Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[Carlos the Scientist]

Another Instagram post. Part 2 of the (non-)apology. Highlights include claiming amnesia of all these drawings, and the timeline being mentioned.

It's a bit of a read, but if you haven't watched the videos, I'd reccommend.

Spoiler: Nan's apology part 2

'Hello, it's Nan again. I'm going into some more detail, um, on... my previous apology. I still stand by that apology. I'd like to apologise more specifically. In the past, I've drawn up some fucked up shit. I don't remember drawing it. At the time I drew it, based on what I read that I wrote back then... I must have thought it was okay. I must not have seen anything wrong with it. Now, looking back, it deeply saddens me. There's something wrong with it, and I'm sorry.

Um... trigger warning, I'm going to talk a little bit about sex. I obviously did not have a healthy view on sex, or okay ways of using terms around sex. I don't think I understood the significance of what I was drawing, and what I was doing.

I stand by that none of this was to hurt any children, none of this was to hurt any people, none of this was to hurt any systems. The drawings that I've done of Jeremy sneezing, that Seth has done of Jeremy sneezing, that's because it's cute, and Seth had a crush on Jeremy, um... I still stand by that those are innocent, I still stand by that the sneezing comparison video that we did was... honestly just meant to be a cute, silly video.

But... some of the stuff that I drew in the past... was not okay. It reflected... ... It reflected my naievety. It reflected my ignorance, and it reflected what a twisted fucking idea of sex that I had. That's not who I am anymore, and that's not how my system is. But it doesn't excuse what's been done, and I'm sorry.

So, um... addressing the timeline that's been leaked of me, even though there are some inaccuracies to that timeline, there are some actual drawings adn actual posts that I have made. Those posts and those drawings are foreign to me now. I look at them, honestly I forgot that I drew them. I forgot what I had said, back in 2010, 2011, 2012, and earlier - oh my God, i barely remember it at all.

It doesn't make what I did okay, and... obviously, um... the community is really, really, really hurting, beacuse of this stuff that is being shown. And... I never meant to hurt the community, ever. I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry to anybody who is hurt. And... I apologised... now again, and I don't really know - [this cuts off abruptly]

- people's pain and people's trauma is valid, and, um... I understand that there's a lot of people who can't stand by me or my system after these kinds of things. I... assure folks that... I regret what I drew. I forgot I drew it. It doesn't look like I had any ill intention or malice in drawing it, but I regret what I did, what I drew, and it wasn't okay.

Um, so. I... I'm completely and utterly devastated, I'm crushed, i feel absolutely hopeless. And deeply, deeply ashamed. So... um... I don't know how else to apologise. I don't know if anybody will ever let this go, and I hope we can continue to educate in the future about our life with DID, and validate and advocate for other systems, but if we can't...

...then it was an honestly really fulfilling journey. Thank you for following our channels, and for all your support. You guys have been invaluable for our recovery, and... we really, really care about the community. I'm speaking for all of us, I know that Jeremy especially just loves, loves the community and he is heartbroken. I'm not sure what else to do, so... again, I'm deeply sorry. I deeply regret -

Then it just cuts off. Part 3 incoming, maybe?

We've pointed out before that Chloe's liked all of Nan's posts before this. She hasn't liked either of these two posts, although she's still following Nan on Instagram. It'll be interesting to see how/if she addresses all this.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

If Nan is fully cancelled, does that include her alters or just her? Can Jeremy and Riven still make videos or are they banished too?

 

[turtleneckfish]

If Nan is fully cancelled, does that include her alters or just her? Can Jeremy and Riven still make videos or are they banished too?

since Riven likes to diddle age-sliding toddler Nin, i doubt it. lmao

 

[randomtranny]

what a trainwreck to wake up to.
So she acts as if she is still innocent and a victim of herself for not KNOWING that she written and drawn that.. Sure, Jan.
But I am glad that some people still call her out on her bullshit on that instagram post and even go after people that excuse this behaviour with "B-But the Trauma did it!!!"
Let's see how long it takes for her to clean up the comments.

At this point I wonder if we could compare her fans reaction to onion boy's fans reaction.

"But she didn't know that it was CP!!1!1! she's the real victim in this!1!!!one!1 justice for the pinata!1!! owo"

If Chloe still condones Nan after this she's probably gonna go down too, and her malingering will be exposed. But maybe that's too optimistic.

 

[Gramh]

How hard is making an honest apology though, neither Nan nor Chloe seem capable of accepting even the most basic responsibilities for their actions

 

[Supreme Autist]

How hard is making an honest apology though, neither Nan nor Chloe seem capable of accepting even the most basic responsibilities for their actions

hallmark of cluster B personality disorders.

 

[Lurk]

Oh Nan, did you really just try to fall back on the "I don't remember drawing this, it must have been an alter" excuse? I assume that's what she's trying to imply by claiming amnesia. Isn't one of Chloe's big things about how alters aren't evil, won't do harm, etc and this is therefore flying in the face of that? They are all very detailed and no doubt took countless hours and spread out over many years, there is no way you don't remember doing it.

I would have more respect for her (that's not saying much since I have less than zero right now) if she just came clean about it all and owned up to it already. She just continues to dig a hole for herself chasing her own ass in circles with excuses.

As much as I enjoy the m!lk, this woman is without a doubt extremely mentally unwell and she needs to get off the internet entirely and go into some kind of treatment (not just fucking Better Health therapy, jesus). And when she seeks help, it ought to be for whatever is actually wrong with her - not this made up DID bullshit. It is screamingly obvious that DID is not the issue and that personality disorders are running rampant all over her life.

Fuck, I keep bordering on feeling sorry for her But then I remember she's a nonce

 

[Supreme Autist]

Also chloe had a problem with Kati morton not because of the whole BetterHelp fiasco, but because Kati said that psychopaths are terrible yucky people.
Apparently that offended Chloe.. Interesting..

 

[BScaller!]

Bobo& Co video: titled "sofa chats with Chloe and Nan, faking, switching and parents thoughts" They discuss their relationships with parents and family.
7:44 I dont remember but I must have had trauma
18:55 Chloe mentions that her friends thought she was attention seeking but was "depressed"
19:45 Nans parents/ 19:55 Chloe's parents who have no idea where the trauma came from and who both love her so much
-this vid is giving me issues so Here is the link

 

[pd2jzutg2]

Also chloe had a problem with Kati morton not because of the whole BetterHelp fiasco, but because Kati said that psychopaths are terrible yucky people.
Apparently that offended Chloe.. Interesting..

It offended a lot of people to be fair. I think Chloe would have been under fire had she not sided with the SJWs on that one

 

[Gramh]

Part of me empathizes that Nan just got the shit kicked out of her by shit she thought she could hide, but the overwhelming majority of my feels says those apologies were the absolute most disingenuous speeches out of her yet and wonders what would make the best hanging pinata joke when the shit really sinks in.

 

[Jackherer]

Nan's apologies are bullshit. Let's take them at their word and say they don't remember drawing any of the cp. Even so there's no way in hell they wouldn't of checked back up on where it was hosted to upload more, check comments etc

So even if they for whatever fucking reason didn't remember drawing it. Surely nan would of seen it when they went to upload something else

And instead of deleting it and going "why the fuck did I draw that...that's fucked, I need help" they kept it up and uploaded even more cp.

 

[Supreme Autist]

It offended a lot of people to be fair. I think Chloe would have been under fire had she not sided with the SJWs on that one

that's the problem with 'communities' is that people don't stand for anything they just parrot others.

Psychopaths in general are predators though- sadism etc, and BetterHelp is a terrible concept.

...Which reminds me. One of nan's littles called 'sadie' like wtf

 

[pd2jzutg2]

Nan is following Chloe on Instagram again btw

 

[destinyschildreject]

Poor Chloe had a really bad childhood, oh wait..
Guess her imagination came to great use.

 

[dissociaDIPSHIT]

I personally think that if all we know of Chloe is true, that she's just going to drop Nan. She's worked hard to amass and maintain her following, and if she's as self-centered as we think she is, she isn't letting Nan get in her way. Yes, Nan worships the ground she walks on, but she could just as easily manipulate one of her fans to LARP with her. She's not just gonna abandon all of the fans and money to save one person, especially when there's so much clear proof against them.

I'm just waiting to see the eventual explosion and fallout at this point.

 

[Supreme Autist]

Nan is following Chloe on Instagram again btw

But is Chloe following Nan?

 

[Supreme Autist]

I personally think that if all we know of Chloe is true, that she's just going to drop Nan. She's worked hard to amass and maintain her following, and if she's as self-centered as we think she is, she isn't letting Nan get in her way. Yes, Nan worships the ground she walks on, but she could just as easily manipulate one of her fans to LARP with her. She's not just gonna abandon all of the fans and money to save one person, especially when there's so much clear proof against them.

I'm just waiting to see the eventual explosion and fallout at this point.

shame we can't place bets

 

[fat venus]

Oh shit I just realised that Nan is someone I used to chat with years ago. Her username was Spoider. Recognised her drawings. Fuuuuuuck.

 

[Punkinsplice]

Oh Nan, did you really just try to fall back on the "I don't remember drawing this, it must have been an alter" excuse? I assume that's what she's trying to imply by claiming amnesia. Isn't one of Chloe's big things about how alters aren't evil, won't do harm, etc and this is therefore flying in the face of that? They are all very detailed and no doubt took countless hours and spread out over many years, there is no way you don't remember doing it.

I would have more respect for her (that's not saying much since I have less than zero right now) if she just came clean about it all and owned up to it already. She just continues to dig a hole for herself chasing her own ass in circles with excuses.

As much as I enjoy the m!lk, this woman is without a doubt extremely mentally unwell and she needs to get off the internet entirely and go into some kind of treatment (not just fucking Better Health therapy, jesus). And when she seeks help, it ought to be for whatever is actually wrong with her - not this made up DID bullshit. It is screamingly obvious that DID is not the issue and that personality disorders are running rampant all over her life.

Fuck, I keep bordering on feeling sorry for her But then I remember she's a nonce

I got the sense that she is alluding to a period of fugue due to her mental issues, but maybe not related to her alters. I don't have the background to explain this well, but when someone goes through a mental breakdown, they often have trouble remembering the time period when they were unstable. That period would seem like being on "autopilot", and when they become stable again, the memories are vague. I don't want to give her an out because I think she is full of crap, but her wording sounded like she just doesn't remember these times, not that one of her alters did it.