Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

The most he did was be incompetent and not check whoever made the coin, thus fucking his paypigs out of money. This is something reprehensible if you have ethics or want to actually grow as a business, but it's clear he only cares about greasing the paypigs for the million, rather than build the brand to tens of millions.
 
Pretty much.

Ethan's so bad ass he screams into the void for 15 unanswered posts in the comments section of a brand new YT channel with no subs.

Sperging on various commenters for not genuflecting to him and his homoerotic army of uber spergs.

To watch Ethan losing his shit is to find unparalleled pure joy.

Anyone can see he's a fraud if they just look. The fact that his followers can't see it only adds to the wonder of his tragic comedy.

It's like Shakespeare.

"Wherefore art though Ribbitcoin with your revolutionary coloring technique/sticker?"

Exit stage right in tears.

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That's some Tonkasaw exceptionalism there (was going to say Carl Benjamin but he probably would have chosen ridiculously long replies to a few comments).
 
That's some Tonkasaw exceptionalism there (was going to say Carl Benjamin but he probably would have chosen ridiculously long replies to a few comments).

He's the highest functioning sperg in his little hugbox and he's managed to fuck over thousands of "friends" to line his wallet. I'll give him that.

But end of the day he's a narcissistic sociopath who isn't quite as clever as he thinks.

If he were that smart he'd have never put himself in the Ribbitcoin situation.

'Paypigs in a poke'
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The most he did was be incompetent and not check whoever made the coin, thus fucking his paypigs out of money. This is something reprehensible if you have ethics or want to actually grow as a business, but it's clear he only cares about greasing the paypigs for the million, rather than build the brand to tens of millions.


Ignorance is the perfect defense in a criminal fraud case. As long as you tell the court you didn't know you were breaking the law, what can they do? Judges are very understanding people.
 
Ignorance is the perfect defense in a criminal fraud case. As long as you tell the court you didn't know you were breaking the law, what can they do? Judges are very understanding people.

Is that how it works? I mean, that kind of logic doesn't apply over to other types of criminal activity though. Guy doesn't know a gun could kill a person, he pulls the trigger on his friend. What happens?

Jokes aside though, is that really the case here, that it's an "accidental" fraud? (still doesn't change the fact that it's a fraud though. I don't remember being pardoned for unknowingly breaking the rules in my life for anything) Because two things could really happened here: Ethan knew it wasn't going to be 99.9% Silver, which mean's he's guilty of fraud but was stupid enough to not see this not come back to bite him in the ass, or he didn't, which means he's guilty of being an idiot conducting business the wrong way all the time, which still proves that he's not a trustworthy customer servicer. There's only so many "I'm still learning" and "I look to improve" he can throw around, whilst simultaneously bragging about how much money he makes, which just makes him look undeserved of any "success" he's found at all.
 
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Is that how it works? I mean, that kind of logic doesn't apply over to other types of criminal activity though. Guy doesn't know a gun could kill a person, he pulls the trigger on his friend. What happens?

Jokes aside though, is that really the case here, that it's an "accidental" fraud? (still doesn't change the fact that it's a fraud though. I don't remember being pardoned for unknowingly breaking the rules in my life for anything) Because two things could really happened here: Ethan knew it wasn't going to be 99.9% Silver, which mean's he's guilty of fraud but was stupid enough to not see this not come back to bite him in the ass, or he didn't, which means he's guilty of being an idiot conducting business the wrong way all the time, which still proves that he's not a trustworthy customer servicer. There's only so many "I'm still learning" and "I look to improve" he can throw around, whilst simultaneously bragging about how much money he makes, which just makes him look undeserved of any "success" he's found at all.


There's a third option. It could be that Ethan thought his pay pigs would line up to buy his shitty coins by the thousands. It had happened with all his previous campaigns so why not this one?

Then it didn't and Ethan was on the hook to deliver to a little over 100 customers with a break even that required maybe five times that.

He couldn't cancel the campaign and present the weakness of failure to his horde. That would be a disaster and put loser stink on all his future campaigns.

And he wasn't gonna take a loss. Fuck that. He's Ceasar after all.

What if he just used regular coins instead of silver and stickers instead of the coloring process? He'd save a bundle and eek out a nice little profit that way. The coins come in plastic cases no collector can open without ruining them and it's hard to say the coins are stickered instead of colored if they're still in the plastic.

His pay pigs are happy because they're none the wiser and he gets enough cash to buy some retarded Star Wars toy so he can relive some preadolescent fantasy shit from his arrested development.

Everybody "wins".

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Given his arrested development, I wouldn't find it weird either that Ethan's little imitation voices he makes of other people (that bitchy floaty ditzy feminine voice), along with his wig-wearing, and the possible theory that some people who oppose have put up that he might be CG Yakuza along with having other sock puppet accounts is his manifestation of managing a severe personality disorder. Probably got a couple of personalities in that head of his. Add to the fact that CG acts like a hivemind (ironic, since his frog book has him destroying wasps/bees), it's as if his malnourished personalities need to keep on spreading, to the point of infecting his paypigs to become his "legs and arms personalities" as well.

Or maybe I'm just spending too much time watching Jordan Peterson videos since YouTube keeps recommending me to it.
 
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It was slow in the making but the RibbitCoin project has yielded such a rich autism crop.
I've been laughing for three solid minutes just visualizing the scenario where EVS commits a federal crime involving commemorative frog coins in a scheme where the payoff is a giant Jabba the Hutt toy.
 

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Like typical EVS fashion, he took the time to get into another slapfight with QuarterPounder over Twitter. I got a bit lazy, so I didn't archive any of it.

Basically, what it boils down to is QuarterPounder made a statement that CG isn't growing awhile back in his previous slapfight where he cucked out, someone told him they can't wait for his apology video, he snaps back (possibly drunkenly), and the swarm of the hivemind that is CG began lambasting him so he would retract his statement by citing CF 2 campaign's numbers and that he was comparing 1 month's worth of campaign for the second book to 2 months of the first book. EVS says some shit about QuarterPounder not being his pal, and the horde has been dunking on him.

Aren't any of them factoring in that a lot of people are spending more money online more than ever since they are shut in their houses and can't spend on other shit as they normally would? That could be another potential explanation for the second book's growth, but the campaign hasn't ended yet, so it's a bit too soon to throw out a prediction. QuarterPounder isn't wrong though, in the sense that CG is shrinking in terms of returning customers. The horde is quick to flash the "look at how much money!" card at him. Not surprising. EVS is quick to take on the horde's fury though. Guess the Queen has to respond to the hive's call, which is a little retarded since this just began with some dumbass demanding QuarterPounder needs to apologize over it, causing him to double down on it stupidly. The guy gave a prediction, that's it. The fact that it escalated to a slapfight is beyond autistic.

It seems like the Rogue's Gallery for EVS is ever expanding, pretty sure his autists will use the same rhetoric he does "they just hate us cause we got success money!"
 
Like typical EVS fashion, he took the time to get into another slapfight with QuarterPounder over Twitter. I got a bit lazy, so I didn't archive any of it.

Basically, what it boils down to is QuarterPounder made a statement that CG isn't growing awhile back in his previous slapfight where he cucked out, someone told him they can't wait for his apology video, he snaps back (possibly drunkenly), and the swarm of the hivemind that is CG began lambasting him so he would retract his statement by citing CF 2 campaign's numbers and that he was comparing 1 month's worth of campaign for the second book to 2 months of the first book. EVS says some shit about QuarterPounder not being his pal, and the horde has been dunking on him.

Aren't any of them factoring in that a lot of people are spending more money online more than ever since they are shut in their houses and can't spend on other shit as they normally would? That could be another potential explanation for the second book's growth, but the campaign hasn't ended yet, so it's a bit too soon to throw out a prediction. QuarterPounder isn't wrong though, in the sense that CG is shrinking in terms of returning customers. The horde is quick to flash the "look at how much money!" card at him. Not surprising. EVS is quick to take on the horde's fury though. Guess the Queen has to respond to the hive's call, which is a little exceptional since this just began with some dumbass demanding QuarterPounder needs to apologize over it, causing him to double down on it stupidly. The guy gave a prediction, that's it. The fact that it escalated to a slapfight is beyond autistic.

It seems like the Rogue's Gallery for EVS is ever expanding, pretty sure his autists will use the same rhetoric he does "they just hate us cause we got success money!"

CF 2 is trending to make more money with fewer backers. He'll probably get around 750k (3/4 of CF 1) out of half the backers.

Funny thing Ethan and Richie were saying that the big two squeezing less fans for more money was bad for business just last year.


Also funny, Richie's squeezing his spergs for more money too and his backer count dropped even worse.

I guess they changed their minds about that being unsustainable and a harbinger of DOOOOOM!!!!!!

This time next year they'll be down 75% compared to 2018.

Apparently selling outrage & "hot dogs" at $30 each isn't sustainable long term.
 
It's an old story. One we've seen play out again and again.

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QuarterPounder is a cow, Ethan is a cow. Watching these two fat moo moo's slap their udders together in fits of rage while spilling the most sweetest of tard cum over the internet is glorious.

Anyone who watches Ethan knows he holds a grudge and The Quarter Pounder is a salty, passive-aggressive little bitch as well. I think we are watching their internet fwendship go up in smoke in real time. Even if QP cucks out like last time he had a disagreement with Ethan I think grudges will be held at least silently and each one will remain salty at the other.
 
Apparently selling outrage & "hot dogs" at $30 each isn't sustainable long term.

Outrage is the "hot dogs". You need to create slapfights to heat up the stove, and finally, burn a sacrificial cow to make meat out of it. CG just uses one of it's own that it plans to backstab and throw out as the cooking material. The comics are just the napkins to wipe your mouth with.

I don't think it's the $30 a book that's a problem. It's the damn page counts and the quality in these books, from the writing to the art that aren't even worth a penny. I don't know about you guys, but TPB where I live is priced at around $15-$30 (depending on the page count and the quality of binding and material used for pages) in bookstores (there's no LCS in the town I live, so I used to get my stock of comics by either shipping or going to the bookstores). These fuckers started out saying shit like "it's not a floppy, it's a gRaPhIc NoVeL", and that was a prominent defense RCM used when protecting the Queen about the fluting. It ain't a Novel if it doesn't reach over 100 pages. A short novel is called a novella, this ain't even it.
 
Quarter pounder is going to bitch out when he invites Ethan to a stream again. Like if he's going to whine how manipulative he is you shouldn't bend the knee and call him out the first time. The hotdog vendor model was a failure, instead you got order from a shitty weeb site international site and your order got stuck during the coronavirus and you won't get your order till late next year.
 
Outrage is the "hot dogs". You need to create slapfights to heat up the stove, and finally, burn a sacrificial cow to make meat out of it. CG just uses one of it's own that it plans to backstab and throw out as the cooking material. The comics are just the napkins to wipe your mouth with.

I don't think it's the $30 a book that's a problem. It's the damn page counts and the quality in these books, from the writing to the art that aren't even worth a penny. I don't know about you guys, but TPB where I live is priced at around $15-$30 (depending on the page count and the quality of binding and material used for pages) in bookstores (there's no LCS in the town I live, so I used to get my stock of comics by either shipping or going to the bookstores). These fuckers started out saying shit like "it's not a floppy, it's a gRaPhIc NoVeL", and that was a prominent defense RCM used when protecting the Queen about the fluting. It ain't a Novel if it doesn't reach over 100 pages. A short novel is called a novella, this ain't even it.
I'm glad you bring this up because I would like to have a serious discussion about the quality of Comicsgate's books and this thread does seem as good a place as any.

To date I've backed:
(2018.) Ravage, Jawbreakers: Lost Souls, Cyberfrog: Bloodhoney, Iron Sights, Red Rooster, Jack Irons, Stardust, Jungle Comics, Beatdown Girl, The Ferryman, Lonestar, Flying Sparks 1, Trumps Space Force, The Berserkonaut, Blue Mamba, Brand, Bigfoot Bill, The Ember War, Detective Dead, Brutas The Badass, Casefile: Arkham, Graveyard Shift, Black & White Remastered.

(2019) Trixie Cain: Blood Reaper, Lonestar 2, The Ferryman 2, Earthworm Jim, Starblades, Jawbreakers: Godking, Allegiance Arts Bundle: Futurists, Norahs Saga, Bass Reeves

(2020) Graveyard Shift 2 variant, Iron Sights 2 and Blade Devil.

I've also grabbed an assortment of non CG books including Preston Poulters White Lily series, Guinevere & The Divinity Factory, Brian Pullido's Lady Death collection and some manga called Danger Zone One all of which were in 2020 also.

If you look at my buying pattern, the bulk of my purchases were in 2018 when I still considered myself to be pro-CG. During 2019 I dropped off massively and stopped supporting a lot of the smaller creators due to the infighting during the Jon Del Arroz, Timothy Lim and Nerkish saga's. We are currently a third of the way through 2020 and I've backed more non-CG books than I have CG.

As for the books themselves I'll rank them how I see them:

VERY GOOD: Bigfoot Bill, Casefile: Arkham, The Futurists

GOOD: Lonestar 1, Flying Sparks 1, Black & White Remastered

OKAY: Jawbreakers: Lost Souls, The Ferryman 1, Trumps Space Force, Brand, The Ember War, Graveyard Shift 1, Jawbreakers: Godking,

LOUSY: Ravage, Cyberfrog: Bloodhoney, Jungle Comics, The Berserkonaut

COMPLETE DOG-SHIT: Iron Sights

UNREAD: Jack Irons, Stardust, Blue Mamba, Trixie Cain: Blood Reaper, Earthworm Jim, Norahs Saga, Bass Reeves,

UNDELIVERED: Red Rooster, Beatdown Girl, Detective Dead, Brutas The Badass, Lonestar 2, The Ferryman 2, Starblades, Graveyard Shift 2, Iron Sights 2, Blade Devil, White Lilly 1-4, Guinevere and the Divinity Factory 2, Lady Death 1-11, Danger Zone One

-Notice right away that four of the undelivered CG books are from 2018, nearly 2 years late. To be fair Jake Bihl who was formerly CG has contacted everyone within the last week about Beatdown Girl and it is currently being shipped.

-Across all 35 CG titles there are 6 purchases I rate as good, 12 less than good, with 17 unread or undelivered. Meaning that so far only 33% of currently read CG books average good or better.

-Some of the better rated CG books are from creators that no longer consider themselves to be CG. Doug TenNapel, Mike S Miller, Jon Del Arroz and Mitch Breitweiser (his stance is debatable.)

-Despite I acknowledge I am no longer pro-CG, I'm not quite anti-CG either as I have still backed CG creators after I stopped following Comicsgate eg: Richard C Meyer, Kyle Ritter, Jon Malin, Raging Golden Eagle.

-My rankings don't include other openly known terrible Comicsgate books (that I didn't back) including: Stealing Solo and the Littlest Umbrella. We can also safely assume that Wart the Wizard, Xenotype and probably Cash Grab are going to be sub-par products also.

All the above is just my opinion on the books I have read. I'd honestly like to hear the opinions of others on the Farms who have backed CG books and can offer any differing opinions or additional thoughts on the quality of the comics they have read so far.
 
I'm glad you bring this up because I would like to have a serious discussion about the quality of Comicsgate's books and this thread does seem as good a place as any.

To date I've backed:
(2018.) Ravage, Jawbreakers: Lost Souls, Cyberfrog: Bloodhoney, Iron Sights, Red Rooster, Jack Irons, Stardust, Jungle Comics, Beatdown Girl, The Ferryman, Lonestar, Flying Sparks 1, Trumps Space Force, The Berserkonaut, Blue Mamba, Brand, Bigfoot Bill, The Ember War, Detective Dead, Brutas The Badass, Casefile: Arkham, Graveyard Shift, Black & White Remastered.

(2019) Trixie Cain: Blood Reaper, Lonestar 2, The Ferryman 2, Earthworm Jim, Starblades, Jawbreakers: Godking, Allegiance Arts Bundle: Futurists, Norahs Saga, Bass Reeves

(2020) Graveyard Shift 2 variant, Iron Sights 2 and Blade Devil.

I've also grabbed an assortment of non CG books including Preston Poulters White Lily series, Guinevere & The Divinity Factory, Brian Pullido's Lady Death collection and some manga called Danger Zone One all of which were in 2020 also.

If you look at my buying pattern, the bulk of my purchases were in 2018 when I still considered myself to be pro-CG. During 2019 I dropped off massively and stopped supporting a lot of the smaller creators due to the infighting during the Jon Del Arroz, Timothy Lim and Nerkish saga's. We are currently a third of the way through 2020 and I've backed more non-CG books than I have CG.

As for the books themselves I'll rank them how I see them:

VERY GOOD: Bigfoot Bill, Casefile: Arkham, The Futurists

GOOD: Lonestar 1, Flying Sparks 1, Black & White Remastered

OKAY: Jawbreakers: Lost Souls, The Ferryman 1, Trumps Space Force, Brand, The Ember War, Graveyard Shift 1, Jawbreakers: Godking,

LOUSY: Ravage, Cyberfrog: Bloodhoney, Jungle Comics, The Berserkonaut

COMPLETE DOG-SHIT: Iron Sights

UNREAD: Jack Irons, Stardust, Blue Mamba, Trixie Cain: Blood Reaper, Earthworm Jim, Norahs Saga, Bass Reeves,

UNDELIVERED: Red Rooster, Beatdown Girl, Detective Dead, Brutas The Badass, Lonestar 2, The Ferryman 2, Starblades, Graveyard Shift 2, Iron Sights 2, Blade Devil, White Lilly 1-4, Guinevere and the Divinity Factory 2, Lady Death 1-11, Danger Zone One

-Notice right away that four of the undelivered CG books are from 2018, nearly 2 years late. To be fair Jake Bihl who was formerly CG has contacted everyone within the last week about Beatdown Girl and it is currently being shipped.

-Across all 35 CG titles there are 6 purchases I rate as good, 12 less than good, with 17 unread or undelivered. Meaning that so far only 33% of currently read CG books average good or better.

-Some of the better rated CG books are from creators that no longer consider themselves to be CG. Doug TenNapel, Mike S Miller, Jon Del Arroz and Mitch Breitweiser (his stance is debatable.)

-Despite I acknowledge I am no longer pro-CG, I'm not quite anti-CG either as I have still backed CG creators after I stopped following Comicsgate eg: Richard C Meyer, Kyle Ritter, Jon Malin, Raging Golden Eagle.

-My rankings don't include other openly known terrible Comicsgate books (that I didn't back) including: Stealing Solo and the Littlest Umbrella. We can also safely assume that Wart the Wizard, Xenotype and probably Cash Grab are going to be sub-par products also.

All the above is just my opinion on the books I have read. I'd honestly like to hear the opinions of others on the Farms who have backed CG books and can offer any differing opinions or additional thoughts on the quality of the comics they have read so far.

Since I first joined, I did state that I hadn't back any projects at all. I do have a friend who backed multiple campaigns, and he's shared with me PDF files that he scans and sends over every now and then (we share a lot of things, to help keep expenses low, like PS4 games and streaming services subscriptions since we used to live together as roommates, we got stuck to that habbit).

I can only rank based on what I've read that he's shared, but this is basically the bulk of what I think:

Iron Sights: 4/10
Jawbreakers - Lost Souls: 6.5/10
Jawbreakers - God King: 6/10
Cyberfrog: 5/10
My Hero MAGAdemia: 8/10 (this one has the advantage of winning more points from me due to the clear My Hero Academia reference)
Lonestar: 7/10
Graveyard Shift: 5/10
Stealing Solo: -1/10

It's ironic that the people who I think more highly are of are also no longer CG. I've got a couple of PDFs I still need to get through for such as The Futurist and Ravage, although I'm considering backing something Doug, Preston, or JDA's work since they're the ones I don't have any copies of anything of. Plus, they seem to conduct themselves much more professionally and appropriately, so that to me is a plus. Loud autistic cows tend to not be able to write good books. I felt like I was a little fooled by RCM's over the top yelling and passion (I'll admit that the guy seems to really appreciate comics), because I thought it was something an eccentric-type might do, but when I read his work (which to be honest, out of the three main figureheads I think of when I think of CG is usually EVS, RCM, and Jon Malin at this point. Cecil doesn't count because he's their cringy mascot), it's either he's the best out of the three, or the worst. I like the idea of the Jawbreakers, it actually is a decent idea that can span over multiple stories (I disregard the fact that he doesn't know much about literary techniques though, I just read it as he presents it: throwback to 90s action styled movies in the vain of The Expendables movies (something I gave a similar, if not a bit lower grading to his books), so I wasn't expecting much).

I think my conclusion is that the ones who are in CG right now, most of them don't know jack shit about writing a proper story, they're mostly just former artists who scribbled drawings, they didn't work on thinking hard ideas or read up on philosophy or studied literature. They know the history of comics, they know the narrative of things and what was considered "good" at a time, and some of them know how to draw. Problem is, none of them give a shit about what the writing mechanic actually is useful for. The one that comes close to that is RCM, and that's not saying much considering his taste in movies (and I'll say it here now: don't give two fucks about the "differences in medium" argument. If your story structure and script is good to great, it can be turned into any format and utilize that medium to it's benefit). The other person I almost backed was the small time YouTuber and CG advocate Professor Geek and his book Tales from the Stacks, because at least the dude's a real professor who writes and teaches mythology, and mythology and story-telling is closely related, so the guy knows his archetypes. His review of Cyberfrog made me cringe a little though. Literature Devil was another one I almost backed who seemed to be leaning towards trying to get CG bucks, but I find him a bit too pretentious and provocateur-wannabe (not surprisingly since his stream with him and Mauler basically resulted in him and Mauler unironically admitting indirectly that their criteria for "objectivity" is pretty much dependent on the person, meaning it's subjective).

I think people who don't do well on their first campaigns shouldn't get discouraged though. I'm the type of person who likes to sit it out and observe the creator I'm about to support first, since CG is supposedly found on the principle of merit, I have to hold the people who are by default, claiming to have it to that high standard too. If I find them to be despicable, it will often reflect on their works since art is a form of self expression, and so is writing, or rather, a way to express how layered you can be and how many types of ideas you can balance within yourself. Sometimes contradictory themes in a story is also welcomed, if it's an existential type of story, it usually shows me how deep of a thinker the person is, but also that they might be a self-sabotaging individual. Unless they're a mad genius who is much more sophisticated than I give them credit for since it will bound to show in their work, I probably won't back them. I have so many complaints that I wanted to vent at DC and Marvel for years since I was a kid already (I'm that annoying guy who questions a ton of shit about a movie when things don't make shit sense), so when I see that the major CG writers can't write up better shit or fall into the same traps, and sometimes more abysmally, I completely lose all my faith.

EDIT: I looked at Xenotype, and the thing seems like a vague attempt at ripping off Tokusatsu heroes and the Guyver manga/anime. Pass. Too try hard.
 
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Across all 35 CG titles there are 6 purchases I rate as good, 12 less than good, with 17 unread or undelivered. Meaning that so far only 33% of currently read CG books average good or better.
Honestly that percentage and @CapeKnight's ratings are higher than I expected. How would you rate them to the current Marvel/DC offerings?
 
My frustration with some artists is souring my enjoyment of some of their works. I like Jon Malin, but I think he's being an asshole over the Miller and TenNaple tiff, and he hasn't produced GYS2 yet because he chose to put his faith in foreign printers. I'm out of patience with Mike, I don't care about any of his projects.

I really have no problems with Doug, folks act like the two sides of the rift are equally bad, but I just haven't seen any malicious behavior from the guy. I never hear any of the language from him that is directed at him on every JACK show or CG stream. It's literally on every stream like some kind of TenNaple Derangement Syndrome, (TDS)

They can't not talk about him. He's being treated like ComicsGate's Goldstein with twitter raves about Doug being responsible for every faceplant that CG does from the Ribbit Coins scam, Preston's? lawsuit against Cecil for Defamation*, the War Campaign's criminal issues, Miller being upset over Ethan's love for Social Marxist Rainbow Deviancy. CG ostracizes and mocks all these people then acts like it's a conspiracy that they talk to eachother.



I've liked all the books I've received, but the question is do I like it enough to buy sequel? I've liked both Jawbreakers and Zack gets big time points for delivering in timely manner, he's earned my return business. I don't have super-high standards for entertainment, all art is basically worthless trash.

I'll be down for Battle Maiden 2 if it stays $15, Jawbreakers 3, and anything Doug puts out since my family enjoys his stories too.

*Maybe it was Edwin, and just a threat of suing? Someone was upset about the worms. Maybe I got two guys mixed up.
 
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