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Up close, Nan's arm is twice as repulsive. Has anyone heard her mention those guinea pigs recently?
Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata
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Up close, Nan's arm is twice as repulsive. Has anyone heard her mention those guinea pigs recently?
That’s not nice to say. However, looking at her FB and self portraits, I saw those scars were more than six years old. She already drew her own likeness with the hideous scarring.
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Fuck me, that armNan with Chloe’s new guinea pigs
Another note on the (complete speculation) that Chloe may have watched the doc/read the book re Helen - Helen suffered from an eating disorder and an obsession with fitness/running especially as a teen/young adult. She would go out and spend literal hours running for miles and then obsessively clean her running shoes. Went through a period of barely eating, etc. She used cocaine and speed to lose weight after anti-psychotics caused her to balloon because she couldn't stand being fat (and became a coke addict - new Chloe arc when pls) I dunno, I'm convinced she'd have at least watched the documentary on Helen as its easily found on YT when searching for DID documentaries. The book who knows, it took me a little googling of "what happened to Helen" type shit to eventually arrive at it but the vague hints to being burned by an abuser and the SRA could have easily been swiped by Chloe. The burning in particular is very specific and Helen's was on the bottoms of her feet with a lighter, which would be a convenient place for Chloe to hint at. I sense I'm wandering into autism territory here but it continues to provide the thunks for me.
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I always found it odd that whenever Nan or Jeremy (can't remember which one), would age slide to a 12 year old, they would act VERY childish as if they were 5 or 6. I would watch that and think, no 12 year old acts that way, in fact most people around 12 are trying to act older and would never sit around playing make believe with stuffed animals making them sing songs. They would also talk like someone who is still figuring out the english language and stumbling over their words (again like you'd hear from someone around age 5-6), definitely NOT how a 12 year old speaks.
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Who said I was nice?
Fuck me, that arm
Another note on the (complete speculation) that Chloe may have watched the doc/read the book re Helen - Helen suffered from an eating disorder and an obsession with fitness/running especially as a teen/young adult. She would go out and spend literal hours running for miles and then obsessively clean her running shoes. Went through a period of barely eating, etc. She used cocaine and speed to lose weight after anti-psychotics caused her to balloon because she couldn't stand being fat (and became a coke addict - new Chloe arc when pls) I dunno, I'm convinced she'd have at least watched the documentary on Helen as its easily found on YT when searching for DID documentaries. The book who knows, it took me a little googling of "what happened to Helen" type shit to eventually arrive at it but the vague hints to being burned by an abuser and the SRA could have easily been swiped by Chloe. The burning in particular is very specific and Helen's was on the bottoms of her feet with a lighter, which would be a convenient place for Chloe to hint at. I sense I'm wandering into autism territory here but it continues to provide the thunks for me.
I think I need to read this book or at least watch the end of the documentary if she's ripping off her story that closely. Chloe said in that PTSD video that she felt sensation of the bottom half of her body during a flashback. She also said she needed to walk or keep her legs moving to get rid of the sensation from what I remember. Interesting.
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Hey, new to this thread, had something interesting I observed in a video
so in this instance (her debunking did part one video), she discusses why male alters may form. She states on of the reasons may be because of csa, females may convince themselves “ok, maybe if I had a male body I’d be stronger/I’d be less prone to abuse,” so they create male alters.
She notably captions it “trying not to trigger myself,” and when she’s discussing it, starts to sort of doze off and stop talking. understandable, Csa is a tough topic for anyone to discuss but it seems this was clearly affecting her personally as she states here things such as csa are a trigger for her.
If I’m not mistaken, I remember one tweet stating kyle was created around age 4. As she states here, male alters can be created from moments of csa, and seems to show personal attachment/emotion towards that statement. This, to me, insinuates that she may have been trying to signal that the formation of her male alter kyle was linked to an occurrence of csa very on in her life (age four) which contradicts her statements denying rape/even knowing about any abuse. Again, just me speculating, she could forgotten or kyle’s formation may not be linked to csa, but the fact that she gets triggered/says it’s triggering specifically when mentioning why csa may cause male alters to form at a YOUNG age makes me think that the claim is csa is the way kyle formed, and if her parents or her don’t know why but she was only four (most kids only in daycare and mainly around parents)...then hm.
so in this instance (her debunking did part one video), she discusses why male alters may form. She states on of the reasons may be because of csa, females may convince themselves “ok, maybe if I had a male body I’d be stronger/I’d be less prone to abuse,” so they create male alters.
She notably captions it “trying not to trigger myself,” and when she’s discussing it, starts to sort of doze off and stop talking. understandable, Csa is a tough topic for anyone to discuss but it seems this was clearly affecting her personally as she states here things such as csa are a trigger for her.
If I’m not mistaken, I remember one tweet stating kyle was created around age 4. As she states here, male alters can be created from moments of csa, and seems to show personal attachment/emotion towards that statement. This, to me, insinuates that she may have been trying to signal that the formation of her male alter kyle was linked to an occurrence of csa very on in her life (age four) which contradicts her statements denying rape/even knowing about any abuse. Again, just me speculating, she could forgotten or kyle’s formation may not be linked to csa, but the fact that she gets triggered/says it’s triggering specifically when mentioning why csa may cause male alters to form at a YOUNG age makes me think that the claim is csa is the way kyle formed, and if her parents or her don’t know why but she was only four (most kids only in daycare and mainly around parents)...then hm.
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I'll see if there's any way I can get it off of my Kindle and convert to PDF or something. Never tried before but it'd save you needing to buy it (though it was pretty cheap on Kindle anyways if you have one)
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She got this from Multiplicity & Me, who gives that exact reasoning that her alters are male.
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The thing is, if anyone questions it she only has to say that she (as the host) does not remember her abuse so in videos it makes sense that she will deny ever being sexually abused. Her alters that are holding the trauma like Jade will just stare into the camera with dead eyes and say in a low voice that they will never discuss the trauma (understandable if it actually happened) on camera. She has the perfect excuse / disorder for all the inconsistencies in her stories... she'll just say it was the amnesia walls confusing her and muddling her memories. None of these things add up, to me it's obvious that she is lying but at the end of the day her little cult have all the excuses ready if anyone raises doubt.
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Welp. There’s my answer, then, unless we can find proof that she suffered some kind of ED before the DID shit.
Uh... I didn’t even know she had guinea pigs. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her mention them until that post just now.
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Might be on Z library to be honest I just haven't had time to check.
She's mentioned the gym and general fitness in this university group chat I'm skimming through and technically that was before diagnosis. I won't have time to go through it in depths and get it into a readable format for a few days as I've got real work to do but I'll be sure to look out for any mentions of disordered behaviour. As it's a psychology chat they do tend to overshare a little.
As for the guinea pigs, I know she pulled them out in a few live streams with Nan. I just wondered if they were being taken care of whilst Chloe has her little break down.
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Not much going on lately with Nan banished and Chloe laying low. Posting that picture of Chloe in that ridiculous dress reminded me of something I found a while ago. It's not much, but I didn't think Nan's DeviantArt was much either, and we all know what happened there.
The picture is from Chloe's social media. She also uses it in an somewhat official capacity. It's in the article about her for Toi Magazine, for instance. IIRC, the picture was taken during her birthday dinner. Shortly after this she experienced trauma, made the post about someone blaming her for being assaulted, and went on to make a video about how clothes don't equal consent.
And, to be clear, they absolutely don't. As utterly ridiculous as that dress is, it's not an open invitation. And the screenshots of the text messages someone sent her about whatever happened were totally out of line taken at face value.
Anyway, I sharpened the screenshots slightly and read them. The bolded bits are what she highlighted and didn't blur out.
screenshot 1:
"your safety. You do not let this individual get away with it. [? ? ] fucking way. And do not let people do that in any form of way. If you let him get away with this, then it's open for more things to happen. Do NOT let this slide and leave it open for things to happen again. You're fucking stronger than that. You're a [fiery? ] bitch and you can fight and stand up for your fucking self."
screenshot 2:
tail end of the text from the previous screenshot followed by... "You do not let this overcome you or anything. Ok? This will definitely be brutal, but you need to grow some fucking balls and report him. That is absolutely disgusting. If I was still with you and I didn't have to be in at 1 in uni tomorrow, I would be on that fucking train."
The way she edited, definitely make the person sending it (possibly her ex? ) sound monstrous, like they're telling her she's being disgusting. In context, it reads more like someone who cares about her being horrified on her behalf and doing their best to be supportive
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The picture is from Chloe's social media. She also uses it in an somewhat official capacity. It's in the article about her for Toi Magazine, for instance. IIRC, the picture was taken during her birthday dinner. Shortly after this she experienced trauma, made the post about someone blaming her for being assaulted, and went on to make a video about how clothes don't equal consent.
And, to be clear, they absolutely don't. As utterly ridiculous as that dress is, it's not an open invitation. And the screenshots of the text messages someone sent her about whatever happened were totally out of line taken at face value.
Anyway, I sharpened the screenshots slightly and read them. The bolded bits are what she highlighted and didn't blur out.
screenshot 1:
"your safety. You do not let this individual get away with it. [? ? ] fucking way. And do not let people do that in any form of way. If you let him get away with this, then it's open for more things to happen. Do NOT let this slide and leave it open for things to happen again. You're fucking stronger than that. You're a [fiery? ] bitch and you can fight and stand up for your fucking self."
screenshot 2:
tail end of the text from the previous screenshot followed by... "You do not let this overcome you or anything. Ok? This will definitely be brutal, but you need to grow some fucking balls and report him. That is absolutely disgusting. If I was still with you and I didn't have to be in at 1 in uni tomorrow, I would be on that fucking train."
The way she edited, definitely make the person sending it (possibly her ex? ) sound monstrous, like they're telling her she's being disgusting. In context, it reads more like someone who cares about her being horrified on her behalf and doing their best to be supportive
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That's likely to be Jamie, isn't it? It's difficult to read but I think you've got it right. It definitely reads as 'tough love' and perhaps isn't the most sensitive thing one could say to someone who has just been assaulted but it does clearly come from a place of concern. Whoever this is is clearly angry on her behalf, but having supportive friends who get that riled up for her doesn't fit her narrative.
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I have it off the Kindle and converted to PDF - I'm just making sure all of the meta tags and shit are clean and can't be linked back to my Kindle account etc then I'll share a Mega link for you and anyone else who is interested in reading it.
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lurked this entire thread (you can usually find me in with the munchies) because I had nothing of interest to say but I am finally chiming in here to say... da fuq? there are SO MANY SIGNS that point to an ED with Chloe. whether or not she is currently sitting at a "healthy weight" or not means nothing you absolute dipshit.
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I would take that with a grain of salt. Anorexic behavior in junior high/high school/early college is socially contagious, and the community around it is not that much different than the DID community. It's like a cool thing they are proud of. People with diagnosable EDs are so ashamed of themselves and their behavior makes it hard to socialize and have relationships. Whatever anorexic behaviors she may or may not have had was probably more factitious than anything else, and that to me is clear by how she talks about it.
I said earlier in the thread she'd be the type to join a proana community, but what I meant by that was that most of the people in those communities do not have a diagnosable ED. They are essentially trying to "catch" it. They mainly post "thinspiration" and food pictures trying to trigger themselves into anorexia. A very small portion of community members will post "progress" pics, but rarely are they even underweight, let alone a BMI of under 17.
And while that's not healthy, it's more histrionic and factitious.
Similarly to the DID community, there is this "no one is faking!" attitude that shuts down any possible question trying to understand why these young people try to actively develop an ED. I've seen very little research or academia on this, and I only once saw it referred to as a "secondary eating or feeding disorder", in which it was remarked as "adoption of factitious elements of disordered eating".
An article from someone who faked bulimia.
You are correct in that weight doesn't give us any insight into her relationship with her body image or food.
Neither does anything else, other than the fact that she really hasn't shown any of the behavior I've ever seen with others with an ED.
I'd love to hear what clues you've seen.
I agree it sounds like she was talking to Jamie, especially the mention of being there with her, but having to be at uni. Either way, this person is trying to be supportive and encouraging. And while maybe at the moment something happens, you might be upset with a loved one over how they encouraged you to report it, years later, you'd be thanking them for trying. This is clearly a manipulative spin, in my opinion.
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What signs besides the obvious posts about her weight and her stomach and all that? Genuine question, because I haven’t really seen anything else.
Also, are those signs genuine or is she playing into the “ED can be co-morbid with DID and other trauma related illnesses/disorders”? Yeah, there were the messages in the student group chat saying she wanted to go to the gym before she even got her DID diagnosis, but considering it seems like she went to that uni and specifically sought out Aquafresh for a diagnosis, she may have been lying about the ED and saying that to build her narrative or whatever. Though, it wouldn’t make much sense since she joked about her own suicide in the group chat.
Who knows. An eating disorder does not make one lie and scam people. It could very well just be her being health-conscious but exaggerating it.
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Newfag. Been watching these channels for a very long time and have consumed most of all their content. (yes im a sad sack) I just find 'exceptional individuals' fascinating... i enjoy breaking my neck watching the car wreck as i pass by.
In one of the first vlogs where Nan visits Chloe theyre in England somewhere, perhaps London in some big estate LARPing around acting eejits when they have to take a seat as a load of school kids were on a field trip and you could hear them in the background. Nan was getting visibly upset and Chloe explained that "children were a trigger for Nan'' - I found that ...interesting, at the time. Video is now gone if the person in this thread is correct and they have deleted all videos with Nan.
I had trouble getting myself onto this website to comment, spent the last couple of days reading the thread in bursts. I had something else to tell you but itll have to wait until my big brain can think what it was...
In one of the first vlogs where Nan visits Chloe theyre in England somewhere, perhaps London in some big estate LARPing around acting eejits when they have to take a seat as a load of school kids were on a field trip and you could hear them in the background. Nan was getting visibly upset and Chloe explained that "children were a trigger for Nan'' - I found that ...interesting, at the time. Video is now gone if the person in this thread is correct and they have deleted all videos with Nan.
I had trouble getting myself onto this website to comment, spent the last couple of days reading the thread in bursts. I had something else to tell you but itll have to wait until my big brain can think what it was...
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I definitely don't doubt that her dip in the lake happened and that police were involved at all. It seems like something Chloe would do and I'm sure she exaggerated it as well.
I do think, however, that the way it was handled my UEA is more in line with a non-academic misconduct offense, and that would explain her "I have to go to therapy before going back to school" and "school didn't allow me back even though I went to therapy" story. UEA has engagement with specified services listed as a discipline for high non-academic offenses (swimming in the broad) and it's likely Pottergate was not the service she was directed to, hence why she wouldn't have been allowed back. The lack of a missing report and the fact she was only "missing" for a short amount of time are further indications of this.
If that was the case, she would have blatantly been lying in her gofundme for therapy and instead using that money to go shopping for a therapist and diagnosis. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
EDIT: These are the mental health services the university recommends.
Note that Pottergate isn't on the list. She likely would have been referred to one of these.
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Catching up with the thread and I don't think I've seen someone mention this yet? Been following this since it was at 80 pages and I've read a lot in a short period of time so correct me if I'm wrong.
There were some parts in vlogs of Nan's that I watched before she wiped her channel where Chloe would pet Nan as Riven (or Evan??? whatever) and Nan would purr like a cat would. Very hard to watch, made me want to gouge my eyes out. Unfortunately, I can't source the video because she deleted them all. But the two of them engaging in weird furry petplay definitely wouldn't surprise me.