3rd paypal account speculations - Does PP Burnell have a hidden stash? Speculate here if you want to.

Bryan Dunn

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This thread is for speculation about whether burnellpp@yahoo.com is a 3rd unreported account. There are no indications this is true, but it cannot be discounted.

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Out of curiosity if you don't mind, what's your best guess?

A 3rd PayPal was found, it seems possible some fuckery is afoot. Phil is scummy so I don't think we should put anything past him.

My best guess is DSP has been hiding his funds since a detractor first asked him the words "Hey Phil, How much do you make a month?". DSP biggest fear is to be completely outted for all his lies and he has to face the worldpool of lies up front with a mob of people with pitchforks asking him why.

I dont just believe he has a third paypal account. I think this fucker stuffs money under his mattress and tells nobody, I mean NOBODY. I think he has so many skeletons in his closet that none of us could even think of thatd itd drive a man insane. DSP has the balls to lie to a JUDGE with a straight face and think he can outsmart everyone.


These type of things make me wish Pandalee just would do one livestream and reveal everything she ever saw or experienced while with DSP as a coup de grad to her finally moving on from the gout. Though, itll never happen sadly.
 
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My best guess is DSP has been hiding his funds since a detractor first asked him the words "Hey Phil, How much do you make a month?". DSP biggest fear is to be completely outted for all his lies and he has to face the worldpool of lies up front with a mob of people with pitchforks asking him why.

I dont just believe he has a third paypal account. I think this fucker stuffs money under his mattress and tells nobody, I mean NOBODY. I think he has so many skeletons in his closet that none of us could even think of thatd itd drive a man insane. DSP has the balls to lie to a JUDGE with a straight face and think he can outsmart everyone.


These type of things make me wish Pandalee just would do one livestream and reveal everything she ever saw or experienced while with DSP as a coup de grad to her finally moving on from the gout. Though, itll never happen sadly.

The idea the guy who can barely answer questions about his own bankruptcy filing and who spends money hand over fist while requesting his fans tip him so he can spend it faster is hiding some secret jew gold fortune is laughably retarded.

Where would the money even come from? What autistic conspiracy theory accounts for Phil's suitcase of cash buried in his 2x3 backyard?

Your idea falls apart at the starting gate where it assumes Phil possesses some ability to think and plan ahead. He doesn't. He has never exhibited this behavior. He bought the first condo his carpool mentioned they could sell him. He bought the first condo in WA that he could and he only picked that state because he misunderstood the Quora reply that was linked first when he googled 'does WA require taxes'.

Phil's ability to 'scam' ends at maybe not fully taxing his tips which isn't even super likely because he just dumps his bullshit on the H&R Block guy.

Also Phil's never even talked to the judge. And I seriously doubt Leanna would do anything but confirm the man's a simpleton.

Phil isn't some criminal mastermind like you have some weird fetish for pretending ever since BSV made you sad. He's streamer Joe Exotic, a sad little man who bumbles along on the back of being too pathetic to be worth anyones time until he eventually trips over his feet into actual trouble. Though Joe was a lot more successful in both life and love than Phil will ever be despite mostly doing shittons of meth.
 
The idea the guy who can barely answer questions about his own bankruptcy filing and who spends money hand over fist while requesting his fans tip him so he can spend it faster is hiding some secret one of Trump's Chosen People gold fortune is laughably exceptional.

Where would the money even come from? What autistic conspiracy theory accounts for Phil's suitcase of cash buried in his 2x3 backyard?

Your idea falls apart at the starting gate where it assumes Phil possesses some ability to think and plan ahead. He doesn't. He has never exhibited this behavior. He bought the first condo his carpool mentioned they could sell him. He bought the first condo in WA that he could and he only picked that state because he misunderstood the Quora reply that was linked first when he googled 'does WA require taxes'.

Phil's ability to 'scam' ends at maybe not fully taxing his tips which isn't even super likely because he just dumps his bullshit on the H&R Block guy.

Also Phil's never even talked to the judge. And I seriously doubt Leanna would do anything but confirm the man's a simpleton.

Phil isn't some criminal mastermind like you have some weird fetish for pretending ever since BSV made you sad. He's streamer Joe Exotic, a sad little man who bumbles along on the back of being too pathetic to be worth anyones time until he eventually trips over his feet into actual trouble. Though Joe was a lot more successful in both life and love than Phil will ever be despite mostly doing shittons of meth.

As angry as you are in this post(referencing me and bsv randomly, kudos) I guess ill say that yes, hes bad with money but I doubt he doesnt think he can outsmart everyone and do shady shit constantly. Just because he is horrible with money doesn't mean he doesn't scheme with it.

Also, autist, I dont literally think he stuffs money under his mattress. Read between the lines. It's a metaphor.

I think dsp hides things all the time. That hes paranoid and keeps his financial side secret as much as possible and funnels things to various different accounts. I mean, he makes enough to be half a million in debt.
 
One thing I could believe is that Phil has his secret paypigs that give him money "behind the scenes" and he could possibly be hiding that. Other than that, I think the bankruptcy debunked whatever conspiracies have been concocted. Allowing all this information to us is about the last thing Phil wanted. Phil is just really terrible with money and wastes thousands upon thousands on dumb shit.
 
As angry as you are in this post(referencing me and bsv randomly, kudos) I guess ill say that yes, hes bad with money but I doubt he doesnt think he can outsmart everyone and do shady shit constantly. Just because he is horrible with money doesn't mean he doesn't scheme with it.

Also, autist, I dont literally think he stuffs money under his mattress. Read between the lines. It's a metaphor.

I think dsp hides things all the time. That hes paranoid and keeps his financial side secret as much as possible and funnels things to various different accounts. I mean, he makes enough to be half a million in debt.

How and why would Phil be funneling money into unlisted accounts when he not only spends every nickel and dime he makes but has also managed to max out credit cards?

Phil's the kinda guy where he gets $3k in tips and the next day he's at the top of a Champions event having spent $3k for wrasslin points.

He's not pulling a fast one on anyone. The concept of saving money literally doesn't exist for him. He owns a thousand dollars in Keurigs when he doesn't drink coffee.
 
My best guess is DSP has been hiding his funds since a detractor first asked him the words "Hey Phil, How much do you make a month?". DSP biggest fear is to be completely outted for all his lies and he has to face the worldpool of lies up front with a mob of people with pitchforks asking him why.

I dont just believe he has a third paypal account. I think this fucker stuffs money under his mattress and tells nobody, I mean NOBODY. I think he has so many skeletons in his closet that none of us could even think of thatd itd drive a man insane. DSP has the balls to lie to a JUDGE with a straight face and think he can outsmart everyone.


These type of things make me wish Pandalee just would do one livestream and reveal everything she ever saw or experienced while with DSP as a coup de grad to her finally moving on from the gout. Though, itll never happen sadly.

Phil is not some scheming mastermind. He's a completely inept, flaccid chode of a human being. He's clearly not hiding away money -- that would imply an ability to plan for the future and also to delay gratification, two behaviors which he's shown himself strictly incapable of. He's spending it all as he gets it.

See, his life is boring as shit. We know what he does for almost all of his waking hours - when he's not e-whoring to autistic children on twitch, he sits at home blowing his money on gacha and watching wrasslin'. The few minutes he spends with Kat its to whine about detractors and ask mommy to cook food. There's literally nothing else going on. He doesn't have friends or family who give a shit about him. There's no skeletons in his closet other than disgusting overspending on the stupidest shit imaginable, showing a complete lack of financial & actual maturity.
 
Out of curiosity if you don't mind, what's your best guess?

A 3rd PayPal was found, it seems possible some fuckery is afoot. Phil is scummy so I don't think we should put anything past him.
I could see Phil doing weird schemes, but I'm not sure if he would plan it out very well. If it involved Fred I don't trust the origin of said PayPal.
 
One thing I could believe is that Phil has his secret paypigs that give him money "behind the scenes" and he could possibly be hiding that. Other than that, I think the bankruptcy debunked whatever conspiracies have been concocted. Allowing all this information to us is about the last thing Phil wanted. Phil is just really terrible with money and wastes thousands upon thousands on dumb shit.
Yeah, I always thought dave had to be lying about being broke, he had to have a couple hundred grand in the bank easy. How can he be making 100k a year (and probably more in the beginning) and be broke? Then I thought, maybe he has a drug problem? That would explain where the money is going, and his nasal issues. Little did I know he's just that irresponsible with money.
 
People need to stop shitting on @Bryan Dunn, I asked him for his opinion because he had a good point.

We all agree that Phil is a fucking retard, I don't think anyone is trying to argue otherwise. Yet it surely cannot be beyond the realm of possibility that with all the different sources Phil uses to gain income, he would try and hide some of it. At the end of the day, even Nancy seems to think so.

I agree with what FredFuchs was thinking, and what Bryan said.
My theory is that people like Planet Jeff gave him money behind the scenes, and continue to do so. Phil said he talks with them via emails, so I wouldn't put it past him to give them some special donation method like maybe a 3rd PayPal account.
 
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I usually don't subscribe to what Bryan says but when he speaks about Phil he is usually bang on it and tbh Fred stole most of what Bryan theorised. I definitely have a feeling there is a third paypal in operation because his reaction with certain paypigs is so weird and not even forced. Phil is an incredibly neurotic person and with how he talks with Jeff and GoldenCotes especially you can detect there is some weird dependency / "friendship" that is forced there. Fuck even Deryk if I had to bet things, its how he spots them in the chat too like he is primed for them.

Phil would be exceptionally dumb because he just committed a major Federal offence. I would not be surprised if that is why the report is taking so long. Also subpoenas do take some time to process and may not initially appear on the Pacer until their filing is complete.

I definitely think Nancy is going to subpoena him, it is something she can do and I feel she feels she will have to even us lurkers do not get Phil's finances especially me, how can you spend over 100k a year have no material possessions, fuck even use it to pay of your house quicker. It may be possible he just feigns this and is sitting on it. Would be utterly retarded but its Phil.
 
People need to stop shitting on @Bryan Dunn, I asked him for his opinion because he had a good point.

We all agree that Phil is a fucking exceptional individual, I don't think anyone is trying to argue otherwise. Yet it surely cannot be beyond the realm of possibility that with all the different sources Phil uses to gain income, he would try and hide some of it. At the end of the day, even Nancy seems to think so.

I agree with what FredFuchs was thinking, and what Bryan said.
My theory is that people like Planet Jeff gave him money behind the scenes, and continue to do so. Phil said he talks with them via emails, so I wouldn't put it past him to give them some special donation method like maybe a 3rd PayPal account.
It's entirely possible that people are giving Phil gifts behind-the-scenes. There's what Phil erroneously calls gifts which is actually just income for him and then there are actual gifts where people would be giving Phil a chunk of money (up to $13K annually according to current tax code iirc) which the gifter pays the taxes on, it still gets reported on both of their taxes but to the recipient it's a tax free transfer.

I assume his parents do this routinely like when they bail him out on his taxes. Other people could be too I guess, I just don't imagine that many fans have ever been willing to go through the hassle of paying the tax liability on the money they give to Phil and sending him the paperwork so he knows what amount of his income to file as gifts. It's certainly possible, I just see it as very unlikely, and since I can think of like one fan who might be doing this currently it's probably a non-issue when considering his finances as a whole.
 
People need to stop shitting on @Bryan Dunn, I asked him for his opinion because he had a good point.

We all agree that Phil is a fucking exceptional individual, I don't think anyone is trying to argue otherwise. Yet it surely cannot be beyond the realm of possibility that with all the different sources Phil uses to gain income, he would try and hide some of it. At the end of the day, even Nancy seems to think so.

I agree with what FredFuchs was thinking, and what Bryan said.
My theory is that people like Planet Jeff gave him money behind the scenes, and continue to do so. Phil said he talks with them via emails, so I wouldn't put it past him to give them some special donation method like maybe a 3rd PayPal account.
I'll agree some of his whales & banned paypigs are talking with him behind the scenes. The whales like Planet Jeff and others I could see him having them donate to a 3rd PayPal. I asked Bryan to confirm the 3rd PayPal and he brought with it some lore. He's usually someone good with odd Phil stuff.

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How and why would Phil be funneling money into unlisted accounts when he not only spends every nickel and dime he makes but has also managed to max out credit cards?

Phil's the kinda guy where he gets $3k in tips and the next day he's at the top of a Champions event having spent $3k for wrasslin points.

He's not pulling a fast one on anyone. The concept of saving money literally doesn't exist for him. He owns a thousand dollars in Keurigs when he doesn't drink coffee.
Phil's a retard, sure, but he had enough intelligence to find a way to other exploit retards in youtube and on other places on the internet. I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to think that he's capable of being intelligently scummy enough to do something else.
 
Remember that one time the detractor emailed him and he oddly mentioned sending western union. It's possible PlanetJeff isn't sending his behind scenes tips through paypal but rather western union. Of course that is pure speculation. He could still have some money from old days that he just hoards and refuses to spend. Whatever is going on Nancy will figure it out.
 
The idea the guy who can barely answer questions about his own bankruptcy filing and who spends money hand over fist while requesting his fans tip him so he can spend it faster is hiding some secret one of Trump's Chosen People gold fortune is laughably exceptional.

Where would the money even come from? What autistic conspiracy theory accounts for Phil's suitcase of cash buried in his 2x3 backyard?

Your idea falls apart at the starting gate where it assumes Phil possesses some ability to think and plan ahead. He doesn't. He has never exhibited this behavior. He bought the first condo his carpool mentioned they could sell him. He bought the first condo in WA that he could and he only picked that state because he misunderstood the Quora reply that was linked first when he googled 'does WA require taxes'.

Phil's ability to 'scam' ends at maybe not fully taxing his tips which isn't even super likely because he just dumps his bullshit on the H&R Block guy.

Also Phil's never even talked to the judge. And I seriously doubt Leanna would do anything but confirm the man's a simpleton.

Phil isn't some criminal mastermind like you have some weird fetish for pretending ever since BSV made you sad. He's streamer Joe Exotic, a sad little man who bumbles along on the back of being too pathetic to be worth anyones time until he eventually trips over his feet into actual trouble. Though Joe was a lot more successful in both life and love than Phil will ever be despite mostly doing shittons of meth.
He's the DB Cooper of paypal.
 
I don't disagree at all that Phil gets money behind the scenes or that he possibly claims it as gifts to not pay taxes on it.

My issue is with people theorizing he has a super secret account overflowing with rainy day funds.

Assuming Phil is playing the long con is one of the oldest traps to fall into in pig watching.

He spends every last dime he makes, racks up CCs, and then pays the minimums before spending every new dime he makes.

Its much more likely he has multiple emails per account than it is he has a mystery hoard.
 
I'm on my phone right now, but to clean this thread up and separate the stuff, I'll make a thread for speculation about the 3rd PayPal account. I personally don't think there's anything to it, but a little irresponsible speculation never hurt.
 
I don't disagree at all that Phil gets money behind the scenes or that he possibly claims it as gifts to not pay taxes on it.

My issue is with people theorizing he has a super secret account overflowing with rainy day funds.

Assuming Phil is playing the long con is one of the oldest traps to fall into in pig watching.

He spends every last dime he makes, racks up CCs, and then pays the minimums before spending every new dime he makes.

Its much more likely he has multiple emails per account than it is he has a mystery hoard.

I believe he spends almost all of it as fast as he gets it but that, due to his paranoia, he most likely has a third account of sorts that he transfer his money too because "a detractor is gonna hack my funds one day!".

I think after the outting of his wwe championship addiction spending, its less of a third savings account and more of a transfer & click account of you get my meaning.
 
I believe he spends almost all of it as fast as he gets it but that, due to his paranoia, he most likely has a third account of sorts that he transfer his money too because "a detractor is gonna hack my funds one day!".

I think after the outting of his wwe championship addiction spending, its less of a third savings account and more of a transfer & click account of you get my meaning.

That makes a lot more sense. When put that way I feel bad for accusing you of assuming he's capable of actual fraud (only a little).

We do know he transfers all his money out immediately from both paypals but I think its to a bank account, since Nancy could see the cash coming out and didnt ask where it was going (so she must have a bank account showing deposits and then the cash leaving from there).

I imagine one click pay is set up to a card so its probably going to that one.
 
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