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Agreement is finally in Number 10's grasp.

The text that's taken months of officials' blood, sweat and tears has been agreed, at least at a technical level.

Now a paper's being drafted to present to the Cabinet tomorrow ready for the government's hoped-for next step - political approval from Theresa May's team, even though many of them have deep reservations.

Remember in the last 24 hours some of them have been warning privately that what's on the table is just not acceptable, and will never get through Parliament. Some even believe the prime minister ought to walk away.

But the government machine is now cranking into action. With a text ready, their long-planned rollout can begin.
The BBC's chief political correspondent Vicki Young said some ministers had "deep concerns" about the shape of the likely agreement, which critics say could leave the UK trapped in a customs agreement with the EU.

She said they would have to decide whether they could support it, and if not, whether to resign from cabinet.

Leading Brexiteers have already condemned the draft agreement, Boris Johnson saying it would see the UK remain in the customs union and "large parts" of the single market.

He told the BBC it was "utterly unacceptable to anyone who believes in democracy". "Am I going to vote against it. The answer is yes," he added.

And Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said "given the shambolic nature of the negotiations, this is unlikely to be the good deal for the country".

'Failure to deliver'
Both the UK and EU want to schedule a special summit of European leaders at the end of November to sign off the reportedly 500 page withdrawal deal and the much shorter outline declaration of their future relationship.

Brussels has insisted it would only agree to put the wheels in motion for the summit if agreement can be reached on the issue of the Irish border.

Ambassadors from the remaining 27 EU states will meet in Brussels on Wednesday.

If a deal is agreed with the EU, Mrs May then needs to persuade her party - and the rest of Parliament - to support it in a key Commons vote.

Conservative Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg said if details of the text reported by Irish broadcaster RTE were true, the UK would become a "vassal state" with Northern Ireland "being ruled from Dublin".

Such an agreement "failed to deliver on Brexit" and the cabinet should reject it, he told the BBC.

"I think what we know of this deal is deeply unsatisfactory," he said. "There seems to be growing opposition to these very poor proposals."

Meanwhile, following pressure from all sides of the Commons, ministers have agreed to provide MPs with a legal assessment of the implications for the UK of the Irish backstop and other controversial aspects of any deal.

Cabinet Office minister David Lidington said Attorney General Geoffrey Cox would make a statement to MPs and take questions ahead of the final vote on any Brexit deal.

MPs, he said, would get to see "a full reasoned position statement laying out the government's both political and also legal position on the proposed withdrawal agreement".

The Democratic Unionists' Westminster leader Nigel Dodds said he was pleased Parliament had "asserted its will" as it was imperative that all parties to the deal were clear in what way and for how long it would "legally bind" the UK.

Chequers minus it is. Whatever happened to no deal being better than a bad deal.

We should have been far more aggressive in negotiations with Brussels. They all but stated immediately after the referendum that they were going to bumrape us for having the temerity to leave, so we should have told them that unless and until they got serious, we'd basically go full on tax haven mode and steal all their big companies - and funnel money and support to Eurosceptics in Italy, Spain, Greece, Poland, and Hungary.
 
I'm beginning to think we need a thread on an entire county at this rate.

From the retarded antics of their police, to Labour Mayor and Councillors saying Bojo "totally deserves it" the whole county seems to be filled with vile, "right on" tards.

She's actually had the whip withdrawn and she was busy mewling about PPE that's been issued to NHS trusts in the millions by this point but is still strangely not reaching certain frontline units.

I'm getting shades of Puerto Rico now, like managers are purposefully not issuing them.
 
I'm beginning to think we need a thread on an entire county at this rate.

From the exceptional antics of their police, to Labour Mayor and Councillors saying Bojo "totally deserves it" the whole county seems to be filled with vile, "right on" tards.

She's actually had the whip withdrawn and she was busy mewling about PPE that's been issued to NHS trusts in the millions by this point but is still strangely not reaching certain frontline units.

I'm getting shades of Puerto Rico now, like managers are purposefully not issuing them.

Airlift The Siddiquis from Gogglebox out then carpetbomb Derbyshire.

Or just wall it off and use it as one large quarantine zone, either way.
 
Airlift The Siddiquis from Gogglebox out then carpetbomb Derbyshire.

Or just wall it off and use it as one large quarantine zone, either way.

Oakes' bit can be carpetbombed to shit and back. It'd be a fucking improvement. Want to see what a place looks like that just refuses to repurpose after industry leaves when it's within the Nottingham-Derby commuter belt?

Yeah. Welcome to Heanor. Last council controlled by Labour too. So shock of shocks its mostly sitting around doing fuck all.
 
I think for Boris it's going to depend on whether he was being macho and left it late or if the doctors made him go early. It seems like US presidents are usually forced to go early because it's considered a security issue.

Even when he was cycling and running a lot he was still fat. If London hated him as much as Twitter says he would never have been able to ride around like this:

 
I think for Boris it's going to depend on whether he was being macho and left it late or if the doctors made him go early. It seems like US presidents are usually forced to go early because it's considered a security issue.

Even when he was cycling and running a lot he was still fat. If London hated him as much as Twitter says he would never have been able to ride around like this:

If life followed anything twitter said, there would be no Trump and no landslide Tory majority.
 
I really don't want Boris to die because he seemed to be an actual person instead of a politician but since there's no formal succession plan...

Can we have Elizabeth?
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I really don't want Boris to die because he seemed to be an actual person instead of a politician but since there's no formal succession plan...

Can we have Elizabeth?
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There is a line of succession.

Raab is the first secretary of state with his role as Foreign Sec.

That's followed by Rishi Sunak at the Treasury.

Then it's Priti Patel as Home Secretary

Then Matt Hancock as Health Secretary

Then it's Micheal Gove, who's currently isolating so won't count.

This is why they're considered "Great Offices of State" and are seen as posts to test your suitability to be a PM.
 
to Labour Mayor and Councillors saying Bojo "totally deserves it" the whole county seems to be filled with vile, "right on" tards.

She doesn't look like she'd survive it in her shape. Who's kicking into the fund to get a skywriter to write "she fucking deserved it" above her funeral?

There is a line of succession.

And even if there wasn't the leader of the majority party is the PM so they would pick a temporary replacement until a leadership election. People saying there isn't a sucessor don't seem to appreciate that we have a totally different system to America and the PM is not directly elected.
 
She doesn't look like she'd survive it in her shape. Who's kicking into the fund to get a skywriter to write "she fucking deserved it" above her funeral?

I think that's the card and flowers to be sent. Don't you reckon?

And even if there wasn't the leader of the majority party is the PM so they would pick a temporary replacement until a leadership election. People saying there isn't a sucessor don't seem to appreciate that we have a totally different system to America and the PM is not directly elected.

Yeah but thicko journos think we are.

Which is why nobody trusts a fucking word they say in this crisis.
 
This guys channel popped up on my feed last week,hes a junior ER doc.He works in a run of the mill London hospital(afaik,i dont live in London) and seems like a normal,regular,honest and likeable dude,his vlogs no matter how good or bad stuff gets i fink he will be an honest reflection whats happening,worth keeping an eye on imo over the next few weeks


Or hes a glow in a dark :optimistic:
 
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Meanwhile, in the Opposition Formerly Known as Labour, the left eats itself.

Momentum have split into "Forward Momentum" and Momentum as reported over on Guido.

They think Momentum is too London Centric (lol, obviously) and that they want central money to "politically educate" people, but as they describe BoJo's Milquetoast government of being extreme right wing... might be worth teaching themselves first.


EDIT: Also, lol Shiela Oakes has vanished from her firm's website, and Siohan Thompson (Rick & Morty writer) now has a quarter of her wiki page dedicated to her controversy.
 
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I don't like Boris Johnson, as a politician or in general as a human being. But can you imagine what would happen if he dropped dead? The UK being without a Prime Minister in the middle of the biggest national emergency since WWII? Yes they'd probably cobble together a replacement and there's a clear chain of command, but the interregnum would be complete chaos at a time when we need our government to get its shit together. Whatever PM replaced him would be unelected and probably only an interim until whatever time we could hold a general election, which would be ages, weakening their authority and causing more problems. It would also foster a sense of national panic that not even Americans could match.

In fact if he did get preferential NHS treatment, I'm actually OK with that. I'm OK with the NHS making sure the country's elected leader is alive as a priority in a crisis, even if I don't think he's the right man for the job. The NHS needs to prioritise saving the most important people, those that the country needs to function, and in reality that means saving some people over others when we can only save so many. We NEED a Prime Minister right now, like we need healthcare workers, food distributors and pharmacists. Put those people to the front of the queue. We don't need, for example, Prince Charles, gobshite mayors of nowheresville or 3rd rate comedy writers.

Anyone who wants Boris dead cares more about settling their own political scores with him than the welfare of the entire country, and should be thrust off the nearest precipice providing that the Coof of Karma doesn't come for them first.
 
I don't like Boris Johnson, as a politician or in general as a human being. But can you imagine what would happen if he dropped dead? The UK being without a Prime Minister in the middle of the biggest national emergency since WWII? Yes they'd probably cobble together a replacement and there's a clear chain of command, but the interregnum would be complete chaos at a time when we need our government to get its shit together. Whatever PM replaced him would be unelected and probably only an interim until whatever time we could hold a general election, which would be ages, weakening their authority and causing more problems. It would also foster a sense of national panic that not even Americans could match.

In fact if he did get preferential NHS treatment, I'm actually OK with that. I'm OK with the NHS making sure the country's elected leader is alive as a priority in a crisis, even if I don't think he's the right man for the job. The NHS needs to prioritise saving the most important people, those that the country needs to function, and in reality that means saving some people over others when we can only save so many. We NEED a Prime Minister right now, like we need healthcare workers, food distributors and pharmacists. Put those people to the front of the queue. We don't need, for example, Prince Charles, gobshite mayors of nowheresville or 3rd rate comedy writers.

Anyone who wants Boris dead cares more about settling their own political scores with him than the welfare of the entire country, and should be thrust off the nearest precipice providing that the Coof of Karma doesn't come for them first.

There's actually a really good article about your feelings on this over on the excellent Unherd (A website I encourage people to take a look at as it's thought pieces with actual time and thought put into them) and how BoJo now represents the Body Politic for the whole of the UK. Basically he's already a symbol and now he's a bigger one for this damn disease too.
 
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