Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

Been lurking here three days. And I hate it, here but, shit needs to be said about these fuckers.

Also I have DID. Didn't seek diagnosis, it happened by accident when there for something else. No details, nobody's business. Just, one piece of info to show she's not fooling people with the disorder she claims to have.

Discovered Chloe ten or so years after and boy what a trainwreck. One minute she's all "yep we have perfect communication and can film videos together and specific alters can film videos themselves with no prob." The next it's "we switch four times in 20 minutes or something."

Also - DID is a HIDDEN DISORDER. Multiplicity and Me (discovered same time as Chloe) did a whole video on it. (I believe M&M by the way.) Showing how all the alters (as well defined and formed as they are) PRETEND TO BE JESS (host) in public even when just alone with Jess's husband.

Meanwhile you have the N&Ns out there at the zoo or wherever they were like YES LET'S SWITCH 50 TIMES IN ONE VIDEO AND NOT PRETEND TO BE THE "HOST" AT ALL LET'S JUST BE LITTLES AND SHIT, IN PUBLIC WOOHOO THIS ISN'T UNSAFE OR WEIRD AT ALL HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA.

Also when I first discovered Pinatas channel I just thought, dude, no. This can't be real. They're not real. This ... is pretend.

And has anyone seen their creepy ass video where it's the little alter being interviewed? Sadie or something? Creepiest thing I ever watched about a year or two ago and just ... no.

I only discovered this group because some HanAlex or something showed up in my recommend for legit NO FUCKING REASON and I thought "well sure, I have that, let's watch" and I fell down a hole.

What's her face who showed up in my recommended also had her channel bought by a music company or something which proves she was probably faking it too. There are very few systems I believe online. They're so.....eh. Makes me uncomfortable for no reason which is never a good sign right? It's like when you know you're in a room with a psychopath but don't know who it is.
If you've been reading everything, what do you not understand about hiding your powerlevel?
No one cares you have DID.
 
Been lurking here three days. And I hate it, here but, shit needs to be said about these fuckers.

Also I have DID. Didn't seek diagnosis, it happened by accident when there for something else. No details, nobody's business. Just, one piece of info to show she's not fooling people with the disorder she claims to have.

Warning you're about to powerlevel is still powerleveling. In case you didn't pick that up in your entire 3 days of lurking.

E: Sniped twice in a row, thanks King. :lit:
 
From what I can gather, one of Nan's teenage alters (Evan?) propositioned Sam for sex. Sam agreed. Nan called rape.
I looked and looked but I think that video has been permanently removed from YouTube. From my best recollection she made a video talking about how they were violated and what happened was absolutely not okay. And that it was real trauma and abuse. Alluding to the Sam/Evan situation. I only knew this guy’s name is Sam because I just watched through a video with Evan talking about how he enjoyed being with someone he called Sam while fronting.

This was all around the time she moved to Missouri to stay with friends and sliced herself up in a suicide attempt, went to the ER and a psych hospital and ended up homeless in the middle of winter because the people she was staying with no longer felt safe with her in their home. Fucked up shit, man.

Also, I think the video of her alters comparing sneezes is also gone from what is currently available. Also the one of Jeremy talking about recovering from how sick they got while homeless.
 
I looked and looked but I think that video has been permanently removed from YouTube. From my best recollection she made a video talking about how they were violated and what happened was absolutely not okay. And that it was real trauma and abuse. Alluding to the Sam/Evan situation. I only knew this guy’s name is Sam because I just watched through a video with Evan talking about how he enjoyed being with someone he called Sam while fronting.

This was all around the time she moved to Missouri to stay with friends and sliced herself up in a suicide attempt, went to the ER and a psych hospital and ended up homeless in the middle of winter because the people she was staying with no longer felt safe with her in their home. Fucked up shit, man.

Also, I think the video of her alters comparing sneezes is also gone from what is currently available. Also the one of Jeremy talking about recovering from how sick they got while homeless.

I've got all of those archived. I'll upload a few more in the next few days. I've already uploaded the sneezing video. I've got the Disney video archived too and that seems to be missing from her channel.

Sam was mentioned regularly for a while and appeared in some of Nan's artwork I think I've archived too. He's a fairly significant character in Nan lore.
 
Why do you still have DID if you've been in therapy for 10 years?
Mental illness doesn't go away truly. It's like a chronic illness such as Crohn's or Psoriasis. You can get it under control, maybe even in remission (like integration or falling out of qualification for the criteria), but the mind is never truly 'cured' of a mental illness. It can flare up again, however, after 10 years of therapy I would sure hope your case has improved and you've started working towards integration. If someone doesn't show any improvement at all within a year, that's a red flag for professionals. Especially since DID is shown to make great strides towards integration within a year to 18 months.
 
Mental illness doesn't go away truly. It's like a chronic illness such as Crohn's or Psoriasis. You can get it under control, maybe even in remission (like integration or falling out of qualification for the criteria), but the mind is never truly 'cured' of a mental illness. It can flare up again, however, after 10 years of therapy I would sure hope your case has improved and you've started working towards integration. If someone doesn't show any improvement at all within a year, that's a red flag for professionals. Especially since DID is shown to make great strides towards integration within a year to 18 months.

I don't agree that all mental disorders are chronic permanent. Some are resolved simply by aging.

Can you share evidence of real cases that have lasted more than a couple of years with consistent treatment? Every professional I've spoken with says that with treatment it resolves within 12-18 months, and rarely within 3 years with some of the worst trauma they've seen. The only cases of symptom relapse I've read were because the patient ceased treatment before it was finished.
 
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I don't agree that all mental disorders are chronic. Some are resolved simply by aging.

Can you share evidence of real cases that have lasted more than a couple of years with consistent treatment? Every professional I've spoken with says that with treatment it resolves within 12-18 months, and rarely within 3 years with some of the worst trauma they've seen. The only cases of symptom relapse I've read were because the patient ceased treatment before it was finished.

It's recovery, not cure. Treatment 'resolves' as in resolves the impairments and distress mental illness creates in a person's life. The mental illness is still there, you just learn to cope and live with it. Medication, lifestyle changes, and keeping up healthy coping skills are important things that can be done. Recovery is something that takes forever though, however, keeping up with your treatment plan and making sure you recognize the signs of relapse are important.

[healthdirect.gov, healthyplace.com (written by mentally ill individual), power2u.org (rehabilitation vs empowerment view of recovery), NAMI.org)

Aging can improve a mental illness as with age comes maturity and the potential for stability. When you get older, have a much more stable job, have paid of your student loans, have a house, and are much more independent, you have fewer stressors to be affecting your mental health. Especially since once puberty is finished there are significantly less hormones to cause irrationality, impulsivity, emotional distress. It also can be from a partner. When somebody with antisocial personality traits marries a partner without those traits, they are more likely to develop more prosocial behaviors from their partner. Same for BPD and many other disorders.

I think many people like to use 'cure' as a term because it's more powerful than 'recovery'. Cure is a permanent solution and recovery is a process.
 
It's recovery, not cure.

I knew you were going to go down this road, but I never said cure. I said resolve. That's why I changed the term that you chose, chronic, and struck it for permanent.

Again, can you please share evidence of real cases of DID that either recurred after resolved, or, took more than 3-4 years to resolve with consistent treatment?

Actually, I don't care, as if this person thinks Multiplicity & Me actually has DID, then I don't believe they have DID anyway.
 
It was this one:


A woman named Ellie expressed everything that was wrong with what Nan has done/said, including from her livestream, and stated she needed distance from the community because of the cult-like mentality of the members attacking everyone who had an issue with the CP.



None of it is anyone's business and we don't want to know. You don't need to tell everyone you have DID as that doesn't make your opinion more valid than everyone else's.



Why do you still have DID if you've been in therapy for 10 years?



DID is a hidden disorder, yet you feel the need to tell a bunch of strangers you have it. Funny how that works.

There are no well defined and formed alters pretending to be Jess. Multiple personality disorder was REMOVED from the DSM and the ICD because it is NOT A REAL DISORDER.

(I'm legit probably doing this wrong. Sorry lol)

Ellie's video is back up. Earlier concerns about the person in the comments with POCD made sense & links to the archived blog are no longer available in the comments to keep potential creeps from continuing to look at it. Also Ellie's sorry for coming off like a bottom bitch.

While there wasn't much hate on the video, she did get a few weird emails regarding the situation and needed a few hours to re-evaluate involvement.

I'll butt out of y'all's community now. Thanks for talking about this shit.
 
I knew you were going to go down this road, but I never said cure. I said resolve. That's why I changed the term that you chose, chronic, and struck it for permanent.

It's on me that I jumped to conclusions about what you meant. I'm sorry for that.

Back to the cows in question, how long do you guys think we'll have to wait for Chloe's return to YouTube? Will it be a tantrum/cry fest over the things people have dug up about her? Or will she just literally ignore everything?
 
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Back to the cows in question, how long do you guys think we'll have to wait for Chloe's return to YouTube? Will it be a tantrum/cry fest over the things people have dug up about her? Or will she just literally ignore everything?
I'm not sure. I say it goes one of two ways: she either has a complete fucking meltdown and loses her shit (100% would be accompanied by some other classic HPD or BPD attention seeking behavior) or she doesn't address anything, pretends it never even happens, and goes back to her usual fake ass oppressed bullshit she's been doing for the past two years and gets propped up by her cult of brain dead 13 year olds who worship everything she does.
 
hopefully taking into account the criticism she’s gotten for how she publicly handled all that
I am 100% sure there is no chance in hell she owns up for attention seeking/ essentially faking a suicide attempt for sympathy. That would require her to admit a mistake, which up until now I don't think Chloe has ever done publicly (correct me if I'm wrong) She has to appear as the victim or her followers might gain sentience. If she does make a suicide video she will milk the shit out of that for sympathy points. Borderline-munchie ass smh.
 
It's on me that I jumped to conclusions about what you meant. I'm sorry for that.

Back to the cows in question, how long do you guys think we'll have to wait for Chloe's return to YouTube? Will it be a tantrum/cry fest over the things people have dug up about her? Or will she just literally ignore everything?

Hmm. It's really hard to say. I feel like she'll have to acknowledge the s*u**c*de** stuff. Jade might stare us down while vaguely denouncing the "vicious rumors."

I'm not sure Nan will ever fully recover her reputation from this. I'm kind of pleased by the number of people I've seen sticking by their guns and calling her instagram live explanation garbage. Right now, they're saying they don't blame Chloe, that she was definitely blindsided by this as well. I guess they missed her encouraging comments in the live. I'm curious to see if Chloe will drop Nan for the sake of her own career.

Also curious to see what kind of ripples this makes. I've seen people less than thrilled with DID Mom and Fragmented Psyche, and I know those two were popular. Chloe and Nan are at at the epicenter of a schism in the community right now, and I don't think either of them have the empathy required to apologize and take responsibility without, at the very least, being super passive aggressive about it.

I'm gonna go ahead and put my money down on a video that's half righteous anger and half sympathy ploy. Maybe Chloe will still be too weak to be on camera and it'll be Kyle or Jade.
 
I think it'll be a while before we see Chloe on camera. I can see her doing a similar livestream scenario in which she stirs her fans up into a frenzy. I think she's too calculated to post a video on her main channel as she won't want to draw the casual viewers attention to the scandal. She'll drop hints as to what has gone on in her videos. We'll have a lot of the stiff jaw and angry eyes. Lots of jump cuts. Her fans are going to love it. It'll be another ploy for sympathy. She'll never truly address what Nan has done or what she has done. It'll be our community has been attacked and that'll be all if we get any acknowledgement at all. Oh, and it'll end with I'm going to go, I'm feeling switchy... maybe a surprise appearance from a new alter or new fan favourite Dark.
 
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