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Agreement is finally in Number 10's grasp.

The text that's taken months of officials' blood, sweat and tears has been agreed, at least at a technical level.

Now a paper's being drafted to present to the Cabinet tomorrow ready for the government's hoped-for next step - political approval from Theresa May's team, even though many of them have deep reservations.

Remember in the last 24 hours some of them have been warning privately that what's on the table is just not acceptable, and will never get through Parliament. Some even believe the prime minister ought to walk away.

But the government machine is now cranking into action. With a text ready, their long-planned rollout can begin.
The BBC's chief political correspondent Vicki Young said some ministers had "deep concerns" about the shape of the likely agreement, which critics say could leave the UK trapped in a customs agreement with the EU.

She said they would have to decide whether they could support it, and if not, whether to resign from cabinet.

Leading Brexiteers have already condemned the draft agreement, Boris Johnson saying it would see the UK remain in the customs union and "large parts" of the single market.

He told the BBC it was "utterly unacceptable to anyone who believes in democracy". "Am I going to vote against it. The answer is yes," he added.

And Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said "given the shambolic nature of the negotiations, this is unlikely to be the good deal for the country".

'Failure to deliver'
Both the UK and EU want to schedule a special summit of European leaders at the end of November to sign off the reportedly 500 page withdrawal deal and the much shorter outline declaration of their future relationship.

Brussels has insisted it would only agree to put the wheels in motion for the summit if agreement can be reached on the issue of the Irish border.

Ambassadors from the remaining 27 EU states will meet in Brussels on Wednesday.

If a deal is agreed with the EU, Mrs May then needs to persuade her party - and the rest of Parliament - to support it in a key Commons vote.

Conservative Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg said if details of the text reported by Irish broadcaster RTE were true, the UK would become a "vassal state" with Northern Ireland "being ruled from Dublin".

Such an agreement "failed to deliver on Brexit" and the cabinet should reject it, he told the BBC.

"I think what we know of this deal is deeply unsatisfactory," he said. "There seems to be growing opposition to these very poor proposals."

Meanwhile, following pressure from all sides of the Commons, ministers have agreed to provide MPs with a legal assessment of the implications for the UK of the Irish backstop and other controversial aspects of any deal.

Cabinet Office minister David Lidington said Attorney General Geoffrey Cox would make a statement to MPs and take questions ahead of the final vote on any Brexit deal.

MPs, he said, would get to see "a full reasoned position statement laying out the government's both political and also legal position on the proposed withdrawal agreement".

The Democratic Unionists' Westminster leader Nigel Dodds said he was pleased Parliament had "asserted its will" as it was imperative that all parties to the deal were clear in what way and for how long it would "legally bind" the UK.
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Chequers minus it is. Whatever happened to no deal being better than a bad deal.

We should have been far more aggressive in negotiations with Brussels. They all but stated immediately after the referendum that they were going to bumrape us for having the temerity to leave, so we should have told them that unless and until they got serious, we'd basically go full on tax haven mode and steal all their big companies - and funnel money and support to Eurosceptics in Italy, Spain, Greece, Poland, and Hungary.
 
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Fagatron said:
I hope so as well. I know some of the lefties here and my pro-EU friends back home are rejoicing because they think, and not entirely incorrectly, that the death of Boris would be a blow to anti-EU movements across the EU as well as the definitive end to Brexit.
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And yet these same leftards are aghast when you tell them you're hoping their favored candidate dies. Hypocrites, the whole lot of them.
 
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TheImportantFart said:
I’ve seen some remoaners expressing hope that Brexit will be cancelled altogether because of the virus and Boris’s hospitalisation. You’ve gotta love them, they never stop grasping at straws.
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If Boris dies then supreme leader Corbyn and not the chancellor will become prime minister because that’s totally how it works in the UK.
 
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Dominic Raab would be expected to take charge as First Secretary Of State, but in this instance, the Health Secretary, Matt Hancock may be picked. Some are even saying Pob is likely to play a key role too.
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Raab has been named successor.

Bare in mind, Raab was quite happy for a No Deal Brexit to go through and planned accordingly. BoJo's more of a bang the table till it works sort.

So these mongs desperate for the virus to cancel brexit would get a rude wake up on that. The UK's handling the virus well without the EU's tender, loving embrace on every aspect. Or, yknow, when the Germans and French aren't stopping vital medical supplies legit bought by the Italians going to Italy.

It seems rather precautionary acts to send BoJo to hospital, but he's on day 10 of this thing while everyone else in government, Hancock, Dorries, Whitty, Cummings etc etc have all had it, and shaken it off within a week.

Meanwhile, in irrelevent news. Sir Keir Stammer's busy building his utterly meaningless Shadow Cabinet.

Fun appointments include a Shadow Chancellor nobody's heard of and has been MP for all of ten minutes.


And David. Fuckin Lammy as Shadow Justice Secretary.

David Lammy.

Oh and Ed Miliband's Business, Energy and Industrial Security.


Curiously, Keir's appointing "Shadow" members to posts that don't apparently exist. Things like. "Young Voter Engagement" and "Employment Rights and Protections".
 
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Ponderous Pillock said:
Raab has been named successor.

Bare in mind, Raab was quite happy for a No Deal Brexit to go through and planned accordingly. BoJo's more of a bang the table till it works sort.

So these mongs desperate for the virus to cancel brexit would get a rude wake up on that. The UK's handling the virus well without the EU's tender, loving embrace on every aspect. Or, yknow, when the Germans and French aren't stopping vital medical supplies legit bought by the Italians going to Italy.

It seems rather precautionary acts to send BoJo to hospital, but he's on day 10 of this thing while everyone else in government, Hancock, Dorries, Whitty, Cummings etc etc have all had it, and shaken it off within a week.

Meanwhile, in irrelevent news. Sir Keir Stammer's busy building his utterly meaningless Shadow Cabinet.

Fun appointments include a Shadow Chancellor nobody's heard of and has been MP for all of ten minutes.


And David. Fuckin Lammy as Shadow Justice Secretary.

David Lammy.

Oh and Ed Miliband's Business, Energy and Industrial Security.


Curiously, Keir's appointing "Shadow" members to posts that don't apparently exist. Things like. "Young Voter Engagement" and "Employment Rights and Protections".
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Thornbelly as international trade secretary...

Wrong-Daily as education secretary

What the fuck is with this guy's picks? It's not as bad as Abbott in a senior position, but it's still shit.
 
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Thornbelly as international trade secretary...

Wrong-Daily as education secretary

What the fuck is with this guy's picks? It's not as bad as Abbott in a senior position, but it's still shit.
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There's literally nobody about. Most of the talent either fucked off and joined the Tories as a "Red Tory" wing, or fucked off out of politics altogether. Mostly the latter. Blair, Smith and Brown tore out the ability to find talent within the party to secure their grip on power and its been a slow decline since, with Ed Miliband and then Corbyn letting Militant 2.0 in showing that.

Now we have this talent pool.

I feel like I have to really push how thick David Lammy is.

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David Lammy makes embarrassing statement about policing | Videos | Express.co.uk

Labour MP David Lammy complains that he believes neighbourhood policing has vanished. He tells BBC News, 'I haven't seen police while I've been here and I've been here for a little while now', but there is a police officer standing behind him.
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Like, even if you try and play the "token card" you wind up with people who seem to have some intellect on the government benches. Sunka, Saj when he was about. Priti Patel etc.
 
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Ponderous Pillock said:
There's literally nobody about. Most of the talent either fucked off and joined the Tories as a "Red Tory" wing, or fucked off out of politics altogether. Mostly the latter. Blair, Smith and Brown tore out the ability to find talent within the party to secure their grip on power and its been a slow decline since, with Ed Miliband and then Corbyn letting Militant 2.0 in showing that.

Now we have this talent pool.

I feel like I have to really push how thick David Lammy is.

www.express.co.uk

David Lammy makes embarrassing statement about policing | Videos | Express.co.uk

Labour MP David Lammy complains that he believes neighbourhood policing has vanished. He tells BBC News, 'I haven't seen police while I've been here and I've been here for a little while now', but there is a police officer standing behind him.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk


Like, even if you try and play the "token card" you wind up with people who seem to have some intellect on the government benches. Sunka, Saj when he was about. Priti Patel etc.
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Lack of MPs plus throwing a bone to some of the more lefty elements in the minor positions to try and keep them onside. The major positions all closer align with him.

Starmer probably knows Lammy is a liability but he supported his campaign so he has to reward that. Justice is an interesting position for him though given he’s strongly against Stop and Search at a time where gang crime in London is soaring.

IMO most interesting is no place for Jess Phillips, she’d even managed to keep her massive gob mostly shut. Wonder if there’s something I’m missing, or he sees her as a threat.
 
Is it true that Sir Stormer was running Child Protective Services when they decided not to try and prosecute Jimmy Saville?
 
Well shit.

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Thomas Talus said:
Is it true that Sir Stormer was running Child Protective Services when they decided not to try and prosecute Jimmy Saville?
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Yes, and he's almost solely responsible for John Worboys nearly going free just a few years ago, because for some bizarre reason despite the himalayan sized amount of evidence they'd collected, he only ordered the pursuit of a much lesser charge that nearly saw him on the streets just last year.

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This is worrying. Does now mean Raab is PM effective immediately. Now really worrying and looks like BoJo gets to follow Pericles' path if we're not lucky.
 
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