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Their reaction he described could have also been them realizing he was a crazy doomer broadcasting from the apocalypse bunker. When someone says "nothing will ever be the same we cant enjoy human activities again because the virus might do something in the future and we take care of old people", they all consider his suggestion and realize the idea that caretakers cant go back to being humans because they care for the infirm as being utterly ludicrous.

His reaction is no different then people in 2002 saying "we'll never be able to fly again because the planes could be full of TURRURISTS". It's just doomer speak, because old people might die, so how dare we think about resuming normal activities after a crisis is over? Anyone who honestly thinks well never be able to enjoy movie theaters or shopping malls or gatherings again because corona exists is honestly pants on head exceptional.

OK, I've just re-read the original post:
I could see the faces of the other participants, and they all instantly got this look of horror.
and it could be interpreted your way - everyone was thinking "who let this guy in?". I took him as a reliable narrator, and accepted his interpretation of events, as he was the one who was there.
Either way, I stick with what I took from the post, which is try to get some opinions from many different sources , and be aware of your blindspots and biases creeping in, including the counterintuitive blindspot of greater than average knowledge.
This thread is useful for that. Even though you have to filter the assorted crazies, LARPers, Walts and trolls , it's still an insight into how other countries are feeling that I couldn't get elsewhere. Well, except another international forum I suppose. But this place is very used to scouring sources, digging deeper, and not trusting prepackaged narratives. The other forums I lurk or use had a mixture of doomers and flu bros on their Wuhan thread, but this place was more balanced.
I saw quite a lot of American Exceptionalism elsewhere that this site didn't have . I.e. "Italy's a third world shit hole, that can't happen here, we'll beat that commie flu with bald eagles and hubris! Motherfucker."
I mean , we had that here, but I chose to interpret it ironically.
 
Our governor (Oregon) has decided to give all the generators that we just got from the feds to the state of New York.
(archive)

This 140 was the exact amount she had asked for, but apparently we only have about 40 people in the entire state right now on ventilators right now and apparently already had 600 ventilators in our own stockpile. A lot of reports out there about how we aren't getting as many cases as originally projected and that the social distancing here is paying off.

But I can still see this biting us in the ass.

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Current number of cases: 999
Deaths: 26

Nice case tracker/map that lists cases by county, similar to the John Hopkins world map
(archive)
 
God fucking damn it, here we go again:

Democrats Introduce Bill Giving Coronavirus Relief To Illegal Aliens

Several House Democrats introduced legislation that, if signed into law, would allow illegal aliens to obtain funds from the recently passed coronavirus relief package.

California Rep. Lou Correa, along with two other Democratic lawmakers, introduced the Leave No Taxpayer Behind Act on Friday. The legislation would amend the CARES Act — the $2 trillion stimulus package intended to help Americans suffering under the coronavirus pandemic, and allow individuals living in the U.S. unlawfully to apply for funds.

Take a shot. :fapcup:
 
So I have a few updates from Canada land to contribute. So I guess on the 6th they are going to attempt to roll out their "stimulus package," to all of the unlucky bastards such as myself that ended up losing their jobs over the Covid-Paniac. Apparently my Chef got a hold of the unemployment office, they where cool, and I guess told him that they're going to be giving $500 a week to everyone until October. These payments are back paid from March 15th, Ontario officially began quarantine measures and lock down back on March 17th. The stimulus package is taxable, and this is going to be their way of "giving a helping hand" to everyone effected by this garbage. The small businesses are unequivocally fucked by this, and I am going to see a lot of empty buildings after all is said and done. Testing is still abysmal and minimal, only 350k or so to date we've actually bothered to test.

While I agree that this is going to be really rough for small businesses, let's not act like Trudeau's done a bad job.

The Liberals lost the fucking election, they have a minority government,

Nigger do you realize how dumb that comment is?
 
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Their reaction he described could have also been them realizing he was a crazy doomer broadcasting from the apocalypse bunker. When someone says "nothing will ever be the same we cant enjoy human activities again because the virus might do something in the future and we take care of old people", they all consider his suggestion and realize the idea that caretakers cant go back to being humans because they care for the infirm as being utterly ludicrous.

His reaction is no different then people in 2002 saying "we'll never be able to fly again because the planes could be full of TURRURISTS". It's just doomer speak, because old people might die, so how dare we think about resuming normal activities after a crisis is over? Anyone who honestly thinks well never be able to enjoy movie theaters or shopping malls or gatherings again because corona exists is honestly pants on head exceptional.

I never said anything about "we." I said "I." I have people I am responsible for, so I didn't know if or when I would be going back to theaters. I didn't say no one would ever be able to do anything social ever again. You are putting words in my mouth and misquoting me.
 
Google launching tool that will publicly track people's movements, allowing health officials to check whether their communities are abiding by social-distancing measures - ABC News
lol normies btfo, it's not that hard to avoid Google. It's so terrible anyway (the shilltastic page results, shite image search) that I don't know why savvier souls still use it.

Seriously though, while I'd love to go phoneless I can imagine the vulnerable groups who do one on them and some people just live in unsafe as fuck areas. If I had a burner phone I'd take out the battery but I'd have to buy one online and that leaves an e-paper trail. But buy one in the store with cash and they'll probably suspect something and you'll be on CCTV anyway.
 
I don't think installing the App is relevant. Google/Apple will track you anyway. I've no idea what Palantir do, some Big Data tracking, but I don't know what their inputs are. (Archive of sky news story about tracking)
Palantir's dirty secret is that they are just a consultancy like ThoughtWorks that have targeted the glowies. They've built this mystique but there's nothing they would do better than an Google or Microsoft.
 
Well, people in my area sure the fuck aren't taking this remotely seriously. Neighbors have barbecued three days in a row, 15+ people there each day and most of them are old. Parks and playgrounds packed, Walmart was packed. Heard from some former coworkers that the local Amish were thick there and having fucking cookouts in the parking lot. Amish still having weddings with three hundred plus people in attendance, some of whom came from upstate New York. Mostly quiet for now but I get the feeling that my area might very well become a hotspot in the state of Ohio. Walmart is the primary meeting-place, gathering spot and social scene in a rural, small town and it's still no exception in my town. Having worked at Walmart for several years, that's the last place I want to be and that's especially true now. I don't know if people think this is just going to blow over and go back to normal within the month of April or what, but the longer people refuse to use some god damned common sense, the longer this is going to take and the worse it will get.
 
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I never said anything about "we." I said "I." I have people I am responsible for, so I didn't know if or when I would be going back to theaters. I didn't say no one would ever be able to do anything social ever again. You are putting words in my mouth and misquoting me.
Not allowing yourself to ever return back to normal behavior because someone might one day get sick is falling on your own sword trying to drum up sympathy. And the fact you labeled those who were talking about resuming normal behavior once this is over as "stupid", by signifying you couldn't understand this behavior because you dont hang out around enough "stupid people", implies you honestly believe normal human behaviors will be too risky to return to and that those that do are idiots. That word came OUT of your mouth, I didnt have to put it anywhere.

I can make a reasonable assumption based on your description of people wishing to return to a normal life that when you made these comments about how YOU were not sure if you could return to a normal life, you did so with the non verbal communication and tone of voice of someone judging others for daring to disagree with you.

Perhaps you are 100% genuine and dont hold it against anyone else for wanting to return to normalcy, but your responses sure dont display that line of thinking.

If the people you are that responsible for would likely die from Corona, chances are they are going to die of the flu, a cold, norovirus, ece as well. If you didnt already implement these type of stay-at-home measures years ago, then doing it now and blaming their health/corona for why you will continue to do it is the definition of virtue signalling.

Oh, by the way, you said
" It was clear that none of them had ever thought about this lasting more than a couple of weeks, or about another virus happening. Maybe I need to make more of an effort to hang around more stupid people, but I was a little taken aback that none of them had anticipated that the world might not go back to the way it was after this. "

This is not "I" "I" "I". You stated that you believes this would affect those other then you. So go fuck yourself, trying to gaslight on this forum like some chink redditor.
Thats quite a crystal ball you got there.
Context clues are fun.
 
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So I have a few updates from Canada land to contribute. So I guess on the 6th they are going to attempt to roll out their "stimulus package," to all of the unlucky bastards such as myself that ended up losing their jobs over the Covid-Paniac. Apparently my Chef got a hold of the unemployment office, they where cool, and I guess told him that they're going to be giving $500 a week to everyone until October. These payments are back paid from March 15th, Ontario officially began quarantine measures and lock down back on March 17th. The stimulus package is taxable, and this is going to be their way of "giving a helping hand" to everyone effected by this garbage. The small businesses are unequivocally fucked by this, and I am going to see a lot of empty buildings after all is said and done. Testing is still abysmal and minimal, only 350k or so to date we've actually bothered to test.

The CBC are shilling the narrative of the Libtard government at this point, and seeing the hysteria over the easily fixed PPE problem makes me upset. They are still going to accept the faulty China crap, which I 100% do not trust, and we probably shouldn't even accept it at this point. Local manufacturing is already working on hand santizer, and they are also going to start producing PPE. Luckily where I am located, the factories will be busy, so hopefully this will give a surge to our already crumbled manufacturing sector, so we can tell China to fuck off too and I can get back to work. Only a subset of people are still defending the narrative, and these are the pro-rat king lets not pay our fucking rent crowd trying to police everyone. When I asked certain individuals a couple of months back about this, they all repeated the "it's racist to not want potential sick people" shit.

Trudeau is still skipping out of his house belittling everyone still and making bold threats to our American friends. Fucking libtard Canadians don't understand that America shouldn't be responsible for supplying our PPE, especially in the aspect that the whole country is getting dog fucked right now by the Chink Flu. Our stupid fucking health minister and their cronies are still supporting the WHO and China numbers, because they can't admit that they where wrong about the severity of this virus. Trudeau and his band of commies are making Canadians look bad, and him being the face of this pisses me off more by the day.

The Liberals lost the fucking election, they have a minority government, and that is how come the original shit stimulus proposal ended up getting shot down. I guess the Chink flu is going to wipe out his voting base, because the highest concentrations of this shit still is in majority Liberal places. Trudeau and the ministers 100% lost the propaganda war, and China 100% lost the narrative despite what anyone believes. Majority of people in Canada land are conservative minded, and luckily Ford is premier in Ontario right now, so we have a bit of a fighting chance to curving this thing.

Every update from Canada makes me remember our Health Minister was an Arts student and our deputy health minister has a PHD, in geology.

Canada is undertesting something fierce and we arguably have low / sparce enough population that we could have prevented a lot of infection if we had gone harder and faster on crack downs.
 
Outside China:

1,114,862, confirmed / 61,276 dead / 169,206 recovered

1015398 / 55805 / 149182 yesterday

Iran

55,743 confirmed / 3,452 dead / 19,736 recovered

55183 / 3294 / 17935 yesterday

USA

308,850 confirmed / 8,407 dead / 14,652 recovered JohnHopkins
310,609 confirmed / 8,461 dead / 14,661 recovered Infection2020

276995 / 7406 / 9772 yesterday JohnHopkins
277015 / 7411 / 9772 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

126,168 confirmed / 11,947 dead / 34,219 recovered

119199 / 11198 / 30513 yesterday

Italy

124,632 confirmed / 15,362 dead / 20,996 recovered

119827 / 14681 / 19758 yesterday

France

90,848 confirmed / 7,574 dead / 15,572 recovered

65202 / 6520 / 14135 yesterday

Germany

96,092 confirmed / 1,444 dead / 26,400 recovered

91159 / 1275 / 24575 yesterday
 
Not allowing yourself to ever return back to normal behavior because someone might one day get sick is falling on your own sword trying to drum up sympathy. And the fact you labeled those who were talking about resuming normal behavior once this is over as "stupid", by signifying you couldn't understand this behavior because you dont hang out around enough "stupid people", implies you honestly believe normal human behaviors will be too risky to return to and that those that do are idiots. That word came OUT of your mouth, I didnt have to put it anywhere.

I can make a reasonable assumption based on your description of people wishing to return to a normal life that when you made these comments about how YOU were not sure if you could return to a normal life, you did so with the non verbal communication and tone of voice of someone judging others for daring to disagree with you.

Perhaps you are 100% genuine and dont hold it against anyone else for wanting to return to normalcy, but your responses sure dont display that line of thinking.

Oh, and by the way, if the people you are that responsible for would likely die from Corona, chances are they are going to die of the flu, a cold, norovirus, ece as well. If you didnt already implement these type of stay-at-home measures years ago, then doing it now and blaming their health is the definition of virtue signalling.


Context clues are fun.

I never said that I would never return to normal behavior. You did put words in my mouth by claiming I said otherwise and claiming that what I said meant otherwise. Anyone who thinks that things are going to go back to the way they were after a few weeks is stupid. And if you want to continue this, please take it to my wall or to PM and stop clogging this thread with this bullshit.
 
But buy one in the store with cash and they'll probably suspect something and you'll be on CCTV anyway.

Just go to the bad part of town where one store sells like 5 different phone plans and everyone is paying in cash because they don’t want to pay child support. Also because they’re drug dealers, but that’s how you know you’re in the bad part of town. The person selling you the phone should ideally be from India or Egypt and that’s how you know you’ve found your shithole.
 
First person at my place of employment tested positive today. Packed with elderlies. I have been out for 2 weeks so I doubt I caught it but fuck. I can't go in because I have a household member with pre-existing conditions. Don't know if my job will still exist when this calms down. It's happening. This shit will get everywhere. Don't think you're safe because you live in rural cowshitville.
 
Just go to the bad part of town where one store sells like 5 different phone plans and everyone is paying in cash because they don’t want to pay child support. Also because they’re drug dealers, but that’s how you know you’re in the bad part of town. The person selling you the phone should ideally be from India or Egypt and that’s how you know you’ve found your shithole.
Another thing to look for is them advertising UNLOCKING on their storefronts. Those dudes aint keeping no records and if they do have CCTV its on a short loop just to get people who stick them up.
 

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While I agree that this is going to be really rough for small businesses, let's not act like Trudeau's done a bad job.
Trudeau is just the face of the ministers that are actually making the decisions, and our health minister and our fiance minister are fucking clowns to begin with. The way he is representing our situation on the international stage is fucking embarrassing, plus the China cock sucking needs to stop, and that is my main problem with his administration over the span of the last few years now. Also the adoption of these jammed up thought police policies, while we could of prepared our stockpile for this eventuality. We should be constantly revamping our supplies in case of this type of scenario, I thought Canada out of all countries would of taken the proper precautions, and especially after SARS.


nigga do you realize how dumb that comment is?
I'd have to disagree, if we acted sooner then we would of had a fighting chance. At this point we are essentially sitting ducks, and our economy before WASN'T THAT GREAT. Now we are heading into uncharted territory because of poor implementation of polcies that should of been implemented a couple of months back.
Every update from Canada makes me remember our Health Minister was an Arts student and our deputy health minister has a PHD, in geology.

Canada is undertesting something fierce and we arguably have low / sparce enough population that we could have prevented a lot of infection if we had gone harder and faster on crack downs.

That's the whole part of it when I am watching these daily updates, that we could of EASILY prevented the spread of this thing. It isn't like we have that dense of a population to begin with, outside of certain subsections of the country. Even during the SARS outbreak in Toronto, the preventive measures where actually implemented in a more effective way as opposed to the modern equivalent with SARS-2. How the hell did we get the art and social science department dictating policy over something like this? This is what happens when we vote based on pandering to cross-dressers and the perpetual victim ideology that our country has adopted over the last few years. I can say that with a bit of optimism that Canadians have the culture that we will take the initiative to police ourselves, as well help each other out during this difficult time. We are small enough and spread out enough that we can curve it out better, but testing needs to get ramped up hardcore if we are going to save our people. The opposition should of put in a vote of no confidence when they voted on that stimulus package and got these jokers out of the public eye. Just my take though.
 
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