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I just left a friend's house about 15 minutes ago. He lives in a less gentrified neighborhood. When I showed up at 4pm, the neighbors at the end of the next block were having a birthday party in their back yard. Cars lined up and down the street. Over the last five hours, more people showed up and the music and party noises have only increased (at least they're playing classic soul and not rap). There's probably 30 people still back there now and it sounds like a bunch of monkeys mating.

It's pretty obvious that no one is following this stay at home order and no one is calling the cops to report this kind of thing. The guy I was visiting said there's no way he's calling because they'd all expect the cracker to be the snitch. I don't blame him.
 
Could any Medico/Science Kiwis explain some things?

I tried Google and I'm either particularly re.tar.ded or it's something that's not asked a lot outside of academic settings.

Are strains the same as serotypes? And is this the same thing as mutations?

I'm reading about the problems with the dengue vaccine (the four serotypes?) and trying to wrap my head around antibody dependant enhancement.
 
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More Twitter fuckery surrounding the virus...

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https://twitter.com/Robertfrank615/status/1249104289848594436 (https://archive.vn/1F6c2)

The deleted video:


Unfortunately I don't have an archive link for it, but there is this screenshot:
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He made a separate text post and a video post. Whats odd is they left the text post up:
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https://twitter.com/Robertfrank615/status/1249082031465734144 (https://archive.vn/lpm0V)

edit: I've been following this dude long enough to know he didn't delete the video in a bid to get attention like some of these attention whores would.
 
Outside China

1,690,344 confirmed / 105,359 dead / 324,393 recovered

1612013 / 99267 / 298311 yesterday

Iran

70,029 confirmed / 4,357 dead / 41,947 recovered

68192 / 4232 / 35465 yesterday

USA

529,740 confirmed / 20,506 dead / 31,988 recovered JohnHopkins
534,170 confirmed / 20,646 dead / 32,000 recovered Infection2020

499252 / 18637 / 28790 yesterday JohnHopkins
504576 / 18733 / 28837 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

163,027 confirmed / 16,606 dead / 59,109 recovered

158273 / 16081 / 55668 yesterday

Italy

152,271 confirmed / 19,468 dead / 32,534 recovered

147577 / 18849 / 30455 yesterday

France

130,727 confirmed / 13,851 dead / 26,671 recovered

125931 / 13215 / 25195 yesterday

Germany

125,452 confirmed / 2,871 dead / 57400 recovered

122171 / 2767 / 53913 yesterday

New Orleans dead (Orleans & Jefferson parish) last seven days

274 / 292 / 322 / 357 /382 / 390 / 398

New Orleans not looking too bad.
 
the residents of Michigan started an online petition to recall or otherwise get rid of their lunatic governor this morning. It passed 80,000 by lunchtime. When things explode, it’s going to be in Michigan. She seems the most incompetent of the 50 governors, and the one most meddling in people’s lives.
Think your right. I thought shit was going to pop off in NYC 1st but the cold and bad weather has kept things mostly at a low simmer. Also harsh enforcement only seems to be aimed at business owners and there is no real limiting of people's movement.

It seems like the michigan governor is just pushing peoples buttons hoping someone will snap and blow away a cop.
 
I wandered over to reddit earlier. Mistake. Posts and replies are either nutters saying it's all a hoax to cover for 5G or they're Perfect Citizens following every rule to the letter (by their own admission) wanting to call the gestapo because they spied an extra roll of toilet paper in their neighbors' garage. wtf.
 
I wandered over to reddit earlier. Mistake. Posts and replies are either nutters saying it's all a hoax to cover for 5G or they're Perfect Citizens following every rule to the letter (by their own admission) wanting to call the gestapo because they spied an extra roll of toilet paper in their neighbors' garage. wtf.

It's the result of a carefully moderated discussion environment. The only opinions allowed are the "correct" ones and the straw men. It's why /r/politics is considered a joke by everyone who doesnt post on /r/politics
 
It's the result of a carefully moderated discussion environment. The only opinions allowed are the "correct" ones and the straw men.

Doesn't Tencent have a huge stake in Reddit now or something? It could explain the (somehow) higher levels of autism coming from there.

Also something doesn't feel right about these numbers. IMO, I think they're being significantly underreported for both cases and deaths (lack of true testing, asymptomatic transmission, and a lack of testing the dead and/or not counting those that die in nursing homes). Although that's everywhere, so it's a worldwide issue. Some significantly more underreporting than others either due to willful ignorance, incompetence, or just being too poor to test.
 
It's the result of a carefully moderated discussion environment. The only opinions allowed are the "correct" ones and the straw men.

I suspected that, but it's still weird. I did get a bit of a giggle out of how many would admit to being outside but would tattle on the neighbors for... being outside?
 
I don't see anyone currently wielding power letting it go without a struggle.

Oh I do. Or at least without a full-scale rebellion/civil war. I think that they won't give it up before they have to, but you'll see more and more people who seem more and more reasonable violating the orders, and getting slapped with fines/arrests. Then eventually, it will be so many violators that the police will be overwhelmed like an Italian Hospital. At that point, having a sweeping yet completely unenforcable order will be plain embarrassing to the respective governors, at which point each of them will rescind the order in a press conference where they pat themselves on the ass for what a good job they did responding to the crisis.

More Twitter fuckery surrounding the virus...
edit: I've been following this dude long enough to know he didn't delete the video in a bid to get attention like some of these attention whores would.

I forget (in part because I only lurk Twatter). Is there a way to tell whether a deleted Tweet was deleted by a user or a moderator?
 
Doesn't Tencent have a huge stake in Reddit now or something? It could explain the (somehow) higher levels of autism coming from there.

Also something doesn't feel right about these numbers. IMO, I think they're being significantly underreported for both cases and deaths (lack of true testing, asymptomatic transmission, and a lack of testing the dead and/or not counting those that die in nursing homes). Although that's everywhere, so it's a worldwide issue. Some significantly more underreporting than others either due to willful ignorance, incompetence, or just being too poor to test.
Tencent has a $150,000,000 (~7.5%) stake in the company. The majority shareholder in Reddit seems to be Condé Nast, whoever they are.
 
I forget (in part because I only lurk Twatter). Is there a way to tell whether a deleted Tweet was deleted by a user or a moderator?

It's impossible to tell afaik. I use it to keep my finger on the pulse of a few hobbies but haven't ever posted or deleted any content. I know if you post something they don't like they can force you to delete it to regain access to your account. I've seen those messages posted by others before.
 
Depends on if and when state governments wake up to the problem. Easy to look at a map and see where the hot spots are. Better to rationalize their house arrests now than to do it after a great deal of rioting.

The way things are going, expect greatly increasing amounts of active and passive pushback starting on or about 1 May, if not sooner. The people running the states where the people are under house arrest simply don't seem to understand that no matter what happens, no lockdown, however draconian, will absolutely prevent the spread of the ChiCom Flu. Responsible leadership takes educated, calculated risks. Sadly, in my opinion this appears to be present only in eight or nine states and in the White House.

Who, exactly, in the United States, (aside from people under the auspices of the criminal justice system) is literally under house arrest? Or even figuratively?

Can somebody please shed light on this?
 
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