3rd paypal account speculations - Does PP Burnell have a hidden stash? Speculate here if you want to.

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how long until Bryan tries to make this into a youtube video for his big comeback?

I didn't make this thread, @actually did. He also messed up and didnt link the correct start of this conversation. Which was @Nigel of Ukip not myself. Also

>Imagine assuming I want to cater to this type of autistic sociopathic audience again

Just take it to my thread, I am sure those 4 or 5 same posters who hate me will cater to the idea.
 
You'll actually get a message saying the email is not valid if it isn't associated with an apple id.

I just confirmed which version is (probably) correct with haveibeenpwned.com. ppburnell@yahoo.com returns nothing. burnellpp@yahoo.com returns 4 hits, including one associated with XSplit from 2013. Phil used XSplit prior to OBS, right?
 
There's nothing to outright prove he doesn't have a 3rd PayPal account, but I'm not sure what Phil would gain from having it, unless he was trying to commit some kind of financial fraud. Given his current situation and all the examples of Phil being an idiot with finances, it seems incredibly unlikely.

If he's doing behind the scenes transactions, which I do think is a strong possibility, he doesn't need a secret 3rd account. He only wants to hide those because it doesn't support his begging narrative if people see how much money he's actually making. That's why with Tut and the like, he was frantically trying to spin why getting thousands of dollars was actually a bad thing for him and how it meant he actually needed even more money.

The main reason I don't think Phil has a 3rd PayPal account is how lazy he is, even when it comes to financial stuff. He was too lazy/stupid to setup an Amazon wishlist for the longest time, and even when he did and was actively getting stuff, he couldn't keep up with it. Same deal with his Patreon, that's basically free money for him but he barely puts any effort into it. He was also too lazy to rent out his apartment because it would involve having to talk to someone on the phone.

If Phil were doing behind the scenes stuff, which again, I think is a strong possibility, he'd be just as lazy about it as he is with all of his other ventures. He'd just tell them to send it to his standard PayPal so it was one less site he had to login to or setup to automatically have his money withdrawn. I also don't think he's doing that much behind the scenes stuff. Most of his paypigs want the attention associated with sending money, that's why they do it while he's streaming. Even when they do it outside of Twitch, they tend to bring it up in chat, mentioning that they bought a game or controller or whatever from the wishlist. There are some paypigs that I think are afraid of being doxed, Jeff being a prime contender for that. Even if there's one or two other people trying to donate anonymously outside of streams, I can't imagine it would amount to that much money, certainly not enough to justify (in Phil's mind) all the extra effort of setting up a 3rd PayPal account.

The other potential issue is the email might be associated with a PayPal account, but that doesn't mean it is a new account. I just checked on my account, if you add a secondary email address, you can use that email to login to your account. If Phil was trying to consolidate everything under one email after his password leaked, he could have made the new account and linked it to his existing PayPal.
 
Does Paypal themselves generate a 1099 for you? Usually a 1099 has two parts, one for the entity and one for the government.

When I generated 1099s for clients at year end one file was used to print 1099s for clients and the other was sent to the government.

But Paypal might not do that since they aren't the ones actually paying you.


Edit: according to paypal: https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp...rs-will-i-receive-a-1099-tax-statement-faq729

They send the IRS a 1099 automatically of you exceed the thresholds. But if Phil had an account just for special donations he probably wouldnt hit the threshold.
Not sure how his repeated immediate withdrawal of funds hasn't trigger a suspicious activity report.
 
There's nothing to outright prove he doesn't have a 3rd PayPal account, but I'm not sure what Phil would gain from having it, unless he was trying to commit some kind of financial fraud. Given his current situation and all the examples of Phil being an idiot with finances, it seems incredibly unlikely.

If he's doing behind the scenes transactions, which I do think is a strong possibility, he doesn't need a secret 3rd account. He only wants to hide those because it doesn't support his begging narrative if people see how much money he's actually making. That's why with Tut and the like, he was frantically trying to spin why getting thousands of dollars was actually a bad thing for him and how it meant he actually needed even more money.

The main reason I don't think Phil has a 3rd PayPal account is how lazy he is, even when it comes to financial stuff. He was too lazy/stupid to setup an Amazon wishlist for the longest time, and even when he did and was actively getting stuff, he couldn't keep up with it. Same deal with his Patreon, that's basically free money for him but he barely puts any effort into it. He was also too lazy to rent out his apartment because it would involve having to talk to someone on the phone.

If Phil were doing behind the scenes stuff, which again, I think is a strong possibility, he'd be just as lazy about it as he is with all of his other ventures. He'd just tell them to send it to his standard PayPal so it was one less site he had to login to or setup to automatically have his money withdrawn. I also don't think he's doing that much behind the scenes stuff. Most of his paypigs want the attention associated with sending money, that's why they do it while he's streaming. Even when they do it outside of Twitch, they tend to bring it up in chat, mentioning that they bought a game or controller or whatever from the wishlist. There are some paypigs that I think are afraid of being doxed, Jeff being a prime contender for that. Even if there's one or two other people trying to donate anonymously outside of streams, I can't imagine it would amount to that much money, certainly not enough to justify (in Phil's mind) all the extra effort of setting up a 3rd PayPal account.

The other potential issue is the email might be associated with a PayPal account, but that doesn't mean it is a new account. I just checked on my account, if you add a secondary email address, you can use that email to login to your account. If Phil was trying to consolidate everything under one email after his password leaked, he could have made the new account and linked it to his existing PayPal.
I agree that it's unlikely he's using another Paypal account for secret donations. If that ever got leaked he would be in a world of shit with the IRS and his other paypigs. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if he made an exception for the cream of the crop paypigs like PlanetJeff.

How interesting this third account is, if there even is one, will depend on the degree of obfuscation that Phil applied to his mobile game expenses. I'm reasonably certain that Phil was able to get his desired income to qualify for Chapter 7 by fraudulently classifying a large portion of his tips income as a business expense. That large portion of tips probably coincides with the amount the spends on mobile games. How did he do that? Does he use the same Paypal account he uses for tips to do all his mobile game transactions directly? Does he transfer a portion to gift cards or prepaid credit cards? Does he transfer a portion to another Paypal account specifically for personal expenses? If Phil is as addicted to mobile games as it seems, then it's unlikely he could even show the restraint necessary to transfer funds to different cards / accounts. He would just want to start rolling the dice as soon as he possibly could.

Most of this discussion is redundant anyway. The only reason it's interesting is because it would aid the trustee in separating Phil's personal gaming expenses from the business-related expenses. But there is a far easier way for the trustee to do that, she just has to request the payment history of Phil's gaming accounts because he buys everything digitally. Everything that shows up on Steam, PSN, Xbox Live and the Nintendo services can be qualified as a business expense. The rest is personal
 
So here's a hypothetical. Let's say Dave really does have a third Paypal account, and he uses it only to collect money from top paypigs, and then sends all that money directly to Scopely for more sweaty bois. So there's no direct connection to any of his other revenue streams or creditors. How likely is he to be found out? Can Nancy go to Paypal and say "Give me ALL accounts owned by 'Little' PP Burnell"? And would Paypal be likely to cooperate?
 
So here's a hypothetical. Let's say Dave really does have a third Paypal account, and he uses it only to collect money from top paypigs, and then sends all that money directly to Scopely for more sweaty bois. So there's no direct connection to any of his other revenue streams or creditors. How likely is he to be found out? Can Nancy go to Paypal and say "Give me ALL accounts owned by 'Little' PP Burnell"? And would Paypal be likely to cooperate?
I'm spitballing but I imagine they would given that she's a trustee and all but someone with more knowledge feel free to correct me.
 
I assume those overdrafts were from paying for the wedding/trip to CT/things for Katherine. Phil's 100% lying and hiding shit about that.
Wasn’t September/October when dsp really ramped up his WWE Supercards (or wtf ever it’s called) addiction? Like that’s when he reeeaaalllly started to whale out? Iirc he started in September with sweaty jpeg men and started bankruptcy in October.
May have my dates off tho.
 
As others have said I don't think Phil has the hindsight to try something like that although if there's one thing I've learned from watching him it's that his schemes are truly unending.

It's hard to believe he's only had two Paypal accounts in 11 years of streaming but maybe. Has anyone figured out which Adsense account he uses on Youtube and which Paypal is associated with it?
 
I just confirmed which version is (probably) correct with haveibeenpwned.com. ppburnell@yahoo.com returns nothing. burnellpp@yahoo.com returns 4 hits, including one associated with XSplit from 2013. Phil used XSplit prior to OBS, right?
Yeah he was using XSplit at least up to the move in June of 2014 I heard that in one of the videos I was researching for my next primer video. I'll find in in the AM and clip it here.

Edit to drop my take on this Theo Theory:

Phil has had at least one PayPal since the early days as heard in his face reveal video (Please click the ads). Then he went ahead and tried to make the DSP network for the 5 channels he had monetized I assume this is when the "Business" PayPal account started.

darksydephil@hotmail.com

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Once streaming became a thing and DSP finally adopted direct capture is when the "Tips/Donations" happened.

I believe that Phil claimed only the "tips" and "business" PayPal accounts on his Bankruptcy forms.

This account would be the one with the PayPal Debt card that he talked about during the bankruptcy hearing and that would be his original account he attached to YouTube first. I would go as far to say that his behind the scenes whales use this account and Phil doesn't tell anyone about this account.

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Next up is the PayPal account he made for the "Business".

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He split this account in two one for YouTube money and Twitch bits and subs. The other one is his Dona...I mean Tips page account his cash into the BoA account he has.

In conclusion Phil has a third PayPal account he has a PayPal debt card for that behind the scenes supporters fill for him when he asks, his Mom does it once a month when he calls her, PlanetJeff does it and countless others. I am sure he has slipped up in the past some where and it will be exposed as the liar he has always been.
 
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I didn't make this thread, @actually did. He also messed up and didnt link the correct start of this conversation. Which was @Nigel of Ukip not myself. Also

>Imagine assuming I want to cater to this type of autistic sociopathic audience again

Just take it to my thread, I am sure those 4 or 5 same posters who hate me will cater to the idea.
You predictably do pop up whenever some big piece of drama starts up.
At least you're not attempting to claim you were the one who had the exclusive info but just lost it, so there is some improvement.
And no mention of thirsting for married dick...vast improvement.

The third PayPal account is a valid point of discussion, one where I don't believe Phil could accomplish on his own without leaving some glaring bread crumbs that Nancy could easily spot.
 
It's hard to believe he's only had two Paypal accounts in 11 years of streaming but maybe. Has anyone figured out which Adsense account he uses on Youtube and which Paypal is associated with it?

I wouldn't say it's hard to believe at all. You're talking about an ingrate who points to the hotmail account he made in 2001 as the only point of contact the thot wheels army can use to get in touch with Burnell Productions staff for a refund - and he still hasn't managed to navigate his way around the spam section in there either. You expect him to keep track of his finances across multiple sets of accounts and manage secret accounts as well? Do you not realise he works 12 hours a day already dood!

Then again he is real good at playing sneak thief.. that's why he hid his WWE card game account so convincingly by naming it TheyCallMeDSP.
 
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I get that people suspect he has a third paypal account. But how are you thinking he's putting funds there? If he's just transferring funds from the regular paypals to that one wouldn't it show up on the 6 months of history he now has to submit to Nancy?
 
I wouldn't say it's hard to believe at all. You're talking about an ingrate who points to the hotmail account he made in 2001 as the only point of contact the thot wheels army can use to get in touch with Burnell Productions staff for a refund - and he still hasn't managed to navigate his way around the spam section in there either. You expect him to keep track of his finances across multiple sets of accounts and manage secret accounts as well? Do you not realise he works 12 hours a day already dood!

Then again he is real good at playing sneak thief.. that's why he hid his WWE card game account so convincingly by naming it TheyCallMeDSP.

The question shouldn't be whether DSP has a third PP account, it should be whether he's master-criminal smart enough to have used it all these years in such a way to be 100% untraceable to him. No he's not smart enough to do that, he's a certified imbecile. It's hard to hide this level of laundering from the people now scrutinizing him.
 
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