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[Android raptor]

Yeah, I'm curious if Kayli goes to public school or a special school. I'd imagine her "education" is moreso sensory therapy and babysitting than anything else.

That said ramps and shit can benefit other kids. Kayli's mom is an entitled asshole, but installing ramps in a school isnt a bad idea.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

Yeah, I'm curious if Kayli goes to public school or a special school. I'd imagine her "education" is moreso sensory therapy and babysitting than anything else.

That said ramps and shit can benefit other kids. Kayli's mom is an entitled asshole, but installing ramps in a school isnt a bad idea.

Most schools have some sort of ramp, as part of the ADA, I believe. I was referring to any sort of special ramp that wasn't already installed.

 

[I hate children?]

I know every child has the right to an education, but...is Kayli even capable of learning anything? I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like she is. Even in terms of socialization, it doesn't seem like it's possible.

Which is what upsets me. If that is the case, money is being taken from the Special Education fund to put in ramps, etc. for a child who cannot learn. And therefore, taking money way from other students who need things like sensory items, technology, Do you know how many schools don't have a sensory/cool down room for their students and need one? You have kids that need a break so they can de-stress, collet themselves, go back to class & learn. And that's what a sensory/cool down room is for. But instead, that money is being spent on a child who probably won't get much out of education. Why doesn't see go to a school for children with profound physical/intellectual disabilities (assuming she isn't in one)...those schools are equipped for wheelchairs, ventilators, etc. and the staff is highly trained to assist those kids.

I'm thinking this post sums up why Kayli's mom has her in the public school system. Aside from the free babysitting and being able to throw her weight around she gets to make sure her child gets special treatment that other parents don't demand their children receive. Kayli's isn't learning anything but her mom doing shit like this makes it obvious learning isn't the point.

In a school for special needs children Kayli wouldn't necessarily be the most disabled and the other students get the same type of attention. In public schools Kelly Whistler can demand Kayli get extra attention, even if it doesn't involve her learning, and she can't be refused. I am really curious about what will happen if Kayli survives long enough to be in school for cheerleading tryouts, dances and other activities she will not physically be able to do .

 

[Blonde Bomb]

I'm thinking this post sums up why Kayli's mom has her in the public school system. Aside from the free babysitting and being able to throw her weight around she gets to make sure her child gets special treatment that other parents don't demand their children receive. Kayli's isn't learning anything but her mom doing shit like this makes it obvious learning isn't the point.

In a school for special needs children Kayli wouldn't necessarily be the most disabled and the other students get the same type of attention. In public schools Kelly Whistler can demand Kayli get extra attention, even if it doesn't involve her learning, and she can't be refused. I am really curious about what will happen if Kayli survives long enough to be in school for cheerleading tryouts, dances and other activities she will not physically be able to do .

You hit the nail right on the head. In a special needs school, Kayli wouldn't be the most special.

I wonder how the teachers & other children react to Kayli. What on earth could her IEP goals possibly be?

As for if she survives long enough to get to do school activities...I could see her being pushed on-stage for some scenes in the school play, maybe put her in a cheerleader uniform & have her sit with the squad on the bench. As for dances...mom will chaperone and try to rope some poor boy into 'dancing' with her. Maybe even get another (higher functioning) special education student to be her 'date'.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

I'm thinking this post sums up why Kayli's mom has her in the public school system. Aside from the free babysitting and being able to throw her weight around she gets to make sure her child gets special treatment that other parents don't demand their children receive. Kayli's isn't learning anything but her mom doing shit like this makes it obvious learning isn't the point.

In a school for special needs children Kayli wouldn't necessarily be the most disabled and the other students get the same type of attention. In public schools Kelly Whistler can demand Kayli get extra attention, even if it doesn't involve her learning, and she can't be refused. I am really curious about what will happen if Kayli survives long enough to be in school for cheerleading tryouts, dances and other activities she will not physically be able to do .

I just wonder if her appearance affects other children to the point of giving them nightmares, or upsetting them so much they refuse to attend school, and what options THOSE students and parents would have?
It sounds mean, but I wouldn't want to have to look at Kayli all day, or that other girl that has a Joker face for a mouth.

And I'm laughing at the "barely awake" remark. Madam, your child is barely fucking ALIVE. She's just a shell kept here for your own desire for attention and asspats.

 

[NoReturn]

I just wonder if her appearance affects other children to the point of giving them nightmares, or upsetting them so much they refuse to attend school, and what options THOSE students and parents would have?
It sounds mean, but I wouldn't want to have to look at Kayli all day, or that other girl that has a Joker face for a mouth.

And I'm laughing at the "barely awake" remark. Madam, your child is barely fucking ALIVE. She's just a shell kept here for your own desire for attention and asspats.

This may sound horrible, but fuck it. I'll admit that as a kid I would have been scared shitless of this child. I was a little coward when I was little, I couldn't even stand to look at skeletons in picture books. This would have messed me the fuck up.

 

[The Husbando Collector]

This may sound horrible, but fuck it. I'll admit that as a kid I would have been scared shitless of this child. I was a little coward when I was little, I couldn't even stand to look at skeletons in picture books. This would have messed me the fuck up.

Ditto this, even though i was pretty much the fearless fool as and daredevil as a kid even I would be traumatized by having to stare at mummified silent hill monster in my classroom.

 

[TheWhiteRabbit]

You hit the nail right on the head. In a special needs school, Kayli wouldn't be the most special.

I wonder how the teachers & other children react to Kayli. What on earth could her IEP goals possibly be?

As for if she survives long enough to get to do school activities...I could see her being pushed on-stage for some scenes in the school play, maybe put her in a cheerleader uniform & have her sit with the squad on the bench. As for dances...mom will chaperone and try to rope some poor boy into 'dancing' with her. Maybe even get another (higher functioning) special education student to be her 'date'.

That reminds me of people asking Gwen how the teachers gauged Claire & Lola’s abilities & progress in order to create lesson plans. Gwen snapped something like “they just know! I don’t need a piece of paper to tell me how smart & amazing they are!!” I imagine Kelly Whistler acts the same way. She’ll shoehorn Kayli into everything exactly how Gwen did, only I imagine she’ll take it all to the extreme. Claire & Lola were the “tiniest cheerleaders” on Cal’s high school’s squad but they sat in the bleachers aside from a few photo ops with the cheerleaders. The basketball team did all give them fist bumps as they ran onto the court but that was the limit of their participation. I doubt sitting in the bleachers & getting a couple pictures would be enough for Kelly. I imagine she would demand for Kayli to be on the sidelines in full uniform like the rest of the team, parked in her wheelchair with Kelly running back & forth to ensure Kayli is the center of attention & doesn’t drown in her own saliva. As far as the dances, I’m sure one of her poor sons will be forced to go & “dance” with Kayli. I just wonder if she’ll take her “fashionista” to the Night To Shine prom, public school dances, or both. Part of me thinks she’ll avoid the Night To Shine events for the same reason she wouldn’t put Kayli in a special needs school - she wouldn’t be the most exceptional kid there.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

This may sound horrible, but fuck it. I'll admit that as a kid I would have been scared shitless of this child. I was a little coward when I was little, I couldn't even stand to look at skeletons in picture books. This would have messed me the fuck up.

Oh, I would have been. I was afraid of ET and ALF as a child. As mean as it sounds, I probably would have seen her & cried.

So, I got bored (and nosy) and decided to take a look at the Kayli's Krusade Facebook page...as of 2016, Kayli did go to a special needs school, perhaps even 2017, as there's a photo of a boy in wheelchair with her at a Halloween party. Huh.

EDIT: I went further down the rabbit hole. One of Kayli's brother has an inoperable brain tumor apparently. At least he did in 2015. And Kayli was legally dead for 32 minutes during a surgery when she was 5 months old. Sorry if this is all late (rate me as needed), I'm just stunned.

 

[Free the Pedos]

In a school for special needs children Kayli wouldn't necessarily be the most disabled and the other students get the same type of attention. In public schools Kelly Whistler can demand Kayli get extra attention, even if it doesn't involve her learning, and she can't be refused. I am really curious about what will happen if Kayli survives long enough to be in school for cheerleading tryouts, dances and other activities she will not physically be able to do .

I'm not sure that's true. Special needs schools generally cater to kids who are capable of learning, and Kayli doesn't seem to have any intellectual capacity at all. I don't even think a daycare program would be appropriate. From what I've seen IRL, parents of these unfortunate kids usually receive an exemption from the school district and care for their kids at home, i.e. keep them comfortable.

 

[Android raptor]

Yeah if Kayli isn't going to a sped school I highly doubt she's in general ed classes. At least when I was in school kids with even more mild developmental disabilities were segregated in their own classes. At most they joined the other kids for intramurals, but that was it.

Gwen jusy kept her potatoes at home, right? Like she just had therapists come to the house instead of shipping them to potato school every day?

 

[Blonde Bomb]

I'm not sure that's true. Special needs schools generally cater to kids who are capable of learning, and Kayli doesn't seem to have any intellectual capacity at all. I don't even think a daycare program would be appropriate. From what I've seen IRL, parents of these unfortunate kids usually receive an exemption from the school district and care for their kids at home, i.e. keep them comfortable.

When I say 'special school', I mean one for the profoundly disabled. We have one within the school district where I live. It's for children who are so low, even programs for students who are limited verbally, have behavioral and safety concerns, are non-dipolma bound, but do learn basic things as they are able, Kids like Kayli will not benefit from that. There's also another program which is also non-diploma bound, but teaches basic life skills, but kids who go to this special school aren't capable of that. Basically...vegetable kids. They don't really do much other than...exist. They do very basic things, almost like a kindergarten or Pre-K classroom and go to art, music and P.E, participating as they're able. It's basically a glorified babysitting gig & because all children have to receive schooling of some kind.

EDIT: In my county, unless students are so severely ill they're bed ridden or bringing them to school puts them at risk, they are suppose to attend school. Of course, they can also be homeschooled, through a parent or other certified provider, or through what is called Home Hospital Teaching (HHT). This is for students who cannot come to school due to a temporary (or expected to be temporary) medical issue. Such a child who has cancer & their immune system at that particular time is compromised. I've heard of a student who had to have the muscles on the back of his calf stretched due to some condition and he couldn't walk for two months, so he got HHT. An instructor goes to their house & teaches them at home. But those are the laws in my state. Sorry if this sounds like power leveling. Isolation does things to a person's brain....

 

[Cheesegirl78]

This may sound horrible, but fuck it. I'll admit that as a kid I would have been scared shitless of this child. I was a little coward when I was little, I couldn't even stand to look at skeletons in picture books. This would have messed me the fuck up.

I was terrified of skeletons as a kid as well, and I would not have wanted to be in the same school as Kayli, much less the same classroom. At least when I was little, the schools didn't bend over backwards for parents like these; they were kept home, and MAYBE had some type of home study counselor visit.
The push for children like her to attend public school didn't really get going until the mid-90s, IIRC.

 

[MysticMisty]

This may sound horrible, but fuck it. I'll admit that as a kid I would have been scared shitless of this child. I was a little coward when I was little, I couldn't even stand to look at skeletons in picture books. This would have messed me the fuck up.

Ditto this, even though i was pretty much the fearless fool as and daredevil as a kid even I would be traumatized by having to stare at mummified silent hill monster in my classroom.

When I was young I read a book about a boy who was scared of a neighborhood boy the same age who had a unusual gait. To help him get over this his dad secretly arranged for his kid to meet a friend of his who lost an arm in a war (probably Vietnam but it maybe could've been the first Gulf War). Basic shit to prepare kids to see other kids and adults with disabilities, deformities, and amputations.

This book would not have been nearly enough to prepare me to meet face to face with Kayli. I would've been absolutely terrified to see this not-quite a corpse child being wheeled around. An actual corpse would've been less frightening. I'd have very likely poked a corpse to see if it was really dead. I'd been too scared to touch Kayli and expect her to start shrieking if I did.

Yeah if Kayli isn't going to a sped school I highly doubt she's in general ed classes.

I would hope so, but I heard somewhere about this kid (now mercifully deceased) with severe cerebral palsy. Wheelchair bound, non-verbal, profoundly intellectually disabled. We're talking that it probably didn't understand basic speech disabled. This kid was in a normal classroom at least part of the time, even though the only meaningful movement and interaction it had was to either hit itself or bite their arm, and scream.

 

[I hate children?]

Yeah if Kayli isn't going to a sped school I highly doubt she's in general ed classes. At least when I was in school kids with even more mild developmental disabilities were segregated in their own classes. At most they joined the other kids for intramurals, but that was it.

Gwen jusy kept her potatoes at home, right? Like she just had therapists come to the house instead of shipping them to potato school every day?

I really can't speak for Kayli's situation but where I reside children like Kayli absolutely can be in general classes with students who aren't learning disabled. Under the least restrictive environment laws in certain places children like Kayli attending normal classes with children of normal intelligence is considered the least restrictive setting which is nuts because they require one on one attention from a teachers aide when sitting in general education classes .

Most people with disabled children will not place their child in general education because they do what's best for their child. Then there are the people who demand their profoundly disabled snowflake who screams , self harms and destroys everything attend classes like history, social studies ,physical education and art with everyone else and a special education assistant gets to provide one on one care . It happens here every couple of years and is usually a disaster for everyone but the parents of the snowflake .

Kayli's mom made the school change policies for use of the swimming pool so incontinent children could use the pool and it only benefited Kayli. Kelly also made the school have teachers and assistants for Kayli learn how to deal with her trach so the mom wanting Kayli attending some general education classes isn't unrealistic even if it is ridiculous.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

From what I could gather from the videos she... may be minimally conscious? It's hard to tell.

I remember her mom claiming she had non-mosaic trisomy 18. How the fuck she is still alive, I dont know. Maybe it was mosaic, after all the anoxic event was the result of the idiot parents not giving the right dose of K, instead of the heart being fucked.

Any mention of surgeries prior to 4 months?

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Oh, I would have been. I was afraid of ET and ALF as a child. As mean as it sounds, I probably would have seen her & cried.

So, I got bored (and nosy) and decided to take a look at the Kayli's Krusade Facebook page...as of 2016, Kayli did go to a special needs school, perhaps even 2017, as there's a photo of a boy in wheelchair with her at a Halloween party. Huh.

EDIT: I went further down the rabbit hole. One of Kayli's brother has an inoperable brain tumor apparently. At least he did in 2015. And Kayli was legally dead for 32 minutes during a surgery when she was 5 months old. Sorry if this is all late (rate me as needed), I'm just stunned.

Why are you guys talking about Kayli being terrifying to you as a kid? She scares the ever loving shit out of me right now as a grown ass adult.

She’s a visceral reminder of the living death that could happen to anyone thanks to medical science and no living will.

 

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

Why are you guys talking about Kayli being terrifying to you as a kid? She scares the ever loving shit out of me right now as a grown ass adult.

She’s a visceral reminder of the living death that could happen to anyone thanks to medical science and no living will.

I agree. She's horrifying now and I'm a grown ass adult, I would not have been able to handle her a child.

there's a parent local to be that has a daughter like Kayli and whenever she posts a picture I have a visceral reaction. Repulsive stuff.

Edit: typo

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I agree. She's horrifying now and I'm a grown ass adult, I would not have been able to handle heraa a child.

there's a parent local to be that has a daughter like Kayli and whenever she posts a picture I have a visceral reaction. Repulsive stuff.

The vegetable state is horror movie stuff.

I see an older couple who have an adult son with severe CP and mental retardation, but the son is responsive to his environment and is obviously aware on some level. When I see his elderly father out pushing him in a special chair for walks it reminds me of how powerful love can be, even if it sometimes is heartbreaking too. They are wonderful people, quietly and selflessly caring for their adult child. I can only imagine the work and sacrifice it has taken. But their son is aware, he smiles when the sun and the wind hit his face.

Kayli’s mom, and her ilk, do the opposite and remind me how selfish people can be. Kayli isn’t aware, all the outings and outfits are for mom’s glory. Kayli is just a meat puppet mom can do as she pleases with. Kindness would have been letting her die years ago, or now caring for her at home and keeping her comfortable. Instead her mother does the opposite and uses her as a horrifying doll for public attention and “krusades”

She makes Gwen Hartley look like mom of the year. At least Gwen didn‘t force the public school system to accommodate the potatoes. Lola and Claire were animated compared to the 3-D Mvunch painting that is Kayli.

 

[bonitoflakeprincess]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44z97i-Ek0Q I want to contribute something. found while looking for infomation to give to people fawning over a Janus goat that was recently born.