Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Brief update from my neck of the woods: neighbor is a physical therapist. She's been working as a gopher since WuFlu hit. We talk over the fence.

Her hospital has seen about 30 coronavirus cases. No one died, all patients are recovering at home. The National Guard was deployed at their hospital since March. They are going home starting Saturday. The National Guard managed to break a 4-story concrete parking lot with a truck, there's a problem getting in and out of the structure. She made it sound like they are going home because they are clumsy.

Her hospital had shortages of hand sanitizer and other essentials, they sent supplies up to New York. Now her hospital is starting to run out, there's no way to restock. She's worried that her boss is not worried and thinks this may mean they are preparing for lay offs. Other local hospitals have seen more cases and are getting supplies, she thinks this may mean her hospital is about to return to doing elective procedures. She's a therapist, not a nurse, which means she might return to doing what she's trained for. Then again, it could mean something else, all she knows is she doesn't want to be unemployed.

A local university is testing a test that tells you if you've had the virus. They need volunteers to give blood but they won't tell you the results of the test. One of the doctors from her hospital is involved and she's helping recruit volunteers. She said other universities are involved, and I should have asked her if this was a national effort. Either way, she made it sound like this is a big deal.

A number of people at the hospital were fired for panicking and taking sick leave when WuFlu cases started to arrive. Her boss has been using CCTV recordings to figure out who did their jobs and who didn't. Apparently, it's really bad when you lose your nerve as a nurse and they don't do much to disguise why this is happening. A couple doctors there were in combat and have survived being shot, they have been lecturing the staff about cowardice.
 
local joke t shirt of a notorious building ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majesty_Building ) with a facemask
Is that eyesore on I4 still under construction?
Altamonte Springs and Seminole county need to be investigated for corruption in allowing that thing to go on longer than 2 decades.

I literally had to MacGyver my ppe the other day; when in doubt use trash bags.
Remember, 2 layers of shop towels in between cotton outer layers = an N95.
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Is that eyesore on I4 still under construction?
Altamonte Springs and Seminole county need to be investigated for corruption in allowing that thing to go on longer than 2 decades.
it's not really the county's business, I think, pretty sure private parties own the land, if they want to put a ugly building there it's their business
I heard a construction contractor chatting with a comrade of his about it saying what happened was when the christian group bought it they had helpful volunteers do construction work, which meant any additional commercial work had to first go through and rip out the helpful volunteers' shit and then rebuild so that stalled things for a while.
 
it's not really the county's business, I think, pretty sure private parties own the land, if they want to put a ugly building there it's their business
I heard a construction contractor chatting with a comrade of his about it saying what happened was when the christian group bought it they had helpful volunteers do construction work, which meant any additional commercial work had to first go through and rip out the helpful volunteers' shit and then rebuild so that stalled things for a while.
Permits bro, they expire under normal circumstances.
They are working a loophole where as long as they get SOME kind of work done every 6 months or so they can get another 6 month extension.
1 bit of work done and 1 inspection every 6 months.
For over 20 years.
 
Medcram video. Most interesting thing is that we still don't know if hydroxychloroquine works or not because all the studies which have published results have been so seriously flawed it's impossible to draw a conclusion. This sort of thing is probably why the aliens aren't interested in talking to us as a species. If the universe were a kindergarten, Earth would be the kid who ate crayons.

https://archive.vn/PdPNK
 
Medcram video. Most interesting thing is that we still don't know if hydroxychloroquine works or not because all the studies which have published results have been so seriously flawed it's impossible to draw a conclusion. This sort of thing is probably why the aliens aren't interested in talking to us as a species. If the universe were a kindergarten, Earth would be the kid who ate crayons.

https://archive.vn/PdPNK
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It does. Spanish hospitals are using it along many other treatments. If it didn't they would've already sounded the alarm.
 
Probably the most important video I want to share today, it's longish but do check it out. On the use of anticoagulants to prevent blood clots. Also, the postive outcome of a patient treated with remdesivir:


Another (shorter) video about Covid-19 affecting the blood: "7 fold increase of strokes in younger people" "sudden onset of large vessel stroke" (ie. the interruption of blood flow in one of the main large arteries in the brain). Also mentions using the D-Dimer test to tell how likely the blood will clot.


Another news item on the blood clots:

Apparently there is a new "large" study which claims no benefit for HCQ or HCQ and azithromycin (here's the catch: they didn't add zinc to the mix, which could've affected their outcome):


This is the study referred to in the news item (it's already being picked appart in the comments underneath, make sure to read those too):

RESULTS: A total of 368 patients were evaluated

CONCLUSIONS: In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19. An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.

Outcomes of hydroxychloroquine usage in United States veterans hospitalized with Covid-19
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1 http://archive.is/cYyHe

Johns Hopkins physician saying that they basically still don't know shit and their his only hope is vaccines: "We won't go back to January until there is a vaccine" (hey dummy, the virus was already spreading *in November*, but hey, go ahead and ignore that little fact all you WHO asslickers lest people say the C-word)


Colombians were supposed to get $140 a month from their government but they haven't gotten it because it apparently went to their mafia, now they claim they are starving in the city of Bogota:


From the country that brought you the likes of "there is no difference between antibacterial, antiviral and antiparasitic" and still the highest death toll in the whole of the EU:
'Move out!' Spanish Healthcare workers receive threats from neighbours

How the pandemic affects the food supply:


Coronavirus NYC: "All city permitted events are cancelled through June"

you get what you pay for flying Ryanair.

Speaking of Ryanair, look at this dick move from them:

 
The U.S. really keeps dancing around the fact that obesity is a huge factor in deaths here. It's the most prevalent underlying condition in hospitalized patients between 18-49 according to this.

The CDC even mentions it as a risk factor, but I keep seeing articles about people in their 20s and 30s dying and it says "no known underlying conditions" but then you look at a picture of the person and it's plain to see they're obese.

I was thinking about it when I read about this 26 year old former football player who died in Connecticut. It's sad that someone so young died and he seemed like a decent guy, but it's a bit ridiculous to say someone is "perfectly healthy" carrying around that much weight.

I've also noticed a lot of the articles don't include a picture and I have to search around for one and my first thought is "they're probably fat".

I know it's a touchy subject that hurts people's feelings, but it's a serious health issue and this should be a come to Jesus moment about the obesity problem here.
 
I'm going to put the first image of the U.S. House Of Representatives (Lower House, controls the purse, elections every 2 years) here and all the rest in a spoiler to save the scroll time for those who know or don't care but it's worth it.
I give you our super knowledgeable and very concerned government.


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Goddamn AOC is a fine-ass bitch. FUCK.

Also I'm pretty sure when they are at that podium they are social distanced by default. AOC sit on my face.
 
Rate me late if need be, but Missouri is planning on opening up on May 4th.
I guess corona is a sith conspiracy. When do you guys think we should start opening?

I don't think that every state should open at once, all at the same time. Every state has been pretty unique in their circumstances, and it would be foolish to not acknowledge that.

However, all governors should be starting and sharing a shutdown exit plan. They just keep moving the goal posts and prolonging the shutdown with no promise of an end in sight ... And that's simply unacceptable. Great recipe for (justifiable) civil unrest.
 
Is that eyesore on I4 still under construction?
Altamonte Springs and Seminole county need to be investigated for corruption in allowing that thing to go on longer than 2 decades.


Remember, 2 layers of shop towels in between cotton outer layers = an N95.
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For serious? Cause I always got a lot of shop towels around for car work, and as an aspiring Mean Old Man I carry a handkerchief and have a stack of 'em on the dresser.

Though for the day to day in my Mask Law state I just rock a bandana. Need to get some diff colors though for style.
 
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I don't think that every state should open at once, all at the same time. Every state has been pretty unique in their circumstances, and it would be foolish to not acknowledge that.

However, all governors should be starting and sharing a shutdown exit plan. They just keep moving the goal posts and prolonging the shutdown with no promise of an end in sight ... And that's simply unacceptable. Great recipe for (justifiable) civil unrest.

Georgia's Governor totally jumped the gun and wanted to reopen Gyms and stuff. So yeah, going that far right now is excessive.

Florida is starting work on early plans, I was a bit confused about the beaches opening early. But it makes a bit more sense today from the Homeland Security's findings that UV rays and Humidity seem to drastically reduce the half-life of Corona ( http://archive.is/B2duO )
 
Georgia's Governor totally jumped the gun and wanted to reopen Gyms and stuff. So yeah, going that far right now is excessive.

Florida is starting work on early plans, I was a bit confused about the beaches opening early. But it makes a bit more sense today from the Homeland Security's findings that UV rays and Humidity seem to drastically reduce the half-life of Corona ( http://archive.li/B2duO )

We don't know if the Georgia governor jumped the gun yet. We'll see what happens in the upcoming weeks. Regardless, I'm hoping for the best. Ultimately, if I had a choice, I'd choose to reopen everything sooner than later-- a lot of people's livelihoods are depending on that "sooner."

As for Florida, I criticized DeSantis when all of this shit started ... I'm singing a bit of a different tune now. The man seems to know what he's doing. At the very least, he's proven that he's done his research and that his choices aren't coming from out of nowhere.

There's a lot of uncertainly in how to tackle this pandemic. Unfortunately nobody will know the right answer until everything is over. That said, current data is suggesting that the mortality rate is primed to be much lower than anticipated ... We can't ruin millions of lives for a fraction of a percent.
 
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