Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

How in the world was Nan ever taken seriously?

There's something very unsettling about Nan's presence on the internet now, given all of this sneeze fetish info. Like I would watch her videos and not be super entertained as I don't think she is particularly charismatic or anything but i ws never actively creeped out by either of them. Like just thought she was kind of a weird kinblr weeb artist. But fuck. The exhibitionist sneezing alters videos...in the context of her sneeze fetish...makes me aware of just how DEEP her illness goes. I would feel something like pity if she didn't rope children into her fetish. Making that shit public turns this whole facade of "disorder education," into something incredibly sinister.

She doesn't seem truly aware of her actions. Like fully self-aware in regards to the world at large. Maybe in some situations you could say that about both of them. Although by the amt of DaMaGe CoNtRoL chloe has been partaking in i'd be willing to bet that while she doesn't exactly live in the real world, she's moderately aware of how people percieve things and what fallout she can avoid by doing what things. Still seems tinted by the histrionic need for sympathy/a tale to tell.Yowza! I'm thoroughly entertained.
 
It really isn't that weird. A mental illness that is unique and special allowing max creativity that can skirt any responsibility placed on them is right up a munchie's alley. I haven't seen anyone portray it in a fashion that would stigmatize it as dangerous or require institutionalization.
Here we've got a pedo who's been accused of crazy histrionic behavior and a girl that's apparently made several suicide attempts and manipulates her audience with that information. Seems pretty insane to me.

But now that I think about it, maybe Nan thinks DID is a good cover for being a pedo degenerate.
 
It really isn't that weird. A mental illness that is unique and special allowing max creativity that can skirt any responsibility placed on them is right up a munchie's alley. I haven't seen anyone portray it in a fashion that would stigmatize it as dangerous or require institutionalization.

Don't forget the appeal of being able to do autistic shit like fake a meltdown in the middle of Disney World just for the fun of provoking a reaction out of people. I used to think only manipulative children did that. When you grow up you're supposed to have a healthy sense of shame over acting like a sped in public.
 
Can someone else confirm that chloe deleted more than just the 1 emo tik tok? I don't have the app but it looks like both "persecutors" videos and the 5 fingers childhood "trauma" edition dumb video

EDIT: nevermind I was looking at the older archive which doesn't include those yet!
 
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Just some things I found about the DID and cluster b personality disorder overlap:
6:46 @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdmPlIjIrBI Chloe: -our audience is so naive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3lm2HXD1T8 @ 6:00 omg our partners are so dumb lol
@17:00 Hypersexuality - things she does not want to remember (cheating)
No romantic aka no empathy aka shalloow relationships / I like to challange myself
@21:05 chloe being a thot in university
@22:06 I like to manipulate people
@23:00 grandiosity
@23:19 I dont care about other people

Sam Vaknin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPyxgKyu4s

@ 17:41 All cluster B's are just merely different manifestations of the same disorder based on the persons current position and/or status in society.

@14:11 High intelligence is a threat to the cluster b
@41:31 how women create simps
@24:56 dissociation and slutiness
@40:53 only enjoy sex when cheating -aroused by own immorality
@41:40 the less socially acceptable the sex act, the more risk the sex the better (role-play) "the i don't remember excuse"
@48:51 psychopathic females create crazy making space , begs for sympathy. Expression of sadism
@21:10 Cluster b's need to be in control
 
Hi
I have been watching this thread for weeks now. I found it after watching a few of Dissociadid's videos and smelling bullshit. I was thrown off because no one in her comments seemed to notice anything off about her, so after some searching the webs, I found you guys.
I have been through every page on here, and have been following closely. After grandad did his uploads and failed to see it through further, I've even thought about putting together a series myself. There's two things I hate most and that's (1) attention seekers and (2) people who fake for profit. So watching both of them taking advantage of people who are turning them into living fan fiction, and to live off the money, makes me feel sick.
Anyways, I don't know how active I'll be, but I came across this this evening in
r/DissociaDID and thought, if it's real, it's interesting that someone with close proximity saw the lies. I'm hoping they will speak out more on this.

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Hi. You didn't read the thread as thoroughly as you thought, because that's been posted before. I'd advise you lurk more and actually read the thread if you're going to do a video, because people who jump on these stories and then put out half-assed badly researched YT videos just turn an already fucked-up, confusing situation fully ass-backwards.
 
As promised here is Nan's timeline. Nan has more ground to cover than Chloe so I didn't include all of her videos. I focused on the relevant videos only. Please let me know if I've missed an important point or if you happen to have links to events mentioned that are unsourced. Thanks to all in thread who have contributed.

3 September 1989 - Nanette Zuniga is born in Templeton, California.

28 January 1992 - Mick Zuniga her younger sister is born. Mick is transgender and will later become her brother.

12 September 1995 - Chris Zuniga her younger brother is born.

2000-2001- In sixth grade, Nan first becomes aware of her alter Risk who she calls Cat.

15 January 2004 - Nan joins FanFiction.Net where she describes her age as '13-20 you pick one!' She is actually 15.

2 September 2005 - Nan writes feeder fan fiction featuring a dragon.

18 September 2005- Nan joins fanart central. She likes a picture of a small boy.

25 September 2005 - Nan draws Chibi Jessie and James from Pokemon bathing together.

15 June 2006 - Nan 'likes' fanfic pairing Mayura, 17, and Loki, 8, from The Mythical Detective Loki Ragnarok on fanfiction.net

2006 - Nan joins Deviant Art

20 December 2006 - Nan draws the corpses of Loki and Heimdall from The Mythical Detective Loki Ragnarok. Loki is an eight year old boy.

3 July 2007 - Nan draws an aged down 'little' Enrico from Hellsing being bounced on the knee of 'uncle' Anderson. The animation simulates sodomy to the excitement of commenters. Text in the background reads 'happy child'.

21 July 2007 - Nan draws Conan Edogawa, a six to seven year old boy in underwear. She invites fans to 'have fun with the child'.
Fans of Nan's work light heartedly describe this drawing as perverted.

22 February 2010 - Nan joins Sneeze Fetish Forums. She shares artwork of her teenage OC sneezing.

8 July 2010 - Nan joins YouTube as ggolddduck.

August 2010 - Nan starts studying Fine Art at San Fransisco State University.

3 August 2010 - Nan decorates her dorm room.

4 August 2010 - Nan admits that she is aroused by seeing other people unwell, preferring colds over allergies.

12 September 2010 - Nan shares erotic drawings of children's characters Moomin and Snufkin with Sneeze Fetish Forums. Snufkin is a teenager.

23 September 2010 - Nan shares drawings of her friend's OC with Sneeze Fetish Forums.

5 October 2010 - Nan shares a comic about sneezing on Sneeze Fetish Forums. Her characters Kingsley and Miles are 15 and 16. Nan is 21.
Kingsley is described by Nan as having a 'childish face' and 'boyish body' with 'small breasts'. She is often forced to sneeze against her will.
Miles is described by Nan has having 'a youthful face' and a 'thin build'.

15 October 2010 - Nan joins blogspot as Cuttlefish Skin. She expresses a desire to illustrate children's books.

16 October 2010 - Nan draws her brother's OC sneezing nude.

15 November 2010 - Nan describes herself as 'ooga booga'

Late 2010 - Early 2011 - Nan experiences trauma at university. She drops out and plans to pursue nursing instead.

3 February 2011 - When temporarily staying with a friend, Nan is hit by a van whilst riding a bicycle. She falls from the bicycle and makes peace with the thought that she is going to die. Her alter Agnes switches in and takes the impact of the accident. The accident results in brain damage. (a) (l)

5 February 2011 - Nan wakes up in hospital. She has no memory of the accident. She has a severe concussion. She was hit on the left frontal lobe. As a result of the accident, she is partially deaf and her amnesia is worse. Her family believe that the brain injury created false memories of childhood abuse as these memories only surfaced after her accident. Nan feels that this is invalidating. The accident inspired Nan to get back into art.

16 February 2011 - Nan gets out of hospital and posts to the Sneeze Fetish Forum. Her parents have discovered her fetish art and do not approve.

22 February 2011 - Nan shares another drawing of her OCs on Sneeze Fetish Forum.

3 March 2011 - Nan shares various sneezes from Detective Conan on her YouTube channel ggolddduck.

6 March 2011 - Nan creates a Dungeons & Dragons character with a weak immune system. She is embarrassed but excited to sneak her fetish into a game with friends.

30 March 2011 - Nan shares drawings of her brother and friends original characters on Sneeze Fetish Forum.

12 April 2011 - Nan is aroused by a woman's sexy sickness.

14 May 2011 - Nan draws GeGeGe no Kitarō sneezing. He has the body of a young boy.

16 May 2011 - Nan shares plans for her upcoming 'fetishy' animation featuring her teenage OCs with Sneeze Fetish Forums.

22 May 2011 - Nan posts an animation of her teenage characters sneezing.

11 June 2011 - Nan shares her friend's OC with the Sneeze Fetish Forum. She has drawn gay erotica of the same characters.

16 June 2011 - Nan is excited and embarrassed about sneezing at work.

30 June 2011 - Nan describes herself as a pervert who gets off on serious illness. She also admits that she is sexually aroused by her teenage characters when drawn unwell.

July 2011 - Nan discovers videos from her alter Risk who is self harming. (a)

20 July 2011 - Nan draws Fraggle Rock erotica stating "The child in me fell in love with the show immediately and the pervert in me thought...why not have a little fun with the characters."

5 August 2011 - Nan admits to being aroused by contagion, desperation, and messiness in relation to sneezing.

6 August 2011- Nan joins sneezefurs
Nan shares a picture of what she describes as 'a little girl' Elliot sneezing with the Sneeze Fetish Forum.
Elliot is later described as being 13.

27 September 2011 - Nan draws anthro-erotica featuring several children's film characters.

5 October 2011 - Nan describes herself as 'perverse' and a 'silly silly child'.
Nan shares a drawing of Elliot who is 13. She reveals in the comments that Elliot has marks around her neck due to early childhood trauma. She describes the trauma as "secret XD" and something that only she knows.

25 November 2011 - Nan shares pictures of Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy having been punched in the face on Sneeze Fetish Forum. It is implied that Ivy has been sexually assaulted.

29 November 2011 - Nan is irritated when her boyfriend 'induces' sneezing in front of their friends to satisfy her fetish. She did not find it sexy.

3 December 2011 - Nan comments enthusiastically on sneeze erotica featuring Knuckles and Tails. Tails is a child.

5 December 2011 - Nan draws The Powerpuff Girls being forced to sneeze by Mojo.

7 December 2011 - Nan fangirls over a sneeze story featuring Klonoa and Lolo. Klonoa is canonically 10-15.

Early 2012 - According to several videos, Nan is admitted to a psych ward for the first time. Here, Jeremy experiences trauma.

7 January 2012 - Nan admits that sneezing is always attractive to her. She says that she likes male and female sneezes. She suggests that she often thinks about the genitals of the person who is sneezing.

2 February 2012 - Professionals involved in Nan's treatment advise her to stop drawing. Nan does not explain why.

4 February 2012 - Nan joins furaffinity where she describes herself as a silly pervert.

26 June 2012 - Nan draws her teenage OC crying on Sneeze Fetish Forum.

20 July 2012 - Nan draws Mylo with a nosebleed and shares it with Sneeze Fetish Forum.

9 August 2012 - Nan catches a cold from a family member. She is excited to go on a cross-country trip to see her girlfriend and be taken care of.

26 August 2012 -
Nan is aroused by the thought of smokers lungs being in poor shape.
Later than day, Nan draws her teenage OCs smoking and coughing.

16 September 2012 - Nan draws a teenage OC sneezing.

17 September 2012 - Nan 'comes out' as having a sneeze and sickness fetish on her Deviant Art.

1 October 2012 - Nan asks a sick friend to share a drink so she can become sick too. She succeeds and shares her excitement with the Sneeze Fetish Forum. She discusses her desire to seem 'gross to the outside world'.

25 January 2013 - Nan posts a picture of teenager Miles on Deviant Art and admits that she gains sadistic pleasure from making weak people sneeze.

23 February 2013 - Nan begins offering commissions again.

26 March 2013 - Nan draws Klonoa sneezing again. Klonoa is canonically 10-15.

18 July 2013 - Nan has a weird interaction with her family. Though weird, her family clearly love her.

16 August 2013 - Nan describes her character Scooter as a 16 year old with 'full lips'. Scooter features in several fetish drawings.
Nan draws Scooter sneezing.

10 September 2013 - Nan creates a playlist of her favourite sneeze videos. This playlist includes 'One on One' a video about a little girl and a large man holding a staring contest. The video ends with the man sneezing on the girl.

25 February 2014 - Nan shares several drawings of The Great Mouse Detective characters in bondage and describes them as 'ukes' and 'sticky'.

9 June 2014 - Nan draws Tails the Fox, a child. Nan describes Tails as "a silly little fuckling" and in the comments she describes Sara, a young cat girl, as a little cunt.

3 July 2014 - Nan visits her brother Mick.

8 July 2014 - Nan returns from the visit where she 'bitched at a puppy'

29 July 2014 - Nan gives herself a tattoo featuring one of her OCs.

22 August 2014 - Nan jokes about orgasms with her brother Mick.

28 August 2014 - Nan is grateful for her siblings and the irreplaceable experiences and emotions they have given her.

11 September 2014 - Nan shares an image of a young flat chested anime character sneezing and growing large breasts.

10 September 2014 - Nan draws Amelia and Lina from Slayers making each other sneeze. Canonically, Amelia is 14-17. Lina is 14-18. Nan describes Lina as 'a hot bitch'

12 September 2014 - Nan posts about her fetish. By her own definition, her sneeze fetish is always sexual. She admits that she will always be sexually aroused by sneezing. She explains the difference between a kink which is not always sexual, and a fetish, which is always sexual. She reinforces the fact that she has a sneeze fetish... which is always sexual. This will contradict with her later statement that sneezing is not always sexual.

14 September 2014 - Nan shaves her head. It looks terrifying.
Nan shares a list of paraphilia's. She identifies her own.

16 September 2014 - Nan returns from the 'I Madonnar' chalk drawing event where she drew two OCs from Mud Sky, Maud and Elliot.

2015 - Nan creates her blog Out of Tissues, a blog for sneeze and sickness enthusiasts. She describes her drawings as porn.

8 February 2015 - Nan admits to playing pretend and feeling like she is five years old.

1 April 2015 - Nan jokes about impregnating a spider after 'years of trying'.

10 April 2015 - Nan celebrates national sibling day in California without her brothers.

18 May 2015 - Nan draws a teenage OC sneezing titled 'Poor Kid...'

25 May 2015 - Nan draws South Park characters sneezing. The post is tagged with sneeze fetish and features two eight year old boys and the phrase "Gross! Jcw germs!"

26 May 2015 - Nan draws her brother's OC sneezing.

28 May 2015 - Nan promotes Out of Tissues on her DA account.

9 June 2015 - Nan draws her friends OCs performing oral sex without her friends consent. They sneeze on each others genitals.

20 June 2015 - Nan shares a picture of her brothers OC nude and sneezing.

23 June 2015 - Nan bakes a pie and spends Father's day with her parents.

15 July 2015 - Nan draws graphic and bloody sneeze erotica featuring genitalia. When performing oral sex, a character sneezes blood onto another characters genitals.

Early 2016 - Nan moves away from her hometown. She begins researching DID and comes to believe that she has the condition.

29 July 2016 - A fan of Nan requests an erotic drawing of "young" Greg from Steven Universe.

12 September 2016 - Nan draws Wirt from Over The Garden Wall. He is a teenager. He is helped to sneeze by his very young brother.

Early 2017 - Nan calls 911 and reports that an alter has tried to commit suicide. She wakes up in a bath tub 'covered in self injury'. She is admitted to hospital and finds the experience so traumatic she develops PTSD. She pursues a DID diagnosis though her treatment team are reluctant to confirm. After a year of pushing, she is given a diagnosis.
At the emergency room, Jeremy is examined by a doctor for self harm scars. The doctor examines Jeremy in a way that feels 'incredibly intrusive' and like 'sexual harassment'. The doctor tells Jeremy that he does not have DID. (a)

7 January 2017 - Nan draws Mega-Man sneezing. She tags the post sneeze fetish. The character is 10.

16 January 2017 - Nan draws a teenage OC sneezing.

16 April 2017 - Nan draws Dipper from Gravity Falls. He is 12. She tags the post 'sneeze fetish'

9 May 2017 - Nan draws Jeremy sneezing. Jeremy is a real life friend who may be the inspiration for her alter.

13 September 2017 - Nan creates her YouTube channel Team Piñata. It is initially called Jeremy: An Alternate Perspective.

27 September 2017 - Nan draws Rainbow Brite, a child, 'aged up' and sneezing. She uses the sneeze fetish tag. She will later go on to claim that she only drew her outfit though the drawing speaks for itself.

8 March 2018 - Nan posts Story Time: Our D.I.D System’s PSYCH HOSPITAL stay *triggering* a video addressing her previous experience in psych hospitals.
In this video Nan claims to have gone to 18-20 times since 2012. She has been to residential homes 4 times and 2 crisis facilities.
She mentions that when Jeremy was new to the system he experienced trauma at the hands of a doctor at a psych ward.
Kit explains that Nan's ex-girlfriend 'Carly' told Kit that she was an alter shortly before her first stay in a psych ward.

March 2018 - Nan admits herself to a residential treatment home after a breakdown.

31 March 2018 - Nan posts D.I.D. System in a Crisis Center (vlog #1) documenting her time in an open residential treatment home.

10 April 2018 - Nan posts D.I.D. System in a Crisis Center (FINAL vlog) and leaves the treatment home.

4 May 2018 - Nan posts 'Spend a Day with an Alter' series: KIT'S MALL ADVENTURE! in which Kit is described as being 13. She is later described as 14.

May 2018 - Evan and Risk integrate to form Riven. Nan claims that they consciously put up amnesia walls for privacy and talked about their painful emotions before integrating. Before integrating, Risk leaves an audio message that reads as a suicide note.

26 June 2018 - Nan posts Changes in Our System: POST-INTEGRATION UPDATE addressing the integration of Risk and Evan.

26 July 2018 - Nan makes her first public comment on Chloe's Instagram.

30 August 2018 - Nan posts CAL AND AGNES :: Alters in Love! addressing the relationship between alters Cal and Agnes.

10 September 2018 - Ace is raped by Sam. Ace splits and forms a new persecutor, Nadeen. Sam later admits to having a sexual relationship with two teenage alters.

15 September 2018 - Sam takes Nan to hospital with psychosomatic symptoms. Nan throws a temper tantrum when she is told there is nothing wrong with her. Sam and her doctors watch whilst she rolls around on the floor screaming at Cal and Jeremy. She then tells a doctor that she is just being dramatic. She is discharged and taken home by Sam.
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18 September 2018 - Seth is born to cope with the recent trauma.

19 September 2018 - Seth makes his first Instagram post threatening anyone who messes with Ace.
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20 September 2018 - Nan stops being friends with Sam. Ace goes missing. She has been kidnapped by Nadeen, who has made Ace her slave. Seth draws himself at two days old.
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September 2018 - According to Ace is Missing, Nadeen talks to Nan's real brother Chris. Ace fights her way to the front to ask Nan's friends for help.

15 October 2018 - Nan shares art of Jeremy sneezing. She suggests that Seth is attracted to Jeremy.
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29 October 2018 - Nan visits Missouri.

14 November 2018 - Nan starts her relationship with Chloe.

November 2018 -
-Nan visits a group of friends, one of whom also has DID. During her visit, Nan, acting as Kit who is 13-14, approaches her friend with DID and asks to start a sexual relationship with a teenager who is already in a relationship. Everyone is horrified. Chloe hears about the incident and threatens to end the relationship.

-Nan posts a video addressing Ace's kidnapping. Ace was kidnapped and held as a slave in the basement. Madison, a little, is discovered. Ace leaves a voice note for friends asking them to protect the new little from Nadeen. Cal makes contact with Madison through a crack in the floor.

Late November - Early December Nan's little alter Sadie discovers she is an alter.

6 December 2018 - Nan moves to St Louis, Missouri to stay with friends. Allegedly, during this period of time Nan fights a dog over a pancake when her cat alter became territorial.

19 December 2018 - Nan has another integration resulting in Shasta. Shasta is a fictive alter who has featured in her sneeze erotica.

31 December 2018 - Nan launches a PO Box in Missouri.

Late 2018 - Early 2019 - Kit integrates into Nan.

1 January 2019 - Nan features in TOI magazine.

February 2019 - Nan is admitted to a psych ward after a new alter attempts suicide. She approached her roommates bleeding heavily. She does not want to go to hospital but her friends convince her. Nan takes an Uber to the emergency room. She says that this time she was lucky that the doctor "didn't try anything on me" before admitting her to a psychiatric hospital for six days. The friends she had been staying with in Missouri no longer felt safe with Nan living in the house. She was able to collect her possessions. She spent some time on the street before her YouTube viewers donated for a hotel room. Nan apologises to her former friends for distressing them.
At some stage when homeless Nan filmed herself growling at passing cars.

March - May 2019 - Nan's alter Leslie, 19, starts dating Chloe's alter, Nadia, 17.

7 March 2019 - Nan posts a video addressing the recent stay in hospital.

March 14 2019 - Nan addresses the integration of Kit.

May 2019 -Nan and Chloe are gifted tickets to Disney World and meet for the first time. They travel to Florida together and spend the day running around the park as littles. Nan and Chloe kiss and touch each other when they are 'little'. They also discuss jealousy surrounding children's bodies. Nan and Chloe return to England together.

23 June 2019 - Nan takes part in a collaboration with Chloe and Bobo&Co. They express jealousy towards children's bodies and wish they could interact with children when they are littles.

July 2019 - 'Jeremy' describes himself as Daddy to Chloe's littles.
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August 2019 - Ace and Leslie integrate to form Lacy. Lacy and Nadia start dating.

1 September 2019 - Nan and Chloe host a meet up in Colchester.

17 September 2019 - Nan returns to America.

10 October 2019 - Seth and Evan integrate to form Riven.

26 October 2019 - Nan returns to England.

9 December 2019 - Nan is interviewed about her struggle to find an accepting barber as a troon.

22 December 2019 - Nan shares some sickness content with her unsuspecting fans.

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27 December 2019 - Nan and Chloe announce their engagement.

December 2019 - Sam describes Nan as an alcoholic, a drug user, manipulative, and a malingerer. He claims that she is unsafe to be around whilst her BPD goes untreated.

February 2020 - Lacy goes into a coma after saying an emotional goodbye to Nadia. Wendy is born.

18 February 2020 - Nan returns to America.

March 2020 - Nan's photo bucket is discovered. Several images that have not been covered in this timeline so far came to light.
A baby wolf being sneezed on by an adult wolf.
A number of young girls unwell and sneezing.
Yamino sneezing whilst Loki watches. Loki is an eight year old boy.
Spike, a baby dragon sneezing.
A rabbit being 'assaulted' by Nan's duck fursona.
Deer having sex.

13 March 2020 - Nan makes an angry video addressing Trisha Paytas.

19 March 2020 - Nan unfollows Chloe on Instagram.

21 March 2020 - Nan posts a selfie in bed describing her flu-like symptoms.

23 March 2020 - Nan advertises new cat-themed merch.

25 March 2020 - Nan posts on Instagram addressing the 'bullying'.

26 March 2020 - Nan introduces a new alter Cliff, an alcoholic construction worker who joined the system to support Chloe.

1 April 2020 - Nan suspects she has coronavirus.

2 April 2020 - Sam reveals he is in therapy and writing to deal with the unhealthy relationship he had with Nan.
Nan reveals that Lacy is in a coma and trapped in the attic. Wendy, an animatronic doll with no emotions is born. Nadia is grieving.

6 April 2020 - Nan's apartment manager calls 911 as Nan's WuFlu develops much to Nan's irritation.

7-9 April 2020 - Nan makes her social media private. Grandad's Lounge makes several deleted videos about Chloe and Nan. One video exposes Nan as a pedophile.

10 April 2020 - Nan goes live on Instagram to address the rumours. She deflects from her child porn allegations. Her fans are supportive. Chloe comments frequently encouraging Nan to stop when she is ready. She is supportive of Nan but subtly controls the narrative.
Following this livestream, Nan makes her social media pages private again. Her YouTube videos are made public though several videos are missing. She has deleted a video on her channel where she made her unsuspecting audience watch her sneeze.
She also removed her videos surrounding Ace and her kidnapping.

12 April 2020 - Sam claims that Nan is not a pedophile. He does agree that she has drawn CP and he admits to having seen her drawings. Sam also claims that Nan retracted her claims that he raped her.
One of Nan's former sneeze fetish associates chimes in to agree that the forum was full of CP and predators at the time Nan was posting.
 
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Update from Nan's private IG

Riven decided to post some vent art showing that they are still very much unable to take a break from the internet. You can tell its Riven because of the lack of vowels in the caption.

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Nan also recently replied to a fan defending her on a previous post. Thought I'd add it. Nan is so confused to why everyone is so upset that they used the word porn on her "cute doodles" -- sad considering they have now said multiple times that their therapist (see: better help text support) has told them to step away from the internet right now. I'm guessing a new vid will be posted by the weekend.

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This is very fair and I never want anyone to be silenced or dismissed, especially with such a troubling topic. I know people are hurt, and I get why people are upset. I still stand by that this has been twisted way out of proportion and I have never done anything to purposefullt endanger anyone. Just because something 'can' be s*xual doesn't mean it always 'is'. I did my best to explain and apologize. I've tried not to shut people down except when I've had to remove myself because people were being purposefully triggering. I want people to be heard and to understand, because I and my system truly care about the community. I know s*x and similar topics are rough for many, and many systrms wont feel safe simply because of the terminology used. Hell, I'm triggered as well because of the terminology used, like bad. I dont know how many more times I should apologize for not presenting that blog in the right way. I had honestly forgotten about it. I never ever thought this sort of thing would happen because I never considered what I drew to be dangerous,. The sneeze video I suggested for the channel was sincerely meant to be a silly way to display differences. How people can think it's supposed to be s*xually gratifying to me is bizarre. The pictures I drew werent supposed to hurt anyone. I havent drawn legitimate 'sexy' pictures in years. Cute doodles of Jeremy? Some. But nothing I deem sexy in years... honestly, I'm devastated and heavily heavily triggered. But I do wanna make this right if I can. I've already spoken to some systems, done the livestream, and continued to explain myself best I can. I'm at a loss because theres not alot more I can do. Something private about me has been made public in the worst possible way, with hot-button trauma buzzwords used to shock and scare people who are already hurt. I dont blame people for being hurt because of the way this stuff was crudely presented. I feel like I can only apologize for my mistakes so much, and I dont wanna apologize for stuff I didnt do. People, including my therapist, have encouraged us to step away now that I've apologized and explained. I sincerely hope things will settle down soon. -Nan


Thanks for the work Comrade, et al. I was a fan of these two before this thread.
 
Update from Nan's private IG

Riven decided to post some vent art showing that they are still very much unable to take a break from the internet. You can tell its Riven because of the lack of vowels in the caption.


Nan also recently replied to a fan defending her on a previous post. Thought I'd add it. Nan is so confused to why everyone is so upset that they used the word porn on her "cute doodles" -- sad considering they have now said multiple times that their therapist (see: better help text support) has told them to step away from the internet right now. I'm guessing a new vid will be posted by the weekend.

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This is very fair and I never want anyone to be silenced or dismissed, especially with such a troubling topic. I know people are hurt, and I get why people are upset. I still stand by that this has been twisted way out of proportion and I have never done anything to purposefullt endanger anyone. Just because something 'can' be s*xual doesn't mean it always 'is'. I did my best to explain and apologize. I've tried not to shut people down except when I've had to remove myself because people were being purposefully triggering. I want people to be heard and to understand, because I and my system truly care about the community. I know s*x and similar topics are rough for many, and many systrms wont feel safe simply because of the terminology used. Hell, I'm triggered as well because of the terminology used, like bad. I dont know how many more times I should apologize for not presenting that blog in the right way. I had honestly forgotten about it. I never ever thought this sort of thing would happen because I never considered what I drew to be dangerous,. The sneeze video I suggested for the channel was sincerely meant to be a silly way to display differences. How people can think it's supposed to be s*xually gratifying to me is bizarre. The pictures I drew werent supposed to hurt anyone. I havent drawn legitimate 'sexy' pictures in years. Cute doodles of Jeremy? Some. But nothing I deem sexy in years... honestly, I'm devastated and heavily heavily triggered. But I do wanna make this right if I can. I've already spoken to some systems, done the livestream, and continued to explain myself best I can. I'm at a loss because theres not alot more I can do. Something private about me has been made public in the worst possible way, with hot-button trauma buzzwords used to shock and scare people who are already hurt. I dont blame people for being hurt because of the way this stuff was crudely presented. I feel like I can only apologize for my mistakes so much, and I dont wanna apologize for stuff I didnt do. People, including my therapist, have encouraged us to step away now that I've apologized and explained. I sincerely hope things will settle down soon. -Nan


Thanks for the work Comrade, et al. I was a fan of these two before this thread.

When you look at the long list of children Nan drew it just becomes impossible to think that it was in any way a mistake. When you read her own description of what a fetish is, when she admits herself that a fetish is always sexy, that sneezing itself is always sexy, not even that long ago... how can anyone still believe that she just thought the drawings were cute? How can the interactions in which fans of her art ask for 'young' characters not speak volumes to the sort of commissions she was likely taking privately? She is a terrifying creature and if she genuinely believes that she has done nothing wrong then she is delusional which makes her even more dangerous. She didn't misrepresent anything. It was all clearly represented. She knew what she was drawing.

As much fun as it is simply making fun of cows, it's always nice to be able to expose a predator along the way. I'm glad your mind has been changed.
 
This one guy I came across claimed his trauma was 1) getting spanked a handful of times as a kid, 2) being homeschooled (which he described as isolation despite fondly remembering how his family often went on trips), 3) getting his iPod taken away by his parents at 9 PM, and 4) getting 'cyber bullied' online when his friends realized he was lying and left him.

Wow. What the fuck?
 
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As much fun as it is simply making fun of cows, it's always nice to be able to expose a predator along the way. I'm glad your mind has been changed.

Add me to the list of dumbs who gave these broads the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of months. As for your question about all the freshies, I found the thread because someone mentioned it in Nan's comment section recently. Took me the end of Page 1 to start looking for my clown nose. But appreciated.

As promised here is Nan's timeline.

A quick skim of that timeline makes the CP stuff really obvious. Starting to think it's not just an autistic lack of boundaries or a head injury, but that Nan's seeming like a real baby-toucher now.
 
Add me to the list of dumbs who gave these broads the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of months. As for your question about all the freshies, I found the thread because someone mentioned it in Nan's comment section recently. Took me the end of Page 1 to start looking for my clown nose. But appreciated.

A quick skim of that timeline makes the CP stuff really obvious. Starting to think it's not just an autistic lack of boundaries or a head injury, but that Nan's seeming like a real baby-toucher now.

I'm not surprised to hear that Chloe was able to convince so many people. She is far smoother than Nan. Nan is quite clearly mentally ill and spiralling out of control. Her fantasy inner life is based upon delusion and her behaviour is incredibly erratic. Nan also bears the physical marks of severe mental illness. Being convinced by Nan is like being convinced by a homeless schizo that the seconding coming is nigh.

Chloe, on the other hand? She speaks calmly and looks well put together. She supports her videos with fact - even if those facts are cherry picked and misrepresented. Chloe can't resist sprinkling in a little fantasy here and there but she is so careful with what she shares. As a narcissist, she is able to speak with conviction even when lying. It's only when you step back and analyse her sources, line up the inconsistencies, and gather all of the fucked up things she's done into one list that you realise what a clever game she is playing.

As for Nan's interest in children, yeah. I've been saying it for weeks now but then I've been going through her old profiles and I've been seeing the sheer volume of this shit. I haven't even documented it all but I reached a point where it felt as if I'd gathered enough. Surely people can see this now. I can see how at first glance one might think she was just autistic as fuck but her work really does speak for itself. Anything that reads as pseudo pedophilic is nauseating to dig through but if that's what it takes to prove she might well be a genuine risk it becomes worth it.
 
Chloe, on the other hand? She speaks calmly and looks well put together. She supports her videos with fact - even if those facts are cherry picked and misrepresented.

This is what got me originally. I became aware of the channel after the Trisha thing like a lot of people and at first glance she seemed legit, if not a bit cringey at times (but arent all youtubers who do this style of vid?). Once I discovered Nan I was super confused but wrote it off as a trauma victim bonding with another trauma victim and didnt look too closely into Nan because they're so irritating to watch. So yeah thanks again for putting all this info together so I'm not out here being as much of a dumb idiot as like 3 days ago before I knew about all this
 
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