🐱 Fatphobia in the Coronavirus Crisis - Lol fat

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Why is it even more important than ever to talk about fatphobia in the midst of the corona crisis? Because fatphobia is an oppressive structure in society. And oppressive structures always become even clearer and harder in times of crisis.

Not just modern day
I am a fat activist. I use the word fat about myself. Because fat is a neutral word. There is nothing wrong with being fat. It is just a variety of the human form. Fat people have always existed. Just think of the fat Venus figurines that are up to 30,000 years old – back when literally everyone was on the paleo diet.

Western culture is not as old as the fat Venus figurines. Western culture is a few thousand years old – and fatness has never been welcome in this culture. We have a fatphobic myth that in some kind of unspecified ‘old days’, fatness was accepted and even ideal.
But Western culture is full of corsets and fat jokes – from ancient Greece till today. Because fatness was never ideal. If you don’t believe me, try googling Peter Paul Rubens, for instance, and his painting ‘The Judgement of Paris’ from 1638/39 and look closely at the ‘rubenesque’ models we’ve been told are fat. Spoiler alert: they are not fat. They look like Kate Winslet and Drew Barrymore.
Fatphobia is the name of the structure that places fat people outside the norm and at the bottom of the hierarchies. The reason I want to talk about fatness and fatphobia right now, in the midst of a chaotic health crisis that seems to be bringing on a financial crisis too, is that every crisis in society always underlines the already existing hierarchies.
Workplace woes
Why was the financial crisis particularly hard on fat people? Because we are already less likely to get hired, more likely to get fired and will not make the same money as people who are not fat. An article from 2016 written by researchers from six different European universities, and edited by Saba Hinrichs-Krapels from Kings College London, found that all existing literature on the topic of the discrimination of fat people in the recruitment process shows that anti-fat bias plays a huge part in who gets hired.
A report from the US non-profit organisation Rudd Center tells us that 1) Fat people don’t get hired as much as people who are not fat, 2) Fat people don’t get promoted in work spaces as much as people who are not fat, 3) Fat people are likely to get fired for being fat and/or unable to lose weight, 4) Fat people are subjected to bullying and stigmatisation by non-fat colleagues and superiors, and 5) Fat people risk being punished for their fatness via rules and policies about dieting at the workplace.
The report also states there is no law to protect fat people in workplaces in the US. The states of Michigan and Washington are exceptions, even though they still don’t have explicit laws that make it illegal to discriminate against fat people in workplaces.
Odds stacked against fat
A US survey from 2017 revealed that only 15.6 percent will consider hiring a fat woman. That means 84.4 percent will not even consider looking into what qualifications she may have before discarding her. In Denmark, Fagforbundet Lederne carried out surveys amongst its members in 2011 and 2017 that showed that two-thirds would refuse or be reluctant to hire fat people.
Needless to say, a financial crisis with overwhelming unemployment rates will place fat people in an even harder situation than we already face in times of no crisis. For those of us fat people who survive this health crisis, the financial crisis looks unbelievably scary!
Stigmas can alter stats
I follow several doctors, dieticians and other healthcare professionals who advocate for equality for fat people in the healthcare system. One of them is Dr Lindo Bacon, an American physiologist who has written several books including ‘Health At Every Size: The Surprising Truth About Your Weight’ from 2008.
Bacon argues that fatness and health are in no way mutually exclusive – but that fatphobia manifested in, for instance, hate crimes and discrimination in workspaces leads to poor health that should not be confused with fatness causing health problems. In other words fat is not the problem, fat stigma is.
Bacon expressed concern on Twitter on March 19, retweeting these words from @biggirlsworkout: “High BMI is currently being used to exclude people from ventilator treatment due to the shortage … I predict that in a year, doctors point to higher death rate for fat people from COVID and say: ‘See? I told you so!’ BUT THEY ARE LITERALLY CAUSING IT NOW.”
High BMI no extra risk
Dr Joshua Wolrich, a British doctor who is active in debates and on social media trying to fight fatphobic discrimination, posted about BMI and corona on March 31. In the UK, in Denmark and elsewhere authorities have – as per usual – condemned high BMI to be a risk factor with COVID-19.
Wolrich wrote: “The latest report on COVID-19 from the Intensive Care National Audit & Research Centre in the UK is pretty conclusive. There is no evidence to suggest that BMI is a risk factor for admission to ICU with COVID-19.”
Looking at the data graphically you can see that the distribution of those admitted critically ill with COVID-19 follows the BMI distribution of the general population. BMI is not a risk factor.
Furthermore he writes about lung infections and high BMI: “Interestingly, a higher BMI even seems to be slightly protective against admission when looking at a previous data set from 2017-2019 of patients with non-COVID-19 viral pneumonia.”
Previous research has also suggested that patients with a higher BMI have a lower mortality risk when requiring mechanical ventilation for ARDS (PMID 22430246) – the type of respiratory failure seen in COVID-19.
Going back to the ICNARC report, there is also currently no significant difference between BMI cohorts and successful discharge once admitted to critical care. This is less conclusive at present, but there is currently a lot less data that we can analyse.
I hope this has given some of you some reassurance about what we know already: that BMI is a poor predictor of health at an individual level.
Healthcare has a role
There is obviously a fear that the healthcare system will let down fat people during this healthcare crisis – because fat people are let down all the time. A 2017 WHO report, ‘Weight Bias And Obesity Stigma: Consideration For The European Region’, concurs that fatphobia is everywhere, all the time.
People of size experience fatphobia from educators, employers, health professionals, the media, friends and family, contends the report, which urges action against fatphobia as its core message. It argues that health professionals must focus on health gain – as opposed to weight loss – and it advises health professionals to encourage body positivity with children, young people and adults of size.
“Obesity stigma can also affect the quality of care for patients with obesity, ultimately leading to poor health outcomes and an increasing risk of mortality,” it urges the healthcare profession.
“Consider that patients may have had negative experiences with health professionals, and approach patients with sensitivity and empathy. Explore all possible causes of a presenting problem, and avoid assuming it is a result of an individual’s weight status.”
I hope that fat people everywhere will get equal treatment during this pandemic.
And I hope that fat people everywhere will not have to suffer harder than everyone else during the financial crisis upon us. But given the gloomy statistics, I find it quite hard to be an optimist in these matters.
 
Nobody is "phobic" of fatties. We're just completely disgusted by them when they're loud and self-righteous about being fat.

God knows most of us could be in better shape, but very few of us are delusional enough to pretend the world needs to change to fit us into it. (Lol fatties can't fit into anything.)

Bacon argues that fatness and health are in no way mutually exclusive

Of course that's what Bacon thinks :story:
 
.dk? Are there even any fat people in denmark?

5) Fat people risk being punished for their fatness via rules and policies about dieting at the workplace.

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Bacon argues that fatness and health are in no way mutually exclusive – but that fatphobia manifested in, for instance, hate crimes and discrimination in workspaces leads to poor health that should not be confused with fatness causing health problems. In other words fat is not the problem, fat stigma is.

I'm pretty sure the reason fatties are dying more often isn't due to hate-crime murder Mr.Bacon.

Lindo isn't a name. It looks like Linda transitioned?

There is obviously a fear that the healthcare system will let down fat people during this healthcare crisis – because fat people are let down all the time.

If you where not so heavy it would be easier to carry you.
 
"I am a fat activist"...written by Dina Amlund.
Dina-Almlund2.jpg

I wonder why
 
"CoVID-19 is more dangerous in those with underlying health conditions such as Obesity" - this is clear, COVID-19 is oppressive towards fat people.

Wonder if she's one of those people that say that being obese doesn't mean you are more prone to heart-related illnesses and you are perfectly healthy being 500+lbs... Or you consider it oppression when your doctor says that your high blood pressure is probably because you're that weight...

Drop the cheeseburguer and walk fatty.

@Slimy Time

Imagine not being able to button your jacket but still wear it in a photo of your profile... Smart.
 
Workplace woes
Why was the financial crisis particularly hard on fat people? Because we are already less likely to get hired, more likely to get fired and will not make the same money as people who are not fat. An article from 2016 written by researchers from six different European universities, and edited by Saba Hinrichs-Krapels from Kings College London, found that all existing literature on the topic of the discrimination of fat people in the recruitment process shows that anti-fat bias plays a huge part in who gets hired.
A report from the US non-profit organisation Rudd Center tells us that 1) Fat people don’t get hired as much as people who are not fat, 2) Fat people don’t get promoted in work spaces as much as people who are not fat, 3) Fat people are likely to get fired for being fat and/or unable to lose weight, 4) Fat people are subjected to bullying and stigmatisation by non-fat colleagues and superiors, and 5) Fat people risk being punished for their fatness via rules and policies about dieting at the workplace.
The report also states there is no law to protect fat people in workplaces in the US. The states of Michigan and Washington are exceptions, even though they still don’t have explicit laws that make it illegal to discriminate against fat people in workplaces.
I wonder if its the other way around, fat people have less self control (otherwise they wouldn't be fat) which isn't a good thing in most jobs and have worse credentials for it. Also it might be the case of ugly bias. Don't know about "rules and policies about dieting" are, I guess meatless mondays are offensive.
Stigmas can alter stats
I follow several doctors, dieticians and other healthcare professionals who advocate for equality for fat people in the healthcare system. One of them is Dr Lindo Bacon, an American physiologist who has written several books including ‘Health At Every Size: The Surprising Truth About Your Weight’ from 2008.
Bacon argues that fatness and health are in no way mutually exclusive – but that fatphobia manifested in, for instance, hate crimes and discrimination in workspaces leads to poor health that should not be confused with fatness causing health problems. In other words fat is not the problem, fat stigma is.
Bacon expressed concern on Twitter on March 19, retweeting these words from @biggirlsworkout: “High BMI is currently being used to exclude people from ventilator treatment due to the shortage … I predict that in a year, doctors point to higher death rate for fat people from COVID and say: ‘See? I told you so!’ BUT THEY ARE LITERALLY CAUSING IT NOW.”
Sadly, Dr Bacon is pretty slim and weirdly hobbit like. I never heard of hate crimes used as something against obese deathfats but I wouldn't be surprised. If anything society bullying you into losing weight should be a good thing but we can't be judgemental over stuff that can actually be improved and be changed, otherwise the fatties will lose victimhood points.
Also the Corona example is retarded.
High BMI no extra risk
Dr Joshua Wolrich, a British doctor who is active in debates and on social media trying to fight fatphobic discrimination, posted about BMI and corona on March 31. In the UK, in Denmark and elsewhere authorities have – as per usual – condemned high BMI to be a risk factor with COVID-19.
Wolrich wrote: “The latest report on COVID-19 from the Intensive Care National Audit & Research Centre in the UK is pretty conclusive. There is no evidence to suggest that BMI is a risk factor for admission to ICU with COVID-19.”
Looking at the data graphically you can see that the distribution of those admitted critically ill with COVID-19 follows the BMI distribution of the general population. BMI is not a risk factor.
Furthermore he writes about lung infections and high BMI: “Interestingly, a higher BMI even seems to be slightly protective against admission when looking at a previous data set from 2017-2019 of patients with non-COVID-19 viral pneumonia.”
Previous research has also suggested that patients with a higher BMI have a lower mortality risk when requiring mechanical ventilation for ARDS (PMID 22430246) – the type of respiratory failure seen in COVID-19.
Going back to the ICNARC report, there is also currently no significant difference between BMI cohorts and successful discharge once admitted to critical care. This is less conclusive at present, but there is currently a lot less data that we can analyse.
I hope this has given some of you some reassurance about what we know already: that BMI is a poor predictor of health at an individual level.
Besides X to doubt over the BMI not being a high risk of Corona (having your lungs squished by your fat is probably not very helpful), and the low mortality rate goes against the point they made earlier. This doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things because this single case is used as an argument why being a whale doesn't have any health problems whatsoever.
Healthcare has a role
There is obviously a fear that the healthcare system will let down fat people during this healthcare crisis – because fat people are let down all the time. A 2017 WHO report, ‘Weight Bias And Obesity Stigma: Consideration For The European Region’, concurs that fatphobia is everywhere, all the time.
People of size experience fatphobia from educators, employers, health professionals, the media, friends and family, contends the report, which urges action against fatphobia as its core message. It argues that health professionals must focus on health gain – as opposed to weight loss – and it advises health professionals to encourage body positivity with children, young people and adults of size.
“Obesity stigma can also affect the quality of care for patients with obesity, ultimately leading to poor health outcomes and an increasing risk of mortality,” it urges the healthcare profession.
“Consider that patients may have had negative experiences with health professionals, and approach patients with sensitivity and empathy. Explore all possible causes of a presenting problem, and avoid assuming it is a result of an individual’s weight status.”
I hope that fat people everywhere will get equal treatment during this pandemic.
"People of size" mfw, why not "People of considerable girth"? Anyways health gain is weight loss and it doesn't surprise me that the WHO advises for fat asses to stay fat and society to change instead.
 
Ahhh so it turns out that you all arent "healthy at all sizes".

Also I love this COVID trend where one week we get an article about how "COVID affects everyone equally it doesn't discriminate if you are young, old, white, black, fit, fat, straight or gay!" then the next week an article about how fat/old/gays are mega oppressed by COVID and are being YEET'ed at unfair rates
 
I follow several doctors, dieticians and other healthcare professionals who advocate for equality for fat people in the healthcare system. One of them is Dr Lindo Bacon, an American physiologist who has written several books including ‘Health At Every Size: The Surprising Truth About Your Weight’ from 2008
"Lindo Bacon, formerly Linda Bacon".
She is a troon (pronouns they/them) because of fucking course. And if you listen to a troon for medical advice, you have only yourself to blame.

And in the end, what the reports say, and what the CDC suggests at the moment, is that a high BMI is associated with ICU admissions or other severe outcomes. This may be true or it may be not; given the criteria of ventilator use and ICU admissions differ from center to center, we need more throughout analysis. But this statement as it stand is not in any way discriminatory; fatties should stop getting worked up and start working out.

About ICU policies:
> Bacon: "High BMI is currently being used to exclude people from ventilator treatment due to the shortage"​
> Wolrich: "The latest report on COVID-19 from the Intensive Care National Audit & Research Centre in the UK is pretty conclusive. There is no evidence to suggest that BMI is a risk factor for admission to ICU with COVID-19"​
If both statements are true, my conclusion would be that fatsos are indeed more likely to develop severe complications, but because some fatties are excluded by virtue of BMI alone, the ICU admission statistics end up roughly on par with non-fats. This sort of threw the monkey wrench in their argument didn't it?
 
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Fathobia?

The fuck would you be scared of fat people for? Trying to eat you as a fetus?

Also I love it when articles cite shit but don't link the source.
I'm too lazy to find the first two, since looking for a study by research and keywords are pretty retarded, and everytime I read studies shoved at me by activists it always ends up being painful to read AND mindnumbingly stupid.

But I did find the survey from 2017
(can't archive the pdf wat do)
Also, here's the pictures of the women for the hire/not hire shit:
resumeImg.jpg

Essentially they are trying to attribute one picture of a fat woman to fat bias. Which is just shitty testing. Her unhireability could be attributed to many things.
Like how bad her suit looks.

Also weird how there's no mention of tattoo and casual shirt lady.

I mean fuck the entire study is retarded.
Of course people have biases and shit, pretending a hiring run is some sort of research study where you have some sort of obligation to be as unbiased as possible is pretty stupid.
These people will be working for/with you, trying to force yourself to like someone you don't like is a pointless endeavor.
 
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