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Throw this lunacy in the archives as well: https://archive.li/laE10
RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future
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Sayon
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Only coomers, tumblr, and yurifags defend RWBY now
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Looks like I stopped watching before the SJW wokeness got unbearable. I'm like 2 volumes behind so I'm not really up to date.
Tbh the awful redesigns/new designs really killed my interest as, at least, the visuals were good enough for me to ignore the bad writing. But now, not even that.
I really only gave this show a chance due to a friend, but if from what I'm hearing this devolved into another woke mess, well I might catch up later for that friend and keep discussing this show... but why would I or anyone bother with this if you can watch real anime instead of a bad facsimile? I have given up on better franchises after they went woke.
I mean even the Yuri in anime is done for the audience's enjoyment and to tell a good story and not for the fans to be preached.
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Xenomorphs Are Cute
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I never really seen any coomer defend it tbh, majority of them admit that the only good thing about RWBY is porn.
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The sad part is that I used to defend Rwby around volume 3 and even early volume 4. I thought it was just a flawed show that was a little bit over-ambitious but had a lot of charm.
But once I heard about the Vic thing, I finally realized how bad the people behind the scenes are they killed a lot of goodwill from me. Everything I hear about the people that make this show is bad. And the low-quality writing that thinks it's better than it really is really doesn't help.
I would love to read one if a fellow kiwi made one, or a particularly good one someone recommends me. But I still think that unless you are doing one for fun, like most fanfics are done for, I think you would be better using your time and talents doing your own thing.
But once I heard about the Vic thing, I finally realized how bad the people behind the scenes are they killed a lot of goodwill from me. Everything I hear about the people that make this show is bad. And the low-quality writing that thinks it's better than it really is really doesn't help.
I would love to read one if a fellow kiwi made one, or a particularly good one someone recommends me. But I still think that unless you are doing one for fun, like most fanfics are done for, I think you would be better using your time and talents doing your own thing.
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The writing itself is not as autistic as you would think, there are even a few i would say are downright good. Its the authors that are the real autists though because they belong to one of two camps.
1. Those who worship the ground Rwby walks on. Which is a pretty clear indicator of extreme exceptionalism.
2. Former fans trying to "do RWBY right". Which always ends with them circlejerking over mediocre writing they think is genius because its better than the trashfire that is RT's writing (not a high bar).
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Honest, I think a problem with rewriting RWBY is that it's too much of a kitchen sink setting that one needs to jettison enough of it even Monty worked on the show for it to work as a serious setting. This is the case even when Monty is still alive.
Look at the faunus. They were only thrown in so that Monty could have a catgirl as one of the leads. Their position as a non-human is ignored when not dealing with the White Fang story. Even back when Monty was around you only really had the fantasy racism be shown by something like Cardin pulling a bunny girl's ears (and Cardin was established to be a bully who had no problem targeting humans). I recommend just scraping them and making characters like Blake just human, others have different suggestions.
And it goes on. Tone? Maidens? Is Ozpin still a bodyswapper or just an immortal like he was hinted to be awhile ago? Do you even want Salem around? I've even seen ideas to just scrap one of team RWBY (namely Ruby for not being a relevant protagonist or Blake for her derailing the plot) since following a trio is much easier to handle than handling 4 charactrs
Look at the faunus. They were only thrown in so that Monty could have a catgirl as one of the leads. Their position as a non-human is ignored when not dealing with the White Fang story. Even back when Monty was around you only really had the fantasy racism be shown by something like Cardin pulling a bunny girl's ears (and Cardin was established to be a bully who had no problem targeting humans). I recommend just scraping them and making characters like Blake just human, others have different suggestions.
And it goes on. Tone? Maidens? Is Ozpin still a bodyswapper or just an immortal like he was hinted to be awhile ago? Do you even want Salem around? I've even seen ideas to just scrap one of team RWBY (namely Ruby for not being a relevant protagonist or Blake for her derailing the plot) since following a trio is much easier to handle than handling 4 charactrs
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I feel like a citation is needed for this. I'm just seeing this so often that it sounds like something someone would make up to make RWBY look bad...or worse than it already is.
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Nah, I don't think scrapping any of them would solve the issue.
TBH, I don't buy the trio excuse, because a lot of shows have handled 5 or 6 leads just fine. Your average magical girl/superhero team show usually has 5-6 leads as well without issue. My favorite example would be Teen Titans.
Don't get me wrong, I can see why it would be easier in a fanfic to focus only in a trio, because it could potentially be too much work for a single person to give the 4 of them the attention they need, but in a visual medium like comics or animation 5-6 leads is 100% doable.
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LordBaron
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Depends. I've seen some rather good ones that make me want to go "why didn't they go with this? this was much easier", but I've also seen ones that are basically "just fucking torch the entire franchise and make a new setting".
For me, a good rewrite is one that takes the problems RWBY has and gives ideas of how to fix it. Though, some people will say "well, all of it need to be fixed".
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Miles and Kerry have bluntly made it clear that they don't like writing the White Fang plot (Miles had the infamous "two white guys" quote from C2E2 about it) and this even goes back to the v5 commentary. The plot had its most rammifications directly on the plot and screentime in seasons Monty was alive. Ergo, Monty had to be the one pushing for it, and lbr it may have all been just so he could have a catgirl.
when you have full 30 min episodes (21-26 actual mins depending on ad time) it is completely doable. RWBY at its "best" has barely 18 mins and usually has episodes that fall much shorter than that. Its still doable with a competent writing staff (HAHAHAHAHA), but if your time and resources are so limited why bother increasing the work load by adding more leads (its really 5 leads with how much time and energy Jaune takes up).
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Well, in 2013 the show wasn't that long and it was condensed enough to be your typical web show and it was that for two volumes. It wasn't until Beacon fell that you started to see how underdeveloped things were and it snowballed from there. Honesly, I'm not sure how a "30 minute an episode" RWBY would work out, though the only time RT did the "30 minutes/fit for TV airing" setup was Gen Lock, so then again it may all depend on the writing.
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I don't know why, but in my opinion, the Faunus are literally just kemonomimis. Hell, why not remake them all into looking like the characters from Rock and Rule?
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Because it wouldn't be "anime enough". Don't forget the fact that RWBY was made by an autistic weeb who thought of anime as a genre instead as a medium and tried to make the series as "anime" as possible.
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How is it deniable? Even when Monty was alive the White Fang had no relevance to the plot beyond Blake (both giving her a dark past as a terrorist and her own archenemy) and providing goons to fight who aren't Roman's minions. RWBY are not politically active (not at the start anyway), have no special importance as a team, and Weiss might have the potential for such as Jacques' heir her duties as such actually don't fit too well with being a huntsman. Them jumping in some catgirl civil rights subplot is way too on on the nose.
Ultimately the White Fang, faunus, even Blake, all come off as if they were intended to be in a separate IP and got shoehorned into RWBY. Blake the White Fang and Blake the token non-human member of her team live in separate in narratives. Now that Adam's dead and the White Fang lack teeth, Blake has no direction for her (no being a gay doesn't count) since much of her character was invested in that cut of the plot.
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I think my problem with things like the White Fang and the Atlas military is that it shows that not enough time was used to develop the world at large during RWBY’s pre production phases, and that’s not getting into things like how volumes 1 & 2 seemed like their own condensed show. Two big organizations and the only structure they have is “leader” and “everyone else”, like an academy team.
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I present to you...shilling.
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To RWBY's merit I will say I think there is a distinction between Semblances and magic, they just don't do a good job of emphasizing it (and they're probably close to forgetting anyway).
Semblances require Aura, Maiden magic doesn't. Amber got ganked by CME who broke her aura but she managed to throw some magic at Cinder afterwards. Magic is probably supposed to be limitless albeit constrained by the user's focus: Amber was too tired to defend herself even with Maiden magic as a relatively inexperienced young woman, Winter Maiden was too senile to play on the offensive at all. In a world where the rule is "everyone has mana bars", someone with infinite MP hax definitely merits some distinction. It's just a shame Maiden powers are just boring elemental shit when even some third rate NPC character can manipulate time (that dog guy in Ass Ops) and we have another cat girl who can shit rainbows out of her butt.
Also I'm salty they ruined Weiss's fighting style, they turned it from rune casting rapier user to boring static summons where she just stands there. They have no idea how to animate the ballet moves they tried to add in, I'd rather they didn't because it was pure cringe.
Semblances require Aura, Maiden magic doesn't. Amber got ganked by CME who broke her aura but she managed to throw some magic at Cinder afterwards. Magic is probably supposed to be limitless albeit constrained by the user's focus: Amber was too tired to defend herself even with Maiden magic as a relatively inexperienced young woman, Winter Maiden was too senile to play on the offensive at all. In a world where the rule is "everyone has mana bars", someone with infinite MP hax definitely merits some distinction. It's just a shame Maiden powers are just boring elemental shit when even some third rate NPC character can manipulate time (that dog guy in Ass Ops) and we have another cat girl who can shit rainbows out of her butt.
Also I'm salty they ruined Weiss's fighting style, they turned it from rune casting rapier user to boring static summons where she just stands there. They have no idea how to animate the ballet moves they tried to add in, I'd rather they didn't because it was pure cringe.