Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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There is rapidly becoming a parallel set of policy and the science it is based on. It's becoming Trump/CDC/Republicans/Conservatives on the one side, China/WHO/Democrats/Liberals on the other. Each side will have a dogmatic opinion on every part of the virus, vaccines, treatments, lockdowns, etc. And it will be polarized and each will have experts to back up their feels because
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FYI, the euromomo site has gotten a face lift - it's now much more usable, and also updated data for week 16. Excess mortality seen in Spain, Italy, UK (Especially England), Belgium, Netherlands and somewhat in Sweden. Germany has only some areas participating in this data, including Berlin and they show no excess mortality.


Also a life hack for everyone working from home on how to survive the video conferences sane

 
So in the end I'm glad that we took this more seriously, although I'm sad we didn't get too many Karen takedowns. The economy took a hit but that was a long time coming. I just hope that a lot of these preventative measures stick with all these dumb fucks and I won't be packed in with people waiting at the self checkout.

One thing that annoys me in retrospect is that I thought this shit was supposed to be super contagious. Somebody in the office next to my girlfriend's workplace had a confirmed case after she went to New Orleans like a dumb negro. She was at work for several days after and showed symptoms to the point that she went to the ICU. Several days of interacting with people, equipment, ect. And not one other person got sick. Kinda bullshit but I guess they lucked out.
 
Yep, from June on, it's time for the immunocompromised, elderly, and any other high-risks groups, and I suppose people who work or care for them, to stay home and/or take extra precautions. There's no way in hell that most Americans (and I imagine most Canadians) are going to skip summer over this. I'm OK with continued distancing, masks/face coverings, and no huge concerts or other big events, but everything else needs to move forward.

We could do that. Don't go out if you're over 65 or immunocompromised or have some kind of condition that would make COVID-19 kill you.

But then you're old and going to get it from the guy delivering meals on wheels so. There's no real way to deal with this.
 

There's a very telling bit in that article about whining hipsters

Elsewhere, another line flattened: Traffic to news sites was well under the surge that accompanied the virus’s arrival, according to data from the website Chartbeat, a strong indicator of news fatigue.

You mean people don't like it when the 'news' is a bunch of hysterical idiots telling them that they're doomed when for most people it's an unpaid and mostly unwelcome vacation stuck at home? Who'd have thought it?


Someone recently thought I was insane for suggesting that even extending the lockdowns into June will result in riots. Some people thinking that most will simply put up with being trapped in their apartments the entire summer is the true insanity.

I'd give it another couple of weeks and daily case rates trending down and the government will reopen. Mind you I've been saying that for about couple of weeks now. The basic problem is that the media and the government can't admit that the lockdown was an overreaction. They'd rather trash the economy even more than admit that trashing it in the first place was probably unnecessary in the first place.

Look for more articles about how things are 'much worse than previously thought' and how we'll probably need a one-year lockdown and then a cyberpunk post-apocalyptic dystopia where you need to show your 'Clear' status on your phone before you can buy groceries.
 
I rated you horrifying not because of your story but because you were on reddit.
Yeah I knew better but sometimes I like to slum it a little. Helps to remind me why I avoid it.

Garden stores were allowed to reopen Friday, the 24th, and so were the gardening sections of big box stores.
Thank heavens. The last thing we need is a bunch of frustrated gardeners protesting with their pitchforks and Garden Weasels, ...actually that sound hilarious. It'd be a lot more interesting than the MAGA crowd with their assault rifles.
 
So in the end I'm glad that we took this more seriously, although I'm sad we didn't get too many Karen takedowns. The economy took a hit but that was a long time coming. I just hope that a lot of these preventative measures stick with all these dumb fucks and I won't be packed in with people waiting at the self checkout.

One thing that annoys me in retrospect is that I thought this shit was supposed to be super contagious. Somebody in the office next to my girlfriend's workplace had a confirmed case after she went to New Orleans like a dumb negro. She was at work for several days after and showed symptoms to the point that she went to the ICU. Several days of interacting with people, equipment, ect. And not one other person got sick. Kinda bullshit but I guess they lucked out.
Its possible that they got it but were asymptomatic. Serological tests are showing this virus is way more widespread, but also far less deadly then originally thought.
 
Had to throw my own touch on this. Love it. 20200426_081613.png
 
My favorite part of this whole thing has been the videos from China, the water leaking from the lights and everyone walking around like its normal. Water leaking from the lights is status quo China so for them to have went full retard it must have been a huge problem. Didnt people say it killed over a million in China?

What about India they were hit pretty hard too
 
Its possible that they got it but were asymptomatic. Serological tests are showing this virus is way more widespread, but also far less deadly then originally thought.
That's what I'm thinking too but the idea of 30+ people, including my girlfriend's office (they share the kitchen, printer, etc) and the various other vectors, including myself, not getting sick just seems far fetched.
 
Very slow news day. Hospital is seriously just back to normal. Everything is seriously just back to normal except with a lot more masks, chunks of our economy cut off and a lot more staying home because it's still not legal to come out. Politics seem to be relaxing again, mostly because they're busy trying to reactivate the country. I do have to apreciate that narrative aside the PP has joined the rest and is being actively helpful now. They're assholes but at least they don't get in the way. Before we had some cases of their narrative trying to spin "opening is lethal" shit on mom groups and shit but it seems when it comes to the economy their capitalism overtakes their opposition narrative and they do want to get this shit going fast. Props. They're slightly less awful than I thought. Vox is still being actively awful but at this point literally no one listens to them. It's like if alex jones was given a seat in congress. Sure you know he'll be an ass but who cares. As opposed to the american democrats, who are being asses and everyone cares, because they actually hurt.

Overall. Memes are nice. I have a lot to study. Hospital is ok. Morale is high enough. And deescalation is going way more smoothly than we thought. It will be fun. Also birds are still on heat over here. Which is nice. Some, specially from madrid, are worrying about how traffic will be handled once we reopen, and calling for more use of trains and public transport, because of the whole air contamination situation. And honestly madrid's atmosphere was absolutely dreadfull so I support them, but I don't know where they expect us to get the money for that. I do genuinely hope we see some small biz take care of that, they tend to be quick to pop up when stuff like this enters public consciousness. People also calling for stickers for national product and ensuring it isn't mixed with foreign product. Partially because of the nationalist bent occuring, partially because of the economy and partially because having tasted local product since the frontier closed they noticed what those of us who lived near producers noticed, that being that I have no fucking clue what south africans and moroccans do to their food. But holy fuck is national product so much better. Specially honey, citrus and oliveol. Just. Fuck me sideways that's a change. Best guess for the oil and honey is they gotta be mixing it with some kinda garbage. Either way fuck that. Makes me think of the god damned poisoned austrian wine fiasco DTRH talked about. (Or cristal head vodka commercials), only I'm guessing it can't be toxic if the alarms aren't blaring. But either way it doesn't taste nearly as nice.



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Why seniors though. If it is poverty, they should just do it for poor people. And if it is to keep them home. Then they should make a program to carry it home instead of that shit. What even is the rationale here?

They have, least in my state, increased the food stamp allotment 40% for those, of all ages, on the program. A single person got a maximum of $192 in food stamps before, so about another $80 is added. Families get more. Also have schools handing out food to certain students.

In our area we have a LOT of older people who are just barely surviving economically. They live, or try to live, in a very expensive area, on a meager Social Security payment. They get food delivered to them via volunteers. So this program could be of help. I'll check it out, apply. The income limits are pretty high. Might qualify, see what they have. If it looks good and is worth the effort, I'd get some food. If not, nothing lost.
 

So good updates from when I last posted around here. One, the workers from the plant have been tested. Still a high rate of infection from them with around 800 infected there out of 3000 workers, but the risk of a huge explosive spike in cases has been lowered. Two our case rate has lowered/leveled off to around 100 more confirmed cases a day, a manageable number when hospitalizations aren’t the highest right now. We won’t likely have a big spike in those numbers. Three, we’ve tripled our force of people doing contract tracing, which should help catch community spread more efficiently.

Bad news with the good though. The city council decided not to issue a stay at home order, likely under pressure from local businesses and the governor. This could backfire badly if our contact tracing misses people. Two, the deaths and hospitalization rate is rising quicker than I’d like. Right now things seem contained but I’m worried about the sense of complacency among people around here. We’ll probably start opening up in two weeks or so, but with our hotspot I’d prefer it to be three.
 

So good updates from when I last posted around here. One, the workers from the plant have been tested. Still a high rate of infection from them with around 800 infected there out of 3000 workers, but the risk of a huge explosive spike in cases has been lowered. Two our case rate has lowered/leveled off to around 100 more confirmed cases a day, a manageable number when hospitalizations aren’t the highest right now. We won’t likely have a big spike in those numbers. Three, we’ve tripled our force of people doing contract tracing, which should help catch community spread more efficiently.

Bad news with the good though. The city council decided not to issue a stay at home order, likely under pressure from local businesses and the governor. This could backfire badly if our contact tracing misses people. Two, the deaths and hospitalization rate is rising quicker than I’d like. Right now things seem contained but I’m worried about the sense of complacency among people around here. We’ll probably start opening up in two weeks or so, but with our hotspot I’d prefer it to be three.

You burgerlanders keep posting links that don't work from EU IPs and it's starting to worry me because it seems to be for legal reasons. (As in, the cookies must be breaking data protection law or some shit like that) so that's concerning.

That aside. If the cases are rising at a worrying pace then your area should consider locking down before a healthcare collapse. Consider contacting your representative about it.

They have, least in my state, increased the food stamp allotment 40% for those, of all ages, on the program. A single person got a maximum of $192 in food stamps before, so about another $80 is added. Families get more. Also have schools handing out food to certain students.

In our area we have a LOT of older people who are just barely surviving economically. They live, or try to live, in a very expensive area, on a meager Social Security payment. They get food delivered to them via volunteers. So this program could be of help. I'll check it out, apply. The income limits are pretty high. Might qualify, see what they have. If it looks good and is worth the effort, I'd get some food. If not, nothing lost.

That makes sense but it's still horrifying that your current system allows for retired people to have pensions so low that they literally can't afford to live. Like... that's just straight up wtf.
 
Apparently I am way more dependable then the usual speds who apply to deliver pizza because the manager has given me a shit ton of hours and my bank account continues to improve while everyone remains in lockdown. I am making roughly 20 bucks an hour, and gasoline is dirt cheap right now. This is making me wonder why I was ever a cubicle wagie, but its probably just skewed economics due to everyone being stuck at home.
If not for my student loan bills, I would absolutely go back to delivering pizzas. Getting at least 1.5x min wage to drive around listening to podcasts was great.
 
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so according to the WHO people who get the virus do not develop immunity: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...overed-patients-are-immune-says-who-1.4238216

but doesnt that mean a vaccine would be ineffective since the whole point of one is to make your body develop t-cells that give you immunity?

They retracted that

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Still, it's interesting to note that spreading FUD about herd immunity seems designed to hurt Western democracies by making them keep their economies crippled by a lockdown. To adapt Orwell's formulation it's 'objectively pro totalitarian', just like calling out travel bans from China as racist and then ignoring travel bans to China or mistreatment of foreigners in China was.

Amusing Dick rant on the WHO saying European governments should restrict access to alcohol

https://archive.vn/tRUzm


Even this seems designed to fuck with Europeans by encouraging their governments to take very unpopular action.

Dr. Campbell video on global inequalities in healthcare

https://archive.vn/czSfy
 
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