing a mosque that would have got you put away without this dumb task force.
 
A Fucking White Male beat two women to become leader of Labour (who has never had a permanent female leader). Buckle up folks, the media screeching is gonna be good over the next few days.

Lol, no its not. The Media and Labour fell into the trap of "If the Tories can win with a posh southern bloke in a suit, we need our own posh southern bloke in a suit.

He's supposedly "inspired confidence" in a bunch of local labour branches but god knows how. He's been picked as the safest option but with the NEC now dominated by Momentumite nutters means we're still going to see shitty policies put forward by idiots who've never worked a day in their life.

Also, yes. Keir Stamer was responsible for both Labour's utterly confused Janus position on EU membership, campaigned heavily for Remain in the referendum (and isn't a "releaver" like the Tories all are now) and is why John Worboys nearly got out as it was during his tenure at the CPS that pushed Worboys crimes down from massed rape to a different charge that nearly saw him out on the streets not that long ago.

He's going to be fucking raked over the coals by some media outlets.
 
Lol, no its not. The Media and Labour fell into the trap of "If the Tories can win with a posh southern bloke in a suit, we need our own posh southern bloke in a suit.

Well when your other options are Jeremy Corbyn with a vag and problem glasses or someone who committed political seppuku on Breakfast TV over a piddly arse problem with a very clear solution, you're basically fucked as a party and should just give up.
 
B-but he won the argument!

The best thing I've seen on this comes from James Ivens, a personal lolcow of mine who is an ideologue for some far-left groupuscule in London. (And is a graduate of Oxford University, because you can't be that Marxist without being a scion of privilege to begin with.)

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The mind-bending stupidity of this take has to be seen to be believed. It's giving all the money saved from austerity to prop up failing businesses in a national emergency and thus save jobs. Yet, THe MoNeY WAs aLwaYS ThERe.

Why do these nutjobs always look like that?
I've been back and forthing with an acquaintance in the UK, who is overjoyed by the pandemic and how it can be the turning point for mobilisation in union/nationalisation of *everything*.
He actually unironically said "This is how Corbyn can win next time".

He looks exactly like this dude. A useless, pale, fleshy stump full of ideas on how "See the money was always there!! WE COULD DO THIS ALL THE TIME", yet at 35 is still getting gibs from Mum and Dad. Has no savings. Cannot balance a chequebook. But money is always there right?

Worst epidemic than Corona Chan, are these fleshy faggots.
 
Well when your other options are Jeremy Corbyn with a vag and problem glasses or someone who committed political seppuku on Breakfast TV over a piddly arse problem with a very clear solution, you're basically fucked as a party and should just give up.

Lisa Nandy was always nowhere, and flamed out over a big old nothing issue that has crashed out of UK discourse and hopefully will stay that way for a good long time as a result of the Kung Flu. It's a shame, as she was the only one who consistently impressed swing voters in any debate. Y'know, the people that Stammer now needs to actually win back in the future? When he campaigned hard to sell out the country to continued EU servitutde?

Yeah. Going to be a fun watch, especially if the current gov manages to handle the Pandemic just right.

Why do these nutjobs always look like that?
I've been back and forthing with an acquaintance in the UK, who is overjoyed by the pandemic and how it can be the turning point for mobilisation in union/nationalisation of *everything*.
He actually unironically said "This is how Corbyn can win next time".

He looks exactly like this dude. A useless, pale, fleshy stump full of ideas on how "See the money was always there!! WE COULD DO THIS ALL THE TIME", yet at 35 is still getting gibs from Mum and Dad. Has no savings. Cannot balance a chequebook. But money is always there right?

Worst epidemic than Corona Chan, are these fleshy faggots.

Nationalise what? Most of the key industries we need to fight this shit got portioned out under Blair and the globalists with companies like ICI being chopped up and sold off. Even previous globalists who wanted to boot up "new" industries like John Redwood have shut the fuck up and are beginning to eye up what industries need re-onshoring (and being able to clamp their claws into those Blue Norf seats of theirs.) We've got a Sony factory in Wales and an engine factory hastily repurposing themselves to help make ventilators, and goodness knows which companies trying to make masks and other key equipment that wouldn't normally.

I can see the UK government now driving a "De-sinofication" campaign of the global economy as would a lot of other nations doing it in tandem. Expect the new trade deals the UK was holding and hoping to get done now include "Strategic industrial co-operation" at its core. There's already been a few whispers of this beginning to grow and I reckon those Free Ports might expand quite considerably. 20 was only meant to be the first wave, after all...

People who typically think nationalising things have never had proper responsibility or run anything themselves. Command economies result in ridiculous notions and if any of them had any sense they'd encourage, or join, co-operative movements and companies or even help found them themselves.
 
Why do these nutjobs always look like that?
I've been back and forthing with an acquaintance in the UK, who is overjoyed by the pandemic and how it can be the turning point for mobilisation in union/nationalisation of *everything*.
He actually unironically said "This is how Corbyn can win next time".
This might not bring the changes these people want. The lockdown is really exposing who does and doesn't do the work.

We're running at 200% and it's clear that some people are going at 300% to keep up while others are bumming along at their normal <100% and trying to share the credit. This was always the case but the difference now is too much to ignore.

It's always the slackers that complain the most too. I don't think they're purposefully lazy but they're unable to organise work in a way that allows them to go into a highway hypnosis and plough through it. They never follow the system put in place and think they know a better method, but the system is what allows you to zone out while still catching errors.
 
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

So, of votes cast. Keir Starmer won 275,780 votes.

Spoilt ballots and non-voters totaled 293,284 votes. Over half the votes cast.
This is fucking tragic. His only chance imo is if the Government massively balls up handling Coronavirus and doesn't manage to get whatever resulting economic fallout under control. Other than that, I don't think he's got a chance. He's boring, not particularly charismatic and has skeletons in his closet from his time as DPP.
 
This is fucking tragic. His only chance imo is if the Government massively balls up handling Coronavirus and doesn't manage to get whatever resulting economic fallout under control. Other than that, I don't think he's got a chance. He's boring, not particularly charismatic and has skeletons in his closet from his time as DPP.
And yet he was still the least bad candidate in the running.

Personally I was hoping for RLB just for the comedy value.
 
This is fucking tragic. His only chance imo is if the Government massively balls up handling Coronavirus and doesn't manage to get whatever resulting economic fallout under control. Other than that, I don't think he's got a chance. He's boring, not particularly charismatic and has skeletons in his closet from his time as DPP.

I suspect there's a lot of background work going on on how to "fix" the economy and likely call for a more ambitious expansion of the Free Ports and offering incentives for "Made In Britain" after this is all over there's likely to be a rise of economic nationalism, even if it translates into an extra quid or two at the end.

Signs so far are the governments doing well. How they'll handle the economic fallout is going to be tough and interesting. Sunak's already pretty much said they'll want all the cash back they've doled out during this, so expect some red tape cutting somewhere to make it easy for people to do things while quietly rising a tax or two.
 
A Fucking White Male beat two women to become leader of Labour (who has never had a permanent female leader). Buckle up folks, the media screeching is gonna be good over the next few days.

A woman is not going to become Labour leader.

The Trade Unions are and remain one of the last bastions of a very real "the old boys club"; that has largely gone unchallenged because they sit at the heart of the labour party, have the most say as to who becomes leader and are assumed to be woke (quite the reverse if anyone else has management experience of dealing with union reps and delegations) so don't really get too much scrutiny. Then there is also the smaller but not minor consideration that the minority religious block (a.k.a Black Christian's, Eastern Europeans and Muslims) that votes labour tends to be socially conservative (unlike that of the Tories who tend to be less devout) who will be less inclined to get behind a female leader.

There is a reason why the other UK parties have had female leaders, in some cases several, but Labour never has nor will in it's current incarnation.

I'm not a labour voter so I dont really care.
 
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So, of votes cast. Keir Starmer won 275,780 votes.

Spoilt ballots and non-voters totaled 293,284 votes. Over half the votes cast.

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Oh that is amazing.
 
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