Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[heavycream]

Yesterday I was watching the livestream where Chloe 'triggers' herself when she's talking about the smell of cigarette smoke, I wonder if finding everything she says is a trigger could lead to either cohesion or discrepancies in whatever story she's trying to tell about her trauma

That would be an arduous task, as she is triggered by everything.

 

[Becomingablueberry]

it's funny, I live in norwich and wish I had the money to go to the potter gate centre to see if I can get "diagnosed" when I definitely don't have DID
as it seems from reading this thread all you have to do Is pay and say there are people in my head and BANG you come out using we pronouns and a fancy system name

 

[THOTto]

There is so much wrong with every word here.

Lol, just rate their post disagree and move on nigger.

 

[lamp]

esterday I was watching the livestream where Chloe 'triggers' herself when she's talking about the smell of cigarette smoke, I wonder if finding everything she says is a trigger could lead to either cohesion or discrepancies in whatever story she's trying to tell about her trauma

Spoiler: 29 Dec 2016 - Text

if smoke triggered her then why is she talking about 420 blaze it time?

she shows no signs of ”switching” or even having a different personality. What’s the chance of never texting unless she’s chloe ... you’d think her supposed alters would pick up the phone too.

Comrade deserves the presidential award.

 

[Shrryph1]

Chloe sorta seems like a girl who can’t handle her booze.

Lol, just rate their post disagree and move on nigger.

I’m moved on. But now we’re in love because you used the ‘Er’.

Annnd, I actually finished reading the chat log. What a freak. She made it sound like she won some sort of game going missing for two hours. Just laughing and bragging. If I went missing for two hours on a night of drinking, my friends would be beyond furious with me trying to laugh it off. They might kill me themselves.

 

[DissociaDONT]

-Chloe's friend Rowena was admitted to hospital for emergency surgery shortly before Chloe's suicide mission. Chloe did not acknowledge this and shortly after took her dip in the lake.
-Rowena remained in hospital during Chloe's 'go big or go home' speech. Chloe did not once check on Rowena despite other members of the group asking how she was.

One would hope that she checked on her outside of the group chat of 100+ people. Not that it seems like there was much she seemed ashamed to say in that group chat.

To hear Chloe tell it, this was the worst year of her life. She lost her friends after the swim, and they didn't check on her or so much as message her while SHE was in the hospital. She did say that they thought she had done it over the break up. Was it definitely Jamie she broke up with? Did they get back together immediately post-swim? If so, that seems more than a little manipulative and grounds for friends being uncomfortable around you.

 

[Cooking Mama]

1 Dec 2016, 23:06 Lottie Dowling does anyone know if we include a design section in the method section? if so what experimental design is a questionnaire?

Living for Lottie just casually ignoring these drunk idiots in the student chat and asking about homework. I don’t know why they weren’t using the smaller chat that was mentioned.

ETA: why does Jamie keep saying “done” to everything? Makes him look a bit dick-ish.

 

[BigBadgerArse]

One would hope that she checked on her outside of the group chat of 100+ people. Not that it seems like there was much she seemed ashamed to say in that group chat.

To hear Chloe tell it, this was the worst year of her life. She lost her friends after the swim, and they didn't check on her or so much as message her while SHE was in the hospital. She did say that they thought she had done it over the break up. Was it definitely Jamie she broke up with? Did they get back together immediately post-swim? If so, that seems more than a little manipulative and grounds for friends being uncomfortable around you.

I was thinking maybe she was checking in with her in private messages too, her friend didnt seem to be as active in the group chat, ones that Chloe was a part of anyway...

Chloe is quite an intense person, id imagine she was quite problematic to be around, surrounded by drama and big tails no doubt and even worse with a drink, which there were many. People naturally distance themselves from that kind of thing. Also if you didnt have a strong connection (less than two months she knew these uni friends) you wouldnt want to stick about once you get the jist of what she was like. Very likely they have their own problems too.. as its a field a lot of folk with bad mental health get into.

Edit: Misspelled tails by accident, but kinda funny when you think of the furry werecat stuff hah so ill leave it.

 

[prettybad]

Lurk, Many thanks for the share although I too want to kick this guy’s ass for what he did to his daughter and I’ve only just started reading it. The truly sick thing is that Chloe’s already ripped off more than 50% of it for her own back story. Reading this book is going to be hard enough thanks to the subject but knowing that some scam artist is profiting off of people like Helen...? It’s too much.

I've just started, but the way Helen describes her family dynamics makes me think of a comment Chloe made in one her videos about having been expected to be "the perfect daughter" and how detrimental that was to her mental health/growing up.

This video is also particularly hint-heavy, as it starts out with Chloe rambling on about a post she'd seen on tumblr, which allegedly said "you can't heal in the environment you got sick in", to which she claims she responded with "watch me, bitch".

This seems particularly of interest considering how supportive her parents appear to be, which has been mentioned in this thread. In one of Nan's vlogs, where she and Chloe go to a castle(?)/manor(?)/something beginning with K (Kensworth? Curse my autism), Nan starts acting like a child and hugging a hedge shaped like a caterpillar. There is the voice of an older woman in the background laughing and making friendly comments about it, if memory serves. At the time I saw it, I wondered if that could be Chloe's mother, as it seemed odd for a stranger to get involved in that way. Any chance for a downloaded version, if you know which one I'm talking about @comrade666 ? This is also one of the only videos/vlogs I'd ever seen where Chloe actually has her cane - and doesn't neglect to mention it and make a big deal out of how she forgot it in the bathroom.

 

[undefined]

Longtime-lurking britbong here. Thanks for this thread, been waiting for this for a long time.

I‘ve got a chloe/UEA speculative theory. It has already been said that chloe being ‘expelled‘ (as she says) from her uni on mental health grounds is very unlikely, but there is one way this could be possible although calling it expulsion is pushing it. I consider it more likely than her being expelled for misconduct or the like (she does not strike me as the type at all), I’ve seen it happen to mental health malingering students, and it would mean that Chloe hadn’t outright lied about her uni experience, just significantly twisted the truth in order to victimise herself.

If a student takes an interruption of studies/IOS, it is often as a result of multiple missed coursework deadlines that would normally result in failure. There has to have been a reason behind the mess they’re in (medical, financial and personal reasons are accepted at UEA) in order to have an IOS approved, which normally requires evidence (a doctor’s note is often enough). A student with multiple missed deadlines would be required to complete all the missing work before returning the following year. If that work has not been completed at the point of returning, the student is not allowed re-entry because they’ve already had their chance. It doesn’t matter what your ‘diagnosis’ is, if you haven’t been able to complete the outstanding assignments in the year long break that the uni allowed you, either you have disregarded a commitment you made to the university or you are simply too ill to be a student.

I can totally see Chloe ending up in this position because she was too busy being a munchie influencer to bother with anything else, and then crying dIsCrImInAtIoN when she wasn’t allowed back in.

 

[AGodThatDoesntExist]

Chloe 'triggers' herself when she's talking about the smell of cigarette smoke

In the live stream I saw of the two of them Nan was blowing fat clouds from a vape, but she's no stranger to smoking so I wonder how that worked

 

[sparklegiraffe]

In the live stream I saw of the two of them Nan was blowing fat clouds from a vape, but she's no stranger to smoking so I wonder how that worked

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She said vaping was different because it's like a 'fun cloud that smells like strawberries' but they were also talking about how Nan smokes but was trying to quit for Chloe. Then while talking about how the smell of cigarettes clings to you she triggered herself and stared at the camera until she had a 'breakdown' and Nan ended the stream. This was like two hours into the video, which was titled something like 'I got triggered during a live?!'
They also spent the first ten minutes talking to eachother like babies while nan tried to 'age herself up'. It was honestly disgusting and I only skipped through to see what the trigger was.

 

[comrade666]

One would hope that she checked on her outside of the group chat of 100+ people. Not that it seems like there was much she seemed ashamed to say in that group chat.

She was very active in the group chat and Rowena discussed her hospitalisation on a few occasions. Chloe seemingly had nothing to say but I'm not surprised - narcissists don't tend to care about external problems and Chloe seems to revel in the attention. I suspect she was probably jealous of the attention Rowena was given but I have nothing to support that.

Was it definitely Jamie she broke up with?

Not certain, but I think she was dating someone from Colchester. It could have been James Darby - he last posted with her in January 2016 but his social media is relatively private so they may have been together for a little longer without sharing anything publicly. Chloe had already lined Jamie up as a replacement though.

Living for Lottie just casually ignoring these drunk idiots in the student chat and asking about homework. I don’t know why they weren’t using the smaller chat that was mentioned.

Chloe tended to disappear when discussing turned to classwork. She does dip in occasionally to ask about deadlines and things of that nature but she doesn't strike me as particularly concerned about her degree.

ETA: why does Jamie keep saying “done” to everything? Makes him look a bit dick-ish.

Jamie comes across as That Guy - quite creepy but thinks he's everyone's best friend.

you wouldnt want to stick about once you get the jist of what she was like.

Makes you wonder why Jamie stuck around for almost three years.

There is the voice of an older woman in the background laughing and making friendly comments about it, if memory serves. At the time I saw it, I wondered if that could be Chloe's mother, as it seemed odd for a stranger to get involved in that way. Any chance for a downloaded version, if you know which one I'm talking about @comrade666 ? This is also one of the only videos/vlogs I'd ever seen where Chloe actually has her cane - and doesn't neglect to mention it and make a big deal out of how she forgot it in the bathroom.

Really don't think I've got that one archived. I did quickly look through my hard drive but I can't see a title or thumbnail that stands out. I'll take another look later in the week when I've got more time - sounds like an interesting watch.

ETA - Source has provided the missing images from the chat. I'm currently editing the post to include them.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

What’s up with Chloe and dating guys whose names start with J? John, James, Jamie...

 

[braginskayas]

I‘ve got a chloe/UEA speculative theory. It has already been said that chloe being ‘expelled‘ (as she says) from her uni on mental health grounds is very unlikely, but there is one way this could be possible although calling it expulsion is pushing it. I consider it more likely than her being expelled for misconduct or the like (she does not strike me as the type at all), I’ve seen it happen to mental health malingering students, and it would mean that Chloe hadn’t outright lied about her uni experience, just significantly twisted the truth in order to victimise herself.

If a student takes an interruption of studies/IOS, it is often as a result of multiple missed coursework deadlines that would normally result in failure. There has to have been a reason behind the mess they’re in (medical, financial and personal reasons are accepted at UEA) in order to have an IOS approved, which normally requires evidence (a doctor’s note is often enough). A student with multiple missed deadlines would be required to complete all the missing work before returning the following year. If that work has not been completed at the point of returning, the student is not allowed re-entry because they’ve already had their chance. It doesn’t matter what your ‘diagnosis’ is, if you haven’t been able to complete the outstanding assignments in the year long break that the uni allowed you, either you have disregarded a commitment you made to the university or you are simply too ill to be a student.

I actually think something along these lines is the most likely scenario. Given that, by her own admission, Chloe was missing most of her classes due to her mental health, it's not too much of a stretch to assume she also missed a bunch of exams/assignment deadlines or completed the work to a poor standard and failed the year as a result. I've known students who failed their finals and applied for a retroactive leave of absence on mental health grounds, effectively allowing them to repeat the year where in ordinary circumstances they would have been kicked out of university. You can also apply for an interruption of studies/leave of absence if you're struggling to complete the assignments and believe you need to take time out before completing the year/semester, which might be what happened to Chloe if she only made it halfway through her first year.

Usually for a LOA/IOS, you need to provide some evidence of extenuating circumstances (e.g. a doctor's note) proving why you should be allowed to repeat the year, similar to if you need to postpone sitting exams or submit your assignments late. It's normally on health/mental health grounds, or because of personal issues like bereavement. It's entirely possible that, if Chloe simply got her "diagnosis" of DID from Pottergate and then pursued no further formal therapy during her year out (I highly doubt BetterHelp or reading about DID on Tumblr counts), the university simply didn't view that as sufficient evidence she'd been unfit to study and didn't let her return to repeat the year on that basis. Makes more sense than them finding out she had DID and not allowing her back because she was a "threat", which - if she really did have DID - probably would count as discrimination of some kind.

There is a kind of grey area here where it could be interpreted as discrimination against disabled/mentally ill students (I know in particular it can be an issue for people with rare or obvious-but-undiagnosed health issues), and I can completely see how liars and malingerers could manipulate that side of the argument to fit their narrative.

Of course, if it's true students at UEA can get kicked out/face disciplinary action for going in the campus lake, it could also be the case that Chloe got expelled on non-academic grounds if the people dealing with her case believed she was simply drunk/messing about rather than making a legitimate suicide attempt. Who knows.

 

[Ismellbullshit]

Went through the thread again to see if this had been posted already and couldn't find it anywhere.

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So much for never posting about her so called little's online. Wouldn't one of her protectors, Jade especially, have stopped her from posting this or deleted it.

As autistic as this is about to sound I'm being 100% serious. In the UK we have social housing. Not sure how it works in US but if you have a disability or just have kids you can get a free house and have your rent paid. As of the last few years housing Development for social housing has had a massive budget increase to improve old houses and build new. THAT PERTICULAR tile she currently has on the photo is a standard social housing bathroom tile. Just assume I know what I'm talking about without having to TMI.
Its in almost every social housing disability bathroom in Britain. Meaning our girl either claims disability benefit, or has previously. Or its just a coincidence.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Rate me late since this thread had been moving so fast, but in other news Nan is safe. Her ex also clarifies some situations regarding his involvement with Nan's OCs.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

As autistic as this is about to sound I'm being 100% serious. In the UK we have social housing. Not sure how it works in US but if you have a disability or just have kids you can get a free house and have your rent paid. As of the last few years housing Development for social housing has had a massive budget increase to improve old houses and build new. THAT PERTICULAR tile she currently has on the photo is a standard social housing bathroom tile. Just assume I know what I'm talking about without having to TMI.
Its in almost every social housing disability bathroom in Britain. Meaning our girl either claims disability benefit, or has previously. Or its just a coincidence.

Chloe has stated that she applied for disability benefits but was denied. She’s also posted about her housing situation on multiple sites. I doubt she was in public housing, unless maybe visiting a friend with a henna kit.

 

[Punkinsplice]

Something about sticking your dick in crazy...Oh yeah. Don't.

 

[comrade666]

As autistic as this is about to sound I'm being 100% serious. In the UK we have social housing. Not sure how it works in US but if you have a disability or just have kids you can get a free house and have your rent paid. As of the last few years housing Development for social housing has had a massive budget increase to improve old houses and build new. THAT PERTICULAR tile she currently has on the photo is a standard social housing bathroom tile. Just assume I know what I'm talking about without having to TMI.
Its in almost every social housing disability bathroom in Britain. Meaning our girl either claims disability benefit, or has previously. Or its just a coincidence.

Chloe herself has already stated she has never claimed welfare. I'm currently looking into her Father and I have reason to believe he is actually a fairly wealthy man if I'm on the right path and her parents live in an affluent area. In May 2017, she may have been staying with Jamie in Norwich which could explain the tile if you're onto something. @Lurk as a resident Brit what are your thoughts?