Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[NoWords]

Jesus. The melodrama. "Shattered"? I can't believe I used to butt-pat people like this. It's so fucking unhealthy.

Also, "Assaulted in various ways"? I'm surprised there weren't three trigger warnings at the beginning of this e-mail because, for supposedly talking to hundreds of thousands of CSA survivors she has shit bedside manner.

I was going to say the same thing. They sound like babies and I agree, super insulting.

I quit reading it halfway in.

 

[comrade666]

If that really is the email the lack of professionalism is astounding.

 

[generalsneezus]

Honestly, I want her to give an explanation on how not just little Nan, but little NIN/chloe knew about the grotesque comic. I’m still thoroughly baffled by how their amnesia walls exist but yet the kids know of everything the other alters do.

 

[heavycream]

If that really is the email the lack of professionalism is astounding.

That email is rather telling when you compare it to the way new users showing up here write their first posts. It must be that masturbating one's own emotions and oversharing are inherent to this "community of mental health advocates".

 

[orangathan]

Autumn? Is it Autumn Asphodel by any chance, the OG DID malignerer? Probably not the same person, but it really has come full circle lol. Autumn Asphodel has recently pretended that he never claimed to have DID, despite gaining his popularity with one of the first "meet my alters" videos to pop up on YouTube in 2015.

 

[snowflakesystem]

It's not even the lack of professionalism there, it's the fact that there is yet again someone trying to make this situation about how it's hurt THEM as a Precious, UwU Individual. Like, good for them trying to help people with venting (lmao) but why include all of the 'oh this has hurt you, and ALSO ME' and 'oh i've cried soooo many times'

It's like powerleveling on here. Like, you're a business. You're presenting yourself as a business, not particularly as a person. Why are you explaining about how sad you are? Just address the situation.

 

[NoWords]

I’m still thoroughly baffled by how their amnesia walls exist but yet the kids know of everything the other alters do

It's not that baffling if it's fake.

it's the fact that there is yet again someone trying to make this situation about how it's hurt THEM as a Precious, UwU Individual.

Yea, I don't know why I opened it thinking it would be anything other than that shit.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

Autumn? Is it Autumn Asphodel by any chance, the OG DID malignerer? Probably not the same person, but it really has come full circle lol. Autumn Asphodel has recently pretended that he never claimed to have DID, despite gaining his popularity with one of the first "meet my alters" videos to pop up on YouTube in 2015.

Autumn Farr, CEO of toi magazine

 

[generalsneezus]

It's not that baffling if it's fake.

You got a point there

 

[Enoby Way]

Autumn Farr, CEO of toi magazine

Does anyone know if that Autumn Farr is the same as this Dr Autumn W Farr? It's such a specific name but the two don't seem to be connected. Otherwise I'd expect to see Dr Autumn Farr, CEO of Toi Magazine. But still.

(no title)

Dr Autumn W Farr is a naturopathic physician in Bellingham, WA. She specializes in constitutional homeopathy, nutritional biochemistry, and mind-body medicine.

quantumhealingnaturopathicmedicine.com

 

[c*ndy c*rn b*tch]

It's like powerleveling on here. Like, you're a business. You're presenting yourself as a business, not particularly as a person. Why are you explaining about how sad you are? Just address the situation.

Because all of these "businesses" are being run by histrionic/narcissistic/cluster B individuals who are doing all of this purely to feed their own need for attention. If they ever did actually manage to accidentally "help" anybody I think they couldn't care less, deep down. It's completely incidental.

 

[Mistook for Human]

I will simply point out that Chloe makes ungodly amounts of cash from her youtube alone(according to Social Blade, anything between 3k and 48k PER MONTH). Ungodly amounts of dough will make anyone be anything and say anything. People with real psychiatric problems, however, are usually uncapable of acting so coherently that they could run a Youtube channel this efficiently.

Do your own math.

Hmm. Good point. I still don't know though. She does not come off as very intelligent to me. Especially since no one who is actually intelligent brags about it like I have heard Chloe talk. The way she and her "alters" act is almost like she is stuck in middle school trying to act like an adult. Even the way she would talk to Nan in that baby voice. I don't think those were "littles" coming out but reminds me of the preppy girls in middle school baby talking guys to come off as cute. (Cringe fest) I just don't see her as being smart enough to fake such a serious thing. At this point I think she has lied or exaggerated about a lot of stuff to get sympathy points and more money.
However! The one thing I just can't get passed is the amount of suicide attempts. 4 in one day and not one worked. I call bs. Maybe she pretended to take a bunch of pills because she wasn't getting enough attention but was well aware she wouldn't die. Then proceeded the exaggerate the situation.
Idk.... more and more stuff is coming out and slowly changing my mind.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

Does anyone know if that Autumn Farr is the same as this Dr Autumn W Farr? It's such a specific name but the two don't seem to be connected.

(no title)

Dr Autumn W Farr is a naturopathic physician in Bellingham, WA. She specializes in constitutional homeopathy, nutritional biochemistry, and mind-body medicine.

quantumhealingnaturopathicmedicine.com

I doubt it


@Mistook for Human: god I hope you’re not in high school

 

[im_here_for_number_5]

Toi Magazine: It’s still okay to to self-diagnose, pay us for your trip to delusion and for extra comfort, here are short, easy to read validation paragraphs mimicking your silly yt heroes because most of you have never even seen a professional letter.

I dunno lads, if this is real it seems like Toi knows what they’re doing.

Hats off to Pickless

 

[generalsneezus]

It's not even the lack of professionalism there, it's the fact that there is yet again someone trying to make this situation about how it's hurt THEM as a Precious, UwU Individual. Like, good for them trying to help people with venting (lmao) but why include all of the 'oh this has hurt you, and ALSO ME' and 'oh i've cried soooo many times'

It's like powerleveling on here. Like, you're a business. You're presenting yourself as a business, not particularly as a person. Why are you explaining about how sad you are? Just address the situation.

That’s what I’ve noticed, I’ve seen a lot of selfish and egocentric undertones not just in the authorities, but in the community. Ie: when people were saying they were traumatized by the images Nan drew, all of the fans were like “how DAREEE you your accusations are just going to cause Nan and us more trauma you sick twisted idiots” (despite the fact that it’s just an opinion and as grown ass adults they should have the maturity to respect that person’s freedom of speech). How could you insult and badger someone for feeling traumatized by such explicit images, but feel sooo obliged to protect Nin, Nan or themselves over any form of skepticism whatsoever? Its like Nan, Nin and the community’s trauma>>>>all others.
Also, I’m so tired of suicide and self harm being a flex. It’s like the boy who cried wolf. The more you brag about it to me, the more I’ll just suggest you either see a licensed therapist or doctor, or I’ll just become nonchalant.
Also, who comes off after a suicide attempt less than a day later to make a tik tok saying “Ow You Hurt Us” like that was absolutely comical to me. That just shows how instead of getting professional help, they’d rather guilt trip people for having opinions.
I hate to say it but, if you can’t take criticism, just remove yourself from the internet. And half of it isn’t criticism, it’s genuine skepticism and people trying to decipher these disorders, but nooo you can’t ask any questions. Um, how did science advance in the first place? By questioning the “norm”. Copernicus was heavily chastised for thinking the Sun was in the center of the galaxy, but he was right. People have to be open minded when it comes to science, because theories are always changing as new evidence is discovered.
Honestly, if me having an opinion means not being accepted by this community, so be it. At least all of us have the cognitive awareness to formulate our own opinions without caring what people think. Those are the people who truly advance science.

 

[NoWords]

I just don't see her as being smart enough to fake such a serious thing

As just mentioned in this thread there are various theories and conflicting information that surrounds DID. This makes it easy for even the dumbest of people to twist it to fit their narrative. It also helps when you are constantly hearing how "Everyone's system is different".

 

[Enoby Way]

Hmm. Good point. I still don't know though. She does not come off as very intelligent to me.

There are a lot of different types of intelligence. Look at how Trisha Paytas, Tana Mongeau, etc, are absolute trainwrecks of human beings and still have a pretty great life. They aren't making intelligent decisions but they got as far as they have because they still have a nose for this stuff despite themselves. Admittedly she's not the same sort of person Trish and Tana are, but even if you don't think Chloe is that intelligent, she's still clearly cunning as fuck.

 

[lamp]

Edit: I’m a fucking idiot

 

[incorrigible shit goblin]

Call me an autist but... I feel like taking a stance on whether or not DID exists is not really conducive to the thread. It's just going to take away from the real point of it which is that- whether DID is real or not- Chloe and Nan are malingering. Or deluded. Or whatever they are. And we're here to observe what they do. Right now there haven't been many new things (aside from the email from EntitleDID to Life) to discuss.

I feel like there is a lot here that is going wildly off topic and should maybe be discussed in the Plural thread? Other systems, like DID and Me, M&M, Entropy, DID Mom (who needs her own thread honestly), Fragmented Psyche, etc, should be discussed there too. I keep checking back for new info and all I see is a shit ton of posts throwing out the same shit over and over again. I'll admit, I've been guilty of it too.

EDIT: I love a good discussion about it, I love reading what people with differing opinions have to say, but I just think this thread is getting... crowded?

 

[heterotic]

Does anyone know if that Autumn Farr is the same as this Dr Autumn W Farr? It's such a specific name but the two don't seem to be connected. Otherwise I'd expect to see Dr Autumn Farr, CEO of Toi Magazine. But still.

(no title)

Dr Autumn W Farr is a naturopathic physician in Bellingham, WA. She specializes in constitutional homeopathy, nutritional biochemistry, and mind-body medicine.

quantumhealingnaturopathicmedicine.com

No. Autumn Farr of Toi is not a doctor.

https://www.instagram.com/autumn.farr/

She also lives in California, iirc

She lives in California, and she sounds just as annoying on a podcast as she does in that email:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-autumn-overcame-childhood-abuse-002/id1458997522?i=1000434707077

Spoiler: Autumn's "trauma" is her slightly older female cousin picking on her and "getting a punch or a couple of punches" ON THE ARM OR LEG while they were being watched by their grandparents and her "disorganized attachment" is because her mom told her to hit her cousin back.

Autumn is self-diagnosed with cPTSD and has never been diagnosed with anything by a clinician.